Re: Dummying up SmartBat

2003-10-30 Thread Ravi/Shell-Shocked
Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time tagline when first opening up? This is again a workaround - but it's what I use with some success. Instead of restarting SmartBat every time, hide and show it with your favourite hiding/showing utility. For me it's powerpro.

8-bit characters

2003-10-30 Thread net5zero
Under Account Properties Mail Management, on 8-bit characters' treatment: 1. What are 8-bit characters? 2. What is the difference between without changes and quote-printable? TIA Current version is 2.01.3 |

Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?

2003-10-30 Thread net5zero
And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do the two version have the same file formats? With respect to attachments (in Account Properties), is it better to keep it in separate folders or in message bodies? --

Re: Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'

2003-10-30 Thread Chris
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003 at 2:04:04 PM, rich gregory wrote in the message Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!' mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... add logins to TB! so that family members not see each other's ... email Options/Network Administration/Privileges HEY! Wadda ya know! I have

Re: Dummying up SmartBat

2003-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, When I tried it yesterday it didn't, but now it does again too. Maybe it is also due to daylight saving time change last weekend ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re: 8-bit characters

2003-10-30 Thread Vasiliy Efimenko
Hello net5zero, On 30 October 2003, at 04:19 -0500 you wrote: nnn 1. What are 8-bit characters? Is a none Latin alphabet characters. For example, 8 bit characters are Cyrillic letters: , , , , , , , (I don't sure that you are able to see this letters properly). nnn 2. What is the

Re: TheBat and PowerPro ?

2003-10-30 Thread Ravi/Shell-Shocked
Does any of you guys use PowerPro, and if so what special commands do you have it setup to perform in The_Bat! TB has a good hotkey system - so many things I can just tie to a hotkey natively in TB!. Compress all folders: I used to be able to do this in one go with previous versions - but now

Re[2]: TheBat and PowerPro ?

2003-10-30 Thread Miles Johnson
RSS Compress all folders: I used to be able to do this in one go RSS with previous versions - but now with the maintenance centre RSS it's too many keys/clicks -- Wait... are you saying the Compress all folders command is gone in V2?! Best regards, Miles

Re: Dummying up SmartBat

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Nick, On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:42:42 -0600 GMT (30/10/2003, 04:42 +0700 GMT), Nick Danger wrote: Failing that, does anyone know of a way to stop me from getting infuriated Meditation? scnr -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It doesn't matter if you

Re: TheBat and PowerPro ?

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miles, On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:30:14 -0500 GMT (30/10/2003, 21:30 +0700 GMT), Miles Johnson wrote: Wait... are you saying the Compress all folders command is gone in V2?! No, but it's a tickmark in the maintainance center now, not a menu item any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der

Re: Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello net5zero, On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:37:02 -0500 GMT (30/10/2003, 16:37 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do the two version have the same file formats? The file

Re: ANNOYING!

2003-10-30 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, St - Musaic.Net wrote... Why is it that an Incoming message (original message) where From is: Glennie, David {LRUC Programme, BST} [EMAIL PROTECTED] converted to Glennie, David{LRUCProgramme, BST} [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, no hyphens) in the outgoing mail (Sent

Re: ANNOYING!

2003-10-30 Thread St - Musaic.Net
I was spending ages looking for hypens in the original from, but I see you meant quotes. I was awfully tired at the time of writing - I am sorry for this particular mistyping and the others I see are in there! [Quotes] aren't needed in the header from what I remember... I feel they are

Re: ANNOYING!

2003-10-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jonathan, On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:03:27 -0600 GMT (30/10/2003, 22:03 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: [Quotes] They aren't needed in the header from what I remember, Yes, they are needed when there are reserved characters (full-stops) in the realname part of the email address.

Re: Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Wieder
net5zero- Thursday, October 30, 2003, 1:37:02 AM, you wrote: nnn And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. nnn I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do the two nnn version have the same file formats? Yes. And mostly. nnn With respect to attachments (in

Re: ANNOYING!

2003-10-30 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote... They aren't needed in the header from what I remember, Yes, they are needed when there are reserved characters (full-stops) in the realname part of the email address. That teaches me for walking away from my keyboard when I'm composing

Re: ANNOYING!

