glyphs documentation request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone... The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up with some glyphs of my own. I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie. logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out the outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured I'm not really sure) Does anyone know where I can find information on how TB uses the glyph file? TB help file and Marck's TB FAQ weren't helpful. (pssst Marck, this would be a nice addition to the FAQ :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOdgv9q2yGRAwhL7EEQJW8QCghr19QYCWP3RnpcFx3A2HXiHFYl4AnRzp XIfhzxD0KvGaQp+2//u4VUkL =bE0s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jason Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x3084BEC4 [The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5] --- Happiness isn't getting what you want. It's wanting what you got. //The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5 //Win98 v4.10 build 1998 //AMD K6-2 400mhz 128mb -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Grid index out of range?
Hello Charlie Turner (ceejay), On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:07:31 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, September 30, 2000, 08:07:31 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: CTc That describes my experience exactly, I guess it's nothing to CTc bother about as it doesn't appear to have any lasting effect. I'd CTc like to learn why this happens - purely to satisfy my own CTc curiosity, I like to know *why* things happen. Grid index out of bounds is a Delphi/Pascal error message. I'm almost sure it's to do with calling a position in an array outside of the current bounds. However, if it really it an array the error message would be 'List Index out of bounds' (the same error message as for a list box being referenced greater than the listBox.Items.Count value). As it's a Grid Index out of bounds I'm assuming that the message list window is actually a grid (a la Excel) not as I first assumed a ListBox. As we can't see the source code (unless you'd like to be really nice to us Steffan) this is only a best guess. -- Jamie Dainton On Monday, October 02, 2000 at 08:23:31 The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Epigram: Ada is the 400-pound gorilla of programming languages. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Accounts Question
I installed the filter on my less-used email address, and it works fine. Now I have to check only one box for all my email. The Inbox, Outbox, Sent, and Trash folders in the account for the less-used address are basically not used and everything gets put into folders in the major account. Makes things much simpler for me, and I can still reply with the lesser-used address from the major or dominant mailbox. Thanks again to all. Mike Greenbaum -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: glyphs documentation request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jason, On 02 October 2000 at 23:50:12 GMT -0700 (which was 07:50 where I live) Jason Thompson wrote and made these points on the subject of "glyphs documentation request": JT Does anyone know where I can find information on how TB uses the glyph JT file? TB help file and Marck's TB FAQ weren't helpful. (pssst Marck, JT this would be a nice addition to the FAQ :-) (okay - when the answer comes up I'll paste it in there!) - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Why don't sheep shrink when it rains? TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOdhVYznkJKuSnc2gEQJOlwCfT9cSxoSSmXy0XRKPF4BNepzU4xEAoIDQ n2CTOuWLghG3F2hPb3Q7eOR6 =pxb3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: glyphs documentation request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:50:12 -0700, Jason Thompson wrote: JT The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up JT with some glyphs of my own. JT I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie. JT logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out JT the outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured JT I'm not really sure) chuckle I should have read on before writing one of my earlier messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified any glyph files. I suggest forwarding your query to Ritlabs support. I'll make some enquires myself and get back to you when I've struck gold. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A friend: someone who likes you even after they know you. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdhqpfAXeSHuB5k3EQI30wCgx9lP3O5R2hjnmnFGECkH3+orBmAAn2lx 71njuAHrSCa41gvePtfLuZBz =bX2d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Hot Mail
Hello BatListers, Does anyone access a MSN Hotmail account thru TB!? If so, could you tell me what your settings are so I can compare them with mine? Thanks. Regards, Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: glyphs documentation request
Hello A . Curtis Martin, Responding to your article on Mon, 2 Oct 2000 at 05:59:49 GMT -0500 (which was 02/10/2000 17:59 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : JT The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up JT with some glyphs of my own. JT I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie. JT logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out JT the outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured JT I'm not really sure) ACM chuckle I should have read on before writing one of my earlier ACM messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified ACM any glyph files. I suggest forwarding your query to Ritlabs support. I still have the collection on ftp://ftp.dutaint.co.id/the_bat/util-option/ classic.zip --- from Max glyphs.bmp --- from Stefan new_glyphs.bmp --- from Marek Mikus awglyphs.bmp --- from Christopher J. Trybowski -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Monday, October 02, 2000, 20:46:42 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: [link] opens active folder's template instead of general account template
On 01-10-2000 at 00:44, JMReichow kindly wrote: ( Funny the same question came up on the German TB list during the discussion of the new MAPI.DLL; it seems the /default/ account (and its templates) are, logically, the ones invoked through MAPI from e.g. Forté Agent. Is there a new MAPI.dll? checks http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html Right. There is, albeit still in beta. Downloaded it, put it in TB's program directory and run thebat /InstallMAPI; set Agent to send mail using MAPI applications. However, no matter what I do - change Netscape's preferences, edit the liprefs.js file manually - Netscape Messenger insists on intercepting MAPI application calls. Any ideas? - K - -- His apparent self-possession was really the fragile stasis of an ancient vase and if he had let himself be moved, or show feeling, he would have broken into a thousand pieces. - Alan Judd: The Devil's Own Work -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
email services that work well w/ TB!
