Re: Bat! - MyGate posting problem

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello! M Today, for the first time, I started to get this error when trying to M send a reply to a newsgroup. I logged several sessions and the error M actually reported by the news server is: Thank you for detailed explanation. I'll try to do something about it. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev,

ISO-8859-15 charset

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello tbudl list, Does anyone know why this is the default charset for TB mail? What is the cignificance of this charset, and is it safe to tell TB to use no encoding on mails? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Mary, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 9:07:32 PM, you wrote: MB When I don't do both of these things, I get a double-spaced post on MB TBOT. I know, it is an old Yahoo! problem, and PGP/Mime may not always MB be the cause. But it seems to be, in my case. No post of mine was ever MB

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Pranav, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 11:55:11 PM, you wrote: PL Hi all, PL Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows PL (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com) PL with TheBat? Yes! I am using Jaws 4.51 from

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Thomas, This is very encouraging. Thus far, I have not had any access issues. I was wondering if there were any settings that I should set to ensure the best operation with a screen reader? For a start, I have disabled the email ticker. I am using JFW v4.51.119. Pranav

Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic

2003-09-25 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Thomas, I am sending a text dump of the screen. The error occurs when I hit enter on the item called Sorting Office - general information Pranav Help Topics: Title of this help project Contents Index Find Click a topic, and then click Display. Or click another tab, such as Index. Working with

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Dave, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 9:12:58 PM, you wrote: DK Why do people use MyGate - The Bat! for their newsgroups? Probably so they can use the same interface/commands/templates et al for both mail/news use. I know that when changing from Agent to TB, this was one concern for

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Pranav, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 7:50:26 AM, you wrote: PL Hi Thomas, PL This is very encouraging. Thus far, I have not had any access issues. I was PL wondering if there were any settings that I should set to ensure the best PL operation with a screen reader? The only other

Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Luc- Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 7:03:41 PM, you wrote: L Every message on this list get's this link: Unless you happen to receive digest mode, in which case it's nowhere in sight. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2

Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Marck- Of course, in digest mode you'd have no idea that there were any archives... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Krister Ekstrom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pranav, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 25 Sep 2003 04:25:11 (my local time 00:55:11), you typed: PL Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows PL (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com)

My Gate and Message ID

2003-09-25 Thread Edgar
Hi, When downloading MyGate 2.5, I've read the guide by Thomas Martin. http://www.8ung.at/thebatinfo/technik/tip_newtb.htm My German is not that good (reading that is) so did I understand correctly that when you use TB! and MyGate the news messages will have a MID with a domain of your

Mod: Top posting (was: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic)

2003-09-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Pranav, @25-Sep-2003, 12:15 +0530 (07:45 UK time) Pranav Lal said: I am sending a text dump of the screen. ... snip moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please

Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread John Phillips
Hi Mark, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, at 00:26:07 [GMT-0700] (which was 17:26:07 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Any reason not to upgrade to 2.00.6? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows

Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic

2003-09-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Pranav, @25-Sep-2003, 09:50 +0530 (05:20 UK time) Pranav Lal said to TBUDL-thebat.dutaint.com: ... snip Main Window Title: winhlp32.exe - Application Error The instruction at 0x010062c1 referenced memory at 0x039be000. The memory could not be read. ... snip How do I fix this? I am

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Roelof, On 25-09-2003 01:18, you [R] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: R These days I'm using Agent. I actually do prefer TB's templates, R macros etc, but it's just missing quite a bit of usenet R functionality, like follow-ups etc. Yes. Although I have made it so that if a FUT header is present

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread John Phillips
Hi Dave, On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, at 16:12:58 [GMT-0400] (which was Thu, 6:12:58 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Why not a specialized newsreader like xnews? I just find it so much more convenient to have it all in one place - both mail news, so I just (after discovering MyGate - thanks to

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 4:12:58 PM, Dave wrote: D Why do people use MyGate - The Bat! for their newsgroups? D Why not a specialized newsreader like xnews? So, reading through through the various response (Thanks!), the main reason seems to be it's nice to have the Usenet posts in the

Re[2]: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Paul Berger
Thanks to all. Luc link worked just fine. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html As Marck said, I receive the digest so do not have the link that Marck mentioned. Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on

Re[2]: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Paul Berger
Have just moved up to 1.62r and can wait till any bugs are fixed. Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...Your conscience may not keep you from doing wrong, but it sure keeps