2003-10-30 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi, St - Musaic.Net wrote: This has been noticed, you should change something in the body of the email, then switching back to the headers doesn't alter the top part... So is it not a bug? I can't imagine this is how it should be! If I'm not mistaken the developer(s?) are aware of this

Account General Settings

2003-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello all, I was trying to lead a newbie who wants to evaluate TB when I found out that Help/Contents/Working with The Bat!/Configuring your mail account/General settings includes a screen grab of the Address Book and not of Account/Properties/general. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El

Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Pekka
Hello Batpeople, I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. Has anyone got a tip? How to mark a message (which is created with the scheduler) automatically unread when it is directed to a certain folder? I need a

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pekka, On 30 October 2003, 20:19 +0200 ( 18:19 local time) Pekka [P] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I P can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. Look under

Re: Account General Settings

2003-10-30 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi MAU, on Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:39:36 +0100GMT (30.10.03, 17:39 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : M I was trying to lead a newbie who wants to evaluate TB when I found out M that Help/Contents/Working with The Bat!/Configuring your mail M account/General settings includes a

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Martin, on Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:50:53 +GMT (30.10.03, 19:50 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : P I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I P can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. MW Look under the Actions tab... it's the first

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Pekka, I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. That's right, there isn't. Has anyone got a tip? How to mark a message (which is created with the scheduler) automatically unread when it is directed to a

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, October 30, 2003, 7:19:09 PM, you wrote: P And no, I don't want to actually *send* those reminders to myself, not P with a dial-up connection and a tight budget. Hi Pekka, I don't know anything about the scheduler but I do know that you can have msg delivered locally, meaning they

Re: Account General Settings

2003-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, Confirmed. Will you submit it to bugtrack (as that's where it belongs IMHO)? No, I don't use bugtrack either for bugs of for wishlist items. I just mention things in this list or TBBeta just in case someone (from Ritlabs) wants to hear. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El

Re: Using purging old messages with the folder maintenance option does not use the alternative deletion method.

2003-10-30 Thread Edgar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chris, On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 1:09:32 AM, you wrote: Edgar, your PGP key doesn't have a last name! Who are you? The name in the PGP key is just the name like in my e-mail. Looking at the key now I can not change the name without

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 30 October 2003, 20:35 +0100 ( 19:35 local time) Peter Meyns [PM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I P can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. MW

bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread DZ-Jay
dZ. -- | DZ vs. THE WORLD... | Hating anything, everything and everyone since 1994. `- - -- - - - - Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Martin, on Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:33:01 +GMT (30.10.03, 21:33 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : P I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I P can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. MW Look under the Actions tab... it's the first

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 3:18 PM, you wrote: DJ dZ. folder template maybe?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.01.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Pekka
Hello Martin, Thursday, October 30, 2003, 8:50:53 PM, you wrote: P I have looked through the sorting office over and over again but I P can't find a way to mark a message unread with a filter. MW Look under the Actions tab... it's the first item. No, it's mark the message as read. -- Best

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Pekka
Hello MAU, Thursday, October 30, 2003, 9:34:08 PM, you wrote: M Send those reminders to yourself. But first, in Options/Network M Administration, on the Network tab, select (tick) Allow Local Delivery. M That way, the message will be sent directly to your Inbox or to the M folder your Incoming

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Pekka, I *do* have a couple of extra beers but please hurry... You'd better not drink them or you'll never again be able to correctly spell sophisticated ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re: Using purging old messages with the folder maintenance option does not use the alternative deletion method.

2003-10-30 Thread Chris
On Thursday, October 30, 2003 at 3:25:31 PM, Edgar wrote in the message Using purging old messages with the folder maintenance option does not use the alternative deletion method. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at the key now I can not change the name without revoking the key. (or can I) Once

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Chris
On Thursday, October 30, 2003 at 3:53:02 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote in the message bring mole recipe mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: folder template maybe?? Nope. They were using Opera's mail client, M2. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Error, no keyboard-press F1