Hello TBUDL members, After 4 months off-line (traveling w/o a portable computer), I learned that all mail in 3 of my email accounts was lost when the service provider went out of business at the end of august. I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email services that work well w/ TB! (I do *not* need an ISP, just 3 mail accounts, but not necessarily with the same source). The important issues are reliability and permanence, speed, the storage space provided, an absence of ads, low or nil cost and of course, that work well with TB! (*not* web based). Thanks in advance. Douglas Hinds -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: email services that work well w/ TB!
I use Opera Mail available at www.operamail.com It's FREE, gives 10MB of storage space, has no advertising and features mail forwarding and POP3 access. It also works just great with TB! I think they'll be around a while since the Opera Browser (which I own a copy of) is doing well and is getting more press everyday. POP server = operamail.com SMTP server = operamail.com Note: Their SMTP server requires login authentication so make sure TB! is set up that way for that account. -Doug On Monday, October 02, 2000 at 12:24:31 PM you said something like: Hello TBUDL members, After 4 months off-line (traveling w/o a portable computer), I learned that all mail in 3 of my email accounts was lost when the service provider went out of business at the end of august. I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email services that work well w/ TB! (I do *not* need an ISP, just 3 mail accounts, but not necessarily with the same source). The important issues are reliability and permanence, speed, the storage space provided, an absence of ads, low or nil cost and of course, that work well with TB! (*not* web based). Thanks in advance. Douglas Hinds -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: email services that work well w/ TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Douglas! On Monday, October 02, 2000 at 6:24:31 PM you wrote: I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email services that work well w/ TB! (I do *not* need an ISP, just 3 mail accounts, but not necessarily with the same source). The important issues are reliability and permanence, speed, the storage space provided, an absence of ads, low or nil cost and of course, that work well with TB! (*not* web based). I use GMX a German based service known for its web interface but - and that's why I choose it - also offering SMTP/POP. Just have a look at their homepage at www.gmx.net and search (in their help) for SMTP/POP. I think they are one of the best and will stay in business for much longer than many software companies. - -- Dierk Haasis The Bat! 1.46d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If all men acted from enlightened self interest, the world would be a paradise in comparison to what it is. (Bertrand Russell) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOdin8fTo1oA8g8dLEQJmcwCfYFRjEMjbu55BE4LzDfVMWv4m6u0AoKi1 55MwRXW89OiLpZbkXKs66JsH =1fkN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: email services that work well w/ TB!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Douglas and everyone else... DH I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email DH services that work well w/ TB! GMX is another good free email service. It offers both POP/SMTP and web-based email, and puts no ads on outgoing or incoming mails. I can't remember how much disk space you get off the top of my head, but I use my GMX account for all three TB discussion lists and have never had a problem. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOdjEp62yGRAwhL7EEQIUoACfXk+U0keRZqMY9ivN0qR+BMr8fBoAn0gR WQEJPnTJHVabJEmKQlDUv+/j =NhHn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jason Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x3084BEC4 [The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5] --- Sine of the Beast: 0.809016994 //The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5 //Win98 v4.10 build 1998 //AMD K6-2 400mhz 128mb -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: email services that work well w/ TB!
Hi Doug!
