Re: SmartBat new features?

2002-12-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jim! On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 12:32:13 AM you wrote: Are there any attempts at documenting this feature (besides the FAQ which has some brief mentions of it)??? And when this new design will do what I think it will - namely incorporating various editors into TB via SmartBat

Resizeable Quick Templates Window.

2002-12-14 Thread Mark R Harding
Hi TBUDL, I have a minor enhancement request which I want to announce here to see if it is something that other TB! users would find useful or if I'm living in my own little world again. :) I have always found the Quick Templates window (SHIFT-CTRL-Q) to be a bit too small for my liking. It's a

Re: SmartBat new features?

2002-12-14 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Dierk, On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 10:08:04 AM you [DH] wrote (at least in part): Are there any attempts at documenting this feature (besides the FAQ which has some brief mentions of it)??? DH And when this new design will do what I think it will - namely DH incorporating

Re: SmartBat new features?

2002-12-14 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Peter! On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 11:28:39 AM you wrote: I guess it's not for integrating different editors, but more for being able to switch between Editor and e.g. Calendar and whatever should come with PIM functionality which is announced. Then I want at least the editor of

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, Saturday, December 14, 2002, 2:43:25 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): MR If I choose Internal Implementation, your S/MIME signatures verify as MR valid. If, however, I choose the Microsoft CryptoAPI implementation MR of S/MIME, your

Re[2]: Making PGP work

2002-12-14 Thread Clive G. Scott
Dear Melissa, Friday, December 13, 2002, 7:29:54 PM, you wrote: MR With PGP, all you need to do is highlight only the key block that is MR within the clear signed message, click Ctrl+C, then go to PGPtray, MR and choose Clipboard/Decrypt Verify. You are right that I was working on your public

Re: Resizeable Quick Templates Window.

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark R Harding [MRH] wrote:' MRH All I'd like to do is to be able to resize the master window to MRH a size of my liking. I can do this with the connection centre MRH window and with the message despatcher window so really I MRH imagine it's probably

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Costas, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:17:03 +0200 your time, you said: MR If I choose Internal Implementation, your S/MIME signatures verify as MR valid. If, however, I choose the Microsoft CryptoAPI implementation MR of S/MIME, your very same

Re: Making PGP work

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Clive, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:37:58 -0500 your time, you said: CGS If I do this I get to the point where the PGP log window pops up and CGS that is where the process stops. I am not sure why. Simon asks what CGS version of PGP I have

Re: multi user, only one allowed

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:14:29 -0500 GMT (14/12/02, 08:14 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: KJD But...i do not want both users to be able to edit/reply etc. KJD the same mail, because this way, one incoming mail can be KJD answered twice, both the users do not see that they both are

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mike, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:26:58 + GMT (14/12/02, 10:26 +0700 GMT), Mike Alexander wrote: Outpost lets you set up permissions for each separate program, So does Sygate. I was surprised when I noticed that if you allow an application to use one port, by default all ports are

Re:SmartBat new features?

2002-12-14 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Peter, At 5:28 AM on Saturday, December 14, 2002 you [PP] wrote the following about 'SmartBat new features?': PP [...] I guess it's not for integrating PP different editors, but more for being PP able to switch between Editor and e.g. PP Calendar and whatever should come with PP PIM

Backing up folders

2002-12-14 Thread Lawrence Johnson
Can someone give me some advice about backing up folders. I've tried going thru the Tools-Backup but I aborted out of it since it looks like it is going to backup everything. I just want to archive a few folders containing old messages I might not need to reference and in this way free up some

Re: Backing up folders

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Lawrence, On Saturday, 14. December 2002 at 10:05:59 [GMT -0600] you wrote: Can someone give me some advice about backing up folders. Use the Freeware program Backup TheBat. You can safe/backup folders, particular emails and so on. Later you can also import that backups again with TB:

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 2:06:04 PM, Simon Blake wrote: In many respects S/MIME has an advantage, even if I much personally prefer PGP. One considerable disadvantage is the size overhead of S/MIME messages - the signing process seems to add 6k onto the message size, and whilst this

Re[4]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, VBG At first the only thing that irritated me was the fact that VBG unlike ZAP, Kerio asked permission for everything... For VBG example, just launching my browser can easily launch open VBG 20+ confirmation boxes and launching my

Re[2]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Thomas, Saturday, December 14, 2002, 2:56:43 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Mike, TF On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:26:58 + GMT (14/12/02, 10:26 +0700 GMT), TF Mike Alexander wrote: Outpost lets you set up permissions for each separate program, TF So does Sygate. I was surprised when I noticed

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Julian, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:39:03 + your time, you said: JBL One considerable disadvantage is the size overhead of S/MIME messages I would disagree entirely. JBL the signing process seems to add 6k onto the message size, Not when I

Re: multi user, only one allowed

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:' TF But a message that has been replied to will have this little TF arrow on the envelope. The next user accessing the mail base TF should see it. Yes, but this doesn't prevent him/her from composing another answer. Also,

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:' TF Why Victor gets 30 message for one application, I don't know. I TF only got one or two per app (for example, with TB, the pop port TF and the smtp port at remote server, which I allowed), save them, TF and that's it. I

