Re[2]: TheBat Pricing

2004-08-14 Thread David Earl
Peter Charles, Ok, honor system, basically. That's ok, and probably easier for RITLabs to track. -- Thanks, David Win][k sp4 TheBat 2.11 PM Hi David, PM on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:58:59 +0200GMT, you wrote: DE On the TB web page, there is a list of prices, but there's no DE info about what's

Re: TheBat Pricing

2004-08-14 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello David, Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:43:28 +0200 UTC David Earl wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DE Ok, honor system, basically. That's ok, and probably easier for DE RITLabs to track. It's impossible to track, which is why you call it an honor system. -- Regards, Charles. The Bat!

Re: Folders NOT emptying on exit

2004-08-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ron, On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:55:32 -0400GMT (13-8-2004, 22:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RC does anyone have any help for my 'problems' of folders not emptying on exit? Folders not emptying on exit can are most likely to be caused by not checking the checkboxes for On exit: Remove

Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.

2004-08-14 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Chris, -- Freitag, 13. August 2004, 19:22:38: EC Sure I can. Here it comes Thanks for posting that, it made for very interesting reading. :-/ Which leads me to the following questions; My pleasure :) 1. Why have the option to install more than one anti-spam plug-in? Well

Re[2]: TheBat Pricing

2004-08-14 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text=== From: Peter Meyns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Earl on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 13, 2004, 10:34:37 PM Subject: TheBat Pricing PM Hi David, PM on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:58:59 +0200GMT, you wrote: DE On the TB web page, there is a

Panda antivirus plugin

2004-08-14 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi tbudler, I just did a search on google about the panda antivirus plugin. The only plugin I found is the 0.1 test version which seems to work with the latest panda antivirus software. Does someone know if a more recent

Re: TheBat Pricing

2004-08-14 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi WilWilWil, on Sat, 14 Aug 2004 12:40:20 +0200GMT, you wrote: W Strange policy : imagine a student who has bought TB student at the beginning W of the year, who just get his diploma ad the end of the year and has his studies W ended... Will he get a personal use license and pay TB a second

Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello. Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? If some people could write how they're using the adress book(s) or groups it would give me the right inspiration, maybe. :-) Thanks -- Best regards,

Re: TheBat Pricing

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Meyns, 14-Aug-2004 14:15, you wrote: | RandomSignature-Professional 3.2 - DEMO | !!!You are using an illegal key! Please buy a LEGAL copy!!! LOL!!! -- Best regards, Alexander Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL'

Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups

2004-08-14 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Saturday, August 14, 2004 it appears that Alexander wrote the following in regards to Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups: ASK Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? Hi Alexander. I don't see

Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Hello: I've been running BayesIt for a while and it works beautifully. My accuracy right now is at 96.75%, so I guess I shouldn't complain. But out of a few hundred messages I get a day, it misses about 10 that look like obvious spam but were marked as not-spam. I checked the

Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups

2004-08-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Alexander, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:19:22 +0200GMT (14-8-2004, 14:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ASK Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? If some people ASK could write how they're

Re: Adress Book vs. Adress Book Groups

2004-08-14 Thread Darrin Rich
On 8/14/2004 5:19 AM my time, Alexander wrote: ASK Can someone point out the advantages/disadvantages of using separate adress ASK books, or rather one adress book with several groups in it? Hi Alexander, I have a specific address group for contacts from my Church. One which is separate

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
St: Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to exactly so? Thomas Fernandez: No, I haven't. But I have noticed that I need to invoke check mail for all in order to ensure that periodical mail check will occur. I do, too. My problem is that I usually will have

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows Show Desktop

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
St: TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows+M and see for yourself. Allie Martin: TB! disappears/minimizes here. Andre Wichartz: It depends on whether you have TB! set to show in the task bar. I can confirm this. Options - Preferences - General, _check_ Do not

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Alexander S. Kunz: Options/Preferences/General - Display Connection centre - HIDE Thanks - there is always something to learn! -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

[St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic . Net
From the TB help file: For those who are familiar with programming, here's a handy hint: The Bat! checks a file called TheBat.IPC which is located in the same directory in which The Bat! executable (TheBat.exe) file is located. Within this text file, each line represents one command

Re: Limiting BayesIt to scan only unknown mail

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/06/2004 10:35:52, I think I heard Leif Gregory say: Hello Barry, Friday, August 6, 2004, 1:51:46 AM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit059.rar BW If I try to install this version it GPF's. Anyone else BW experiencing this? I don't get a GPF,

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 09:28:34 -0400 GMT [15:28 CEST] you wrote: DJ BTW, I do not understand very well the regarding threshold DJ parameter, can someone explain it please? From advanced.ini: ; this number shows, how much heavier non-spam tokens than spam. It makes some kind of guard