I can offer a few suggestions of email services I use, which are
POP3 AND WebBased accessible...and all are FREE:
Subdimension: 10mb space; POP3/IMAP/Web access
http://www.subdimension.com/freemail/index.html
Turbosport: 40mb space; POP3/IMAP/Web access; Autoresponders; Paging;
Forwarding more
http://www.turbosport.com/
Crosswinds: Unlimited space; POP3/Web access
http://home.crosswinds.net/services/
Coolmail: ( I couldn't determine from their site the actual amt.
of space, but..) POP3/Phone access; Calendar; Full Contact
Management System.
I use this email's BRONZE plan for POP3 email. There is a 60
minute limit for the FREE phone access...after that there is a
charge of 10cents per/min. They have a SILVER plan but I
use the Bronze which is FREE. I haven't checked my email via phone
yet but I can vouch that the POP3 works great thus far.
http://www.planetarymotion.com/
MyPad: Not a whole lot of space (1.5mb...approx 200 TEXT
messages) but they DO have a FORWARDING option AND PHONE
access.
Their POP3 access has a 5-star rating.
http://www.mypad.com
SoftHome:From their website:
Quotas are set according to available disk space. Available disk space
varies in
relation to advertising revenue. Currently:
Hard quota = 30MB / 500 files: Messages are accepted up to these limits.
Soft quota = 10MB / 300 files: If you hit your hard quota, your mailbox
size is
reduced to this.
Expiring Messages:
Large messages have a shorter life expectancy than small messages.
Messages you've seen have a shorter life expectancy than messages you
haven't seen.
Messages in your POP mailbox (aka your web-based inbox folder) have a
shorter
life expectancy than messages you've moved to a different web-based mail
folder.
Messages in your web-based Trash and Sent folders have a low life
expectancy.
Web-only folders (besides Trash and Sent) have a longer life expectancy
than the
INBOX folder. The INBOX folder is shared with POP.
With hard and soft quotas like that, we are over-booked.
Those quotas are for bursting, not for storage. For
example, you can receive high-volume mailing lists, but you can't leave
them here.
http://www.softhome.net
***I have used Softhome's POP3 access for over 2 years and have NEVER
had problems with it, except when they were running routine
maintenance. You will run into that no matter which one you use,
but in my own opinion, Softhome, Crosswinds and Mailroom are the
ones which give me the least problems connecting/checking/whatever
:D
Hope these are of some help. Good luck :D
Regards,
~~~Angel
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Re: Hot Mail
Hi Jan,
JR Does anyone access a MSN Hotmail account thru TB!? If so,
JR could you tell me what your settings are so I can compare
JR them with mine? Thanks.
TB! wont be able to access Hotmail by itself no matter what settings
you plop in there, so it needs a little help...therefore:
I use Web2Pop, and it works wonderfully with TB!. It's shareware but
worth it.
http://www.jmasoftware.com .
Be sure to read the instructions regarding modules and installation,
and if you have any questions with installing it I would be glad to help
you, off-list. :D
Regards,
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Re[4]: Grid index out of range?
Hello Jamie On 02 October 2000, at 08:26, you wrote JD Hello Charlie Turner (ceejay), JD On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:07:31 +0100 GMT your local time, JD which was Saturday, September 30, 2000, 08:07:31 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, That's one impressive macro you've set up their Jamie. JD Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: CTc That describes my experience exactly, I guess it's nothing to CTc bother about as it doesn't appear to have any lasting effect. I'd CTc like to learn why this happens - purely to satisfy my own CTc curiosity, I like to know *why* things happen. JD Grid index out of bounds is a Delphi/Pascal error message. I'm almost JD sure it's to do with calling a position in an array outside of the JD current bounds. However, if it really it an array the error message JD would be 'List Index out of bounds' (the same error message as for a JD list box being referenced greater than the listBox.Items.Count value). JD As it's a Grid Index out of bounds I'm assuming that the message list JD window is actually a grid (a la Excel) not as I first assumed a JD ListBox. JD As we can't see the source code (unless you'd like to be really nice JD to us Steffan) this is only a best guess. Thanks for your help Jamie, however I have to admit that Delphi/Pascal is going over my head. Basic, Markup, Flash etc. is more my bag ;) -- have a good day Charlie (ceejay) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: email services that work well w/ TB!
