Re[2]: Out Of Office Filter
Dear Thomas, Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 6:33:16 AM you wrote: TF The best solution is not to set up autoresponders: TF Inform the most important people, for example with a circular-type TF email, that you will be out of the office from...to. If people, who TF were not on the circular's recipient list, still try to contact you, TF they will have to wait until you're back. At that time, you can TF apologise for the late reply and explain. Has worked every time over TF here for the past 7 years. I fully agree! If people know that you normally answers at once or very fast, there is no need for autoreplyers. They will guess that you'are either sick or out of the office, if you don't reply. :-) -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... A Royale with cheese! What do they call a Big Mac? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Out Of Office Filter
Bravo. I actually look forward to those moments when I'm out of email contact. Then again, I've often been known not to answer ringing phones when not in the mood. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Out Of Office Filter
Hello Thomas, Some mailers always reply to the From address (even if that is in violation of the RFC's at times). An autoresponder set up with such a mailer would still create an endless loop. The best solution is not to set up autoresponders: I fully agree with you and don't use them myself. I was just suggesting a way to possibly break the loop. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Opening threads for reading
Hello Ray, Now we are getting somewhere! I certainly did. But I never try to convince anyone of doing things my way, just to point ideas. The Folder Browse window (I think it's called) isn't in the Shortcuts Editor is it? Is there any way to get at that windows shortcuts? I never or hardly never use the Folder Browse window. But you are right, I looked at the Shortcut Editor and there doesn't seem to be a way to change shortcuts for it. Now if I could get Ctrl-Right to be 'next unread' in the message list, preview pane and folder browser I would be happy. I would suggest that you experiment with the Shortcut Editor. But be careful, it doesn't have an option to revert to default values :-( Is there any way of changing the 'Next' and 'Previous' buttons to be 'Next Unread' and 'Previous Unread', or are these buttons hard coded? There is no option to change any button anywhere in TB :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Opening threads for reading
Hello Thomas, crtl-] works in this main window, regardless of the focus. Not on Spanish keyboards. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Opening threads for reading
[EMAIL PROTECTED]=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, May 30, 2002, 5:47:05 AM, you wrote: I use crtl-], which jumps to the next unread, and opnes threads if the next unread is within a collapsed thread. RD Not in the main window it doesn't. It doesn't do anything. It does work RD in the message window and preview pane though. TF Should you mean the folder view window (that the one that opens up TF when you highlight any message in the main window - as defined above - TF and double-clcik on it or hit enter), the focus needs to be on the TF message list, but crtl-] still works perfectly. I do mean the Folder View window, but didn't recognise the term. It appears to be called the Folder Browser in TB and I erroneously called it the Main window. Sorry for confusion. Unfortunately the Folder View window has less shortcuts than the message list and the latter loses the focus as soon as you do anything in the Folder View. As the FV covers the ML when maximised, it isn't always obvious it has taken over and some shortcuts don't work. I have been using Ctrl-Right to navigate in the message list and this doesn't work in the Folder View. I can't find the shortcuts for the FV in the Shortcuts editor so that I can enable it. How would I access these shortcuts to edit them? RD Is it possible to make the 'next unread' icon on the main window toolbar RD go to the next unread in the same thread - even though it is still RD collapsed? TF There is no next unread icon, only a next icon. Which for my purposes seems pretty superfluous. Is it possible to remap icons so that the 'next' icon becomes 'next unread'? It would be more useful IMHO than 'next'. Cheers, Ray D -- Ray Dawson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: pop3-ssl problem
Hi Peter, PP Hello Yalcin, PP On Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 5:54:41 PM you wrote in PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): YC I am using TB 1.53. YC We have a mail server with pop3s. YC I am tring the Properties -- Transport -- Receive mail Authentication YC then select MD5-APOP and tring to check my mail. YC I dont receive any mail or error, my mail server says YC May 29 18:43:10 servername vpopmail[12960]: vchkpw-pop3: password fail YC (pass: '') [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10.10.10.5 YC But I have no problem with mozilla or netscape mail client. YC It works well. PP Are you sure Mozilla Netscape-Mail are capable of MD5-APOP too _and_ PP you've turned it on when comparing if it works? PP Are you sure you vpopmail-installation is capable of MD5-APOP? What PP vpopmail-version are you running? What patches are applied? Is PP 'vchkpw-pop3' patched for recognizing MD5-APOP? PP What does 'pop3s' tell us in this situation, AFAIK 1.53 ain't capable of PP SSL or even STARTTLS? In Mozilla I checked the box Use secure connection(SSL) :-) In Netscape 6.2 I checked the same options in Server Settings section I installed the qmail-vpopmail with POP3 Server with APOP and SSL support Thx, for your help, Yalcin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bahcesehir Universitesi 34900 Bahcesehir-IST Tel: +90 212 669 6523 Fax: +90 212 669 4398 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Send and check for all
Hi , If I use the 'Send and check for all' option and there is no mail to send in any oth the Outboxes, then it brings up a box saying 'Nothing to send' Fine, except the Connection manager window (or whatever it's called) no longer appears with details of the downloading progress. How can I rectify that - or is it hidden behind the main window? Cheers, Ray D -- Ray Dawson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.raydawson.com Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Send and check for all
Hello... 'Options/Preferences/General/Display Connection Centre' Wednesday, May 29, 2002, 11:55:11 PM, you wrote: RD Fine, except the Connection manager window (or whatever it's called) RD no longer appears with details of the downloading progress. RD How can I rectify that - or is it hidden behind the main window? RD Cheers, RD Ray D -- Greg S. Wirth System Administrator Anchorage, Alaska Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Send and check for all
Hello Ray, On Thu, 30 May 2002 08:55:11 +0100GMT (30-5-02, 9:55 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RD If I use the 'Send and check for all' option and there is no mail to RD send in any oth the Outboxes, then it brings up a box saying 'Nothing RD to send' That's right. Not that strange of course, since there is nothing to send. ;-) RD Fine, except the Connection manager window (or whatever it's called) RD no longer appears with details of the downloading progress. It's lost focus, go to the taskbar and click on the Connection Centre and it's back on top. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Folder Templates