Re: Mark unread - and some scheduler stuff too

2003-10-30 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, October 30, 2003, 10:04:01 PM, you wrote: P I knew about the local delivery but I was hoping that there was a more P sophisiticateded way... sophitzidated... well, you know what I mean :) P I mean something not system-wide. Hi Pekka, Try this. Copy the msg to the folder you want

Importing Public keys help with PGP

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:28:25 PM Hi, Im new to this and was reading the help files for PGP and this is what it reads: Add public keys from email messages A convenient way to get a copy of someone’s public key is to have that person include it in an email message. When a public key is sent

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread DZ-Jay
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:53:02 -0500, Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 3:18 PM, you wrote: DJ dZ. folder template maybe?? Sorry, my apologies to everybody on the list. No, its not a folder template but probably something just as lame: Stupid M2 has an

Re: Importing Public keys help with PGP

2003-10-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Darrin, @30-Oct-2003, 14:31 -0800 (22:31 UK time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: D When I try it I get a pop up that tells me PGP cannot copy keys D from clipboard. D Am I doing it wrong? If the message is clear-signed then the - BEGIN PGP KEY block is compromised and now

Re[2]: Importing Public keys help with PGP

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Thursday at 3:01 PM you wrote: MDP If the message is clear-signed then the - BEGIN PGP KEY block MDP is compromised and now reads - - BEGIN PGP KEY. PGP can't MDP figure out its own mangling :-(. Could this be your problem? Oh man! I

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 5:22 PM, you wrote: folder template maybe?? C Nope. They were using Opera's mail client, M2. never heard of M2, but I never was a fan of netscape, or any browsers email client. Before TB I had used Eudora, and of course OL2K for the office.. so, if he is using

Re[2]: Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?

2003-10-30 Thread net5zero
Thursday, October 30, 2003, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 04:37:02 -0500 GMT (30/10/2003, 16:37 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do

severity 'block' on Bugtracking ??

2003-10-30 Thread Rob
Hi, what does 'block' mean there ?? there's a very irrititating bug where, using GnuPG, you get prompted for a passphrase for a non-existing signing key !! i don't hope 'block' means the've given up ... -- Rob Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ~

Re:Account General Settings

2003-10-30 Thread Rob
Hi MAU, on Thu, 30 Oct 2003, at 17:39:36 local time (GMT +0100), you wrote: M I was trying to lead a newbie who wants to evaluate TB when I found out M that Help/Contents/Working with The Bat!/Configuring your mail M account/General settings includes a screen grab of the Address Book and M not

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread John Morse
Hi The_Bat! Users, Thursday, October 30, 2003, 5:21:46 PM, you wrote: PC so, if he is using M2, why is he on a TB mailing list? Probably experimenting... I do it all the time with the latest releases of any and every email client. But I have to say, Opera's M2 is the sorriest excuse for a mail

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Paul, On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 3:21:46 PM PST, you wrote: so, if he is using M2, why is he on a TB mailing list? Could be any of several reasons... He/she could just be using a computer in which TB! isn't installed. Or could just be interested in learning more about TB! with the

Re: Importing Public keys help with PGP

2003-10-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Darrin, @30-Oct-2003, 15:17 -0800 (23:17 UK time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP If the message is clear-signed then the - BEGIN PGP KEY block MDP is compromised and now reads - - BEGIN PGP KEY. PGP can't MDP figure out its own mangling :-(. Could this be your

PGP and S/Mime Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:02:31 PM Hi, When I create a new email, under PRIVACY tab on top ENABLE S/MIME is always checked. It doesnt work for me. I uncheck it then it by default is checked again once I create a new email. How do I correct this? Thanks -- Darrin

Re: Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?

2003-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello net5zero, After installing v2 and receive/send some mail in it -- assuming I did NOT add/move/delete a folder in v2 -- then I decide to go back to v1.62, will I be able to access all my messages, INCLUDING those send/received during my trial of v2, in v1.62 ?? Yes. -- Best regards,

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 10/30/2003 18:21:46, I think I heard Paul Cartwright say: On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 5:22 PM, you wrote: folder template maybe?? C Nope. They were using Opera's mail client, M2. never heard of M2, but I never was a fan of netscape, or any browsers email client. Before

Re[2]: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread mm Meister
Hello Melissa, Thursday, October 30, 2003, 6:42:39 PM, you wrote: MR In any event, I'm happy to welcome anyone who MR wants to learn more about this wonderful email client! :-) Especially if they bring the mole recipe. -- Maggiemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: Importing Public keys help with PGP

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Hi, On Thursday at 3:50 PM you wrote: MDP No, but there was a clue in there to your problem after all :-). yeah, what do ya know. Go figure. How I got that one. :) Thanks -- Darrin Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:

Is there a way to filter messages with Base64 coding?

