Re: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)
On Monday, November 01, 1999 Alexander V. Kiselev wrote: Before the crash he had 1 primary and 1 extended partition, 2 logicals on the latter. After the crash, he had only *one* (primary) partition. The rest of the partitions just perished. The data lost. On the primary partition that seemed to survive all the data *but windows and office* was trashed, too. Did he really lost everything? AFAIK Windows sometimes messes up the partition table, but it is reversible (after longer or shorter time of calculating new one manually)... Regards, -- Christopher J. Trybowski ~~~ === [EMAIL PROTECTED] === [EMAIL PROTECTED] === uin: 4350719 === == http://wil.linux.krakow.pl/~trybik == pgp-keys: 0xB92EEE69 0x9382700B == ( get-pgp-key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=send_key ) Using The Bat! 1.36 [reg] under Windows 98 4.10 build 1998. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?
Hello, On jeudi 28 octobre 1999, someone (you) said : SL Love that prediction. You know, there are a slew of people who don't want SL to use the mouse for many operations you would claim they would not want to SL use the keyboard for. I'm sorry, I'd rather type out many commands than say SL them because I can type them faster. SL rm -rf /foo/* | less SL "Arr Emm space dash arr eff space slash foo slash star space pipe less" SL "Computer, recursively and forcably delete all files in the root level SL directory foo, display the resulting information in the pager less" SL Oh, yeah, that is much easier. Yeah. *eyeroll* Nice one. I liked it :-) What could we "say" for the command "w" ? Regards, Christophe Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Installing HP printers (Was: Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy)
Hi, ... PF The source of the printing PF problems, however, probably originates with the office suite, Corel. PF WordPerfect and HP printers have a long history of not getting along PF real well, although I've found that HP printers, especially their PF drivers, are not what they used to be. In my experience, it's VERY important to install HP printers via the HP setup program and NOT via the control panel. The later did not work for me, although there were no error messages. Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)
Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Kevin, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote: Kevin Hi, Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather like men. Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out what the problem is. Women, on the other hand, are the ones who go silent, pout and pull out that lovely line, "You know what's wrong!" Sure, uh-huh. Kevin In *my* experience, A larger percentage of women aren't as savvy with Kevin operating systems and their problems but tend to know the applications Kevin pretty well. They listen to what you say and appreciate your help. A larger Kevin percentage of men have some idea what they are doing with the OS, but they Kevin won't listen as closely and they try to act like they know more than they Kevin do. Kevin The real headache for tech support seems to be those guys that think they Kevin are guru's and know more about network, LAN, and mainframe support than the Kevin experts, when their only real experience is on their own PC's. They get Kevin torqued at things that don't happen the way they think they should (I'm not Kevin talking about real problems) and constantly complain and try to TELL you Kevin how things should be done. Kevin The clueless people actually are *usually* no big problem to help because Kevin they typically have easy problems to fix. It's just that they do tend to Kevin call you more often. But they do tend make for some funny stories to tell Kevin among the other techs and keep life interesting. :-) Kevin Thanks, Kevin Kevin Boylan Kevin Kevin Using The Bat! 1.36 Kevin Under Windows NT4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 3 I kind of agree with this and you ccan add that the guys who think they know in general try to fix it themselves making the problem worse then it was before they did that and then deny they did anything at all... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Computer Philosophy
Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Steve, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote: clueless user with one about the clueless support person. Steve I seriously doubt that. The office I was in. 10 techs. We'd get 10-12 Steve calls a *week* from people who had an incorrect password, cussing us out, Steve because their *CAPSLOCK KEY WAS ON*. That was at a small ISP. Capslock key. Steve Think loong and hard before replying to that one because we stopped Steve counting after a while once our curiosity was satisfied. Water or something like that in a keyboard also does miracles to typing... All characters were like control + key Or sprite/sticky stuff, you can get autotyping effects(g) On the other hand I am now stuck with a customer whose password when I set it up was 9 characters long (my mistake) but the silly person who wrote the modification script only allows 8 so I cannot change it and neither can he... So we need to reset it! OR where the isp on setup doesnt check on legal USA characters while customer runs German / Scandinavian windows and ends up being setup but the Linux server hasnt got a clue what his name is... Or internet setup kits supposedly fool proof which insist to install a modified IE on the system (which cannot be used for anything else unless you delete the signup directory etc from wherevever the damned thing stuck it, happily overwriting other language versions... if our local isp's kit gets used, you get ip numbers which are guaranteed useless, probably for Bangkok like the phone number but not doing much good for anywhere else. AND rewriting network settings becauses as ISP 3 years ago they messed up so you have to specify domains as otherwise nobody knows who you are. And reverse lookups not working so that if I go irc where I was an operator on a server, nobody knows who you are... Not just here either, I had a lady who had webTV in Belgium and essentially they stuck any possible protocol in and in such a way you got never get on the web with a normal account unless you threw that stuff out. After which the fax didnt work (started working again of its own free will when she got home so a reformat was postponed...) Steve Inept techs didn't last long there. Inept customers just kept on coming. ofcourse, but as in my case, it can also be profitable as customers will pay to get those things sorted out. As long as they see you honstesly help them and try to prevent reoccurence. But for that, support over a phone doesnt work! Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re-indexing
I have returned to The Bat! and like it enough this time around to have purchased the edu licence :-) However, I have noticed during the past 4 days, that I have had to repair 4 different folders. I had a similar problem when I first tried The Bat!, but nothing like this. I should add, that my system now is so different from my original system, both harware- and software-wise, that I don't think the problem is my setup. It is not too difficult to repair, but it is a pain in you know where, and if it really is a built-in weakness (feature?), why not make the reinexing much easier? Kind regards / Venlig hilsen, Mogens mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:56 +0700 tracer [EMAIL PROTECTED] expounded: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Kevin, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote: Kevin Hi, Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather like men. Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out what the problem is. Women, on the other hand, are the ones who go silent, pout and pull out that lovely line, "You know what's wrong!" Sure, uh-huh. Kevin In *my* experience, A larger percentage of women aren't as savvy with Kevin operating systems and their problems but tend to know the applications Kevin pretty well. They listen to what you say and appreciate your help. A larger Kevin percentage of men have some idea what they are doing with the OS, but they Kevin won't listen as closely and they try to act like they know more than they Kevin do. Kevin The real headache for tech support seems to be those guys that think they Kevin are guru's and know more about network, LAN, and mainframe support than the Kevin experts, when their only real experience is on their own PC's. They get Kevin torqued at things that don't happen the way they think they should (I'm not Kevin talking about real problems) and constantly complain and try to TELL you Kevin how things should be done. Kevin The clueless people actually are *usually* no big problem to help because Kevin they typically have easy problems to fix. It's just that they do tend to Kevin call you more often. But they do tend make for some funny stories to tell Kevin among the other techs and keep life interesting. :-) Kevin Thanks, Kevin Kevin Boylan Kevin Kevin Using The Bat! 1.36 Kevin Under Windows NT4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 3 I kind of agree with this and you ccan add that the guys who think they know in general try to fix it themselves making the problem worse then it was before they did that and then deny they did anything at all... I got a good compliment from a tech support person the other day, after a short conversation he said, "Yes! You have a clue, what a relief!". We then conversed on many subjects most not related to the problem (which we did solve) and after 15 minutes of non-related conversation I told him I had to go. He said, "You really helped me relieve some stress and smooth my day." I felt pretty good about that, it's nice to simply chat and help somebody out. PS. I'm male. -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - Black holes suck! - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