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:24:31 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Monday, October 02, 2000, 11:24:31 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: Hello TBUDL members, After 4 months off-line (traveling w/o a portable computer), I learned that all mail in 3 of my email accounts was lost when the service provider went out of business at the end of august. I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email services that work well w/ TB! (I do *not* need an ISP, just 3 mail accounts, but not necessarily with the same source). The important issues are reliability and permanence, speed, the storage space provided, an absence of ads, low or nil cost and of course, that work well with TB! (*not* web based). Thanks in advance. I had your private msg but answer bounced back try www.mymailbox.com www.usa.net and as you know we ourselves have mailservices.. , myrealbox is free and USA.NET charges $1 per month to receive mail via offline mail programs and that should be affordable Anyway, losing mail is a lot more damage then a few dollars for being sure to receive ones mail and insisting to use suppliers which cannot be trusted also means one has little reason to complain about a lousy service one expects... dependability isnt with the bat, its where you have them. Main reason my email account isnt in Thailand and if I was in Mexico my mail wouldnt be sitting in Mexico. essentially like here, they havent got a clue how to run an isp service and I donot want MY mail to be sitting anywhere where essentially ## are controlling what happens to my mail. An example is a local hotel which almost went out of business as isp messed up his website AND mail. Douglas Hinds Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: email services that work well w/ TB!
Hello TBUDL members, After 4 months off-line (traveling w/o a portable computer), I learned that all mail in 3 of my email accounts was lost when the service provider went out of business at the end of august. I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email services that work well w/ TB! (I do *not* need an ISP, just 3 mail accounts, but not necessarily with the same source). The important issues are reliability and permanence, speed, the storage space provided, an absence of ads, low or nil cost and of course, that work well with TB! (*not* web based). Thanks in advance. Douglas Hinds I can thoroughly recommend crosswinds. POP3, SMTP, unlimited space mail box and webspace. No ads, free. Been using it for some months with The Bat! and have no complaints. http://www.crosswinds.com Alinda mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goddess of MageVale Mush telnet: magevale.mudservices.com () Homepage: http://Alinda.homepage.com/ ___ Using The Bat! 1.46d under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II 400 with 128MB. ___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re email services that work well w/ TB!
Hello Douglas, Monday, October 02, 2000, 12:24:31 PM, you wrote: DH Hello TBUDL members, DH After 4 months off-line (traveling w/o a portable computer), I DH learned that all mail in 3 of my email accounts was lost when the DH service provider went out of business at the end of august. DH I would appreciate being recommended (on or off list) any email DH services that work well w/ TB! (I do *not* need an ISP, just 3 mail DH accounts, but not necessarily with the same source). The important DH issues are reliability and permanence, speed, the storage space DH provided, an absence of ads, low or nil cost and of course, that DH work well with TB! (*not* web based). Thanks in advance. Douglas, I strongly recommend privacyx.com. They have a free service which gives you a paltry 2 megabytes of box space. But they also have a premium service ($20/year) with ten megs of space and no ads. The service is the most reliable I've found. They deliver something like 99.7% of all mail within a few seconds. The best part is that they strip all header info. Your IP etc is replaced by theirs, from a security standpoint this is priceless. I have two accounts with them. This one is a 2 meg freebo. My main account is for business ( I use my real name with that one) and is the 10 meg premium. Since e-mail is the single most vital component of the Internet, I wouldn't recommend bottom-fishing for a provider. -- Best regards, ClueBusDrivermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: [link] opens active folder's template instead of general account template
Hello Karin Spaink, On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:20:18 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, October 02, 2000, 9:20:18 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Karin Spaink wrote: On 01-10-2000 at 00:44, JMReichow kindly wrote: ( Funny the same question came up on the German TB list during the discussion of the new MAPI.DLL; it seems the /default/ account (and its templates) are, logically, the ones invoked through MAPI from e.g. Forté Agent. Is there a new MAPI.dll? checks http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html Right. There is, albeit still in beta. Downloaded it, put it in TB's program directory and run thebat /InstallMAPI; set Agent to send mail using MAPI applications. However, no matter what I do - change Netscape's preferences, edit the liprefs.js file manually - Netscape Messenger insists on intercepting MAPI application calls. Any ideas? remove netscape.. Sorry, while I hate it as a product, I AM using IE and my system is a lot more stable... - K - Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.47 Beta/5 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: email services that work well w/ TB!