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 16:17, you wrote: exactly how do you send TB that IPC command when TB fails to read the file that contains the request!?! You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the helpfile,

Deleting Inbox Messages Takes About 4 Seconds

2004-08-14 Thread Bill Woodward
I have TB installed under Win XP. When I delete a message from the Inbox it takes about 4 seconds for the deletion to occur. This does not happend in any other mail folder except the Inbox. The number of messages in the Inbox makes no difference, it always takes about 4 seconds for the deletion

Re: Deleting Inbox Messages Takes About 4 Seconds

2004-08-14 Thread Allie Martin
Bill Woodward, [BW] wrote: I have TB installed under Win XP. When I delete a message from the Inbox it takes about 4 seconds for the deletion to occur. This does not happend in any other mail folder except the Inbox. The number of messages in the Inbox makes no difference, it always takes

Re: Deleting Inbox Messages Takes About 4 Seconds

2004-08-14 Thread Allie Martin
Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: Try moving the messages to a newly created folder. That should the messages that are in the offending Inbox folder. -- Allie Martin [List Moderator and fellow end-user] The Bat!™ v2.13 Lucky Beta/5 on WinXP Pro (SP2) . Oxymoron: Unachievable Accomplishments.

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 10:34:25, I think I heard Andre Wichartz say: Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 09:28:34 -0400 GMT [15:28 CEST] you wrote: DJ BTW, I do not understand very well the regarding threshold DJ parameter, can someone explain it please? From advanced.ini: ; this number

Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Maurice McAdam
Hello TBUDLers, After losing half my msg base and my address book (Friday 13th? - no, not really, it happened yesterday) I followed Roelof's advice on creating fictitious accounts. I thought I was out of the woods, until I discovered that nothing that I could do, would bring back my address book.

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
St: ...exactly how do you send TB that IPC command when TB fails to read the file that contains the request!?! Alexander S. Kunz: You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the helpfile, too. Don't be too

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 17:35, you wrote: My point is this: For no reason, TB may at any time simply stop looking for thebat.IPC - and thus TB won't know of the _future_ commands you send it (by the way of the command line). Have you investigated why this is happening?

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Some tasks are now active

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 16:04, you wrote: Now, exactly how do you send TB that /EXIT command when TB fails to read the file that contains the request!?! GREAT! You can issue an thebat.exe /EXIT command and it will quit the running instance of TB. You don't need the .IPC file

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

2004-08-14 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Alexander S. Kunz: Have you investigated why this is happening? SysInternals FileMon may be of help. Maybe your on-access virus scanner blocks the file, something like that? Funny that you ask - I am currently running FileMon here (with an exclusive logging of thebat.IPC-accesses.

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello DZ-Jay, On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:30:32 -0400 GMT [17:30 CEST] you wrote: DJ Yes, I am aware of its definition, but what I don't understand DJ is what would be the effect of changing it to, say, 1.2 from 1.5 DJ (apart from the academic answer of making non-spam tokens a bit less DJ heavier).

Re: Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Deleting Inbox Messages Takes About 4 Seconds)

2004-08-14 Thread Bill Woodward
Sorry. I had assumed changing the subject would take care of that. Saturday, August 14, 2004, 10:13:09 AM, you wrote: AM Bill Woodward, [BW] wrote: Thanks for any suggestions. AM moderator AM Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not AM just to the person being

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Pete Holsberg
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 12:27:41 PM, you wrote: AW Hello DZ-Jay, AW On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:30:32 -0400 GMT [17:30 CEST] you wrote: DJ Yes, I am aware of its definition, but what I don't understand DJ is what would be the effect of changing it to, say, 1.2 from 1.5 DJ (apart from the academic

Re: Mod: Reply for new thread (was: Deleting Inbox Messages Takes About 4 Seconds)

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
[uncut reply with top posting to a moderator note by Bill Woodward] ...sometimes I just can't do anything but ROTFL and be glad that its not me who is the list moderator... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using

Fwd: Re[2]: Folder settings

2004-08-14 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
This is a forwarded message From: Jack S. LaRosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 6:14:24 PM Subject: Folder settings ===8==Original message text=== Hello Allie, Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 7:55:42 AM, you wrote: AM

Re[2]: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Maurice McAdam
Hello Peter, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:18:36 +0200 GMT (14.08.2004, 18:18 +0200 GMT, where I live), you wrote: PO on Sat, 14 Aug 2004 17:23:04 +0200 (2004-08-14 17:23:04 in .nl) in the PO message with reference PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you PO [MM] wrote (at least in part): MM Surely it is backed

Re: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Plan9
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 1:55:04 PM, Maurice wrote: PO This depends on settings you made on the first page of the backup PO window. Is 'Address Books' checked? Are address books selected (use the PO 'Choose...' button). Maurice Like a fool, I've been accepting the default settings and never

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 12:34:07, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Where do you do the setting??? In a file called ADVANCED.INI in the BayesIt working directory, or in the TB! installation directory. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195

Re: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Plan9, Saturday, August 14, 2004, 2:08:14 PM, you wrote: P Nope. After I read Peter's reply I checked my backup settings. And P guess what? I quickly changed the default address book and performed P another backup. P Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup tool?