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Dave, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 06:55:28 -0400GMT (25-9-03, 12:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DK Does TB! have the basic rn/nn/etc. ability to kill a thread? No, though with some filters it's possible to approach that, though not very easy. -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re[2]: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread J
Hi guys. just now starting to use Bat for email Ive been a LONG time user of Agent for BOTH mail and news but this recent SW work has forced me to start thinking abt using separate apps for mail and news rather than all in one app. Im liking the Bat for mail good so

Re: My Gate and Message ID

2003-09-25 Thread Antje Lehmann
Hi, Edgar wrote: My German is not that good (reading that is) so did I understand correctly that when you use TB! and MyGate the news messages will have a MID with a domain of your e-mail adres (It does I've checked that) and that may/might get you into trouble on usenet since it

Re: suggestion: logging for kill filters

2003-09-25 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Chris, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 5:17:40 PM, you wrote: C I think that that would be a great feature. If the developers were C feeling particularly energetic, they could put a Verbose Logging C option on the Options or Advanced tab in the Sorting C Office/Filters. moderator This

OT: new mail at top/bottom

2003-09-25 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Bill, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 6:13:58 PM, you wrote: BBTE The same is true of things like eBay and dBASE. There is no need BBTE to follow goofy capitalization in running text. Ebay and Dbase BBTE are just fine. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers

Re: new mail at top/bottom

2003-09-25 Thread ken green
Urban wrote: Do you say the Eudora, the Becky, the Outlook Express? Well, I was being somewhat silly. But you need to see the context in which I was asking this question: ken green wrote: I noticed that the TB* archives use newest thread at top, And in that case, YES, I would say I noticed

Re: ISO-8859-15 charset

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Andrew, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:49:11 +0100 GMT (25/09/2003, 13:49 +0700 GMT), Andrew Hodgson wrote: Does anyone know why this is the default charset for TB mail? You seem to have sent your message with us-ascii encoding. What is the cignificance of this charset, It is Western

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello John, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:33:09 +1000 GMT (25/09/2003, 16:33 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: I just find it so much more convenient to have it all in one place - both mail news, so I just (after discovering MyGate - thanks to Miguel from Spain, and the author - Andrew - from

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello J, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:03:26 -0500 GMT (25/09/2003, 20:03 +0700 GMT), J wrote: Has RIT ever thought abt developing a news reader?? Yes, they have. Thought about it, that is. A full-scale news client is a completely new can of worms, what with scoring and f'up2 and all. There is still

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Krister, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:56:50 +0200 GMT (25/09/2003, 14:56 +0700 GMT), Krister Ekstrom wrote: I have used TB with both Jaws for Windows and Hal 5.21. For the latter screen reader there's even a map (script or set) file provided. Good to know about the scripts for Hal. For Jaws,

Re: Adding a memo to message

2003-09-25 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello zParticle, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 11:47:17 AM, you wrote: ken green wrote: If the memo window could be docked on the preview window screen, then the ability to change the subject line would almost become a moot point. Yep, that's exactly what it needs to make the memo feature

Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Pranav, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:15:56 +0530 GMT (25/09/2003, 13:45 +0700 GMT), Pranav Lal wrote: I am sending a text dump of the screen. The error occurs when I hit enter on the item called Sorting Office - general information Pranav Help Topics: Title of this help project You are

Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT

2003-09-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Andrew! On Thursday, September 25, 2003, 1:55 AM, you wrote: MB ... I get a double-spaced post on TBOT. ... A Yes, I had the same problem also. I used the following %NOPGPMime A in my Yahoo list templates, which solved the problem - I still sign A messages but the messages don't

Re: Palm Connection

2003-09-25 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Freddie, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 2:14:01 PM, you wrote: FF Hello All, FFI know this subject has come up several times in the past, but I FFwas wondering, if a full fledged conduit for the Palm operating FFsystem is not likely, and not being a programmer myself, if it is

Re: ISO-8859-15 charset

2003-09-25 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Thomas, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 4:45:32 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Andrew, TF On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:49:11 +0100 GMT (25/09/2003, 13:49 +0700 GMT), TF Andrew Hodgson wrote: Does anyone know why this is the default charset for TB mail? TF You seem to have sent your message with

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, 25. September 2003, at 22:53:46 [GMT +0700] you wrote: I just find it so much more convenient to have it all in one place - both mail news, so I just (after discovering MyGate - thanks to Miguel from Spain, and the author - Andrew - from Bulgaria) use Bat!