Hello Alinda On 02 October 2000, at 17:56, you wrote -snip- AH I can thoroughly recommend crosswinds. POP3, SMTP, unlimited space mail box and AH webspace. No ads, free. Been using it for some months with The Bat! and have no AH complaints. AH http://www.crosswinds.com Think you'll find that's www.crosswinds.net -- have a good day Charlie (ceejay) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hot Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes Jan, but probably not in the way you mean. I use Web2Pop, a program from www.jmasoftware.com which allows a wide range of web based e-mail to be downloaded through your normal e-mail program. It acts as a pop server on your own PC. Outgoing (smtp) mail is taken through your normal ISP. This does mean that you need to have an ISP account before you can use Web2Pop. I have found it work with AOL mail, Yahoo mail, and mail from Email.com. Graham *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 02/10/00 at 07:56 Jan Rifkinson wrote: Hello BatListers, Does anyone access a MSN Hotmail account thru TB!? If so, could you tell me what your settings are so I can compare them with mine? Thanks. Regards, Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys on keyserver Ldap://certserver.pgp.com Key ID 0x5273E2CD (RSA) Key ID 0x99DB10BD (DH/DSS) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Encrypted with PGP Plugin for Calypso Comment: PGP 6.5.8 for verification of sender and internet security iQA/AwUBOdju3C7i2PqZ2xC9EQKuywCgyBZ+UmJZQFx2t9V72dEi2cKvsIwAoKCP A0V6gHRzJYe7WgkqjocpTD0d =Pqfg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Hot Mail
Hi TBUDL In a post time stamped 01:29:02 +0700 re: Re: Hot Mail Angel wrote: TBUDL TB! wont be able to access Hotmail by itself no matter what TBUDL settings you plop in there, so it needs a little TBUDL help...therefore: I use Web2Pop, and it works wonderfully TBUDL with TB!. It's shareware but worth it. TBUDL http://www.jmasoftware.com [...] if you have any questions TBUDL with installing it I would be glad to help you, [...] Angel, thanks for the information you've provided your very kind offer to help w installation problems. I've come to the conclusion that between my current ISP mail serverYahoo! (which can also pull my other pop account if I'm on the road sans laptop), I've got enough. MSN doesn't bring anything extra to the table that makes it worth any trouble. But I'm glad to know there's some shareware available to make web to pop email transfers easier. Regards, Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: glyphs documentation request
This message: 02/10/2000 22:20 GMT. Hello A, A reminder of what A ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 02 October 2000 at 05:59:49 GMT -0500 ACM I should have read on before writing one of my earlier ACM messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified ACM any glyph files. It's a doddle. All I do is cut the ones I want out from the other applications and then paste them in the relevant place in the glyphs.bmp. I use Paint shop Pro and grab the images from the screen grab option. As for the transparency, it's just a matter of erasing the background of the pasted image and making it the same colour (Grey) of the original bmp. Perhaps I could create a step by step how-to if anyone is interested ?? -- _ Best regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony. Using The Bat! 1.46d S/N A27A5E65 Windows 98 ME 4.90 Build 3000 Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPkeyrequest -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Original message not quoted?