Hello Ray, On Thu, 30 May 2002 09:12:27 +0100GMT (30-5-02, 10:12 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RD I've set up all my mail lists in separate sub folders, all inside a RD Common Folder called Mail Lists. Makes sense, is somewhat akin to my setup. RD I can set the Identity and Templates for each mail list separately RD using the Properties of the individual folders. Yep. RD Is there any way I can get the sub folders to inherit the RD templates of the Mail List folder, with just specific changes RD being entered in their own Properties Templates? No. Folders don't inherit templates from their parent folders, only from their parent account. Of course you could drop all of those folders in one specific account and the have them inheriting the templates from the account. RD That way I can have generic templates set up in Mail Lists, but things RD like TO: fields and sigs set separately. There's a minor point about folder templates with %to macros. Every once in a while they turn out to be very embarrassing for someone. When you've left your focus on a folder with such a template and you start composing a personal message they go public. Don't say that that won't happen to you, you're only human. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Opening threads for reading
Miguel [M], On 30-05-2002 09:41, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M Hello Thomas, crtl-] works in this main window, regardless of the focus. M Not on Spanish keyboards. Nor on Danish. I changed it to CRTL+arrow down for all focuses. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.60k /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
Hello Kai, On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 12:17:34 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): KG Could some of the more experienced users please comment on the KG seriousness of the GDI leak in TB 1.60m? That's in the eye of the observer ... If you do not encounter problems (e.g. if you're running TB! only 2 hours in the evening) it's minor. If you're running TB! the whole day and suddenly in the afternoon TB! refuses to display messages and you have to restart it it becomes more worse. KG I cannot imagine that Ritlabs would refuse to fix that leak if it were KG really serious. Maybe they were just not hit yet and can't recreate the bug seriously and therefore struggle with fixing?! Or maybe they are concentrated on creating mysterious v2 and therefore fix a bug that only forces a program restart all 5+ hours just when there's spare time?! Who knows. At work I simply don't upgrade to 1.60m to avoid being hit, at home where the upgrade already is done I simply restart TB! and try to do not care about it. I've reported it, I've reported my observations, more can't be done. Well ... one thing can be and is done: warning everybody requesting if upgrade is OK that this bug _can_ occour ... That's all. I've not noticed other bugs that that prevent from using TB! in daily work, so if you can live with the chance of being forced to restart: go for it :-) If you encounter it while writing a message simply save it and restart TB!, only RTV is affected and editor still uses old plain text variant, so it ain't a show-stopper in this manner. Just my 0.02 Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60j on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Apt natural. I have a gub. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: When I reply, the quoted text wraps to 200 characters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... Then you'll get one big colossal block of text. Not really a solution, IMO. DH Well, I answered his question. If he likes or dislikes the resulting DH formatting does not lie in my domain ... Oh, Dierk, my friend. :-) I didn't expect that from you. The posted recursive macros do work very nicely. I'll have to keep them handy. I don't know why Ritlabs doesn't include something like this in their own paste formatted command. :-/ - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89ghXV8nrYCsHF+IRAsTeAJ9MfhwMJ0SFu/gZMnbRYnOIcH5dXwCgvyMH YIQDvHxdyTtZNTVxuzXN+Nc= =HUkY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
Hello all, On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 1:02:46 PM I wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): PP I've not noticed other bugs that that prevent from using TB! in daily work, I've to correct this statement a little bit ... Although still not a real show-stopper a probably annoying thing: 1.60m STILL is not able to 'Delete' hanging task(s). All in a sudden I'm forced to kill The Bat! the hard way (task manager or ProcExp) because it hangs on checking one accounts mail. The most annoying part with this is TB! does not remember the last focused folder and mail this way, I've never lost any single mail this way, maybe because I got used to 'Purge Compress all folders' before killing. I really wish TB! had a general connection timeout combined with a byte counter, so if xx minutes not a single bit was transferred the taks would get killed ... singing Dreams ... are my reality ... :-))) /singing -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60j on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Kiss me twice. I'm schizophrenic. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: When I reply, the quoted text wraps to 200 characters
Hello Allie! On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 1:09:10 PM you wrote: Oh, Dierk, my friend. :-) I didn't expect that from you. Don't get me wrong - you haven't, I'm sure -, it's just, the question was if TB! is able to re-format more than one paragraph at a time. And that it does. I totally agree that the result is ... [put in any suitable derogatory noun]. And why didn't you expect it from me? I worked hard to get the image of a nit-picking. philosophising intellectual. ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60m on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Shoot them all - let GOD sort them out. (Grandpa Simpson) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Opening threads for reading
Hello Peter, On Thu, 30 May 2002 10:56:34 +0200 GMT (30/05/02, 15:56 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: crtl-] works in this main window, regardless of the focus. M Not on Spanish keyboards. PF Nor on Danish. I changed it to CRTL+arrow down for all focuses. Didn't know that. Standard US keyboard shortcuts work here (Chinese keyboard). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 3. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: combine all messages in a thread to a text file?
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, 11:11:09 AM, Britt wrote: BM A way is to click (right) on the first message in the thread and BM choose to save as a text file. BM Do the same with the second, and save with the same name. Say no to BM delete (overwrite) the file, and yes to append to the existing file. Actually I just answered my own question:) Just highlight all the messages you want to save and then do the save as. No need to select each individually. This is awesome! -- Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If I ever get real rich, I hope I'm not real mean to poor people, like I am now. -Jack Handey Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: combine all messages in a thread to a text file?
Dear Rick, Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 5:20:00 PM you wrote: RR Actually I just answered my own question:) Just highlight all the RR messages you want to save and then do the save as. No need to RR select each individually. This is awesome! Great! I didn't know that :-) -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... It's 'fried rice', you Plick! ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: combine all messages in a thread to a text file?
