Re: The Bat! - suggestions - improved search option
Greg- Thursday, August 21, 2003, 8:05:44 PM, you wrote: GS By 'escape' do you mean match the literal character? Yep. Thanks. I forgot about the Advanced tab. That should do the trick. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reading confirmation
Hello all, Is there any way to initiate a read confirmation when none is asked for by the sender (short of a reply/macro confirmation message which involves several keystrokes)? -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sobig.f filtering
On Friday, August 22, 2003, 1:36 AM, you wrote: ttcu May be easier to scan for ttcu X-MailScanner: Found to be clean ttcu Which the virus puts into every email it sends. then you would also filter out every message from J. Angliss ;) his mail program adds that line, I already checked for that SUBJECT text in all my mails, and his emails had it in every email... -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sobig.f filtering
on Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:47:02 -0400 Paul Cartwright wrote: ttcu May be easier to scan for ttcu X-MailScanner: Found to be clean ttcu Which the virus puts into every email it sends. PC then you would also filter out every message from J. Angliss ;) his mail PC program adds that line, I already checked for that SUBJECT text in all PC my mails, and his emails had it in every email... See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on this list. I used it in the inbox, oversaw the Selective Downloads section. I was wondering that I got no more Sobig mail and turned out the Delete on server - but until now I haven't got a single one yet. Probably GMX or some mail server administrator on my way has put a good filter up. Cause there are also no more mailbox full or you have a virus bounces.. -- shinE! Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: TB and Opera/Crazy Browser
Hi John Thursday, August 21, 2003, 11:09:12 PM, you wrote: JB I'm sure I would prefer Opera 7 if my touchpad would work with it. Ah I see. definitely extenuating circumstances :) Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rogue emails on this TBUDL
Dear Bats For rome reason email messages from Jonathan Angliss Kill the bat stone cold on downloading (requiring a rest). Deleted from server, and then the next from Jonathan does the same. Any idea why?? - I can't get one of his emails to see if the headers are strange or anything. Mark Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Any idea why?? - I can't get one of his emails to see if the M headers are strange or anything. All OK here. Here's the headers from one of his messages received today... ,- [ ] | Received: from ngfire.ngcomms.ecs.uk ([10.10.100.1]) by mercury.estatecomputers.co.uk with Microsoft | SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); | Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:31:36 +0100 | Received: from mail pickup service by ngfire.ngcomms.ecs.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC; | Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:31:47 +0100 | Received: from draenor.its-toasted.org ([127.0.0.1]) by ngfire.ngcomms.ecs.uk with Microsoft | SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); | Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:31:45 +0100 | Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=draenor.its-toasted.org) | by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) | id 19q2f9-0005PX-00; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:32:31 +0200 | Received: from netdork.net ([66.137.233.211] helo=vampire.netdork.net) | by draenor.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) | id 19q2et-0005M9-00 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:32:15 +0200 | Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) | by vampire.netdork.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEF6A816A | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:32:12 -0500 (CDT) | Received: from vampire.netdork.net ([127.0.0.1]) | by localhost (vampire.netdork.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) | with ESMTP id 08362-07 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; | Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:32:10 -0500 (CDT) | Received: from valcor.corp.local (c-67-166-207-248.client.comcast.net | [67.166.207.248]) | by vampire.netdork.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FE5A8169 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:32:10 -0500 (CDT) | Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:34:32 -0500 | From: Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.0 Beta/3) | Organization: Netdork Inc | X-Priority: 3 (Normal) | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Nick OHare [EMAIL PROTECTED] | In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netdork.net | Subject: Re: Sobig.f filtering | X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 | Precedence: list | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Id: tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com | List-Unsubscribe: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | List-Subscribe: http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2003 03:31:45.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[E963E0B0:01C3685D] `- - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... As I said before, I never repeat myself. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP0YH19ttnLhkydF1EQLJ0gCgt8WVYm1I6xblKWj3LYZ4rQqHT7EAoMxt iDSWe9XJdJQ5m6YkOAb15sPI =C+MM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.com The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: note: Re(2); Scan on attachment name?
on Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:37:03 -0500 Jonathan Angliss wrote: How come your message didn't thread? I looked at the source and couldn't find a References header. I know TB generates it. Been playing? JA Notice there is a Resent-From header? It looks like he'd sent it, JA but for some reason it'd failed... he then resent it using the JA redirect option. Which unfortunately still strips the reference JA headers iirc. Almost. I directly used the Redirect option, to be able to use my note:-QT. Didn't know that it strips the reference headers. -- shinE! Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @22-Aug-2003, 12:51 Mark [M] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: M For rome reason email messages from Jonathan Angliss Kill the bat M stone cold on downloading (requiring a rest). Deleted from M server, and then the next from Jonathan does the same. M Any idea why?? - I can't get one of his emails to see if the M headers are strange or anything. This was mentioned earlier. His mails carry the 'SOBIG' marker of X-MailScanner: Found to be clean. If you are filtering on that, add a Sender: Angliss ... No filter. If you have a live mail scanner, then you'd be better off using a TB friendly AV program with a plug-in to let TB scan the mails rather than have the IP data stream suddenly vanish mid-mail. The AV you're using sounds like it could be a bit overzealous. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0YTEjnkJKuSnc2gEQK5VQCgxdIP8J7njRojOJMegYxza/p1nzcAoIq1 wSP/0Y6aGn/jUq06Inox/+Wy =dD4k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Linebreaks on Yahoo
I have a vague feeling this has been mentioned before but can't find the answer: My messages to a Yahoo list suddenly have doublespacing (extra blank lines) when read on the list digest. They look fine in The Bat. This started to happen after a reinstall and restore. Maybe there's a crucial setting that's changed, because I didn't have that problem before. Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TBMAPI.DLL
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF Just a guess. It is called TBMapi.dll over here. Maybe it's TF case-sensitive. Thomas, Thanks. It's that way here, too, though. I don't know why I capitalized it in my post. -- JN Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: defragmenting messages.tbb
Hello Peter, Thursday, August 21, 2003, 3:53:40 PM, you wrote: PM Hi Abe, PM on Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:24:45 -0400GMT (21.08.03, 19:24 +0200GMT here), PM you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AZ Windows is unable to defragment the files messages.tbb (there are AZ two with this name), both of which are quite large. Is there some AZ kind of maintenance I should/could be doing from within TheBat! that AZ would resolve this? Many thanks for any suggestions. PM Zes. Zou should use the Folder menu and select @Compress all folders@ PM I apologiye for mz spelling, it|s the beta I use / it sometimes confuses PM mz kezboard lazout... noone knows whz, zet... }S} Many thanks! This did the trick. -- Best regards, Abemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version2 beta
I saw a reference to version 2 beta whilst trawling through the web. Does such a thing exist? -- Regards, David David Andersonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version2 beta
On Friday, August 22, 2003, David Anderson wrote... I saw a reference to version 2 beta whilst trawling through the web. Does such a thing exist? Yes it does... But you should be on the beta list to play with it, and you require a new registration key specially for version 2 if using v2 b2 or higher. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) In Stereo where available. .elbaliava erehw oeretS nI Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL
On Friday, August 22, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... This was mentioned earlier. His mails carry the 'SOBIG' marker of X-MailScanner: Found to be clean. If you are filtering on that, add a Sender: Angliss ... No filter. It shouldn't be any more... I changed mail server and the new mail scanner uses a different header. If it's still picking up that one, then I've probably messed up a setting somewhere. However, if a filter on X-Mailscanner can kill TB dead, might that be considered a big bug? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Remember, to a computer 1 + 1 = 10. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version2 beta
Hi David, on Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:29:12 +0100GMT (22.08.03, 16:29 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DA I saw a reference to version 2 beta whilst trawling through the web. DA Does such a thing exist? Yes. It is currently being tested. Actual beta is no.3. -- Cheers Peter Close your eyes and press ESCAPE three times. Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sobig.f filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tb, Thursday, August 21, 2003, 11:36:10 PM, you wrote: ttcu Which the virus puts into every email it sends. ttcu Thanks ttcu Michael. Lot's of double trouting this week. :-( moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out tb. Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. Thank you. /moderator moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out tb. Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimeter in your templates. Thank you. /moderator - -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQE/RkQLCXAZd2wKsWsRAnd6AJ9dn3RdU4NJ5bQKp9MZpcT3EYmAjgCeN6Bp ShWaKJMLocZAtSc+0gLEx3o= =mUzK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
John- Look under Filter Actions | Create Reading Confirmation (forced). -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version2 beta
Hello Jonathan, How does one go about getting on the beta list? I have heard nothing from RITLABS about any release since I bought the program a couple of years ago -- Regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Friday, August 22, 2003, 4:01:19 PM, you wrote: JA On Friday, August 22, 2003, David Anderson wrote... I saw a reference to version 2 beta whilst trawling through the web. Does such a thing exist? JA Yes it does... But you should be on the beta list to play with it, and JA you require a new registration key specially for version 2 if using v2 JA b2 or higher. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Version2 beta
Quoting David Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How does one go about getting on the beta list? I have heard nothing from RITLABS about any release since I bought the program a couple of years ago Other than employing a secret handshake or quiet prayers to the diety of choice, use the following address: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Dennis -- Dennis Hays http://www.haysdesign.com +1 518.331.3232 - Mail sent from: 198.22.236.230 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version2 beta
Hello David! On Friday, August 22, 2003, 12:06 PM, you wrote: D How does one go about getting on the beta list? I have heard nothing D from RITLABS about any release since I bought the program a couple of D years ago Go to http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Scroll down to the very bottom of the page, where it says, Other Useful Links. Click on: Subscribe to TBBETA. I'm not subscribed myself, but found this the other day when looking for something else. :) It constructs a subscribe e-mail for you to send. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue emails on this TBUDL
On Friday, August 22, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... This was mentioned earlier. His mails carry the 'SOBIG' marker of X-MailScanner: Found to be clean. If you are filtering on that, add a Sender: Angliss ... No filter. Just because I'm nice, and don't want to kill anybody, nor get false positives from silly admins... I've updated my server, it now reports a different string when sending mail through my old work server. My own mail server reports a completely different string anyway, so I've not updated that one. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ensign Walnut approaches Dr. Crusher with caution Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sobig.f filtering
Hello Leif Thank you for your email dated Friday, August 22, 2003, 5:25:38 PM, in which you wrote: LG Lot's of double trouting this week. :-( What's the bag limit? -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
Günter, Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:39:16 AM, you wrote:== I have a vague feeling this has been mentioned before but can't find the answer: My messages to a Yahoo list suddenly have doublespacing (extra blank lines) when read on the list digest. They look fine in The Bat. This started to happen after a reinstall and restore. Maybe there's a crucial setting that's changed, because I didn't have that problem before. Regards, Günter Confirmed! b1 and b2 didn't do this, but b3 does. Steve . . . Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linebreaks on Yahoo
22-Aug-2003 16:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Confirmed! b1 and b2 didn't do this, but b3 does. Now, the only problem that remains is that Günter is using 1.62r... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) You're caught in a labyrinth of choice and possibility in the world today, so you have more opportunity to express your desire, fulfill your desire, sin if you like. The thin line between paradise and The Devil's Circus, the agony and the ecstasy. (Youth) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
blah!