2003-10-30 Thread net5zero
If yes, how? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 1.62r Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

ODATE and OTIME problem?

2003-10-30 Thread Peter Ouwehand
Hello TBUDL , From the help file: ODATE[=format] (replies and forward) insert the date of the original message in the long date format (defined by the system's country settings) or using the format specified by the format parameter OTIME[=format] (replies and forward) insert the time of the

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Chris
On Thursday, October 30, 2003 at 6:42:01 PM, John Morse wrote in the message bring mole recipe mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: But I have to say, Opera's M2 is the sorriest excuse for a mail client I have ever seen! It's still worlds better than the old version (M1). It works find as a simple news

Re: PGP and S/Mime Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Darrin, @30-Oct-2003, 16:04 -0800 (31-Oct 00:04 UK time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: D Hi, When I create a new email, under PRIVACY tab on top ENABLE D S/MIME is always checked. ... How do I correct this? Change it in Account properties | Options. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D

Re: severity 'block' on Bugtracking ??

2003-10-30 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Rob, @31-Oct-2003, 00:37 +0100 (31-Oct 23:37 UK time) Rob [R] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: R what does 'block' mean there ?? It means that the bug causes a blockage when trying to use the program - you can't get past this point to the next stage of the function you're trying to perform.

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 7:21 PM, you wrote: DJ M2 is Opera's new Mail client. Opera is a browser. I used Eudora DJ before TB but at work I cannot use TB, and its either M2, Mozilla Mail DJ or (eek!) Outlook Express. So I chose M2. At home I use TB. have you tried the mozilla client?

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, October 30, 2003, 6:42 PM, you wrote: so, if he is using M2, why is he on a TB mailing list? MR Could be any of several reasons... MR He/she could just be using a computer in which TB! isn't installed. Or MR could just be interested in learning more about TB! with the intention

Re: Is there a way to filter messages with Base64 coding?

2003-10-30 Thread Chris
On Thursday, October 30, 2003 at 7:28:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in the message Is there a way to filter messages with Base64 coding? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: If yes, how? Look for Content-transfer-encoding: base64 in the kludges. However, that will match most messages with PGP signatures

Re: bring mole recipe

2003-10-30 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi Maggie, On Thursday, October 30, 2003, at 4:32:52 PM PST, you wrote: MR In any event, I'm happy to welcome anyone who wants to learn more MR about this wonderful email client! :-) Especially if they bring the mole recipe. Indeed! :-) -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL

Re[2]: PGP and S/Mime Problem

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Hi Marck, On Thursday at 5:28 PM you wrote (or at least in part): MDP Change it in Account properties | Options. Perfect! I I knew it had to be simple. Thanks -- Darrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat 2.01.3 E=Mc^5...nahhh...E=Mc^4...nahh...E=Mc^3...ah, forget it!

Re: Account General Settings

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Wieder
Rob- Thursday, October 30, 2003, 3:27:08 PM, you wrote: R the whole Help/F1 seems a bit 'incomplete' ... incomplete is probably the nicest thing I've heard anybody call TB's help system in a long time... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack

Filter help with autoresponder

2003-10-30 Thread Darrin
Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:06:34 PM Hi, Im trying to set up a autoresponder that will include my public pgp key when requested. I cant seem to get the filters correct to do it. I set up a response email using the attachfile macro and then select my pgp key but the email goes without any

Re[2]: 8-bit characters

2003-10-30 Thread net5zero
Thursday, October 30, 2003, Vasiliy Efimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 October 2003, at 04:19 -0500 you wrote: nnn 1. What are 8-bit characters? Is a none Latin alphabet characters. For example, 8 bit characters are Cyrillic letters: , , , , , , , (I don't sure that you are able