Re: Resending Messages
Monday, December 10, 2001, 5:35:48 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: If you have the parked message column enabled in the Outbox message list, you'll see a little paper with an hour glass over it. To see what I mean, create a new message and save it as a draft. Look at the parked column. Hmm.. I see what you mean. It was the parked message column; it wasn't there. Thanks! Zach -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: [SOT] Filters, partial strings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter Palmreuther ! On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:50:31 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 10.12.2001, 00:50 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] '123.456.789.698' as you have no chance to validate the number is between 0 255 (including), but it's quite sure better than nothing :-) Why not using [012][0-5][0-5] if it is always a three-digit number (else you have to use alternatives...) Sorry, I know this should be posted in TBTech. Mea culpa. - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.53t PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Key-ID: 0x0FB66C7D or 0xD56C6187 iQA/AwUBPBXG90y/sHrVbGGHEQIMeQCfaaVKeDX/gL8hM0pPGVYBcyf53f0An3sn B9RxWltEeWNyWzbHiI/cukB8 =bSI6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filters, partial strings
Hello Gerd, On 11 Dec 2001 at 10:42:11 you wrote (at least in part): '123.456.789.698' as you have no chance to validate the number is between 0 255 (including), but it's quite sure better than nothing :-) GE Why not using [012][0-5][0-5] if it is always a three-digit number GE (else you have to use alternatives...) The downside is: Joseph did not write about this always being a 3-digit number at last position and so I assumed 'normal' IP criteria. And an IP address is described as 4 blocks of numbers, divided by a period, each block able to contain a decimal value between 0 255. So you _can_ write 1.2.3.004 but you are not enforced to. GE Sorry, I know this should be posted in TBTech. Mea culpa. NIMHO. It's an answer to a users question about his filters and not a deeper technical discussion about basics or something similar :-) Thinking your way nearly everything in this list would have to end up in TBTECH after the 2nd reply *ggg* -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has limits. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: [SOT] Filters, partial strings
Hi Gerd, An archeological dig discovered that on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:42 GMT +0100, Gerd Ewald [GE] typed the following: GE Hello Peter Palmreuther ! GE On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:50:31 +0100 GMT your local time, GE which was 10.12.2001, 00:50 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: GE [...] '123.456.789.698' as you have no chance to validate the number is between 0 255 (including), but it's quite sure better than nothing :-) GE Why not using [012][0-5][0-5] if it is always a three-digit number GE (else you have to use alternatives...) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A I've determined the momentum of my physics assignment so precisely that it can be anywhere in the universe right now. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: [SOT] Filters, partial strings
Hi Gerd, It was foretold that on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 10:42 GMT +0100, Gerd Ewald [GE] would type: '123.456.789.698' as you have no chance to validate the number is between 0 255 (including), but it's quite sure better than nothing :-) GE Why not using [012][0-5][0-5] if it is always a three-digit number GE (else you have to use alternatives...) That regular expression won't catch all three digit numbers between 0 and 255, it will catch all numbers from: 000-055, 100-155, 200-255 You're missing ranges. One that might work better is: (\d|\d\d|[01]\d\d|2[0-5][0-5])\D Of course this is significantly more complicated, but it should work for any number between 0 and 255. The added bonus is it isn't limited to 3 digit numbers. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Despite these words, this page is blank. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: [SOT] Filters, partial strings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Januk Aggarwal ! On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 02:08:22 -0800 GMT your local time, which was 11.12.2001, 11:08 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] That regular expression won't catch all three digit numbers between 0 and 255, it will catch all numbers from: 000-055, 100-155, 200-255 Aaarrrgghh, you are right. Seems as if I'm still in bed ;-) I should test my ideas before. You're missing ranges. One that might work better is: (\d|\d\d|[01]\d\d|2[0-5][0-5])\D When I wrote mine I remembered a regex which was printed in *Friedel*, but was too lazy to look it up. Here it is: ([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5]) Still 0.0.0.0 is possible, but this another story. - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.53t PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - I cried because I had no sex life. Then I met a man with no hands. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Key-ID: 0x0FB66C7D or 0xD56C6187 iQA/AwUBPBXOkky/sHrVbGGHEQLDFgCcDh51lkxPU5oGFJCwGtMXwHXpEYkAn2G1 OT9KSlrXaahQE+L/CPTO/yMl =/IN2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: [SOT] Filters, partial strings