I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times. Oddly, the support personnel I have always been in contact with suck. They told me to turn off folder compression, so I did, and it had no effect, but damn I considered it a strange reply. Anyway, the problem is that mail stops being received. Hilariously, I see this EXACT problem as the reason some people have expressed they did not evaluate The Bat! for very long. Even more hilariously, they also mention the other main problem I have, keyboard shortcuts not being saved. Explaining to support that keyboard shortcut edits are not being saved turned out to be beyond futile, presumably because of a language barrier. You edit them, you click ok, you go back, they are not what you just changed them to. I must have explained this in over a dozen ways. So, my problems are 1) Mail stops being retrieved. In the old days before I bitched about this a ton, we didn't get the Some Tasks are still Active, quit when they are done message, we just didn't get anything and killed the process. They obviously know what the hell is going on because they added that dialog. My best guess, since they seem incapable of coming up with one, is that the retrieval thread is being `de-synched` when a server is slow, for whatever reason, perhaps it is slow enough that the timeout has elapsed AFTER a new retrieval is supposed to begin. IE, a timeout occurs 90 seconds after an attempt, but the retrievals are supposed to occur every 60 seconds. 2) keyboard shortcuts are not being saved, wah! These problems have existed in many versions, I won't accept being told simply to upgrade, and I could care less if others have not experienced them. I have never reported any bug or slew of bugs without being told vehemently that others have not experienced them. I am angry because I have spent... maybe 40-100 hours on all of these problems and some related ones in my history with The Bat!, it reminds me of a bad open source application in this regard. High TCO. I am evaluating Becky, but it misses just BARELY in some esoteric, but very important features I am afraid. Perhaps the plugin system can overcome that. I also wonder how well designed the plugin system for TB is. After all, you can damn near say every Windows application has a plugin system by way of catching Win32 messages and the like. Winamp's plugin system is an example of this farce, I wonder if Becky or The Bat's are. -Tomi Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sobig.f filtering
Hello William, Friday, August 22, 2003, 12:49:21 PM, you wrote: WM What's the bag limit? Most people are comatose at four troutings from the sheer repugnancy of smell. ;-) -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 2:53:42 PM, you wrote: I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times. Oddly, the support personnel I have always been in contact with suck. One more thing, killing the process makes my life even more hellish because I lose folders quite often and have to use that magic lost folders repair shortcut, I'm not even sure if it exists in the menus. I wish I could just lop off parts of TB I don't use. They get in the way and make me think they are the cause of some problems in other places. -Tomi Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version2 beta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, @22-Aug-2003, 18:06 David Anderson [DA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan: DA How does one go about getting on the beta list? I have heard DA nothing from RITLABS about any release since I bought the DA program a couple of years ago You can subscribe to the discussion list here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for details (and download locations) of the current beta version on http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com. Sniff around on the Beta FTP site for the latest version here: ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0Z4gTnkJKuSnc2gEQJ+zQCeKoO4nS7GwGk3BVCG20qOEOhsuKwAn25N o5TFVErAo8Cv4LWzpu2Jgjpi =PIfP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copying all filters from one account to another?
Myotis Mates, Is there a faster/easier way to copy filters from one account in my Bat to another other than copy/paste each individual filter at a time? Thanks for your help! -- Best regards, Jim D JD -at- CastleGK -dot- com [Using The Bat! 1.62r on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Build 2600] --- Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool. --- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
Hello Tomi, Friday, August 22, 2003, 2:53:42 PM, you wrote: icn I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in icn most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times. Oddly, the icn support personnel I have always been in contact with suck. I used to have that problem occasionally. It seemed to be a problem with one particular email on the server. I would note where the DL stopped and then go out and delete the offending email and then things would work fine. Since I started using the beta version for 1.63 I have not had this particular problem manifest and it has been quite some time now. So you might want to give this a try. Can't address your shortcut issue, though. Sorry. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying all filters from one account to another?