Dear Rick, Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 5:02:52 PM you wrote: RR Say I want to combine all the messages in a thread into one nice text RR file? Is there a way to do that with the Bat? Yes, but there is probably more than one way. A way is to click (right) on the first message in the thread and choose to save as a text file. Do the same with the second, and save with the same name. Say no to delete (overwrite) the file, and yes to append to the existing file. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Could I speak to the drug dealer of the house, please? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: When I reply, the quoted text wraps to 200 characters
Hello Dwight, On Thu, 30 May 2002 09:13:10 -0500 GMT (30/05/02, 21:13 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC The message to which I replied was Jonathan's. The Ben quote was in DAC Jonathan's message. That is why there is a double '' in my message DAC after the 'JA' I see that now. I hadn't received Jonathan's message yet when I sent mine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. How come we choose from just two people for president and 50 for Miss America? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: pop3-ssl problem
Hi Peter, YC In Mozilla I checked the box Use secure connection(SSL) :-) YC In Netscape 6.2 I checked the same options in Server Settings section PP OK. So Mozilla and Nutscrape use SSL. That's an option for the PP _connection_, not for authentication. PP While The Bat! 1.53 seems to be set up using 'MD5-APOP' which is an option PP for authentication and not connection. PP So two issues are mixed up here ... :-/ You are right for this subject. I mixed it YC I installed the qmail-vpopmail with POP3 Server with APOP and SSL support PP That's fine. The problem is: PP There is no 'qmail-vpopmail'. This are two different, co-working, PP softwares. PP The next thing is: neither qmail nor vpopmail does support SSL 'from PP scratch' so this must be either an 'stunnel'-based installation or a PP patches qmail version - what patch (incl. qmail-version and patch-version) PP did you (the vendor) apply? PP The next is: vpopmail is capable of APOP, AFAIK. But what vpopmail-version PP are you using? 5.2? 5.3.x (devel branch)? PP If you're using and older vpopmail than 5.2: is this user created as 'APOP' PP user? When using =5.2: is 'clear-passwd' enabled? IIRC APOP relies on that. PP I'd suggest the first step you take is installing The Bat! 1.54, available PP from PP http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/ PP and enable SSL with normal POP3-authentication in The Bat!. This should be PP the same Mozilla Nutscrape are currently set up at your side. PP This way your password will be SSL-encrypted when transferred to the server PP and therefore be secure even if it's not extra encrypted by any PP MD5-algorithm. This is the story: :-) I installed a mail server based http://shupp.org/toaster/ A small text from the document *** Qmail SMTP Mail Server with SMTP-AUTH (Plain, CRAM-MD5), TLS (SSL) support, and optional Virus Scanner. POP3 Server with APOP and SSL support IMAP Server with TLS (SSL) support WebMail Server Quota Support (usage viewable by webmail) Autoresponder Mailing Lists Web-Based Email Administration *** I installed the all the necessary software (also stunnel and openssl) I only want that, usernames and password dont captured during the reading mail. Here is the problem: Most of my users use Netscape mail client and they have no problem with POP3 with SSL. But I like TB :-) and want the same security with the others :-) I changed the connection type to Secure the dedicated port (TLS) (port chaged 995 automaticly) that you sad me But it did not work :-( Here is my log: @40003cf63ec7329a8d3c 2002.05.30 18:01:17 LOG5[3396:1024]: Using 'qmail-popup' as tcpwrapper service name @40003cf63ec732f4ea0c 2002.05.30 18:01:17 LOG5[3396:1024]: stunnel 3.22 on i586-mandrake-linux-gnu PTHREAD+LIBWRAP with OpenSSL 0.9.6b 9 Jul 2001 @40003cf63ec732fb5694 2002.05.30 18:01:17 LOG5[3396:1024]: qmail-popup connected from 10.10.10.5:3995 @40003cf63ec7334ae9ac 2002.05.30 18:01:17 LOG3[3396:1024]: SSL_accept: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca @40003cf63ec73359baa4 tcpserver: end 3396 status 0 @40003cf63ec7335a994c tcpserver: status: 0/40 I have not got a real certificate, is it problem for TB Yalcin Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Template address
Hello Adam, On Thursday, May 30 2002 at 11:14 AM PDT, you wrote: Does a template address a message to an address? On a Tbudl folder, will it address to Tbudl list? It can, sure, but a Template is also used to provide formatting for messages you create, alleviating the time and trouble for instance of always having to enter addresses, greetings, signatures, etc. This all becomes automated when one uses Templates. TB is very powerful because of it's use of Templates. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Template address
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Thomas F wrote: Hello Adam, On Thu, 30 May 2002 14:14:58 -0400 (EDT) GMT (31/05/02, 01:14 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A Does a template address a message to an address? On a Tbudl folder, will A it address to Tbudl list? Yes. If you put the macro %TO=tbudl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] into the folder template in your TBUDL folder, every message you create in that folder will be sent to this list. Thanks Thomas. Next is, my cursor is still in the To field. How do I have it in the Subject field? I tried adding %SUBJECT=. But it didn't work. Also, does the template area provide for commenting, a few words not utilized? Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Hi all, Ive got the Rich Text Viewer enabled but how do I get email sigs to appear greyed out? I have tried putting -- followed by my sig but that doesn't work. How does the viewer decide what is a signature and what isn't? -- Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:06:54 PM, you wrote: LG Hi Mike, LG On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 07:38:59 [GMT -0700], you wrote: MD Is there a trick to getting the signature text colored with the MD fixed width viewer? LG No trick. This is a feature of the Rich Text Viewer only. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Template address
Hello Adam, On Thu, 30 May 2002 15:03:50 -0400 (EDT) GMT (31/05/02, 02:03 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A Thanks Thomas. Next is, my cursor is still in the To field. How do I A have it in the Subject field? The cursor does not move automatically. There is a macro %Cursor, which places the cursor at that point in the message body, but only after you have tabbed or moused into the body. Please check out the help file, keyword Template Macros. A Also, does the template area provide for commenting, a few words not A utilized? Yes, %REM. See help for syntax. The point of my previous message was that I recommend against using folder templates. I use addressbook templates instead. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Eat a live toad in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you for the rest of the day. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Hi Ben, On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 18:44:19 [GMT +0100], you wrote: BK I have tried putting -- followed by my sig but that doesn't work. BK How does the viewer decide what is a signature and what isn't? By a *correct* signature delimiter, which is dashdashspaceenter. ^^^ Have a look at my sig delimiter below (and mark it with the mouse) to see the difference. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Hello Ben, On Thu, 30 May 2002 18:44:19 +0100 GMT (31/05/02, 00:44 +0700 GMT), Ben Kennish wrote: BK Ive got the Rich Text Viewer enabled but how do I get email sigs to BK appear greyed out? I have tried putting -- followed by my sig but BK that doesn't work. BK How does the viewer decide what is a signature and what isn't? Errr... the signature delimiter is -- , or dashdashblankreturn. BK -- BK Ben Kennish BK [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are mssing the blank, that's why it doesn't work. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 15. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be What is Hell? Come early and listen to the choir practice. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Drafts