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Victor Gonzalez [VG] wrote:' VG Kerio is definitely hot! I thank you all for your input but VG since Kerio's installation, shes proven easy maintenance :) I VG did manage to stop the repetitive confirmations and the only VG problem to it was the

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 8:02:38 PM, Simon Blake wrote: Oh, I see, so personal identity is inconsequential? cough Okay! And you consider that TBUDL moderators should decide that PGP should be allowed and S/MIME not? Umm, that's very interesting indeed :) ...although that would be

Re[2]: multi user, only one allowed

2002-12-14 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, TF But a message that has been replied to will have this little TF arrow on the envelope. The next user accessing the mail base TF should see it. ACM Yes, but this doesn't prevent him/her from composing another answer. IMO, Why not

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon [S] wrote:' S A 629 byte email signed with my S/MIME certificate weighs in at S 3,634 bytes. That's only a difference of about 3k, and not the 6k S you claim to start. The size difference depends on the key size doesn't it? The difference in

Re: multi user, only one allowed

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Victor Gonzalez [VG] wrote:' VG IMO, Why not then put your foot down and lay down the rules? VG Not to be smart but if more than one person is to reply to VG an e-mail you must be running something that is outside of a VG personal base. Yes. This is

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Allie, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:10:38 -0500 your time, you said: ACM This is not the case with S/MIME. Can you suppress sending your public ACM key block repeatedly and with every message you send using S/MIME? In ACM fact, this is my main

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 10:16:51 PM, Simon Blake wrote: ACM This is not the case with S/MIME. Can you suppress sending your public ACM key block repeatedly and with every message you send using S/MIME? In ACM fact, this is my main problem with using it. That's not the point here

Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-14 Thread M. Evans
TBUDL, 1. This question may be obvious, but I've used Bat! for a long time, and can't remember (or find out) how to do it. After incoming mail is filtered it is moved. Let's say from Inbox to MyTopicFolder. Now I reply to a message in MyTopicFolder. The reply should be stored in

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Julian, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:36:28 + your time, you said: JBL On Saturday, December 14, 2002, 10:16:51 PM, Simon Blake wrote: ACM This is not the case with S/MIME. Can you suppress sending your ACM public key block repeatedly

Re: SmartBat new features?

2002-12-14 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Dierk, On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 12:47:01 PM you [DH] wrote (at least in part): I guess it's not for integrating different editors, but more for being able to switch between Editor and e.g. Calendar and whatever should come with PIM functionality which is announced. DH Then I

Re: SmartBat new features?

2002-12-14 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Jan, On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 1:56:37 PM you [JR] wrote (at least in part): PP [...] I guess it's not for integrating PP different editors, but more for being PP able to switch between Editor and e.g. PP Calendar and whatever should come with PP PIM functionality which is

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon [S] wrote:' S That's not the point here at all really, although it is a valid S point of course. So are you suggesting that The Bat! should not S support S/MIME? And are you suggesting or leading up

Re: Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo M., On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:45:55 -0700GMT (14-12-02, 23:45 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: ME The reply should be stored in MyTopicFolder, not in Sent Mail. How ME do I do that (for the entire account, not just one folder)? You can't do that, unless you write a filter for each folder

Re: Backing up folders

2002-12-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lawrence, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:05:59 -0600GMT (14-12-02, 17:05 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: LJ Is it safe to backup the corresponding Windows folders Yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:

Re[2]: Resizeable Quick Templates Window.

2002-12-14 Thread Mark R Harding
Hi Allie, Regarding your message dated: 14 December 2002... ACM Make a feature request. ACM Go via the TBUDL info URL in the list footer of all messages from ACM this list. Thanks for the info. I've done as suggested and the feature request is logged as item number 0001125 on the bug/feature

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Allie, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 19:27:50 -0500 your time, you said: S That's not the point here at all really, although it is a valid point of S course. So are you suggesting that The Bat! should not support S/MIME? S And are you suggesting or

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Simon, @14-Dec-2002, 22:16 Simon Blake said: ACM This is not the case with S/MIME. Can you suppress sending ACM your public key block repeatedly and with every message you ACM send using S/MIME? In fact, this is my main problem with using ACM it. Not yet with TB, although it is within the

Re: Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello M., On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:45:55 -0700 GMT (15/12/02, 05:45 +0700 GMT), M. Evans wrote: The reply should be stored in MyTopicFolder, not in Sent Mail. How do I do that (for the entire account, not just one folder)? You need to write a filter for each folder. :-( I hope to avoid

question one

2002-12-14 Thread Tony Evans
Hello TBUDL, I am a Pegasus mail user and have been for some time but find that the programme is a little hamstrung by the fact that the Auther loves his programme (God bless his soul) and refuses to release the code so others can help him work on it (well in a nutshell that is) and he

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mike, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:54:18 + GMT (15/12/02, 01:54 +0700 GMT), Mike Alexander wrote: TF Why Victor gets 30 message for one application, I don't know. I only TF got one or two per app (for example, with TB, the pop port and the TF smtp port at remote server, which I allowed),

S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm)