Hi Gerd, It was foretold that on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at 11:14 GMT +0100, Gerd Ewald [GE] would type: You're missing ranges. One that might work better is: (\d|\d\d|[01]\d\d|2[0-5][0-5])\D Heh, mine is wrong too. Mine will miss 206-209, 216-219, 226-229, etc. GE When I wrote mine I remembered a regex which was printed in *Friedel*, GE but was too lazy to look it up. Here it is: GE ([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.([01]?\d\d?|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5]) That'll work. GE Still 0.0.0.0 is possible, but this another story. Friedel's regexp will catch this case too. We can take this to TBTECH if you want to know how. Hints: 1. Look at the first alternative for each set of numbers. 2. Remember, \d matches *any* digit. 3. What does the repeat operator '?' do? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/15 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filters, partial strings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter Palmreuther ! On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:50:48 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 11.12.2001, 10:50 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] GE Why not using [012][0-5][0-5] if it is always a three-digit number GE (else you have to use alternatives...) The downside is: Joseph did not write about this always being a 3-digit number at last position and so I assumed 'normal' IP criteria. And an IP address is described as 4 blocks of numbers, divided by a period, each block able to contain a decimal value between 0 255. So you _can_ write 1.2.3.004 but you are not enforced to. Right. And even worse: mine was wrong as I forgot some possiblke numbers as Januk wrote. Sorry! I now quoted a regex for IP's out of Friedels book in my reply to Januk. GE Sorry, I know this should be posted in TBTech. Mea culpa. NIMHO. It's an answer to a users question about his filters and not a deeper technical discussion about basics or something similar :-) Thinking your way nearly everything in this list would have to end up in TBTECH after the 2nd reply *ggg* bg Right again. Nevertheless, my reply was related to the regex only (and it is again). So, that's why I apologized in advance ;-) - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.53t PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - There is a certain relief in change, even though it may be from bad to worse. Washington Irving (1783-1859) US Writer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Key-ID: 0x0FB66C7D or 0xD56C6187 iQA/AwUBPBXPSky/sHrVbGGHEQJBlACgv13IUoCvcts8xmhkOBIDZyAitJoAoLQj jaCRxmvgcO9473l2AlDrjo2Q =rj6l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Using the %IF macro
Hello Carsten. At 1:37 PM on Monday, December 10, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Using the %IF macro': Carsten You should try this one :-) Carsten ,- [ Macro ] Carsten | Hello %- Carsten | Carsten %IF:%TOADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:BouvTrainers.:%- Carsten | %IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':'NAWBA Carsten Listers.':'BouvListers.' Carsten '- Thank you, Carsten. This one is working fine. I have to figure out how to do this myself. First step: to review what I did wrong. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/15/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Using the %IF macro
Hello Roelof thank you for your help. At 1:08 PM on Monday, December 10, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Using the %IF macro': Roelof Hello%- Roelof %IF:%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:BouvTrainers.:%- Roelof %IF:'%TO'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':'NAWBA Listers.':'%- Roelof BouvListers.' Roelof You've mismatched the quotationmarks, between the Roelof condition and the then-statement should be a colon, Roelof the not-statement should be between quotation marks, Roelof that means that the whole second if-statement should Roelof be selected. And the %- should be inside the Roelof envelope of quotation marks. I appreciate the explanation of what I did wrong. One day I'll learn. hopefully. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/15/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Connection Centre problem