On 02/10/2000, at 22:57 Don't know if anyone can throw any light on why when I attempt to reply to one particular message the original message is not quoted. Unless that is I choose to display the RFC-822 headers for the original message!? I do have %QUOTES in the reply template. When replying to other messages in the some folder the original message *is* quoted, which confirms to me that I have no apparent problems with the template. In case it's relevant here's the header: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by mars.zenithtech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00885 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:45:36 GMT (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from oemcomputer (tnt-8-295.easynet.co.uk [195.40.205.39]) by latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54DFA53679 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:01:34 +0100 (BST) From: False [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Poco 2.1 (733) - EVALUATION VERSION Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:43:16 +0100 X-URL: http://www.pocomail.com/ X-Mark: 0 Subject: Thakz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: bP8!!D\^"!Hc(!!#/1!! [Names e-mail address's altered] Charlie Turner (ceejay) TB ver:1.46d | On Windows 98 4.10 1998 Pll 350Mhz (128MB Ram) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Creation Date in Preview Window
I've just noticed that for all messages I send, the creation date does not appear in the preview window at the top right. All messages I receive have the creation date showing, but all that I send do not. The creation date does show on the header of the message itself in the lower window, if I specify that it show, but it doesn't show in the preview window above. Is this the way it's supposed to be? It makes it impossible for me to list all my messages in a mailbox by date, since none of my messages has a date and so all get grouped together. Mike Greenbaum -- JANUS BOOKS, LTD. Post Office Box 40787 Tucson, AZ 85717 Phone: 520-881-8192; toll-free voice-mail: 800-986-1165 Fax: 815-333-2938 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover accepted. Member: IOBA (Independent Online Booksellers Association) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re Creation Date in Preview Window
Hello Michael, Monday, October 02, 2000, 6:30:06 PM, you wrote: MSG I've just noticed that for all messages I send, the creation date does MSG not appear in the preview window at the top right. All messages I receive have the MSG creation date showing, but all that I send do not. MSG The creation date does show on the header of the message itself in the lower window, MSG if I specify that it show, but it doesn't show in the preview window above. MSG Is this the way it's supposed to be? MSG It makes it impossible for me to list all my messages in a mailbox by date, since none of my MSG messages has a date and so all get grouped together. Mike, Just right click on either from, to, subject, or any column that's showing. A box will drop down allowing you to select various items, such as "created." -- Best regards, ClueBusDrivermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Creation Date in Preview Window
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, On 02 October 2000 at 15:30:06 GMT -0700 (which was 23:30 where I live) Michael S. Greenbaum wrote and made these points on the subject of "Creation Date in Preview Window": MSG Is this the way it's supposed to be? Messages with today's date show only the time. When midnight has passed then the date shows. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. TB! v1.46d S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOdkTcjnkJKuSnc2gEQLlAACgiVbjh0p0qjYGafrQPYo8CGivVY0AnjUD hAJ5VorWSOFHmG9nU6qCK3jQ =2FM5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Creation Date in Preview Window
I never knew that. Thanks. Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Messages with today's date show only the time. When midnight has passed then the date shows. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Grid index out of range?
Hi Charlie, On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:48:18 +0100GMT (03/10/2000, 01:48 +0800GMT), Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: JD Grid index out of bounds is a Delphi/Pascal error message. I'm almost CTc Thanks for your help Jamie, however I have to admit that Delphi/Pascal is CTc going over my head. Basic, Markup, Flash etc. is more my bag ;) It's the opposite here. But then, I'm also a user, and regardless of whether I can explain *why* the error occurs, I'm unhappy *that* the error occurs. It's a long-standing bug and I suggest the developers fix the old bugs before going on with any new functionality, as necessary as the new func may be. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: email services that work well w/ TB!
Hi tracer, On Tue, 3 Oct 2000 01:23:24 +0700GMT (03/10/2000, 02:23 +0800GMT), tracer wrote: t dependability isnt with the bat, its where you have them. t Main reason my email account isnt in Thailand and if I was in Mexico t my mail wouldnt be sitting in Mexico. Tracer, the first ISP in Thailand was Inet (Internet Thailand Co.,Ltd.), founded back in 1995. I have been with them ever since, and they have never lost any mail. t essentially like here, they havent got a clue how to run an isp t service and I donot want MY mail to be sitting anywhere where t essentially ## are controlling what happens to my mail. The chief-of-techs is Craig, an American. And, while Inet never lost any mail of mine, GMX did manage to do that once. And GMX is in Germany. t An example is a local hotel which almost went out of business as isp t messed up his website AND mail. While I can't understand that a hotel makes itself dependant on web sites and email, I don't doubt that ISP's mess up things. Please do not say "all are bad" just because they are based in one country, or "all are good" as long as they are based in another country. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: [link] opens active folder's template instead of general account template