I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't find the message there. Eventually, I find the message. I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to use repeatedly. But the only thing I have is a sent message. -- Best regards, Adam mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Adam wrote... I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't find the message there. Eventually, I find the message. As far as I can see... I have no drafts folder. When I save as draft, it gets put in the outbox, and flagged differently so it won't be sent. I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to use repeatedly. But the only thing I have is a sent message. Erm... I thought a draft was a 'first copy' of a document/email. When you're done, you send it, and away goes the draft, as you've 'promoted' the draft email to full copy. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Fatal error in 1.60h when addressing message to non-address-book destination
Hi! I experienced the similar problems running The Bat! 1.60m, with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 When going New Message - TO: - History I got two error messages Address violation at address in module 'comctl32.dll'. and second in module 'user32.dll' While trying to enter an address not from address book I got a multiple error messages and program crashed. The only cure for that I found for now is switching to an older version of the Bat. I'm using now 1.53 Do anybody have a clue how to fix this bug fro 1.60 ? Yours, Vlad == Vladislav Petrusevich Graduate Teaching Assistant Department of Physics University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee ph# (414) 229-6163 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Thursday, May 30 2002 at 10:54 AM PDT, you wrote: The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to use repeatedly. No, that is the purpose of a Template. A draft is just that... a draft that once finished and sent is no longer valid, therefore gone. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Thu, 30 May 2002 16:24:58 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 01:54 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't A find the message there. Eventually, I find the message. Lucky guy! I was looking for a Drafts folder the first time A I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer A there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to A use repeatedly. No, a draft is a message you have drafted and will review later on, before you finally send it out. A template is what you use repetedly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Thanks Thomas and Lars -- Ben Kennish [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Thursday, May 30, 2002, 6:56:13 PM, you wrote: LG Hi Ben, LG On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 18:44:19 [GMT +0100], you wrote: BK I have tried putting -- followed by my sig but that doesn't work. BK How does the viewer decide what is a signature and what isn't? LG By a *correct* signature delimiter, which is dashdashspaceenter. LG ^^^ LG Have a look at my sig delimiter below (and mark it with the mouse) to LG see the difference. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Fatal error in 1.60h when addressing message to non-address-book destination
Hi! On Thursday, May 30, 2002, 2:22:25 PM, you wrote: I think due to the number of times this is coming up... might this not be a good idea to submit as a bug? I sent it as a bug report to RitLabs. So we will see how soon they will find a fix for it. Vlad == Vladislav Petrusevich Graduate Teaching Assistant Department of Physics University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee ph# (414) 229-6163 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Fatal error in 1.60h when addressing message to non-address-book destination
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Vlad Petrusevich wrote... When going New Message - TO: - History I got two error messages Address violation at address in module 'comctl32.dll'. and second in module 'user32.dll' While trying to enter an address not from address book I got a multiple error messages and program crashed. Are the people previously addressed, so stored in the history? The only cure for that I found for now is switching to an older version of the Bat. I'm using now 1.53 Do anybody have a clue how to fix this bug fro 1.60 ? There has been a couple of threads recently about the corruption/bad handling of the history file used when sending emails. Try disabling using the history when writing emails. Options - Preferences - System - Autocomplete from: (remove history). -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, 21:34, Jonathan Angliss wrote: Incidentally, when I type a space at the end of a sentence, how come I am unable to select that space? Space saving I think. TB! strips spaces off the end of sentences unless it is -- (dash dash space). That is correct for how the text (and spaces) shows up in the editor. However, when the mail is sent, the presence of the spaces depends on the setting of Auto Format. If it's on, all trailing spaces are removed, if set off, they are kept and the mail is sent as you have typed it, with or without trailing spaces. The signature delimiter is in some cases treated differently. I won't go into that now, search the archives one or two months back if you're interrested. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Ben Kennish wrote... I can't even select the space on the end of -- (dash dash space) Try doing it on the signiture delimiter just above my name, and you should be able to. And I can do it in the editor as well... type the dashdashspace press return, press the left arrow (should make you jump back up to the end of the last line), and you'll notice there is a space between your cursor position, and the last dash. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Hello Nick, On Thu, 30 May 2002 12:36:07 -0700 GMT (31/05/02, 02:36 +0700 GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: NA TB for whatever reason deletes trailing spaces. What you have to do, is to avoid hitting that line again. Then the space after the sig delimiter will be retained. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ever notice that PRICE and WORTH mean the same thing, but priceless and worthless are opposites? --Jay Trachman Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Dear Ben, Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 9:43:04 PM you wrote: BK I can't even select the space on the end of -- (dash dash space) I can - why are you all complaining ;-) BK Oh and I don't *need* the spaces I was just being picky! ;) Me neither ;-) -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... I'm a kike, a yid, a heebie, a hook-nose, I'm kosher ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
Hello Ben, On Thu, 30 May 2002 20:43:04 +0100 GMT (31/05/02, 02:43 +0700 GMT), Ben Kennish wrote: BK Oh and I don't *need* the spaces I was just being picky! ;) But he space was there, and the sig delimiter worked. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wear short sleeves! Support your right to bare arms! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Lost Folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi wee, @30 May 2002, 20:22:52 +0100 wee David wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to recover the lost folders? There is an undocumented keystroke of Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L that makes TB search for lost folders. Try that. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPPaDvDnkJKuSnc2gEQIiGwCeIuRhm5LcSdumo7IfPv8/YkGBnIIAmgJN /PPRZ1x6hy1JEcj5SsIE0wQB =N3T6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:35:13 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Adam, TF On Thu, 30 May 2002 16:24:58 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 01:54 +0700 GMT), TF Adam wrote: A I later click it, edit and send. But then the message is no longer A there. The purpose of a draft is that you have a template drawn up to A use repeatedly. TF No, a draft is a message you have drafted and will review later on, TF before you finally send it out. I could have a different concept in my head. The Help file seems to suggest Save as the method to accomplish this. Leaving 'Save as Draft' unaccounted for. --Help- Saving a Message for Later Changes To save the current message, select Save from the File menu. Saved messages are placed in the Outbox and the saved message is shown with an hourglass symbol in the Status column. The hourglass symbol indicates that the message is not yet completed and thus cannot be sent from the outgoing queue. TF A template is what you use repetedly. Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to select, and they don't delete first copies? -- Best regards, Adammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Adam wrote... --Help- Saving a Message for Later Changes To save the current message, select Save from the File menu. Saved messages are placed in the Outbox and the saved message is shown with an hourglass symbol in the Status column. The hourglass symbol indicates that the message is not yet completed and thus cannot be sent from the outgoing queue. That is the definition of a draft. Saving a message for finishing later ;) Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to select, and they don't delete first copies? You could create a text file, and the use edit - paste from when you compose a new message that you want to contain that text. Or just create a template with it in. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Another Address Book over Folder Templates question
Hi, This is a mailing list related template again. I am a member of a mailing list that requires both the list, and the original sender to be included on the mail (either TO the sender, or CC the sender). The list doesn't set the Reply-To tag. I setup an address book template for the mailing list for the reply to include the original sender. When I reply to the email sent to the list, it ignores the fact it came from that list, and uses the standard account formating. Without adding everybody that emails that list to my address book, is this one of those rare cases where folder templates are needed over address book templates? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to select, and they don't delete first copies? Yes, try Quick Templates. On the main menu select Options/Quick Templates and then click on the Help button. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Lost Folders
Hello wee David, On Thu, 30 May 2002 20:22:52 +0100 GMT (31/05/02, 02:22 +0700 GMT), wee David wrote: wD Is it possible to recover the lost folders? Try crtl-alt-shft-L. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf einer Packung Nuesse von American Airlines: Anleitung: Packung oeffnen, Nuesse essen. [Schritt 3: Mit Swissair fliegen] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Adam On 30 May 2002 at 16:24:58 -0230 (which was 19:54 where I live) Adam graced us with these comments I click Message/Save as Draft, then I look for Drafts folder. I can't find the message there. sarcasm You don't actually mean that there is a draft folder /sarcasm I have been asking for that for years (well at least two) A wish that there was a draft folder as I consider that messages that are draft are not the same as messages that messages that are parked in the 'outbox' - -- BBFN, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | I'm sorry -- didn't I mention it was a Betazoid wedding?| ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE89o2++Yrx5mUPRTQRAuRxAKDvvyv75BNMUw+MzYavGMBR/kxZFgCfXuPF qgRWUuC7W6ScxM6URyGjRi0= =DM4T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Access passwords for folders - newbie asking
Is there any way of setting a password on individual folders? At the moment I'm filtering mail into a separate account which is passworded, but I would like to set a password on individual folders within my main account tree. -- Thanks, Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Dear David, Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 10:38:09 PM you wrote: DE A wish that there was a draft folder as I consider that messages that are DE draft are not the same as messages that messages that are parked in the DE 'outbox' Why not? I am always confused by Outlook Express's draft folder. I have used the Outbox for a long time, when I haven't the time to answer a mail at once. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Oh please don't kill me, I wanna be in the sequel! ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, Databug wrote... I`m not sure If i get leaks but I do have WinXP. So what is all this RTV and PTV then? I assume its something view. I'm guessing Rich Text View, and Plain Text View. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?
Hello Marck, On the 30/05/2002, you babbled on about 1.60m - State of the art? MDP If you have then I think it wasn't TB leaking! It only leaks on Win2k MDP and XP - CMIIW. I like to leave theBat running all day, but after using PhotoShop and Dreamweaver, suddenly I'm down to 23% resources available! MDP Then it was one of them that leaked. TB only leaks while you are MDP *using* it. More specifically it leaks in drips every time you view a MDP message in the RTV. The simple cure for those afflicted (that includes MDP me) is to switch to PTV until the fix comes in. I`m not sure If i get leaks but I do have WinXP. So what is all this RTV and PTV then? I assume its something view. That`s all for now -- __ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ _ _ //\/ _ /\/_ __/\/ _ /\/ __ /\/ // /\/ ___/\_ _/ // / / _ / /\/ /\_\/ _ / / __ / / // / / /¸-¸\/_ // /_//_/ / /_/ / /_//_/ // // // /__ \\/\_\\_\/ \_\/ \_\\_\/\\/\\/\\/___ .this Email has been brought to you by the Databug ©. Other EMail:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nr:- 87314826 IRC Nicks:- databug, MadMango Homepage:- http://www.arkofnoah.co.uk Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
Hi Jonathan, On Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 16:32:11 [GMT -0500], you wrote: JA I'm guessing Rich Text View, and Plain Text View. Which can be found via Options - Preferences - Viewer. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?
Hello. I posted yesterday about the fact that TB! will not close (ver. 1.60m). It's been suggested to me that it's the memory leak causing this. I do use Win2k, but I'm not using HTML view at all -- in fact, I'm using plain-text view -- and yet the problem persists. It was also suggested that I suspend automated tasks such as automatic mail checking and auto compress on exit and empty trash on exit, which I also did, but TB! still refuses to close. I also get Invalid argument to date encode messages whenever I try to cut and paste text in a message. I'm open to more suggestions... Andrea in steamy Kansas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrea, @30 May 2002, 16:49:52 -0500 (22:49 UK time) Andrea Zuercher wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello. I posted yesterday about the fact that TB! will not close (ver. 1.60m). It's been suggested to me that it's the memory leak causing this. Unlikely. It is more likely to be connected to communications errors in the connection centre. If one or more hosts can't be found, you have to wait for the CC to timeout to be able to exit. ... It was also suggested that I suspend automated tasks such as automatic mail checking That's the one! and auto compress on exit and empty trash on exit, which I also did, but TB! still refuses to close. I also get Invalid argument to date encode messages whenever I try to cut and paste text in a message. Aha! Did you migrate from OE and import the WAB? This error is usually caused by importing birthdays. For some reason they knacker the TB Address book. Perhaps the incomplete task is a hidden error message somewhere complaining about the address book date format. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPPafqjnkJKuSnc2gEQIohgCffMFUZZ+T/kWl1F9FWZu9pgpSMugAnRc1 RlgqQ8djovthQZJR8AaZs5Zt =yInM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:06:28 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: and has never happened before. My question is, how does one revert to an earlier installation? By acquiring one and installing it over your current version. actually, you don't have to 'install' anything. just copy the .exe file from a previous version replacing the one for the current version. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Why not create a common Templates folder and save working copies of the messages you want to use as templates in there? -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?