On Friday, August 22, 2003, 4:26:27 PM, Jim D wrote: JD Is there a faster/easier way to copy filters from one account in my JD Bat to another other than copy/paste each individual filter at a JD time? Open the sorting office for the account which currently holds all the filters. Copy each of them individually into a Notepad document or similar. Now open the sorting office for the account where you want your filters to be, highlight the entire document in Notepad paste it into the filters. HTH -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Io219, @22-Aug-2003, 14:59 -0500 (20:59 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times... Do you use ZoneAlarm? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0aAfDnkJKuSnc2gEQIDNgCg2ob3OGaQxidjXcLa6d/TV6Jv8jEAoMLF cg2HmdF37OO/skREMColBuL8 =xnJ8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 3:43:38 PM, you wrote: @22-Aug-2003, 14:59 -0500 (20:59 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ^- bored? I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times... Do you use ZoneAlarm? No. Straight to the mail servers. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Circumstances require me to be away from my primary pc for a number of weeks. Mail is backing up on the server and will soon exceed the 10 MB limit. My laptop, which I am currently using does not have The Bat loaded on to it.I would like to install The Bat on to the laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pc with The Bat, when I return. Is this possible? If so, how do I do this? In order to install The Bat on to my laptop, do I need a second license? If so, how can I determine if I didn't purchase one at the time that I originally purchased The Bat? Unfortunately, I do not have access to my purchase information.If it makes any difference, I also have a highly complex directory structure on the home pc, that I could not possibly recreate from memory. For the time that I am away, can I create a structure on the laptop, but when I load all of the laptop e-mail to the home pc, can I have the home pc refilter everything that is on the laptop into the correct folders. -- Avi Avram Sacks using (on my home pc) The Bat ver. 1.63h (I think); P4 XP pro. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Io219, @22-Aug-2003, 15:55 -0500 (21:55 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: @22-Aug-2003, 14:59 -0500 (20:59 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I ^- bored? No, just courteous. TB is able to trace the original message in a folder by clicking on that link. Do you use ZoneAlarm? I No. Straight to the mail servers. ZoneAlarm is a client-side software firewall known to stall TB's communications. Are these your own mail servers? Do you have access to the logs on the servers? If so, it may be beneficial to expose a critical trace of the stuck transaction for the experts on the TBTECH mailing list to comment on. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0aNsznkJKuSnc2gEQLzagCgyJ3alUEcz9gcwR7oqdhL/+vketgAoKyJ j5i/qMn4N7y5cycHr6o7RR5b =v6JN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
lost password
Hello TBUDL, My neighbor, who uses TB! because I long ago recommended it to him, had to format his hard drive recently. Now that he's installed TB 1.62r, he's discovered he's lost his password. He has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
scc In order to install The Bat on to my laptop, do I need a second license? if it is just for your use, I don't think so, I have a copy on my laptop and my home PC, but I ( and wife) are the only ones that use either copy. scc recreate from memory. For the time that I am away, can I create a scc structure on the laptop, but when I load all of the laptop e-mail to the scc home pc, can I have the home pc refilter everything that is on the laptop scc into the correct folders. tools-Synchronize it makes both computers have the same messages.. I use it when I go out of town.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 4:40:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, just courteous. TB is able to trace the original message in a folder by clicking on that link. Guess I'll have to upgrade to 2.0, but it's still strangely distracting. Are these your own mail servers? Do you have access to the logs on the servers? If so, it may be beneficial to expose a critical trace of the stuck transaction for the experts on the TBTECH mailing list to comment on. No, one is my ISP, comcast, the other is with a respected webhost. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
On August 22, 5:12 pm you wrote: No, just courteous. TB is able to trace the original message in a folder by clicking on that link. Guess I'll have to upgrade to 2.0, but it's still strangely distracting. You shouldn't need 2.0 to get that feature... it's been in there for a while. Just double click on the mid: link, and if it cannot find the email in the folder you're in, it'll prompt you for other folders you might want to search. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: lost password
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Quin, @22-Aug-2003, 15:52 -0600 (22:52 UK time) Quin Selman [QS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: QS My neighbor, who uses TB! because I long ago recommended it to QS him, had to format his hard drive recently. Now that he's QS installed TB 1.62r, he's discovered he's lost his password. He QS has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? Pay the $3.00 for the key regeneration service on the registration page of the RITlabs web site. The key passwords are not stored anywhere. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0ad4TnkJKuSnc2gEQIRWwCcCUcoLcWTEMXBapqMsKoElMgILxYAoM96 AcWcMJzmNZcQ2sHGzHrWQb1v =BHKc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Io219, @22-Aug-2003, 17:12 -0500 (23:12 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No, just courteous. TB is able to trace the original message in a folder by clicking on that link. I Guess I'll have to upgrade to 2.0, but it's still strangely I distracting. Not really - It's been a TB feature since late in the 1.5x series. Are these your own mail servers? I No, one is my ISP, comcast, Do they have any technical support that could give you a log of a failed download session? I the other is with a respected webhost. Are you using IMAP or POP3? Standard port settings? Any SSL or authentication involved? Any AV software or firewall software in use locally? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0aeqDnkJKuSnc2gEQJV2gCeJr/zB27k/2rHffk/NDUlqoQ7KikAniJr C2wj/BlRNMDG4OskHjmb3cht =ICY3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times. Oddly, the support personnel I have always been in contact with suck. I think an anonymous coward like you, [EMAIL PROTECTED], should not try to classify anyone as a »sucking« one. Next time you try flaming please make sure that you filled in your real name into the appropriate field of your mail program. 