Hello, When sending a web based form e-mail the Connection Center comes up showing the mail is waiting to be sent. Manually sending doesn't work - the mail sits there in the Center. My sent mail folder shows the mail was sent. I receive replies to the mail. The only way to get the Connection Center and the e-mail to go away is to delete it. -- Best regards, Dennis W. Greermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety will have neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Printing all on the To list
Hello Marck. At 10:24 PM on Monday, December 10, 2001 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Printing all on the To list': Marck Use the %TOLIST macro instead. What would 'Reply To All' SHFT-CTRL-F5 do here? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/15/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Printing all on the To list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 11 December 2001 at 07:16:57 [GMT-0500] (which was 12:16 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points: Marck Use the %TOLIST macro instead. JR What would 'Reply To All' SHFT-CTRL-F5 do here? In terms of printing, nothing. In terms of outcome, it would create a message addressed to the original sender with the original list of other recipients copied to the CC field. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54 Beta/15-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE8FgGDOeQkq5KdzaARApBIAJ9gj7m19Ty40nnhME499OtA2F7f1ACbBk1x o+V7oe1SOtwq7Hgny7wAXX4= =yKfr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hello Alexander, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:22:45 -0800 GMT (11/12/2001, 06:22 +0800 GMT), Alexander Jason wrote: AJ I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed . . .. I think not, but not many people have seen your request, because it came as a reply to Re: Problem with URLS in AOL email. Check out the threading facility in TB by hitting alt-1. Hit crtl-* to open all threads. See your message hanging under the one you replied to. ;-) Switch back to non-threaded mode by hitting alt-0 (zero). See also View / View Threads by ... for more choices. Best is to start a new enquiry by using the new message feature in TB. AJ Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been AJ switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. AJ How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . We do. Check out Account / Properties / Transport / Mail Retrieval / Authentication. Now which kind of secure does your POP server require? ;-) On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? ^^ -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Everybody repeat after me.We are all individuals. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Sorting folders
Hello Rick, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:18:50 -0500 GMT (11/12/2001, 05:18 +0800 GMT), Rick Reumann wrote: RR Not sure if there is a sort command, there is one: click on the column header where it says Folder. You get a query telling you that you are about the rearrange the folders Y/N. If you click Yes, the fodlers will be rearranged in alphabetical order. RR but I know you can move any folder where you want by holding down RR the alt key and the dragging the folder to where you want it. In addition, if you hold both the alt and the shift keys while dragging, the dragged folder will become a child folder under the folder it has been dragged to. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Connection Centre showing no progress
Hello Raj, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:49:13 +0530 GMT (11/12/2001, 18:19 +0800 GMT), Raj wrote: My ISP *will* time me out but generally that will cause me to be disconnected...and I wasn't R Have you found a solution for the problem as I too am experiencing a simmilar R problem and its driving me mad. I just am not able to download mails which are R larger than 15-20 KB. I have the problem with one account; sometimes I can receive large messages (+300K), but usually not. The Connection Center does not time out, it just hangs there. My personal record is over 3 hours before I noticed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Snowmen fall from Heaven unassembled. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hello Thomas, On 11 Dec 2001 at 14:18:00 you wrote (at least in part): TF On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? No. I had problems learning this by myself, but it is Authentication :-) (I guess you're used to the German word 'Authentifizierung' but as I had to check by myself the 'fi' is not contained in the English version :-))). Don't ask how many times I stumbled over this in different RFC's I read *ggg*) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Anyone who hates Dogs and Kids Can't be All Bad. -- W. C. Fields -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter! On 11 Dec 2001 at 16:39:17 you wrote: (I guess you're used to the German word 'Authentifizierung' but as I had to check by myself the 'fi' is not contained in the English version :-))). This, BTW, is a very interesting example for the different histories of language - especially ones connected as closely as German and English. Due to the different vowel shifts in Germany and England the Latin cat from authenticat- the resulting words had to be changed to pronounceable. In English it essentially stayed Latin, in German cat became (t)zi, which needed a buffer. Caveat: This is only the abridged version; a comparative linguist with German as his main subject may have to say some more about it. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C When you say, I love you, mean it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBYedPTo1oA8g8dLEQKaLwCcC+qlBODF7BiYvVsUIw8XdEd6HigAnio2 EBS41htI57gRSmJ9GorUb8ck =LHas -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On 11 Dec 2001 at 14:18:00 you wrote: On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? Not according to Longman's DCE the OED - there is no such word. It goes back to the plural stem of the Latin authenticare. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C The graveyards are full of people who rushed in bravely but unwisely. (Terry Pratchett) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBYO6/To1oA8g8dLEQKcQgCg1hjyzJee+qzFBQRxChO+IwB0eYUAnjum hKhSPVq7UAiScdTicouA6vPT =2QR1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:18:00 +0800GMT (which was 14:18 +0100GMT where I live), Thomas F thought about Secure POP3 ? and wrote: AJ I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed . . .. TF I think not, but not many people have seen your request, because it TF came as a reply to Re: Problem with URLS in AOL email. Hi Thomas and Alexander, I'm one of them. I wouldn't have seen the mail as I'm not interested in AOL related matters... Secure POP3 is another matter. I'm really interested in that although I cannot contribute anything, being a learner myself... ;-) - -- Cheers Peter . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8FjtIAzZSBuEHdM4RAsqkAJ9a5VQKI5gUeHm7g8gLeSHKiqHvsQCgm/Ab oOrtfcMluk+f+cCG1GLjfXo= =K+/Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Problem with Connection Centre
Hi Thomas, Saturday, December 08, 2001, 10:35:34 AM, you wrote: TF You don't need to uninstall. You can back up your folders first (I do TF a complete backup every time before I upgrade). Then you jsut install TF the new version, and your mails will still be there and your settings TF too. I upgraded to 1.53d, but nothing happened. I had to backup all my accounts, uninstall TB and re-install it. BTW, the backup system is just *great*. Now I discovered that the problem happens whenever I minimize the Connection Centre, and I can't make it appear again, unless I backup, uninstall and re-install. Any ideas? TF There is also a Spanish list. Check out TF http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html It seems to be dead, but thanks anyway :) -- Regards, JM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:23:08 +0100GMT (which was 19:23 +0100GMT where I live), Oscar Carlsson thought about OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys. and wrote: OC Yeah well subject says most of it. I can't import keys or create any OC key.. It seems find, but nothing happens when i press OC finish/import.. Hi Oscar, which version of PGP are you using? Can you accomplish your planned tasks with PGP tray? Then it might be some failure with the TB! plugin...? - -- Cheers Peter Fatal error: Keyboard not found! Press F1 to continue. . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8FlfrAzZSBuEHdM4RAt2MAJ9mR60nrvVydSX7UbJHDHYc/y2rCQCcDEIj COdDJDN10KO3QWPPmcCzxDg= =oaDb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander! On 11 Dec 2001 at 18:41:20 you wrote: I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed I you always ask for forgiveness, did it ever come to mind that there is an archive to search? Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. It was hinted that SSL is planned. How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . Because this isn't Outlook? How is it that TB! is safe from malware attacks and others aren't? - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Sonar no cuesta nada (Träumen kostet nichts.). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBY/lvTo1oA8g8dLEQL7pQCeJFxkPJWLYTB6689MS77pdqRc+n8AoKvc X+8uBmi2BnXsL+3sEkZo77ns =1nHY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On 11 Dec 2001, at 01:26:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:26 where I live) PFord wrote: P Although RIT Labs claims that the Mail Ticker is unique, Novell's P Groupwise has a utility that is virtually identical, at least in the P early incarnations of the Mail Ticker, which predates The Bat. Are you sure? I don't know how long The Bat! and its MailTicker have been around, but if I remember correctly, GroupWise didn't have the Marquee as it is called until somewhere in the 5.x versions. -- Greetings, Maurice ICQ: 15724776 | WWW: http://www.kiap.org/ Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