Ah. It was also suggested to me (I love the passive voice!) that I try an earlier version. But when I went to the Web site, 1.60m was the only one I found available for download. This is my first run with TB! so I don't have an .exe file from an earlier version to copy in. So how would I try an earlier version? Andrea, just full of questions today | [EMAIL PROTECTED] and has never happened before. My question is, how does one revert to an earlier installation? By acquiring one and installing it over your current version. DAC actually, you don't have to 'install' anything. just copy the .exe DAC file from a previous version replacing the one for the current DAC version. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
Dear Miguel, Friday, May 31, 2002 at 12:08:20 AM you wrote: MAU Yes, I know the answer. The only way is to disable it for the whole MAU account. But that disables it also for Inbox-Known, where I do need and MAU want a sound when new mail arrives. I don't use Inbox-Known, but can't you set a specific sound on it, and cancel the sound on inbox? -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Stay thy hand, fair prince. - Who said I'm fair? ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.60l (7Ba40-6E8D5) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Dwight, so why not just make a folder called draft, and put your drafts there? If you are editing a message, how can you save it in your Draft folder? AFAIK you can only either send it or put it in Outbox parked (draft) or un-parked. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
Hello Britt, I don't use Inbox-Known, but can't you set a specific sound on it, and cancel the sound on inbox? Nope. That is exactly the problem. That you can't set or disable sound for either of them. If I disable sound in Account properties it disables sound for both, and if I enable it, it is enabled for both. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Access passwords for folders - newbie asking
Hello Kat, On Thu, 30 May 2002 21:31:18 +0100GMT (30-5-02, 22:31 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: KA Is there any way of setting a password on individual folders? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
On 30 May 2002, 23:26, Miguel A. Urech wrote: Nope. That is exactly the problem. That you can't set or disable sound for either of them. If I disable sound in Account properties it disables sound for both, and if I enable it, it is enabled for both. ~~~ I've got a Sound tab on each folder's properties. This has three options: 1. Use account settings 2. Use own sound settings 3. Sound disabled This tab also has provision for choosing a sound file. Hopefully, this will let you turn off sound for all folders, on a folder-by-folder basis, leaving sound only for the required folder. If that fails, try recording a short period of silence and use that for the folders where no sound is required. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Winamp currently playing Chris Rea - Tell me there's a Heaven Everyone has a photographic memory, some don't have film! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
Hello Geoff, I've got a Sound tab on each folder's properties. Not for you Inbox or Inbox-Known, or do you? They only have the General tab in their properties. If that fails, try recording a short period of silence and use that for the folders where no sound is required. That is exactly what I was trying a few minutes ago. But I can't assign it to the Inbox folder, I have to do it as one of the actions of the filters. It's so awkward! I hate TB when I find one of these stupid and basic limitations! I wonder why RITLabs decided that properties for Inbox and Inbox-Known must be different to the rest of the foders. Because templates are not needed for Inbox? And why not, I can open the editor and write a message while displaying the Inbox, it should then be up to me to have or not have and use or not use Inbox folder templates. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
Hello Miguel, Replying to myself? No, I just forgot to say something. That is exactly what I was trying a few minutes ago. But I can't assign it to the Inbox folder, I have to do it as one of the actions of the filters. It's so awkward! I hate TB when I find one of these stupid and basic limitations! As I said in my original message, I only need/want sound in my Inbox-Known folder. So, the easiest thing would be to disable sound at Account level and then select a Sound Action in the Known filter. But the Known filter has no optional actions! All it can do is move messages to Inbox-Known! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?
Thanks, Marck. I migrated from Outlook, not OE, but the migration was not what I would call smooth by any means. So far the only problem I've connected with the address book import is that I can't seem to edit any address book entry that I imported. That didn't seem like a show-stopper to me. But if it's related to the failure to close down, then maybe I should do something about it. The question is, what? Re: the connection centre, I have seen no problems finding my hosts (I only use two), and there isn't a visible connection timeout problem taking place in the connection centre when I'm trying to close the program. In fact, there is nothing visible at all, which makes this persistent problem quite perplexing to me. Andrea in Kansas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:54:50 PM, you wrote: MDP Unlikely. It is more likely to be connected to communications MDP errors in the connection centre. If one or more hosts can't be MDP found, you have to wait for the CC to timeout to be able to exit. ... It was also suggested that I suspend automated tasks such as automatic mail checking MDP That's the one! and auto compress on exit and empty trash on exit, which I also did, but TB! still refuses to close. I also get Invalid argument to date encode messages whenever I try to cut and paste text in a message. MDP Aha! Did you migrate from OE and import the WAB? This error is MDP usually caused by importing birthdays. For some reason they MDP knacker the TB Address book. Perhaps the incomplete task is a MDP hidden error message somewhere complaining about the address book MDP date format. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60m - State of the art?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andrea, @31 May 2002, 18:30:00 -0500 (00:30 UK time) Andrea Zuercher wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Marck. I migrated from Outlook, not OE, but the migration was not what I would call smooth by any means. You have my sympathy. It is a new procedure that came in for the 1.60 version and still has some wrinkles to iron out. So far the only problem I've connected with the address book import is that I can't seem to edit any address book entry that I imported. Ouch! That didn't seem like a show-stopper to me. But if it's related to the failure to close down, then maybe I should do something about it. The question is, what? Kill the address book and re-import it. As soon as you can. I haven't seen the import procedure at all. Does Outlook have an export procedure? Perhaps you should export to CSV and import from there. If you do so then I should point out that CSV import works best when you have a row of headings at the top of the data. I've also heard that Outlook's impression of CSV export doesn't match up to what most of us techies would call a CSV data file though, so don't take it for granted that it will work. Whatever way you look at it, the address book you're working with is clearly hamstringing TB for you and should be humanely killed at the first opportunity. Re: the connection centre, I have seen no problems finding my hosts (I only use two), and there isn't a visible connection timeout problem taking place in the connection centre when I'm trying to close the program. In fact, there is nothing visible at all, which makes this persistent problem quite perplexing to me. It may be a red herring and all of your problems stem from a bad address book. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60m-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt build 09 beta 3 iQA/AwUBPPa/iznkJKuSnc2gEQJaPQCgq6TSPaO2THuwTUHFvSctk8oLNmcAoKMg PpOJy8zF66YfL0MDyvsN5m5q =Vb36 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
