Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Allie, On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:01:18 -0500GMT (22/09/2000, 05:01 +0800GMT), A . Curtis Martin wrote: ACM For everyone, especially newbies who may feel shy or intimidated: ACM *Please*, despite any negative impressions the veterans may give, always ACM feel free to voice your opinions as you

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-21 Thread Ming-Li
On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 12:26:27 PM, Nick wrote: In Reference to "Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])" From Ming-Li: " M Their requests are nonetheless legitimate, IMHO, and there's no M nee

Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-21 Thread Jamie Dainton
Hello Ming-Li, On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:46:53 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, September 21, 2000, 14:46:53 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Ming-Li wrote: ML Q: why can't TB resort my folders automatically? why can't I ML redefine shortcuts? why can't I re-arrange my toolbar

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-21 Thread Ming-Li
On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 10:08:54 PM, Oleg wrote: ML mouse is more convenient. For you. I use keyboard. In the situation I described, my mouse is nearer than keyboard, and I've got only one hand, while most of TB's shortcuts are two-three key combinations. That might not stop you from

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-21 Thread Graham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/09/2000 at 14:46, Ming-Li wrote: Ming-Li On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 12:26:27 PM, Nick wrote: Ming-Li No, I don't think RIT could or should implement every featured Ming-Li requested. But that's not my point. My point is, every so

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-21 Thread A . Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:21:35 +0100, Graham wrote: G Absolutely! G If I have an opinion and its legitimately held, and it relates to The G Bat!, isn't this the place to air it? I respect the veterans' G opinions in most things and they should

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-21 Thread A . Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:46:53 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML Q: why can't TB resort my folders automatically? why can't I ML redefine shortcuts? why can't I re-arrange my toolbar buttons? ML A: blah, blah, blah... (detailed answers and courteous through

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Ming-Li, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:06:11 -0700GMT (20/09/2000, 03:06 +0800GMT), Ming-Li wrote: ML It's at least debatable which takes more time--mouse or keyboard (or ML other user interfaces)--and the answer would depend very largely on ML personal habits and situations. No, I'm sorry to say.

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Avenarius
A Bat-fellow, Januk Aggarwal, wrote on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 5:11:46 CET -- Sorry, I need to add my customary complaint here. How come there are four darned *buttons* available, but (once your cursor is located in the preview window) there are no keyboard shortcuts that allow you to

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi A, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:55:24 -0500GMT (19/09/2000, 12:55 +0800GMT), A . Curtis Martin wrote: TF You actually *can* connect them, so that the active message in the TF main window's message list moves depending on what the active TF message in the Folder View message list is? Please tell me

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Avenarius, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:00:27 +0200GMT (19/09/2000, 14:00 +0800GMT), Avenarius wrote: A If there's something I hate it's toolbars. In applications that you A only use once a week they're handy but with one's favourite A everyday (or even every-hour) tools they just get in the way.

Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, September 19, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Avenarius on TBUDL about Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em]): TF Just for your info, I use the toolbar buttons all the time. I do

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread A . Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:00:27 +0200, Avenarius wrote: A I sure don't know what buttons are available because I don't use any A toolbars and I removed all of them from all the Bat! screens. If A there's something I hate it's toolbars. In applications

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Oleg, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:19:48 +0500 GMT (19/09/2000, 18:19 +0800 GMT), Oleg Zalyalov wrote: OZ You waste your time positioning mouse over buttons, you waste your OZ screen space for those buttons. Of course, it's your time and your OZ screen. That's true. Maybe I'm just used

Re[2]: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-19 Thread Gerd Ewald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Karin Spaink ! On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:14:32 +0200 GMT your local time, which was 19.09.2000, 01:14 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote: snip KS Ahh!! Yet better. Jummie. I am getting to like this mail KS client... snip Haha, I thought this

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Ming-Li
On Tuesday, September 19, 2000, 3:19:48 AM, Oleg wrote: TF Just for your info, I use the toolbar buttons all the time. I TF do not ever use keyboard shortcuts, with one exception: ALT-F2 TF when I'm on the way from the TV to the bathroom. ;-) You waste your time positioning mouse over

Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])" From Ming-Li: " M Their requests are nonetheless legitimate, IMHO, and there's no M need to treat them as threats to the integrity of TB (or

Re[2]: Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em])

2000-09-19 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Wednesday, September 20, 2000, Ming-Li wrote to Oleg Zalyalov on TBUDL about Keyboard shortcuts (was: Odd behavioural complaints? [was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em]): ML I consider myself a keyboard person, and enjoy many

Re: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-19 Thread Gerd Ewald
Karin schrieb am 19.09.00: snip grin But I'll keep pestering you people with questions, complaints, mix-ups and remarks for a while anyway. LOL, I think that is ok ! All the time I'm reading this list, with every question I learned more and more stuff about TB!'s features without even

Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Karin Spaink
A new question. I'm afraid I'll have some more as time passes. In my setup of TB, I use the Full-width preview pane: mailboxes on the left, incoming mail on the right, no preview of seperate messages; due to the amount of mailboxes and mail in them, I need the full space available. This means