Hello, Yeah well subject says most of it. I can't import keys or create any key.. It seems find, but nothing happens when i press finish/import.. ANY ideas?? oscar -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Dierk, Yes, it did occur to me to search the archive. Alex Jason Tuesday, December 11, 2001, 10:17:09, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander! On 11 Dec 2001 at 18:41:20 you wrote: I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed I you always ask for forgiveness, did it ever come to mind that there is an archive to search? Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. It was hinted that SSL is planned. How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . Because this isn't Outlook? How is it that TB! is safe from malware attacks and others aren't? - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Sonar no cuesta nada (Träumen kostet nichts.). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBY/lvTo1oA8g8dLEQL7pQCeJFxkPJWLYTB6689MS77pdqRc+n8AoKvc X+8uBmi2BnXsL+3sEkZo77ns =1nHY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
Hello Peter, OC Yeah well subject says most of it. I can't import keys or create any OC key.. It seems find, but nothing happens when i press OC finish/import.. PM which version of PGP are you using? Can you accomplish your planned tasks PM with PGP tray? Then it might be some failure with the TB! plugin...? I'm not using any standalone PGP software, I was trying to use the built in OpenPGP (Internal RFC-1991) I thought the idea was you didn't need any additional software when using that? -- Best regards, Oscarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
Hello Oscar, 11. december 2001, 21:39:00, you wrote: OC I'm not using any standalone PGP software, I was trying to use the OC built in OpenPGP (Internal RFC-1991) Built-in is only PGP 2.x compactible AFAIK. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] Just when you get really good at something, you don't need to do it any more. -- Lowrey's Law of Expertis -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Oscar, On 11 December 2001 at 21:39:00 [GMT+0100] (which was 20:39 where I live) Oscar Carlsson wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: PM which version of PGP are you using? Can you accomplish your PM planned tasks with PGP tray? Then it might be some failure with PM the TB! plugin...? OC I'm not using any standalone PGP software, I was trying to use the OC built in OpenPGP (Internal RFC-1991) OC I thought the idea was you didn't need any additional software OC when using that? That will only work with RSA keys and, since most people use the more sophisticated DH/DSS keys, you will need additional software. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / ' TB! v1.54 Beta/15-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE8FnXFOeQkq5KdzaARAjagAKDga4x2LUBkuB08tnXI1VtGxgt3XQCg5Bqb Ysdl3hzC1p46aUNZ7S36VB0= =1fvk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:39:00 +0100GMT (which was 21:39 +0100GMT where I live), Oscar Carlsson thought about OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys. and wrote: OC I'm not using any standalone PGP software, I was trying to use the OC built in OpenPGP (Internal RFC-1991) OC I thought the idea was you didn't need any additional software when OC using that? Oh I see. Well, I have never tested TB!'s built in PGP capabilities. It provides a good plugin for PGP 6.5.8, and GnuPG is featured in the beta version, so I think it makes sense to get an actual version of PGP. I'd recommend to visit www.gnupg.org or www.pgpi.org. - -- Cheers Peter The joyfulness of a man prolongeth his days. New Testament . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8FnlIAzZSBuEHdM4RAp4aAJ9Atm50xJKSwpwjNs3yiShSLe+rMQCfbH/0 2Z+iMEpEUEYz0awxZ35d96E= =sUSe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck D Pearlstone ! On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:08:19 + GMT your local time, which was 11.12.2001, 22:08 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: OC I thought the idea was you didn't need any additional software OC when using that? That will only work with RSA keys and, since most people use the more sophisticated DH/DSS keys, you will need additional software. Oscar, it is less work than you think to install PGP 6.5.8 and the PGP-DLL of TB. And after that TB will work with PGP as if it were a part of it (Hmmm, actually, with the DLL it is a part, isn't it?). - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.53t PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Erwerbsregel #60 Achte darauf, dass sich Deine Lügen nicht widersprechen. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Key-ID: 0x0FB66C7D or 0xD56C6187 iQA/AwUBPBZwCUy/sHrVbGGHEQKPKwCaAnMsgSuy682rDbHOB8km349T78MAoKzv OUfQyA0TImvqWS6eXXFUsV9A =z/ER -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: OpenPGP problems, can't import/create keys.
