Implementing a 'Scoring system' with TB filters

2006-04-06 Thread MAU
Hello all, I'm xposting to TBBeta and TBUDL because not everyone is on both lists. Last Sunday, in TBUDL, George M. Menegakis expressed his wish for a Scoring System for TB in his mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and some others agreed it would be a nice feature to have in TB. I thought such a system

Re: Implementing a 'Scoring system' with TB filters

2006-04-06 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, snipped REMEMBER: This will only work with v3.72.07 (and hopefully with newer ones). ***NOTE 3: I didn't try Common filters because sub-filters may not work. See BT report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, April 2, 2006, 5:27:35, Thomas Fernandez wrote: GMM Sender = My Boss score +20 Again, colour group or virutal filter. How do you do this without scoring: +10 From Thomas Marck Allie #+10 points to any message from these persons -5 Subject Bug #-5 if the message

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Jernej Simončič everyone else, on 02-Apr-2006 at 11:49 you (Jernej Simončič) wrote: Keep in mind that this is a very simple scoring example, and that scorefiles can grow really big Who would want to maintain such a file manually? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, April 2, 2006, 12:23:59, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Who would want to maintain such a file manually? Anybody on high-volume mailing list. -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ You never find anything until you replace it. -- Harper's Law

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Jernej, On 02-04-2006 12:37, you [JS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Who would want to maintain such a file manually? JS Anybody on high-volume mailing list. Any some people using TB/MyGate for news. I'd support it. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Peter, On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PF Any some people using TB/MyGate for news. Surely Sorting office filters do just as good a job? I used Mygate for quite a while and it worked fine. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.72.05 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
not had the need to score. As I said, scoring makes sense on the usenet, because you can easily be downloading 1000 new postings in the evening, but I do not see the need for mailing lists, even though it is theoretically there. PF Any some people using TB/MyGate for news. I use MyGate. And that's

Re: Wish: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread George Μ. Menegakis
if you are member in some mailing lists with high volume traffic? Mail is sorted to the specified folder by the filter, but I'm not interested in all messages. Scoring could help these situations GMM From match aol.com score -10 If this is a friend, you don't want to score him down. If you want

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Jernej Simončič everyone else, on 02-Apr-2006 at 12:37 you (Jernej Simončič) wrote: Who would want to maintain such a file manually? Anybody on high-volume mailing list. Maybe. Personally, I consider TBOT and TBBETA high volume (at least sometimes). But I don't see how a scoring

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, April 2, 2006, 16:16:26, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: But I don't see how a scoring filter would help, like, keep the message unread if the score is +50, mark the message half-read or what when it is +20, and mark as read when its 0? :-) What is it good for? In newsgroups I have rules

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Chris
Alexander S. Kunz @ 4/02/2006 9:16:26 AM Implementation of scoring system mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My approach is an ignore filter that contains multiple conditions (subjects like imap, gmail, bayes ie. stuff I don't care about and have little to do with, certain senders, etc.), marking those

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Chris, On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C It would be nice to have a built-in ignore thread filter that would C automatically mark a whole thread and any subsequent replies read. A very useful and sensible suggestion and I've just supported it. -- Regards, Richard

Re[2]: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Who would want to maintain such a file manually? JS Anybody on high-volume mailing list. PF Any some people using TB/MyGate for news. PF I'd support it. Me too! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Your nearly duplicate taglines are wasted space.

Re[2]: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : RW Hello Peter, RW On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 you wrote in RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PF Any some people using TB/MyGate for news. RW Surely Sorting office filters do just as good a job? I used Mygate for RW quite a while and it worked fine. Not as powerful, IMHO.

Re: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Fjelsten everyone else, on 02-Apr-2006 at 13:14 you (Peter Fjelsten) wrote: Who would want to maintain such a file manually? JS Anybody on high-volume mailing list. Any some people using TB/MyGate for news. Since TB is not a newsreader by default, wouldn't it make more sense to

Wish: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-01 Thread George M. Menegakis
Hello ppl! Anyone is interested in implementation of scoring system can add his/hers comments at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5792 What is the scoring system? The scoring system was born at the news readers. It is not widely known, as for example the filters or the kill files

Re: Wish: Implementation of scoring system

2006-04-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
, you don't want to score him down. If you want to weed out spam, this won't help. GMM Sender = My Boss score +20 Again, colour group or virutal filter. Scoring makes sense in the usenet, because there are thousands of postings that you receive per day if you are subscribed to a few NGs. Many

BayesIt scoring

2004-10-16 Thread Roman Katzer
Is there a way to see what score BayesIt gave a message? Just upgraded to 3.0.1.33 and use BayesIt for the forst time (dodn#t work before). Roman -- What is Snow White's favorite drink? Seven up. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL'

Re: BayesIt scoring

2004-10-16 Thread Paul White
On Saturday, 16 October 2004 at 18:56 (UK time), Roman Katzer said: Is there a way to see what score BayesIt gave a message? Just upgraded to 3.0.1.33 and use BayesIt for the forst time (dodn#t work before). Check the 'Filter' lines of the Account Log. Not the best way but as far as I know,