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Oliver Sturm
Hello Karin, Monday, September 18, 2000, 2:37:12 PM, you wrote: This means that when reading mail I have to double-click individual messages in order to be able to read them, which is fine with me. The only thing that I miss is the option from _within_ a message to delete it, so that I

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Karin Spaink
On 18-09-2000 at 14:53, Oliver Sturm kindly wrote: Hello Karin, Monday, September 18, 2000, 2:37:12 PM, you wrote: This means that when reading mail I have to double-click individual messages in order to be able to read them, which is fine with me. The only thing that I miss is the option

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Karin, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:37:12 +0200 GMT (18/09/2000, 20:37 +0800 GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS The only KS thing that I miss is the option from _within_ a KS message to delete it, so that I automatically KS navigate to the next unread message in the thread. KS Is this possible?

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Karin Spaink, Responding to your article on Monday, September 18, 2000 at 14:37:12 GMT +0200 (which was 18/09/2000 19:37 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : KS This means that when reading mail I have to double-click individual KS messages in order to be able to read them, which is fine with

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Karin Spaink
At 20:49 18-09-2000 +0700, Syafril Hermansyah kindly wrote: Hello Karin Spaink, KS This means that when reading mail I have to double-click individual KS messages in order to be able to read them, which is fine with me. KS The only thing that I miss is the option from _within_ a message

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Karin Spaink
At 21:33 18-09-2000 +0800, Thomas Fernandez kindly wrote: KS The only KS thing that I miss is the option from _within_ a KS message to delete it, so that I automatically KS navigate to the next unread message in the thread. KS Is this possible? Have you tried hitting the del key? Yes,

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Karin, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:57:08 +0200 GMT (18/09/2000, 21:57 +0800 GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS KS The only KS KS thing that I miss is the option from _within_ a KS KS message to delete it, so that I automatically KS KS navigate to the next unread message in the thread. KS KS Is

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread A . Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:01:26 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: KS While you read individual message, active "message list" from view KS menu. KS Yes !! That's the one. Thank you a lot. Also note Karin, that the message list in the folder view works

Re[2]: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread David Tod Sigafoos
Hello A, Monday, September 18, 2000, 10:50:19 AM, you wrote: ACM Also note Karin, that the message list in the folder view works ACM independently of the message list view in the main TB! window. The ACM folder view window works with it's own message list as well. This is why ACM you thought

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread A . Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:59:56 -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS Hmmm .. so how do you make it so the 'folder viewer' works the same as DTS the main tb! window? You have to manually configure it to do so. Another twist of configurability is that

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Karin Spaink
On 18-09-2000 at 19:50, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:01:26 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: KS While you read individual message, active "message list" from view KS menu. KS Yes !! That's the one. Thank you a lot. Note also, the navigational keys on the view folder

Re[2]: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Avenarius
A Bat-fellow, Karin Spaink, wrote on Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 1:14:32 CET -- KS On 18-09-2000 at 19:50, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: Note also, the navigational keys on the view folder toolbars. The four buttons with the arrow keys, move you to the next or previous message, with or

Odd behavioural complaints? (was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em)

2000-09-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Avenarius, On Monday, September 18, 2000 at 04:38:42 GMT +0200 (which was 7:38 PM where I live) witnesses say Avenarius typed: Sorry, I need to add my customary complaint here. How come there are four darned *buttons* available, but (once your cursor is located in the preview

Re: Odd behavioural complaints? (was: Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em)

2000-09-18 Thread Joe Finocchiaro
Monday, September 18, 2000, 10:11:46 PM, Januk Aggarwal, wrote: [...] However, on the *whole*, The Bat! is without competition and I wouldn't consider switching to another mail client no matter what. JA I agree wholeheartedly on this point. Heck, I'll gladly third that motion and I can't

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Avenarius, On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 04:38:42 +0200GMT (19/09/2000, 10:38 +0800GMT), Avenarius wrote: Note also, the navigational keys on the view folder toolbars. The four buttons with the arrow keys, move you to the next or previous message, with or without first deleting the present message.

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi A, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:24:36 -0500GMT (19/09/2000, 03:24 +0800GMT), A . Curtis Martin wrote: DTS Hmmm .. so how do you make it so the 'folder viewer' works the same as DTS the main tb! window? ACM You have to manually configure it to do so. You actually *can* connect them, so that the

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread Ming-Li
On Monday, September 18, 2000, 7:38:42 PM, Avenarius wrote: Also, the CTRL+V and CTRL+C shortcuts are disfunctional -- and these two are disfunctional not merely in the preview window but in the main reader window as well! I guess you want to use Ctrl-V and Ctrl-C to move/copy the message to

Re: Deleting messages and spacebarring through 'em

2000-09-18 Thread A . Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:17:30 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DTS Hmmm .. so how do you make it so the 'folder viewer' works the DTS same as the main tb! window? ACM You have to manually configure it to do so. TF You actually *can* connect them, so