Miguel- You can't send a parked file - inadvertently or no. Maybe I misunderstood what you said earlier, but I thought you wanted to have a repository of template files to use in further emails. If so, creating a Draft folder and saving them there would do the job, even if it takes a couple of steps to place them there. Back to terminology, to me a Draft is something I'm working on but can't finish at the moment - the phone rang, I've got a meeting coming up, etc. A Template would be something I've already completed and want to use as a starting point for future work. Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:41:52 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Mark, 1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. MAU Of course. And then you can export the message as a Unix mailbox and MAU import it into Eudora and there is even less risk of inadvertently MAU sending a draft. MAU The issue is saving from the Editor in a folder different to Outbox. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Colorized Signatures with Fixed Font
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... MO That is correct for how the text (and spaces) shows up in the MO editor. However, when the mail is sent, the presence of the spaces MO depends on the setting of Auto Format. If it's on, all trailing MO spaces are removed, if set off, they are kept and the mail is sent MO as you have typed it, with or without trailing spaces. I don't have autoformat enabled and the trailing spaces are removed. I've tested this. However the trailing space after the double dash isn't. That exception seems to be hard coded. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89sbIV8nrYCsHF+IRAsIYAKDZ+nIzPtVclL67VGwoIGtnxS27lQCgoFAu rx6qP6cTGMDTR6InziBJaZ8= =2fTy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Another Address Book over Folder Templates question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... JA I setup an address book template for the mailing list for the JA reply to include the original sender. When I reply to the email JA sent to the list, it ignores the fact it came from that list, and JA uses the standard account formating. Without adding everybody that JA emails that list to my address book, is this one of those rare JA cases where folder templates are needed over address book JA templates? Yes, it is. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89sjeV8nrYCsHF+IRAkccAJ4tn99QbYnWYBv6UYGHb02ViwVmBQCfZLm0 zqbi7OCFVujYUvlzSLoOGeo= =JOuv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?
It seems that Marck D Pearlstone said ... M Kill the address book and re-import it. As soon as you can. I haven't M seen the import procedure at all. Does Outlook have an export M procedure? Perhaps you should export to CSV and import from there. If M you do so then I should point out that CSV import works best when you M have a row of headings at the top of the data. I've also heard that M Outlook's impression of CSV export doesn't match up to what most of us M techies would call a CSV data file though, so don't take it for M granted that it will work. I had a reason to do this a week or two and I eventually got it to work with only minimal editing. The problem is that I did it so many times that I forgot how I got from one place to the other. I remember experimenting with which fields were output and what they were called when they were output. I might have taken it to or thought Netscape and at one point it was an LDIF. When I finally got the file imported, all I had to do was tinker with the groups (they didn't import at all). Sorry Andrea and Marck -- I just don't remember which steps I took or in which order. I do remember that it wasn't neat or easy. Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -- Bill Blinn, Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 5/30/2002 at 8:47 PM Technology Corner on Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Direct: 614-785-9359 Fax: 630-604-9842 http://wtvn.blinn.com http://www.wtvn.com Random thought: TEAMWORK means never having to take all the blame yourself. -- Anonymous Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... That is exactly what I was trying a few minutes ago. But I can't assign it to the Inbox folder, I have to do it as one of the actions of the filters. It's so awkward! I hate TB when I find one of these stupid and basic limitations! MAU As I said in my original message, I only need/want sound in my MAU Inbox-Known folder. Do you *have to* use the Inbox-Known folder?? The Inbox-Known folder has no special features. In fact, you're nicely identifying its limitations. Why do you have to use it specifically? You can easily simulate what it's doing with another filter and folder. Why not create another common folder and filter messages using the address book matching criteria that exist in the filter rules setup? You can also make the filter make a sound when matches are found. Finally, disable sound for your accounts. Instead of making the filter make the sounds you could also configure the folder to make a sound when it receives messages and disable sounds elsewhere. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89s0DV8nrYCsHF+IRAtsRAKCDAfy0qPdFndhLgSMuHaVpc4s2RACggLeF Mb8VcSZsel2NZwiWA0Ax6RU= =2Z+T -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Wieder [MW] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... MW Maybe I misunderstood what you said earlier, but I thought you MW wanted to have a repository of template files to use in further MW emails. If so, creating a Draft folder and saving them there would MW do the job, even if it takes a couple of steps to place them MW there. Why not use Quick templates instead? - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89tdMV8nrYCsHF+IRAkE0AJ9WPfOdFziOuTohype0RPkyCjYNmACeKLji 3TXJiwkMJWJJxoXlghHDmVw= =QVFo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 31 May 2002 at 9:06 a.m. Marck wrote: MDP If you have then I think it wasn't TB leaking! It only leaks on Win2k MDP and XP - CMIIW. I am afraid that I have serious doubts about this. I am also running 98 and since upgrading to v.m have been experiencing *weird* problems similar to some of those mentioned by others. Sometimes the TB! window doesn't re-draw properly and dialogue boxes etc sometimes *hang around* in a kind of shadow state for a few seconds after closing them. This can be menu lists or anything which generally stay behind as a white square/rectangle for a short time before finally disappearing as they should. I am also getting many access violation errors from TB! - all of which has only started since installing the new version. Is it absolutely certain that these so-called leaks do not affect Win 98? regards Carren PGP public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Key_Body=Please20send20key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.30 Comment: As long as one keeps searching the answers come Comment: ... but sometimes they are a long time coming! :-) iEYEARECAAYFAjz22TUACgkQyogQhPvf03MARQCfZxhh1P2TV2aVbtufyc9RRxXT x60An3Zae8zHQaILBNN/5Y9k2HGrAZj/ =8MUk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