1) Mail stops being retrieved. In the old days before I bitched about this a ton, we didn't get the Some Tasks are still Active, quit when they are done message, we just didn't get anything and killed the process. They obviously know what the hell is going on because they added that dialog. My best guess, since they seem incapable of coming up with one, is that the retrieval thread is being `de-synched` when a server is slow, for whatever reason, perhaps it is slow enough that the timeout has elapsed AFTER a new retrieval is supposed to begin. IE, a timeout occurs 90 seconds after an attempt, but the retrievals are supposed to occur every 60 seconds. You are absolutely right, this should be fixed. But how? IIRC Rit had problems reproducing this bug. These problems have existed in many versions, I won't accept being told simply to upgrade, and I could care less if others have not experienced them. I have never reported any bug or slew of bugs without being told vehemently that others have not experienced them. A lot of people experienced the »hanging« connection center, including me. And it is very annoying indeed. I am using v2 beta now and had no connection center trouble for quite some beta versions. I don't know what changed, if it's TB! or something else... -- Carsten Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sacksa, [S] wrote: S Circumstances require me to be away from my primary pc for a number S of weeks. Mail is backing up on the server and will soon exceed the S 10 MB limit. My laptop, which I am currently using does not have The S Bat loaded on to it. I would like to install The Bat on to the S laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer S all of the downloaded e-mail to the pc with The Bat, when I return. S Is this possible? If so, how do I do this? Install TB! on the laptop. Create and configure the accounts. Download the mail, then do a synchronization on just the folders with messages. The synchronisation involves providing the laptop installation with a current snapshot of your desktop system. The snapshot is created by running step 1 of the synchronisation process on the desktop machine. Copy the snapshot to disk and then using this, create the synchronisation data file on the laptop. To do this run step 2 of the synchronisation process on the laptop. It'll ask for the desktop snapshot file when doing so. Finally, run step 3 on the desktop machine using the synchronisation data file you created on the laptop. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP0ajmFfJ62ArBxfiEQK8JwCg0yfzmlRbd7zPoEL9UWzwd2VrbV8AnixF 4cv6RMvfmgxyFPrNP+XUF7oe =qon5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 5:21:19 PM, you wrote: On August 22, 5:12 pm you wrote: No, just courteous. TB is able to trace the original message in a folder by clicking on that link. Guess I'll have to upgrade to 2.0, but it's still strangely distracting. You shouldn't need 2.0 to get that feature... it's been in there for a while. Just double click on the mid: link, and if it cannot find the email in the folder you're in, it'll prompt you for other folders you might want to search. Well for some reason I didn't see it as a blue link. I got 2.0 and now I do. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Linebreaks on Yahoo
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, 5:35:05 AM, Alexander wrote: 22-Aug-2003 16:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Confirmed! b1 and b2 didn't do this, but b3 does. It was on the Beta list that I read about it then. Now, the only problem that remains is that Günter is using 1.62r... ;-) Exactly, that's the problem :-) Some kind of virus transmitted from the Beta list? Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [real] Re: lost password
Hello Marck, Friday, August 22, 2003, 4:49:00 PM, you wrote: QS. . . he's discovered he's lost his password. He QS has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? Pay the $3.00 for the key regeneration service on the registration page of the RITlabs web site. The key passwords are not stored anywhere. Thanks, Marck, for the quick answer. -- Best regards, Quin Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 5:52:21 PM, you wrote: Do they have any technical support that could give you a log of a failed download session? I don't even know if it is failing. The Bat! does, and others have experience the same. What should I do which does not involve any of my ISP's next time this occurs to possibly at least isolate the problem to a specific ISP. ISP, Internet Service Provider. Under this term I include the internet service which grants me general access to the internet via digital cable and modem as well as the internet services provided to me by school and corporate sources as necessary, as well as those internet services provided to me by the provider of my own website hosting. Just to clarify. Are you using IMAP or POP3? Standard port settings? Any SSL or authentication involved? Any AV software or firewall software in use locally? POP3, standard port, no SSL, no AV, no firewall. Problem has occurred for quite some time in many versions of 1.x. Problem has occurred for other users I never knew of until today. Problem has occurred across many reformats and on multiple machines. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 5:27:42 PM, you wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times. Oddly, the support personnel I have always been in contact with suck. I think an anonymous coward like you, [EMAIL PROTECTED], should not try to classify anyone as a »sucking« one. Next time you try flaming please make sure that you filled in your real name into the appropriate field of your mail program. I don't like that, I prefer e-mail addresses and setup my client to show me just e-mail addresses all the same. But since you're calling me names, fuck you too bitch. No real conviction there, but I guess that's what you wanted. And, the support personnel did indeed suck. I have the transcripts if you want to start an inquisition, they're quite hilarious. *shrug* You are absolutely right, this should be fixed. But how? IIRC Rit had problems reproducing this bug. You know of this problem? You were somehow involved in attempting to fix it? Yes, bugs can sometimes be difficult to reproduce, especially when networking is involved. I don't know how they fix it, I don't have the code. I'm willing to work with them, as was attempted many times over the years. There's always a limit. These problems have existed in many versions, I won't accept being told simply to upgrade, and I could care less if others have not experienced them. I have never reported any bug or slew of bugs without being told vehemently that others have not experienced them. A lot of people experienced the »hanging« connection center, including me. And it is very annoying indeed. I am using v2 beta now and had no connection center trouble for quite some beta versions. I don't know what changed, if it's TB! or something else... I've upgraded to 2.0 beta 3 as well and will certainly continue to report this problem if it occurs in 2.0 beta 3. And if it does not, they've fixed it quietly and I will not be terribly surprised, just bitter. -Tomi Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
Hello Marck, Friday, August 22, 2003, 11:52:21 PM, you wrote: I No, one is my ISP, comcast, MDP Do they have any technical support that could give you a log of a MDP failed download session? Hahahahaha! Excuse my laughing Marck, but Comcast, according to my US friends, probably can't even spell the word technical. They are one of the, if not the worst, providers in the US. -- Best regards, malexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
Hello Carsten, I am sick and tired of having to kill the TB process. This has happened in most/all versions I have ever used and I reported it many times. Oddly, the support personnel I have always been in contact with suck. I think an anonymous coward like you, [EMAIL PROTECTED], should not try to classify anyone as a »sucking« one. Next time you try flaming please make sure that you filled in your real name into the appropriate field of your mail program. Agreed! -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering problem
It used to be that my filtering filtered mail into folders, and anything not already filtered would go to the Inbox. Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash! I've removed all the filters and started over twice, with the same result. What's up with this? Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: blah!
