New to The Bat!: Questions I can't find answers to

2009-12-08 Thread Amy J. Schneider
Greetings, all --

Longtime Eudora user here who had Eudora crash on her one too many 
times and finally decided to take the leap to a new client that's 
still being supported. I've spent some time playing with settings and 
got a lot of my issues tamed. But I still have a few outstanding. Can 
you help, or point me to where to look?

(using The Bat! v.4.2.12.4 on Win XP SP 3)

(1) Is there any way to replicate the Eudora method of having 
double-clicked messages open in the same pane as the message list 
(that is, not a separate window)? I don't like using the preview pane 
because of spam avoidance (both HTML bugs and just having to see the 
stupid things at all), but those extra taskbar buttons for each 
message really take up a lot of space.

(2) Speaking of spam . . . am I really stuck with having to purchase 
an extra plug-in in order to get the same junk filtering that Eudora 
provided as part of the package? (Or are there freebies that I'm not 
seeing?)

(3) I'm also strongly used to keeping messages in ascending order, and 
Eudora would always open a message list with the last (newest) message 
visible at the bottom. The Bat! is making me scroll down every time, 
and I can't figure out how to change this. Am I doomed to force myself 
to get used to using descending order (which I hate as much as top 
posting)?

I think that's all for now. Thanks much for any light you can shed.

Regards,
Amy J. Schneider
a...@featherschneider.com
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Re: New to The Bat!: Questions I can't find answers to

2009-12-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Amy,

On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:40:35 -0600GMT (8-12-2009, 14:40 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

AJS (1) Is there any way to replicate the Eudora method of having 
AJS double-clicked messages open in the same pane as the message list 

No.

AJS (2) Speaking of spam . . . am I really stuck with having to purchase 
AJS an extra plug-in in order to get the same junk filtering that Eudora 
AJS provided as part of the package? (Or are there freebies that I'm not 
AJS seeing?)

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin.php
I thought some of those had a free variety.

AJS (3) I'm also strongly used to keeping messages in ascending order, and
AJS Eudora would always open a message list with the last (newest) message
AJS visible at the bottom. The Bat! is making me scroll down every time, 
AJS and I can't figure out how to change this. Am I doomed to force myself
AJS to get used to using descending order (which I hate as much as top 
AJS posting)?

Over  here TB places the cursor at the last message in the list that I
opened,  whether  it's  on  top  of the message list, at the bottom or
somewhere in between. That might be related to the fact that I read my
messages in the preview pane.
Apart from that it's easy to find the first unread message by pressing
Ctrl-Right.

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Re: New to The Bat!: Questions I can't find answers to

2009-12-08 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Tuesday 8 December 2009 at 1:40:35 PM, in
mid:43679945.20091208074...@featherschneider.com, Amy J. Schneider
wrote:


 (1) Is there any way to replicate the Eudora method of
 having  double-clicked messages open in the same pane
 as the message list  (that is, not a separate window)?


The Bat! opens a new window viewing the folder containing the message
you have double-clicked, not just the message. You can show or hide 
the message list in that window via its view menu. 



 I don't like using the preview pane  because of spam
 avoidance (both HTML bugs and just having to see the
 stupid things at all), but those extra taskbar buttons
 for each  message really take up a lot of space.



Linked images (HTML bugs included, obviously) will only be displayed
in TB! if you specifically tell it to, either on an image-by-image
basis or by whitelisting a domain. But why not just view everything in 
plain text?



 (2) Speaking of spam . . . am I really stuck with
 having to purchase  an extra plug-in in order to get
 the same junk filtering that Eudora  provided as part
 of the package? (Or are there freebies that I'm not
 seeing?)

I believe some contributors to this list use free spam filters. I find 
that care with who I give my address to, coupled with appropriate use of 
disposable email addresses, keeps it down to maybe a dozen spam messages 
a week out of about 800 received.



 (3) I'm also strongly used to keeping messages in
 ascending order, and Eudora would always open a message
 list with the last (newest) message visible at the
 bottom. The Bat! is making me scroll down every time,
 and I can't figure out how to change this. Am I doomed
 to force myself to get used to using descending order
 (which I hate as much as top  posting)?

In the main window, go to View | Message List Columns and set the 
order and threading that suits you best. I don't understand why TB! is 
causing you to have to scroll down every time, as it has always opened 
my folders with focus on the last message I viewed in that folder.




 I think that's all for now. Thanks much for any light
 you can shed.

 Regards, Amy J. Schneider a...@featherschneider.com who
 hasn't had time to set up sig templates yet

The moderators will soon be after you if you don't include a cut mark
of dashdashspacereturn so that the reply cuts off the group 
footer.


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MFPA

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Folders on disk, missing from TB!

2009-12-08 Thread Andrew Webber
The Bat! Professional v4.0.38, Windows 7, no encryption since it cause
me so much trouble before and turned out not to be secure anyway (when
I restored from a backup of the encrypted install, no password needed
to reveal everything!).

Some folders seem to be disappearing and I don't know why. To cite one
example I'm sure of, in Windows Explorer I can see folder X with
sub-folders Y and Z.

In The Bat! I can only see X and Z. I've done CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L from
the account's Inbox, from X, and from Z. In every case I get 0 lost
folders found. Z didn't even exist before, I had X and Y and when Y
disappeared, I thought I deleted it (Y) by accident so I created Z.

Folder X has MESSAGES.TBB = 43 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 18 KB
Folder Y has MESSAGES.TBB = 3968 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 316 KB
Folder Z has MESSAGES.TBB = 84 KB, MESSAGES.TBI = 24 KB

Is there anything else I can do to have The Bat! find these?

Thanks!

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Re[2]: Automatic Folder Cleaning

2009-12-08 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Monday, November 16, 2009, 7:05:17 PM, MFPA wrote:

 You can select a number of days to keep messages and/or a maximum
 number of messages to keep. You can also use folder-specific
 deletion settings choose what to do with the messages you are
 removing (eg move them to an archive folder).

It would be nice if the Inbox allowed folder-specific deletion
settings, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't.   Wonder why.

-- 
Best,

M-K
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