Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
Hello Melissa, 25. marec 2002, 20:17:20, you wrote: MR> I just get a bunch of that (above) from that message. No decoding at MR> all here. Yep, that's what everybody's getting. Some stupid server removed `Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base-64` from the header... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Marck, 25. marec 2002, 18:33:58, you wrote: MDP> Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it? Umm... No :( -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] A man should be greater than some

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, March 25, 2002, at 9:10:51 AM PST, Jernej Simoncic wrote: > SGVsbG8gdHJhY2VyLA0KDQoyNS4gbWFyZWMgMjAwMiwgMTc6MzE6MzAsIHl I just get a bunch of that (above) from that message. No decoding at all here. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @25 March 2002, 18:52:26 +0100 (17:52 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>> Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it? > I think this is an old problem we already have had on l

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Marck, On Monday, March 25, 2002 at 6:33:58 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): >> BTW: Melissa, what about this message, I sent it as base64, maybe it >> won't get autoconverted back to 8bit. >>ÿþ<< MDP> Oops! That base64 encoding didn't decode very well, did it?

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jernej, @25 March 2002, 18:10:51 +0100 (17:10 UK time) Jernej Simoncic wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > BTW: Melissa, what about this message, I sent it as base64, maybe it > won't get autoconverted back to 8bit. >>ÿþ<< Oops!

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Jernej, On Monday, March 25, 2002 at 6:10:51 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): JS> BTW: Melissa, what about this message, I sent it as base64, maybe it JS> won't get autoconverted back to 8bit. >>ÿþ<< No. It wasn't. But it's 'Content-Transfer-Encoding:' got lost

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Jernej Simoncic
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Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread tracer
Hello Jernej Simončič, On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:20:07 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 5:20:07 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jernej Simončič wrote: > Hello tracer, > 25. marec 2002, 1:38:17, you wrote: t>> Seems to me a bug in the html viewer and maybe the translat

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread tracer
Hello Robert Golovniov, On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:58:35 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 6:58:35 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Robert Golovniov wrote: > Hello Melissa, > Sunday, March 24, 2002, 10:57:23 PM, you wrote: MR>> ÿþ > Wow! What I can see here are two Cyri

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread tracer
Hello Dwight A Corrin, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:40:44 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 8:40:44 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dwight A Corrin wrote: > On Sunday, March 24, 2002, 7:12:18 PM, tracer wrote: >> is everybody using the FIXED or the 'proportional' HTML view

Re[2]: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Robert Golovniov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Melissa, Sunday, March 24, 2002, 10:57:23 PM, you wrote: MR> ÿþ Wow! What I can see here are two Cyrillic characters. How come? - -- Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Robert Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-25 Thread Jernej Simončič
Hello tracer, 25. marec 2002, 1:38:17, you wrote: t> Seems to me a bug in the html viewer and maybe the translation t> tables... We already concluded that it was server trouble... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 9

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 4:52:26 PM PST, tracer wrote: >> [I'm not sure what you've sent, but in your message as received >> here, *everything* after the above quoted part is missing. There >> are not even any list trailers. What I've quoted abo

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, 7:12:18 PM, tracer wrote: > is everybody using the FIXED or the 'proportional' HTML viewer > results here arent the same... so, what's the difference?? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello is everybody using the FIXED or the 'proportional' HTML viewer results here arent the same... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 ___

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:30:15 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 4:30:15 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Melissa Reese wrote: > On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:05:50 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: >> At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in who

Re[2]: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Walt Newcomb
Hello tracer Sunday, March 24, 2002, 5:52:26 PM, you wrote: t> Hello Melissa Reese, t> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:30:15 -0800 GMT your local time, t> which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 4:30:15 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, t> Melissa Reese wrote: >> On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:05:50 PM PST, W

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:57:23 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:57:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Melissa Reese wrote: > I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* > of the characters here (aside from the list trail

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Jernej Simonèiè, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:57:55 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:57:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: > Hello Melissa, > 24. marec 2002, 21:35:23, you wrote: >>> Can you see these chars: "þ" (this mail is QP encoded).

