Re: Copy mail folder view to other folders

2002-07-01 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit

At 28.06.2002 14:57, Julian Knight wrote the following:

 Hello Jakob, on 28/Jun/2002 you wrote:

 I  have a desire to change the view of all new folders created (and 20
 or  so old folder views) with a new one I just created (remove message
 parking, flagging, change order of columns, change width etc.).

 Ah  yes,  I  agree with this - particularly as a new user playing with the
 settings.

 If this can't be done now, how about a feature request?

Feature request sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .


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Norwegian translation

2002-07-01 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit

I  am  currently working on a norwegian translation (in nynorsk) of The Bat!
Anyone  want to proofread my results when I'm done in a week or two? Anybody
else norwegian in here?

Perhaps someone would have the same source as I've got and translate it into
bokmål or samisk?

Quite a bit of text to edit, though (~70Kb :)


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Re: Copy mail folder view to other folders

2002-07-01 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit

At 28.06.2002 15:06, Tim Musson wrote the following:

 My   MUA  believes  you  used  The  Bat!  (v1.60q)  Educational  to  write
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  on  Friday, June 28, 2002
 at 6:16:14 AM.

JBG I  have a desire to change the view of all new folders created (and 20
JBG or  so old folder views) with a new one I just created (remove message
JBG parking, flagging, change order of columns, change width etc.). How on
JBG earth  can  I  make  this change be distributed to other folders of my
JBG choice (I want an other view of sent, drafts and trash)?

 I think you have 2 options... 1. Set them individually

What I do now.

 2. Use the folder property (select the folder and Alt+Enter) and check the
 'Use the account default column settings'.

Aha, but how do I change the 'account default column settings'?


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Re: Stuck Messages

2002-07-01 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Michael,

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:33:38 -0400GMT (1-7-02, 3:33 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

MR I'm having occasional problems with messages not being read by The
MR Bat! The log message is:
MR   6/30/2002, 21:24:55: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last
MR   commands sent were: LIST, RETR 1)
  
Might be an unstable connection.

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Re: Copy folder views

2002-07-01 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Jakob,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 03:07:15 +0200GMT (1-7-02, 3:07 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JBG When having defined a column view (width, selected columns) I like, how do I
JBG copy this view to the other 50 folders?

You can't.
However you can set 'Use the account default column settings' at the
folder properties. When you've set this for all relevant folders, you
can change one of them and all of them are changed. (Provided they're
in the same account.)

BTW this amounts to the same as you were told in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So I wonder how often
you're gonna ask this again. ;-)

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Re: Copy folder views

2002-07-01 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit

At 01.07.2002 11:21, Roelof Otten wrote the following:

 Hallo Jakob,

 On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 03:07:15 +0200GMT (1-7-02, 3:07 +0200GMT, where I
 live), you wrote:

JBG When  having  defined  a column view (width, selected columns) I like,
JBG how do I copy this view to the other 50 folders?

 However  you  can  set  'Use  the  account default column settings' at the
 folder  properties. When you've set this for all relevant folders, you can
 change  one  of them and all of them are changed. (Provided they're in the
 same account.)

Ah! Good enough until they (eventually) implement my feature request :-).

 BTWthisamountstothesameas   you   were   told   in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  and in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  So  I  wonder how often you're
 gonna ask this again. ;-)

Just  a bummer. I couldn't locate my first post of this question and assumed
it had been lost. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks for the help to all of you! You solved my problem.


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Yahoo bounces my mail (may be OT)

2002-07-01 Thread John Phillips



Hello fellow Bat! fans.

Apologies if OT, but cannot post to TBOT.

Yahoo has been receiving soft and hard bounces (whatever they are

Last error message is No MX or A records for bigpond.com 

What does this mean?

Bigpond.com is the largest isp in Australia.  Any clues how to fix this?

TIA


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Re: Yahoo bounces my mail (may be OT)

2002-07-01 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

John Phillips wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Yahoo has been receiving soft and hard bounces (whatever they are

 Last error message is No MX or A records for bigpond.com 

 What does this mean?

This means that Yahoo is unable to determine to which IP address they
should forward/deliver mail that is intended for addresses @bigpond.com.

 Bigpond.com is the largest isp in Australia.  Any clues how to fix this?

I checked and there are in fact entries (of the A and MX type) for
bigpond.com:

bigpond.com.3600MX  10  extmail.bigpond.com.
extmail.bigpond.com.3600A   144.135.25.8

The MX DNS entry tells us that mail for bigpond.com is handled by
extmail.bigpond.com and this server can be reached under 144.135.25.8.