Re: BayesIt scoring

2004-10-16 Thread Roman Katzer
On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 14:36:57, Paul White wrote: Check the 'Filter' lines of the Account Log. Not the best way but as far as I know, the only way. Thanks, I'll try that and promise to proof-read my messages in the future :) Roman -- Foreign Aid - taxing poor people in rich

Re: BayesIT scoring

2004-08-24 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Michael, On 24 Aug 2004 at 21:48:35 -0700 GMT [06:48 CEST] you wrote: MLW How can I tell the score of individual messages using BayesIT 5.11? I MLW have looked in BayesIT.log and cannot figure it out. Any assistance MLW would be appreciated. Graham: 1 Spam-grade: 1 That's the spam

Re: BayesIT scoring

2004-08-24 Thread Jan Rifkinson
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Andre Wichartz wrote the following in regards to BayesIT scoring: AW Graham: 1 AW Spam-grade: 1 AW That's the spam probability (don't ask me for the difference of the AW two) AW Value for The Bat!: 99 AW That's the score that's given two tb

Re: BayesIT scoring

2004-08-24 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Jan, On 24 Aug 2004 at 08:14:15 -0400 GMT [14:14 CEST] you wrote: JR Are you saying that the black/white list rules are basically +/- 99 No, I wasn't speaking about blacklists at all. I think whitlisted mails get a score of 0, blacklisted of 100 and the rest is 1..99. -- Cheers, Andre

BayesIT scoring

2004-08-23 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Hi, It may have been covered before, but I cannot find the message thread: How can I tell the score of individual messages using BayesIT 5.11? I have looked in BayesIT.log and cannot figure it out. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- __ __ _ __ | \/ (_) ___|

Re: SOT XNews (Was: Scoring (was: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!))

2000-01-14 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
Hello Steve, On Tuesday, January 11, 2000 you wrote: Does anyone using Xnews know if and how you can download messages to read off-line? No. See its manual. But you can use Hamster -- local news and mail server. I don't use it yet, but I've heard it makes a quite powerful tandem with

Re[2]: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-12 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hi Steve, Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful for mailing list as well... SL One would think until you try to wrestle with the idea of how to implement SL it in the email context.

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-12 Thread Steve Lamb
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 1:37:36 AM, Stefan wrote: OK, you'll see it :-) There's much more I'd rather see. However, I've made that abundantly clear over the past few months. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:37:59 AM, Thomas wrote: And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"? Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup article based on the rules provided in the score

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:37:59 AM, you wrote: And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"? Not a stupid question. I just discovered it when I downloaded Xnews today. It is a way of ranking messages in a newsgroup based upon very fancy filters. I d

SOT XNews (Was: Scoring (was: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!))

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:00:08 AM, Januk wrote: Off Topic Question: Does anyone using Xnews know if and how you can download messages to read off-line? No. See its manual. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re[2]: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Steve, Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful for mailing list as well... Best regards, Stefan ...Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (yep/Nope) --

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:03:46 -0800GMT (11/01/2000, 17:03 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"? SL Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has filtering) [...] SL get per day. That is why I said emai

Re[3]: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Claudius Regn
Hello, ST Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did ST not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful ST for mailing list as well... And I see our new feature rising at the horizon... -- With best regards, Claudius Regn

Re: Scoring (was:Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!)

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:34:17 AM, Stefan wrote: Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful for mailing list as well... One would think until you try to wrestle with the idea of how to

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 at 01:03:46 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has SL filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup SL article based on the rules provided in the score. Good explanation Steve. You've convinced

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:02:19 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: SL Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has SL filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup SL article based on the rules provided in the score. Good explanation Steve. You've convinced me

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 05:56:15PM -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: Steve also described what Agent had (which I mistakenly thought was scoring), and although I find that meets my needs at present, true "Scoring" sure does sound interesting. I might try X-News just to see for myself, a

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 6:30:56 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: 1: Gravity also has scoring. Of the two, XNews and Gravity, I think Gravity it is easier to configure scoring for the neophytes out there. XNews takes a more traditional approach to the score file. You know, I tried Gravity

Re[2]: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Steve Lamb, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:30:56 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 9:30:56 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Steve Lamb wrote: Steve Just two things I wanted to add about scoring. Steve 1: Gravity also has scoring. Of the two, XNews and Gravity, I

Re[2]: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Nick Andriash, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:16:08 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 10:16:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: Nick Besides, I'm not so sure Agent will be supported for much longer. Thanks. Why do you think that? Best regards,

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:09:34 PM, tracer wrote: Why do you think that? For no other reason than a feeling I get from talking to other Agent users and reading the Agent Newsgroups. There hasn't been any official word from the developers, aside from hearsay, that there is ongoing

Re[2]: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread tracer
Hello Nick Andriash, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:36:21 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 1:36:21 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: Nick On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:09:34 PM, tracer wrote: Why do you think that? Nick For no other reason than a

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Keith Russell
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:36:21 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:09:34 PM, tracer wrote: Why do you think that? For no other reason than a feeling I get from talking to other Agent users and reading the Agent Newsgroups. There hasn't been any official word from the

Re: Scoring

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Andriash
On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 10:56:38 PM, tracer wrote: Ok, I donot read the Agent groups but I do run the latest version. If its really going to be dead... Thanks. Now, that's just a "gut feeling" I have Tracer... I wouldn't suggest _you_ do anything regarding your use of Agent whatsoever,