OC I thought the idea was you didn't need any additional software when OC using that? PM Oh I see. Well, I have never tested TB!'s built in PGP capabilities. It PM provides a good plugin for PGP 6.5.8, and GnuPG is featured in the beta PM version, so I think it makes sense to get an actual version of PGP. I'd PM recommend to visit www.gnupg.org or www.pgpi.org. PM - -- PM Cheers PM Peter Oh.. heh :) Thanks everyone for clearing that up.. I'm getting PGP now.. oscar -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Connection Centre showing no progress
Maurice, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, at 20:27:06 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:57 AM where I live) you wrote: R Thought/Joke for the mail : Cannot open file d:\bat\Cookies for Bat.txt MS Hmm, looks like you've been too eager copying an example template from MS somewhere! :) Not really - Actually I have just re installed the OS and the only other thing I restored was TB. Since this problem has been bugging me I was (am) not motivated to restore other applications.. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why isn't there a special name for the tops of your feet? Replied on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 using TB Ver 1.53d on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Alexander, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:41:20 -0800GMT (12/12/2001, 01:41 +0800GMT), Alexander Jason wrote: AJ NOTE: TB (v153d) does NOT have this type of common authentication. AJ Here is a reply from Stefan: We are working on it right now. Before we get it implemented, you can use the program STunnel (www.STunnel.org) together with The Bat!.. OK, so you are looking for SSL authentication. This has been on the wishlist, and as Stefan confirmed to you, is being worked on. IIRC correctly, this is one of the features that should be ready by the end of this year, but don't quote me on this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Dierk, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:49:18 +0100GMT (11/12/2001, 22:49 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? DH Not according to Longman's DCE the OED - there is no such word. It DH goes back to the plural stem of the Latin authenticare. I would have thought it is authentus, a, um + facere. (BTW since when do Latin words have th? Wouldn't this be a Greek word?). BTW I'm just guessing. f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Peter, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:39:17 +0100GMT (11/12/2001, 23:39 +0800GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP No. I had problems learning this by myself, but it is PP Authentication :-) PP (I guess you're used to the German word 'Authentifizierung' Yes. ;-) This is what my last English teacher used to call false friends. They betray you in translations, as you think you know this word - but beware. PP but as I had to check by myself the 'fi' is not contained in the PP English version :-))). I didn't actually look it up. Shame on me! ;-) f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ticker Lifted?
On December 11, 2001, Maurice Snellen wrote: On 11 Dec 2001, at 01:26:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:26 where I live) PFord wrote: P Although RIT Labs claims that the Mail Ticker is unique, Novell's P Groupwise has a utility that is virtually identical, at least in the P early incarnations of the Mail Ticker, which predates The Bat. Are you sure? I'm never sure about anything. I don't know how long The Bat! and its MailTicker have been around, but if I remember correctly, GroupWise didn't have the Marquee as it is called until somewhere in the 5.x versions. The Marquee was new to GW 5.5, released 9/98. I've been using The Bat since v.1.00.95, about 327 updates ago. My recollection is that the Mail Ticker was added in one of the 1.1x versions after GW 5.5, because I recall thinking at the time that it wasn't unique, but I could be wrong. Maybe some enterprising Novell programmer crooked the idea from a little known company in Moldavia. :) Could be a new source of revenue for RIT Labs. -- PFord The Bat! 1.53d (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