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Simon, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:00:05 + GMT (15/12/02, 07:00 +0700 GMT), Simon Blake wrote: ACM This is not the case with S/MIME. Can you suppress sending your ACM public key block repeatedly and with every message you send using ACM S/MIME? In fact, this is my main problem

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:13:02 -0500 GMT (15/12/02, 03:13 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: I haven't used the later versions but I suspect that the method you're using to configure is a less secure method, in that Kerio no longer asks for specific port/IP connection permissions.

question 2

2002-12-14 Thread Tony Evans
Hello TBUDL, I know lots of questions, sorry :-( I am running SpamPal to kill all these bl**dy spam messages I get hammered with. In Pegasus when the email is directed to the folder I have designated I don't get the flapping horse wings telling me I have new mail as it is no longer in

Re: multi user, only one allowed

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:04:02 -0500 GMT (15/12/02, 03:04 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: TF But a message that has been replied to will have this little TF arrow on the envelope. The next user accessing the mail base TF should see it. Yes, but this doesn't prevent him/her from

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:09:10 -0500 GMT (15/12/02, 03:09 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: TF Why Victor gets 30 message for one application, I don't know. I TF only got one or two per app (for example, with TB, the pop port TF and the smtp port at remote server, which I allowed),

Re: question one

2002-12-14 Thread Daniel Hirning
In reply to Tony's message 'question one' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:36:05 +1100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tony, TE Pegasus is now up to V4 and I notice that when I try to get the TE Bat to covert messages it must be looking for V3 type files as it TE just spits the dummy and tells me

Re: question 2

2002-12-14 Thread Daniel Hirning
In reply to Tony's message 'question 2' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:39:16 +1100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tony, TE I don't get the flapping horse wings telling me I have new mail as TE it is no longer in the inbox, however with the bat, I have to read TE the spam before TB stops flapping, is

Re: question 2

2002-12-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tony, @15-Dec-2002, 12:39 +1100 (01:39 UK time) Tony Evans [TE] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: TE ... I have to read the spam before TB stops flapping, is there TE a workaround for this please? You can have the filter mark

Re[2]: question one

2002-12-14 Thread Tony Evans
Hello Daniel, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 12:41:42 PM, you wrote: DH In reply to Tony's message 'question one' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:36:05 DH +1100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DH I have always found the easiest way to convert between mail programs DH is to set up your own IMAP mail

Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)

2002-12-14 Thread Simon Blake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Thomas, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 08:15:01 +0700 your time, you said: snip I bow out of this thread. Sorry, Thomas, but if you want to email me offlist with your personal remarks then that's fine. I'll defend myself in private. - -- Slán, Simon @

Re[2]: question 2

2002-12-14 Thread Tony Evans
Hello Daniel, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 12:44:52 PM, you wrote: DH In reply to Tony's message 'question 2' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:39:16 DH +1100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DH Tony, TE I don't get the flapping horse wings telling me I have new mail as TE it is no longer in the inbox,

Re: Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello M., On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:45:55 -0700 GMT (15/12/02, 05:45 +0700 GMT), M. Evans wrote: The reply should be stored in MyTopicFolder, not in Sent Mail. How do I do that (for the entire account, not just one folder)? [...] If I compose and send a new message (not a reply to anything),

Re[2]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Thomas, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 1:17:25 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Mike, TF On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:54:18 + GMT (15/12/02, 01:54 +0700 GMT), TF Mike Alexander wrote: TF Why Victor gets 30 message for one application, I don't know. I only TF got one or two per app (for example, with

Re[3]: question one

2002-12-14 Thread Daniel Hirning
In reply to Tony's message 'question one' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:47:10 +1100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tony, TE I'm sure you give me way to much credit :-) If this is a simple TE thing to do I'm happy to give it a go It's not hard, but it might be a little confusing. The idea is to setup

Re[4]: question one

2002-12-14 Thread Tony Evans
Hello Daniel, Sunday, December 15, 2002, 1:06:52 PM, you wrote: DH In reply to Tony's message 'question one' on Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:47:10 DH +1100 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DH Tony, TE I'm sure you give me way to much credit :-) If this is a simple TE thing to do I'm happy to give it a go

Re: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm

2002-12-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mike, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 02:03:21 + GMT (15/12/02, 09:03 +0700 GMT), Mike Alexander wrote: ;-) With Outpost, any settings you make are automatically saved. TF Well, I wouldn't like this. g Well, yes, Out[post gives you that choice too, So let's say they are equal top shall we?

Re: Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-14 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello M., Saturday, December 14, 2002, 11:45:55 PM, you asked: ME After incoming mail is filtered it is moved. Let's say from Inbox to ME MyTopicFolder. Now I reply to a message in MyTopicFolder. ME The reply should be stored in MyTopicFolder, not in Sent Mail. How ME do I do that (for the

Re: S/MIME on ML's (was: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused byZoneAlarm)

2002-12-14 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Simon, On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 at 01:49:05[GMT +](which was 01:49 where I live) you wrote: SB I bow out of this thread. Sorry, Thomas, but if you want to email me offlist SB with your personal remarks then that's fine. I'll defend myself in private. After Thomas's excellent mail I