Hello all, Yes, I know the answer. The only way is to disable it for the whole account. But that disables it also for Inbox-Known, where I do need and want a sound when new mail arrives. Actually, the way I have my incoming filters set up no message ends up in Inbox. Why do I want to disable sound then? OK, assume this scenario. I want/need to modify some of my Incoming filters so that if a message is addressed to one of, or any number and combination of, let's say to A, B and C, a copy of the message must go to the corresponding A, B and/or C folders. It is clear then that I must test for each recipient in a separate filter, right? So what's the problem? Incoming filters *force* you to move the message to a folder, even if it is Inbox itself, right? So, how can I set up my filters? Easy. What I do is set a filter to test for A and, if preset as a recipient, _move_ to Inbox, _copy_ to folder A and allow to continue processing with other filters. Great! That way, the next filter in sequence can test for B in the same fashion, the next for C, etc., and then I add a last one that tests for A .OR. B .OR. C and delete the message if any is present. Great! It works! What's the problem then, Miguel? Well... that when a message is moved from Inbox to itself, the bell IINNNS and I only want the bell to call my attention when a message if filtered into Inbox-Known. Any suggestion? TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Opening threads for reading
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ray Dawson [RD] wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... RD For instance, in the Shortcuts editor / Folder Pane Pop-Up it has RD 'move to next unread' set as both Ctrl-Alt-Right and Ctrl-Right. RD But Ctrl-Right just moves the cursor between words to the right. RD This is by default, without me changing anything. You need to focus on the message list when using CTRL-Right to navigate the menu list. If you're focused on the message body, it will do as you say. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60m | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE89sXbV8nrYCsHF+IRAhO5AKDLW5hh30LNiFwegtcyvg6udSh2MQCaAsgp buQ89rfQANf/npjy+xMiE70= =UciS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Display glitches in m
Hello Julius S., On Sun, 26 May 2002 22:41:20 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Monday, May 27, 2002, 9:41:20 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Julius S. wrote: Hi there, Greg and Allie, Sunday, May 26, 2002, 10:12:58 PM, you wrote: GS Hello Allie, GS Sunday, May 26, 2002, 8:56:35 PM, you wrote: JS How do we get Rich Text? ACM By going into View/Preferences/Viewer and selecting Rich Text Viewer. GS Isn't that Options/Preferences/Viewer and selecting Rich Text Viewer? Yep, Found it in OPTIONS on my version M too. Turned it on. Now really confused: If Editor can't permit Rich Text composition , what's point of only Viewer being so enabled?? Groan!!! So that we can read the stuff OTHER people send to us who are continuously being vulnerable to worms etc etc by using outlook and outlook express. As far as I am concerned I use text for sending and anyone wanting to use DOC, RTF, and other bloated or dangerous formats should compress or / and attach the things. In fact most of it being send to me I never see unless senders are known to me in advance... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Drafts
1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. Thursday, May 30, 2002, 3:20:08 PM, you wrote: MAU If you are editing a message, how can you save it in your Draft MAU folder? AFAIK you can only either send it or put it in Outbox parked MAU (draft) or un-parked. -Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello David Elliott, On Thursday, May 30 2002 at 01:38 PM PDT, you wrote: A wish that there was a draft folder as I consider that messages that are draft are not the same as messages that messages that are parked in the 'outbox' That is one concept I wish RITLabs would adopt from Becky. I use the Drafts Folder all the time... find it extremely useful. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Weird extension
Hello Markus Gloede, On Tue, 28 May 2002 15:28:57 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, May 28, 2002, 8:28:57 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Markus Gloede wrote: Hi, Ask your correspondents to add a creator specific extension to their files before they send them to you (even though the extension aren't needed in a MacOS environment), e.g. they should add .doc to MS Word files. If possible they should also check if they can set their mail programs to omit the resource fork (that's the part you don't need). And remember that certain formats on the Mac may not be readable on the PC unless the file is created to be read on the PC. Also sometimes a new release may be out on one system and not on another. I remember a case where a friend had to fly to the nearest place in Thailand to get a pirate copy of the latest pagemaker 7 so he could read the files which had just been send to him... Locally in his village v7 wasnt in stock... When you send files between platforms better make sure the person getting the files can read them... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Mark, 1. Save as Draft. 2. Click on the parked message in your Outbox. 3. Drag it to your Draft folder. 4. When asked if you want to move parked messages, click Yes. Of course. And then you can export the message as a Unix mailbox and import it into Eudora and there is even less risk of inadvertently sending a draft. The issue is saving from the Editor in a folder different to Outbox. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Newbie puzzlement
Just to confirm what the experts have said, Nigel: You download the International Language Pack. Then run/install the .exe file Then in New messages-Options-Language-Select British English. I too needed their advice to fix this. Good luck! Paul - Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...A person who can smile when things go wrong has found someone to blame it on. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Drafts
Hello Adam, On Thu, 30 May 2002 17:24:41 -0230 GMT (31/05/02, 02:54 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: TF A template is what you use repetedly. A Could I create messages that can be Reused? And I just click them to A select, and they don't delete first copies? Yes. I have such messages in a Common Folder. You can call this folder Drafts or Templates, as you wish. I click on the message I need, it opens, I hit Redirect. Now I can work on the headers, like choosing an account this should be sent from, and the From/To addresses. Don't forget to delete the Follow-up-to headers if the original was an incoming message. Then, I alter the body to my heart's content, and out the message goes. With the unaltered original still in the Common Folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Don't use no double negatives. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60m under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: How can I disable sound for Inbox ??
On Thursday, May 30, 2002, 10:55:07 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: It's a reasonable work-around IMO. Or do you insist on using a premade trash folder to do what you wish? I'll have to think about it. I've never complained about all the extra inbox-knowns hanging around, but an extra trash folder seems like a nuisance. Editing all the filters which put stuff in the trash folder now won't be lots of fun, but it's a one shot deal. It does seem desirable to have the settings available for the folders TB creates the same as the ones we create ourselves. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com