Hi tracer, On Tue, 3 Oct 2000 01:37:05 +0700GMT (03/10/2000, 02:37 +0800GMT), tracer wrote: However, no matter what I do - change Netscape's preferences, edit the liprefs.js file manually - Netscape Messenger insists on intercepting MAPI application calls. Any ideas? t remove netscape.. No need. Works here with Netscape. Karin, somehwere in the FAQ's it says something about Netscape and that you need to install nsproto to make NS work with TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: [link] opens active folder's template instead of general account template
Hello Thomas, On Monday, October 02, 2000 at 11:14:38 GMT +0800 (which was 8:14 PM where I live) witnesses say Thomas Fernandez typed: No need. Works here with Netscape. Karin, somehwere in the FAQ's it says something about Netscape and that you need to install nsproto to make NS work with TB. The FAQ is for the MailTo: links, not MAPI. Karin is asking about MAPI. Does NSPronto allow the MAPI interface to work as well? Please reply on TBBETA since this really is a beta issue. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Stupid Installation Mistake
When I originally installed TB, I installed it to C:\THE BAT! However, when I tried to open the readme.txt file, WordPad could not open it saying that it couldn't find the directory C:\THE I figured that the problem was the space between THE and BAT!, so I renamed the file TheBat! I was then able to open the readme.txt file with no problem. In the same session, I received mail and sent mail, created a few mailboxes, and tried to work with the program. However, the next time I opened TB, I found that all my mail had disappeared (there wasn't that much of it so it was no catastrophe). I checked in Windows Explorer and found that I now had two different directories C:\THE BAT! and C:\TheBat! I moved all the files from THE BAT to TheBat, recreated the shortcut on the desktop, deleted THE BAT, opened TheBat, and everything seemed fine. My mail was back as were the Quick Templates I'd created. But when I checked back at Windows Explorer, there were two directories THE BAT and TheBat. I deleted THE BAT once more, opened TheBat, closed it, and checked Windows Explorer. There were two directories: THE BAT and TheBat. Even though I delete THE BAT, it is recreated when I open TheBat. So I decided to reinstall the program, being sure to install it to TheBat. Everything seemed to go all right, but THE BAT is back! And I can't get rid of it. It is still recreated each time I open TheBat. I realize my initial error was in changing the name of the directory at the beginning, but I'd like to get rid of THE BAT permanently. Any suggestions? Thanks again. Mike -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Stupid Installation Mistake
Hello Michael, On Monday, October 02, 2000 at 21:47:51 GMT -0700 (which was 9:47 PM where I live) witnesses say Michael S. Greenbaum typed: I realize my initial error was in changing the name of the directory at the beginning, but I'd like to get rid of THE BAT permanently. Any suggestions? It sounds like TB is trying to recreate your mail folder for at least one account in "The Bat!". Look in the registry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! Look for all references to "The Bat!" and change them to "TheBat!" -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Stupid Installation Mistake
Hello Michael, On Monday, October 02, 2000 at 21:47:51 GMT -0700 (which was 9:47 PM where I live) witnesses say Michael S. Greenbaum typed: I realize my initial error was in changing the name of the directory at the beginning, but I'd like to get rid of THE BAT permanently. Any suggestions? I forgot to mention in my other message, remember, back up your registry before making any changes. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Stupid Installation Mistake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael and everyone else... What a mess! snip MSG In the same session, I received mail and sent mail, created a few MSG mailboxes, and tried to work with the program. Really? Everything worked fine? When I rename my TB folder while it is running, Bat can no longer access any mail folders, so it recreates the TB disk folder structure under the original names with zero messages in each accessed folder. Hmm. snip MSG So I decided to reinstall the program, being sure to install it to MSG TheBat. Everything seemed to go all right, but THE BAT is back! And MSG I can't get rid of it. It is still recreated each time I open TheBat. Did you copy your TB files to your newly reinstalled TB? If so, TB's account config file(s) still expect to find their messages in "The Bat!" folder. I would suggest this: Check each of the folders' properties and manually change the directories where TB should look for messages for these folders. Only when all references to "The Bat!" in TB's configuration (all account information and possibly some registry entries) have been changed to "TheBat!" will TB stop looking for anything in "The Bat!" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Encryption. It's what's for dinner. iQA/AwUBOdlxga2yGRAwhL7EEQK3pwCfSa0Eqy4Z/Sn6LX5YCClTBuZlZfIAoM7/ 9TMCTGCvSi/m540WHmvrDEtM =c9Qf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jason Thompson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x3084BEC4 [The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5] --- Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be. //The Bat! v1.47 Beta/5 //Win98 v4.10 build 1998 //AMD K6-2 400mhz 128mb -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