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 12:27:41, I think I heard Andre Wichartz say: Assume a word orccurs equally often in spam and non-spam mails. If you set the value to 1 the word will get a spam propability of 0.5. If you set it to a higher value the word will get something lower than 0.5. Words in

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Pete Holsberg
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 2:37:03 PM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 08/14/2004 12:34:07, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Where do you do the setting??? DJ In a file called ADVANCED.INI in the BayesIt working directory, or DJ in the TB! installation directory. Not found anywhere on

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread MikeD
Hello All, I have been following this thread since I have been having some problems too. I was using the old version (0.4gm) until I upgraded to the current version of TB. The settings I used to use don't seem to work any more and I either get everything filtered as junk or nothing is filtered

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 15:47:24, I think I heard MikeD say: The settings I used to use don't seem to work any more and I either get everything filtered as junk or nothing is filtered as junk. I trained it with about 2000 spam and 2000 ham messages and still no joy. I have tried low

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread DZ-Jay
Some time around 08/14/2004 14:54:38, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Saturday, August 14, 2004, 2:37:03 PM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 08/14/2004 12:34:07, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: Where do you do the setting??? DJ In a file called ADVANCED.INI in the BayesIt working

Re[3]: Addressing email

2004-08-14 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello rich, Saturday, August 14, 2004, 5:15:38 PM, you wrote: rg How, in your third line above, did you enter the 2 handles to begin rg with? Did you use ANY keystroke(s) at all to indicate to TB! that it rg had correctly guessed the correct email address by it's handle? rg Once the TO: line had

more than just spam/ham classification (was: Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.)

2004-08-14 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 12. Aug 2004 at 22:54:24 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Bayesfilter Bayesit! I tried Bayesfilter, but somehow it did not learn as fast as BayesIt. However, I'm using PopFile now and use Virtual Folders to reflect the bucket classification of PopFile (except for spam, of

Address book, using multiple addresses

2004-08-14 Thread Critter
In the address book, you can put additional email addresses, one per line, but is there a way to access the second, third email addresses while creating a new message w/o having to click on the To: and have the secondary address to to the BCC field? --

Re: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Chris
Plan9 @ 2004-Aug-14 2:08:14 PM Tools, Restore mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup tool? I changed mine a while ago and the proper address books are still checked. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using

Selecting Text - Reply to all

2004-08-14 Thread Critter
I know there is a keyboard shortcut F4 to quote selected text in a reply, but I do not see there is one for quoting and replying to all. Is there a way to add a keyboard shortcut or is there one? thanks crit -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Ctz Consulting ]-=

Re: Tools, Restore

2004-08-14 Thread Plan9
Saturday, August 14, 2004, 7:35:40 PM, Chris wrote: Is there someway to change the default permanently in the backup tool? Chris I changed mine a while ago and the proper address books are still Chris checked. You are correct. Seems to have taken a restart of TheBat! for my new selection to

Re[2]: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello DZ-Jay, Saturday, August 14, 2004, 5:31:59 PM, you wrote: DJ Some time around 08/14/2004 15:47:24, I think I heard MikeD say: The settings I used to use don't seem to work any more and I either get everything filtered as junk or nothing is filtered as junk. I trained it with about 2000

Re: Help with BayesIt tuning

2004-08-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello DZ-Jay, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:42:17 -0400 GMT (15/08/2004, 01:42 +0700 GMT), DZ-Jay wrote: Assume a word orccurs equally often in spam and non-spam mails. If you set the value to 1 the word will get a spam propability of 0.5. If you set it to a higher value the word will get something

Re: Address book, using multiple addresses

2004-08-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Critter, On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:31:45 -0400 GMT (15/08/2004, 02:31 +0700 GMT), Critter wrote: C In the address book, you can put additional email addresses, one per C line, but is there a way to access the second, third email addresses C while creating a new message w/o having to click on

Re: more than just spam/ham classification (was: Re: Bayes***** Plug-In.)

2004-08-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello dAniel hAhler, 15-Aug-2004 00:28, you wrote: I tried Bayesfilter, but somehow it did not learn as fast as BayesIt. However, I'm using PopFile now and use Virtual Folders to reflect the bucket classification of PopFile (except for spam, of course). But you cannot reflect real bucket