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:44:57 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:44:57 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: > @ 15:11:55 -0500 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote these > words of wisdom:... ACM>> Are you using the ne

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:35:23 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:35:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Melissa Reese wrote: > On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:13:33 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: >> What if your server doesn't tolerate 8-bit char

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Walt Newcomb, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:02:57 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 5:02:57 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Walt Newcomb wrote: > Hello Melissa > Sunday, March 24, 2002, 2:56:12 PM, you wrote: MR>> Sorry for the over-quoting above, but I wanted to leav

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Allie C Martin, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:11:55 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 3:11:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: > @ 11:36:03 -0800 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these > words of wisdom:... MR>> Well, here's another *v

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread tracer
Hello Nick Andriash, On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:50:26 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Monday, March 25, 2002, 2:50:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: > Hello Melissa Reese, > On Sunday, March 24 2002 at 11:36 AM PDT, you wrote: >> I just copy/pasted those two characters

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:36:37, you wrote: MR> The only difference between the two messages is the missing list MR> trailers in the cc'd message. Could you send the headers of my CCed message? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The B

Re[2]: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Walt Newcomb
Hello Melissa Sunday, March 24, 2002, 2:56:12 PM, you wrote: MR> Sorry for the over-quoting above, but I wanted to leave it as MR> unchanged as possible. MR> As you can see, in what I've quoted here, the umlaut-y character is MR> missing (I did include it when I sent the original message). MR>

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:36:12 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: > I think I know why that happens - umlaut-y is ASCII 255, which may > have some special meaning to your server. Thank you for pointing that out. I seem to be having the same prob

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:44:12 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: > This is what I see in Eudora Pro 5.1 > At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as > follows: --<< Begin Quote >>-- >>I'll not PGP sign this

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Walt Newcomb
This is what I see in Eudora Pro 5.1 At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: --<< Begin Quote >>-- >I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* >of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, >the

Re[2]: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Walt Newcomb
Hello Melissa Sunday, March 24, 2002, 2:30:15 PM, you wrote: MR> On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:05:50 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: >> At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as >> follows: >> --<< Begin Quote >>-- >> I'll not PGP sign this message, and

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:16:24 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: > Hello Melissa, > 24. marec 2002, 22:02:20, you wrote: MR>> In source view, I still only see the þ character. The umlaut-y MR>> character seems to be working sort of like a "pree

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:19:22, you wrote: MR> [everything below that paragraph was missing in the message that came MR> back to me - even the list trailers!] I think I know why that happens - umlaut-y is ASCII 255, which may have some special meaning to your server. -- Jernej Simonc

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 1:05:50 PM PST, Walt Newcomb wrote: > At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as > follows: > --<< Begin Quote >>-- > I'll not PGP sign this message, and > I'll now try to copy/

Re[2]: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Walt Newcomb
Hello Melissa Sunday, March 24, 2002, 1:57:23 PM, you wrote: MR> I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* MR> of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, MR> there should still be a sentence or two and my regular non-PGP MR> signature below the

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Walt Newcomb
This is what I see in Eudora Pro 5.1 At12:57 3/24/2002 -0800, Melissa Reese said, in whole or in part, as follows: --<< Begin Quote >>-- I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the bottom, there

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:57:23 PM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: > I'll not PGP sign this message, and I'll now try to copy/paste > *both* of the characters here (aside from the list trailers at the > bottom, there should still be a sentence or tw

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 22:02:20, you wrote: MR> In source view, I still only see the þ character. The umlaut-y MR> character seems to be working sort of like a "preemptive signature MR> delimiter". I'm really becoming confused by this. Are you confused MR> yet? :-) OK, the message w

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:57:23 -0800, Melissa Reese [MR] graced us with these comments: ... MR> I'm beginning to wonder about this myself. I've been using this MR> particular account for all my message lists for quite a while now, MR> and this is the fi