At 7:30 PM on 8/22/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed ... I think an anonymous coward like you, [EMAIL PROTECTED], should not try to classify anyone as a »sucking« one. Next time you try flaming please make sure that you filled in your real name into the appropriate field of your mail program. i I don't like that, I prefer e-mail addresses and setup my client to show me i just e-mail addresses all the same. But since you're calling me names, fuck i you too bitch. No real conviction there, but I guess that's what you wanted. My, my. Go wash your fingers, little fellow. Any while you're at it, see if you can dislodge that boulder from your shoulder. -- Bill Blinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 8/22/2003 at 7:43 PM William Blinn Communications, Columbus, Ohio Direct: 614-785-9359 614-324-7818 Cell: 614-893-4151 Fax: 877-870-4892 Random thought: If you underestimate protocol, you've never had a cat. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:36:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I No, one is my ISP, comcast, MDP Do they have any technical support that could give you a log of a MDP failed download session? Hahahahaha! Excuse my laughing Marck, but Comcast, according to my US friends, probably can't even spell the word technical. They are one of the, if not the worst, providers in the US. If you need support, they are horrible, but horrible support is nearly expected. One huge aspect of my business is excellent support, and part of that excellent support is provided by The Bat! ;-) Regardless, when I read that, I just sighed. I guess it's funny in a satanic sorta way, but it gets old, especially when you experience the same from most companies. RIT support is similarly horrid, except the people I was talking to either cannot understand english very well or use that possibility as a ploy to increase the users chance of giving up, much like my younger sister doing the dishes in such a fucked up manner that my parents were wary to ask her to do them again, she did it on purpose. RIT support is similar to that of an open source project. I did not realize that previously, so I was mailing them directly expecting quality e-mail support, when I should have been asking the devout users on these lists. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install The Bat on to the laptop, download e-mail from the server, and, eventually, transfer all of the downloaded e-mail to the pc with The Bat, when I return. Is this possible? Yes, it is. If so, how do I do this? My preferred method is as follows: In the laptop installed Bat!, create a new filter that catches _all_ incoming mail. Move it to the top of the filter-list. Under Tab Actions select Export Message to file and name the directory\file where the messages are to be saved into. Choose Unix Mailbox file as Export format. Choose Append to existing file. This filter will create a copy of _all_ incoming mail into 1 standard unix mailbox formatted file. [] can I have the home pc refilter everything that is on the laptop into the correct folders. This should be the easiest part. All mail received on your laptop is in one file. You can now import this file into the Inbox of the home pc (click on Inbox, choose: Tools - Import Messages - From UNIX-mailboxes and select filename). Then choose Folder - Re-filter and all imported messages are now processed according to your home pc filter settings! Arjan Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [real] Re: lost password
-- Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:18:26 PM, you wrote: QS. . . he's discovered he's lost his password. He QS has (I hope) the other numbers. What can he do? Pay the $3.00 for the key regeneration service on the registration page of the RITlabs web site. The key passwords are not stored anywhere. Wow, that's a pretty good idea, I might have to do that... (I don't have the original message, don't have an anxiety attack) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: (was: blah!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Io219, @22-Aug-2003, 18:30 -0500 (00:30 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think an anonymous coward like you... I ... f*** you too b***. moderator Such flagrant flouting of the list rules has only one response. Bye-bye Mr io219 (whoever you may be). However ... it must be said ... Carsten - that *was* more than a tad personal, also against list rules. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0a0nznkJKuSnc2gEQJ1PQCgqCrrsyJS1btlTFNCJhXqMKmcpyIAoKNs E6p0hTA5XW31ackmWIzN9f/V =PboL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
iPac Sync
Hello all, I think I already know the answer but then again, it's free to ask... I just heard that everyone at our company is getting an Compaq iPaq 1915. Main reason of course, so we all can sync our e-mail and agenda/appointments with our laptops and so on. But I'm one of few who's not using LookOut. Does anyone know if its possible to sync with The Bat!? Plugings, third party software, what ever... The iPaq runs Windows CE. -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reading confirmation
Hello Mark, In answer to yours of Friday, August 22, 2003, 9:54 AM: MW Look under Filter Actions | Create Reading Confirmation (forced). Under Filter/Actions I don't see Create Reading Confirmation (forced) or anything like it. Sometimes I wonder if I have the same program as other people! I would like a hot key to initiate a confirmation to any message in the account but am now wondering if this should be a request for a new feature not some sort of macro using the existing program. -- Thanks for the help, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: reading confirmation
On Friday, August 22, 2003, John Bartlett wrote: Under Filter/Actions I don't see Create Reading Confirmation (forced) or anything like it. Sometimes I wonder if I have the same program as other people! Me, too. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can you Park a thread?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Bat List, Is it possible to park a collapsed thread. When I use ctrl-J or click the park button on the top message in a thread is parked. - -- Best regards, Dennis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAP0bEdECs58Ew2H2PAQHnUQP/dzwRHh0/ZXNlxwfl8nU0Ga0F36tIAuKU yBJNlI7S4UQgmNX8Gd+UfPzzlVkxkTpdcj9FdiGyvCGB8jM9zY1NYmau7dBFteY7 i/uKKe8RWJ5Xm/42nJQAyp0efTzRN/5s5Ka0Lpb05gix3yhE1WGHMyxO8RVaEH2Z z3+kjJ1YC5M= =hHm8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: reading confirmation