MyGate

2003-09-25 Thread Freddie Freeloader
Hello tbudl, What is the link to MyGate? -- Best regards, Freddie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[3]: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Neal Laugman
Thursday, September 25, 2003, 5:03:26 AM, you wrote: J Ive been a LONG time user of Agent for BOTH mail and J news but this recent SW work has forced me to J start thinking abt using separate apps for mail and J news rather than all in one app. I used Agent for both email and

Re: MyGate

2003-09-25 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Freddie, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 1:16:21 PM, you wrote: FF What is the link to MyGate? http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB

Re[4]: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Neal Laugman
Thursday, September 25, 2003, 11:28:55 AM, you wrote: NL plug-in architecture is now present; Rit and others (Alexander?;) will oops - I mean Andrew!! sorry... And Freddie is looking for this I believe: http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ -- Neal

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi Pranav, Le jeudi 25 septembre 2003 à 00:55:11, vous écriviez : PL Hi all, PL Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows PL (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com) PL with TheBat? Personally I used to work with Jaws and nextly I will

Re: thebat.exe 100% CPU usage ... please help!

2003-09-25 Thread David Boggon
Hi Mark, MW the real problem was the OS. Thanks for your reply. Interesting to hear it was the OS. For the record, I dumped the Bayesit SPAM plugin and TB came good. -- David Boggon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

Re: Bat! - MyGate posting problem

2003-09-25 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew, Thank you for detailed explanation. I'll try to do something about it. I still have in my Outbox the message that forces the error, I can send it to you if it is of any use. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF:

messages marked as read

2003-09-25 Thread ken green
I've been using the Dispatcher a lot lately, and noticed that messages are ALWAYS marked read. Unless I am remembering incorrectly (entirely possible), this was not the case when I had my accounts set up as IMAP. Does the dispatcher itself cause messages to be read because they are touched when

collapsing a thread

2003-09-25 Thread ken green
Is there a way to collapse a thread while inside that thread? Ex: I'm reading the 15th message in a thread - is the only way to close the thread to go back to the top-level? I've looked through the shortcuts and menu choices and can't find this feature. This has probably been asked before

Re: collapsing a thread

2003-09-25 Thread ken green
Is there a way to collapse a thread while inside that thread? Sorry. Found this: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, yes it's been asked. But not answered. Anyone know if this is planned? -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4

Re: Where is TBUDL Archive nowadays?

2003-09-25 Thread Mark Wieder
John- Any reason not to upgrade to 2.00.6? Uh oh...busted. My vcr flashes 12:00, too, because I... er... um... like that time of day... yeah, that's it. I'm still running SP2, you'll notice. And my house was built in 1907 and still runs fine. Haven't seen the need to upgrade it yet except

Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic

2003-09-25 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Thomas, snip I still don't get the AV. But that item starts with a screenshot. Mya that be causing an AV with your screenreader, who doesn't expect a screenshot in a help file? I am running JFW v4.51.119 and have not seen this happen in any other help system. For that matter, thus far, it

Re: messages marked as read

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello ken, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:35:54 -0500 GMT (26/09/2003, 04:35 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: Does the dispatcher itself cause messages to be read because they are touched when getting the headers, etc.? Could this be a mail server setting? Is this limited to when using the POP3 protocol?

Re: collapsing a thread

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello ken, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:10:59 -0500 GMT (26/09/2003, 06:10 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: Is there a way to collapse a thread while inside that thread? Sorry. Found this: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, yes it's been asked. But not answered. Anyone know if this is planned? Has it been

Re: collapsing a thread

2003-09-25 Thread ken green
Thomas Fernandez wrote: Has it been added to the wishlist? www.ritlabs.com/bt - change Project to wish list. Sorry if this is an obvious answer, but is the TB wishlist and TB bug tracking one and the same? That seem a little odd, but your link is for the bug tracking system. Also, I don't

Re: collapsing a thread

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello ken, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:08:47 -0500 GMT (26/09/2003, 11:08 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: www.ritlabs.com/bt - change Project to wish list. Sorry if this is an obvious answer, but is the TB wishlist and TB bug tracking one and the same? That seem a little odd, but your link is for

Selective Download inconsistencies

2003-09-25 Thread ken green
I am concerned that my Selected Download filters aren't working right. I had been expecting to receive a software registration e-mail sometime today and when it had not yet arrived, I checked the server using the Dispatcher. Sure enough, it was there - marked read, but not marked to receive. I

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Andrew, snip The only other access adjustment I did was to disable the HTML viewer so that HTML messages are viewed in the plaintext editor How do I disable the HTML viewer? Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL

Re: Screen readers and TheBat

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Claude, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:33:56 +0200 GMT (26/09/2003, 02:33 +0700 GMT), Claude Renaud wrote: But I'm not totally aggree with Thomas Fernandez when he said that jaws works perfectly with the bat!. Not perfectly, but pretty well. Here are the suggestions for TB that I have compiled