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:57:55 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: >>> Can you see these chars: "þ" (this mail is QP encoded). MR>> I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* MR>> within the quotes. This one: þ > The umlaut-

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:44:57 PM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: > After reading the rest of the thread as it came in I see that this > couldn't be the problem. Right. > I see all of your messages in their entirety, with all the characters > you wish to send. Since with both Becky and TB! y

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 21:35:23, you wrote: >> Can you see these chars: "þ" (this mail is QP encoded). MR> I'm not sure how many characters you sent, but I see only *one* within MR> the quotes. This one: þ The umlaut-y was there, too... What do you see in source view (F9)? -- Jernej

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Allie C Martin
@ 15:11:55 -0500 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote these words of wisdom:... ACM> Are you using the new RTV? After reading the rest of the thread as it came in I see that this couldn't be the problem. I see all of your messages in their entirety, with all the characters you wish to

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:11:55 PM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: > Are you using the new RTV? No - I'm using the "fixed width font" viewer. > What font is the RTV set to use? Perhaps the different font is > unable to display the characters. If

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:13:33 PM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: > What if your server doesn't tolerate 8-bit characters in message > body? As far as I know, I've never had any trouble with displaying 8-bit characters. > Can you see these char

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 20:53:58, you wrote: MR> Since this is not happening with all my messages, I'm really puzzled. What if your server doesn't tolerate 8-bit characters in message body? Can you see these chars: "ÿþ" (this mail is QP encoded). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Allie C Martin
@ 11:36:03 -0800 [ Sun, 24 Mar 2002], Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these words of wisdom:... MR> Well, here's another *very* strange twist... MR> I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP MR> signed it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all MR> works properly here),

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sunday, March 24 2002 at 11:36 AM PDT, you wrote: > I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP signed > it, and sent it to myself. The following (assuming all works properly > here), is *all* that showed up when I received the mail into another > acc

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:36:03 AM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: > Something really strange is happening with my TB! message display - > for both plain text and HTML. Another peculiar twist... If I look at my sent messages in the "sent" folder,

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:28:17 AM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: > I can see both y with umlaut and the b-like character fine here... Well, here's another *very* strange twist... I just copy/pasted those two characters into a new message, PGP

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Melissa Reese, On Sunday, March 24 2002 at 11:12 AM PDT, you wrote: > oops! ... > > gpg: Signature made 03/24/02 11:06:36 using DSA key ID FB04F2E9 > gpg: BAD signature from "Melissa Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" Hmmm? I received a good signature... but then again, I saw both characters wi

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread L Carlson
Hello Melissa, den 24 mars 2002, 20:12, you wrote: MR> oops! ... MR> gpg: Signature made 03/24/02 11:06:36 using DSA key ID FB04F2E9 MR> gpg: BAD signature from "Melissa Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" MR> Apparently, only one of the two "non-standard" characters I tried to MR> paste into the mess

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Jernej Simonèiè
Hello Melissa, 24. marec 2002, 20:12:26, you wrote: MR> Apparently, only one of the two "non-standard" characters I tried to MR> paste into the message showed up in my display just now when my MR> message came back to me. It was a "y" with two dots over it. There MR> should have been two charac

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:06:53 AM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: > I just noticed when I tried this on one such message, while the > plain text portion displayed properly, the HTML part displayed only > two non-standard characters ("þ") - but no m

Re: Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 9:41:48 AM PST, Melissa Reese wrote: > What happened? Can I adjust it to display HTML properly? I apologize for replying to my own message, but I want to add something I should have mentioned before... Sometimes, peop

Peculiar HTML display (v1.60)

2002-03-24 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I hardly ever look at the HTML version of mail, but there was one I got this morning that I wanted to see, so I clicked on the HTML tab. The display font was *huge* (some of the larger letters - even lower case - would fill almost my entire 1