At 8:49 PM on 8/22/2003, Karen Kay typed ... K On Friday, August 22, 2003, John Bartlett wrote: Under Filter/Actions I don't see Create Reading Confirmation (forced) or anything like it. Sometimes I wonder if I have the same program as other people! K Me, too. Sometimes things are buried deep in the menus. Open Sorting Office, choose the Actions tab, and scroll down. The options on the actions tab are: Mark as read Flag ... Set priority ... Set colour ... Park Delete Delete from server Print (last one visible on my machine without scrolling) Add addresses Delete Addresses Sent auto-reply CREATE READING CONFIRMATION (FORCED) Forward to ... and a whole bunch of actions that I didn't know were there. -- Bill Blinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 8/22/2003 at 9:35 PM William Blinn Communications, Columbus, Ohio Direct: 614-785-9359 614-324-7818 Cell: 614-893-4151 Fax: 877-870-4892 Random thought: It's hard to be serious when you're naked. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
Hello John, MW Look under Filter Actions | Create Reading Confirmation (forced). Under Filter/Actions I don't see Create Reading Confirmation (forced) or anything like it. Sometimes I wonder if I have the same program as other people! In TB's main window Cntl+Shft+S will bring up 'Sorting Office' for the account you are in commonly known as 'Filter'. Account | Sorting/Office Filters will do the same. Create a 'Read messages' filter with '.' as the string and leave the 'Inbox' as 'Source' and 'Move' folders. On the 'Actions' tab select 'Create Reading Confirmation (forced)', and on the 'Options' tab select 'Execute action set of this rule by pressing the Hot Key:' and hit the keys you want. Or conversely just copy this filter and paste it into your office filters under 'Read messages'. --start- BeginFilter Name: Reading Confirm Active: 1 Source: \\ML MyDomain\Inbox Target: \\ML MyDomain\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00. Actions: faoMakeRCR,faoRegExp,faoHotKey AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49223 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter ---end--- You might want to edit your desired hot key on the 'Options' tab. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: reading confirmation
Hello Bill, In answer to yours of Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:39 PM: BBTE Sometimes things are buried deep in the menus. Thanks Bill. They sure are buried! I must learn not to ignore scroll bars! What will that 'forced confirmation' do? Will it confirm *every* message arriving at that folder? My initial question remains - can I 'force' a confirmation on any specific e in the whole account? Sometimes I might want to assure someone that the e has been read and will be answered later even though the message is from a new contact whose e filters to 'Inbox'. -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: IO219
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi T'Buddlers, After private mails from the slightly anonymous io219 (although I did note the sign off Tomi in one of his posts) in which he has promised not to swear on-list again, Allie and I have decided to let him back on. Let's make this a clean start and try to remember the community flavour that we try to encourage here. We should try to understand that he has come here angry and confused about the way TB has been behaving for him and the lack of support he feels he has experienced to date from RITlabs. Thanks, y'all. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0bJ1TnkJKuSnc2gEQLgSACeMNYXTqA83iRympuuSHWYsPBRgr4AnRBZ GzVhP4SxXvA2m9F3DNsP9Rec =RO9m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reading confirmation
Hello Greg, In answer to yours of Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:51 PM: GS Or conversely just copy this filter and paste it into your office GS filters under 'Read messages' Now that sounds like the answer to a maiden's prayer - well, mine anyway. I'll experiment. This exercise has taught me a lot. Thanks to you Greg and the other correspondents. -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
Hello John, They sure are buried! I must learn not to ignore scroll bars! What will that 'forced confirmation' do? Will it confirm *every* message arriving at that folder? No not if you set it up as a 'Read messages' filter. My initial question remains - can I 'force' a confirmation on any specific e in the whole account? If you mean 'e' as in email, then yes with the your designated hot key. Sometimes I might want to assure someone that the e has been read and will be answered later even though the message is from a new contact whose e filters to 'Inbox'. You can use the filter how ever you want, however you may want to edit your 'Reading confirmation' template under the 'Account properties' (Shft+Ctrl+P) or Account | Properties. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
Hello John, Thanks to you Greg and the other correspondents. No problem. To be honest I didn't know how to do it, but know some of TB basics. When I saw your question I thought it might be something useful for me down the road, and figured it out. This is how I learn TB. With so many features the only way to learn is by using them. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: reading confirmation
Hello Greg, In answer to yours of Friday, August 22, 2003, 6:51 PM: GS on the 'Options' tab select 'Execute action set of this rule by GS pressing the Hot Key:' and hit the keys you want. If you just received a confirmation Greg, it worked! Thanks again. -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: reading confirmation
On Friday, August 22, 2003, Bill Blinn-Technology Editor wrote: Sometimes things are buried deep in the menus. Open Sorting Office, choose the Actions tab, and scroll down. The options on the actions tab are: Mark as read Flag ... Set priority ... Set colour ... Park Delete Delete from server Print (last one visible on my machine without scrolling) Add addresses Delete Addresses Sent auto-reply CREATE READING CONFIRMATION (FORCED) Sure enough!:) Thank you, I shall wear a dunce cap for the rest of the week. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: reading confirmation
Hello John, In answer to yours of Friday, August 22, 2003, 7:15 PM: JB If you just received a confirmation Greg, it worked! Thanks again. It seems the list owner doesn't allow confirmation receipts but the hot key works on e to myself. I think you hit it on the head Greg! Thanks again. P.S. The use of 'e' for email is my way of reducing abbreviations to a minimum. It is a noun, singular and plural, a verb and just about anything you want! -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Vancouver Island, BC Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: blah!
Mark: On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 3:43:38 PM, I received a message in which you wrote: (Text not relevant to my reply may have been snipped.) @22-Aug-2003, 14:59 -0500 (20:59 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [I] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No doubt asked and answered before, but could you give an example of a macro that puts the link to the original message into the reply preamble? This feature was news to me. Thanks. -- Stan Robins Mendota Heights, MN Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat, 1.62r www.ritlabs.com * Golf is a game in which you yell fore, shoot six and write down five. - Paul Harvey * Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reading confirmation
Hello John, If you just received a confirmation Greg, it worked! Thanks again. Well not yet. You have to be careful with using the confirmation with list messages. I ran under test with the default 'Reading confirmation' template on a TBUDL message. It replies to the list, so I think the 'Reading confirmation' template sends to the 'Reply-To:' address. On TBUDL this is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would think you wouldn't be using with list mail, so the address should be ok. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: blah!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stan, @22-Aug-2003, 20:58 -0500 (02:58 UK time) Stan Robins [SR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: SR No doubt asked and answered before, but could you give an SR example of a macro that puts the link to the original message SR into the reply preamble? I use this quick template: ,--/ MSGID \-- | mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=;(.*)%REGEXPMATCH=%OMSGID `-8- - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBP0bU5DnkJKuSnc2gEQKY5QCdH+Yvcqtp72GRYtYaMVRrfrg/dg8Anjz/ PCeQxC54hJTfJI5WA2ELN0Ab =m4Y0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Hello sacksa, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:40:21 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 04:40 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to install The Bat on to my laptop, do I need a second license? The licences for the 1.xx versions are one-person licences. You can use TB with one registration on different computers, but not at the same time. This was Ritlab's reply to me when I asked them the same question a few years ago, as I had one copy of TB installed at home, and another one in the office. The licences for v2 will be single-computer licences, the way I read it, but don't quote me on that. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
Hello Karen, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:43:56 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 06:43 +0700 GMT), Karen Kay wrote: Now, for some reason, mail not affected by the filters (like this mailing list e-mail) ends up in Trash! Do you have any filter that moves messages to trash? It may be a catch-all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Friday, August 22, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Do you have any filter that moves messages to trash? It may be a catch-all. Yes, I have several filters that move messages to trash. They all specify a recipient that is some form of my domain name. Personal mail is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but junk mail can be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would have thought that these addresses would be discrete, though. Am I wrong? Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering problem
Hello Karen, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:37:15 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 10:37 +0700 GMT), Karen Kay wrote: Do you have any filter that moves messages to trash? It may be a catch-all. Yes, I have several filters that move messages to trash. They all specify a recipient that is some form of my domain name. Personal mail is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but junk mail can be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would have thought that these addresses would be discrete, though. Am I wrong? Let me understand this: 1.) You have a folder that moves messages From [EMAIL PROTECTED] to trash. 2.) TBUDL messages are being moved to trash. May it be that only those you wrote yourself are being moved to trash? If all are moved, then de-activate the filters one by one and see when the unwanted behaviour stops. That's be the culprit. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ist es nicht merkwuerdig, dass jeden Tag gerade so viel passiert, wie in die Zeitung passt? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering problem
On Friday, August 22, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Karen, On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:37:15 -0500 GMT (23/08/2003, 10:37 +0700 GMT), Karen Kay wrote: Do you have any filter that moves messages to trash? It may be a catch-all. Yes, I have several filters that move messages to trash. They all specify a recipient that is some form of my domain name. Personal mail is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but junk mail can be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would have thought that these addresses would be discrete, though. Am I wrong? Let me understand this: 1.) You have a folder that moves messages From [EMAIL PROTECTED] to trash. No, I have a filter that moves messages addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Trash. This is what I want to happen. Messages addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are also being moved to Trash, but I want messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], including TBUDL messages, to stay in the Inbox. 2.) TBUDL messages are being moved to trash. May it be that only those you wrote yourself are being moved to trash? No. If all are moved, then de-activate the filters one by one and see when the unwanted behaviour stops. That's be the culprit. Er, thanks. I have about 50 filters, and I did get rid of them all, but it seemed that the moment I put the first filter, this behavior started again. Karen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
On Friday, August 22, 2003, Dennis W. Greer wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DWG Is it possible to park a collapsed thread. Dennis, Yes. Right-click/Thread/Park. If there's a keyboard shortcut, I'm not aware of it. You can probably set up a hotkey, though. -- JN Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