This seems to be a problem on yahoo's side, there's not very much you can
do. Hopefully they might get the DNS resolving in a better shape
eventually. In the meantime you might try sending mail to
username@[144.135.25.8] but I'm not sure if this works.

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Re[2]: Getting rid of annoying bleep?

2002-07-01 Thread Julian Knight

Hello Allie, on 29/Jun/2002 you wrote:

JK Is there any way to turn off the annoying bleep that is given when
JK an attempted connection fails?

ACM You do this by making TB! not attempt a connection whenever you're not
ACM online.

ACM Go to menu - Options/Network and Administration

ACM Enable the following options:

ACM - - 'Dial Up Connection' - and choose the relevant one from your list if
ACM necessary.

ACM - - 'No automatic dial for periodic checking'

ACM - - 'Use an existing dialup connection (if any)'


Ah, sorry, I can't do this as I don't want dial-up, I am often (but
not always) on a LAN and when I am on dial-up I need to keep full
control of when I dial up as I have many things to do. Because of
this, I always use LAN connections.

Another post has suggested an alternative which I will try, thanks for
the response.

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Re[2]: Getting rid of annoying bleep?

2002-07-01 Thread Julian Knight

Hello Thomas, on 29/Jun/2002 you wrote:

JK Is there any way to turn off the annoying bleep that is given when an
JK attempted connection fails?

TF I have a key HKCU / Software / RIT / The Bat! / BeepMode (which is set
TF to 0 (zero). I am sure I don't hear any beeps.

TF If all else fails, apply pliers to speaker cable. ;-)


Thanks for the reply, I've actually set TB! to check manually at the
moment but I will try your suggestion.

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Re[2]: Looking for an SMTP server

2002-07-01 Thread Julian Knight

Hello Miguel, on 30/Jun/2002 you wrote:

MAU Hello Jonathan,

 I don't know of any other smtp servers for windows except
 Deerfield's (or at least was their's) MDaemon.

MAU Mercury/32, which is FREE, is more than just an SMTP server. It is a
MAU full MTA (SMTP, POP, IMAP) with powerful filtering and content
MAU checking, mailing list, etc. May seem a bit complex to set up at first
MAU but, once setup, it runs beautifully. It's been running for me 24
MAU hr/day for a year without a single glitch.

MAUhttp://www.pmail.com/whatsnew/new_m32.htm

MAU MailTraq4free (limited to 4 users) is also quite powerful MTA and
MAU should be simpler to set up just as an SMTP server. As some of you may
MAU know, I use it as Mail2News and News2Mail router. It add a 1 line tag
MAU at the end of all messages.

MAUhttp://www.mailtraq.com/mailtraq4free.html

MAU For those using Windows 2000 Pro, it already includes an SMTP Service.
MAU Take a look at HELP at \%systemroot%\help\mail.chm (where %systemroot%
MAU usually is C:\WINNT)


AFAIK, The Windows 2k/XP SMTP service is part of IIS rather than
Windows itself (you get the personal version with Pro, the full versions are available 
for
server). However, I cannot easily recommend installing this unless you
are prepared to stay on top of the many bug fixes for Windows/IIS
because of the number of security problems.

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Re: Yahoo bounces my mail (may be OT)

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello John,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:21:11 +1000 GMT (01/07/02, 17:21 +0700 GMT),
John Phillips wrote:

JP Last error message is No MX or A records for bigpond.com 

JP What does this mean?

I would ask Bigpond.

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Re: Copy mail folder view to other folders

2002-07-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jakob,

@01 July 2002, 11:06:11 +0200 (10:06 UK time) Jakob Breivik Grimstveit
[JBG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 2. Use the folder property (select the folder and Alt+Enter) and check the
 'Use the account default column settings'.

JBG Aha, but how do I change the 'account default column settings'?

Easy! Pick any folder that subscribes to the default settings and make
your changes there. All folders set to follow the defaults will change
to follow the changes you make.

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Re: help

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Michael,
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 19:39:58 GMT, you wrote:

 Right. I did send it to the list server, but I unfortunately also sent
 it to the list. I was sending from my TBUDL box, and I had set it to
 automagically add the list's addy if I forgot to. I was outwitted by
 my own idiot-proofing, once again proving one of those pithy sayings
 about making things idiot-proof. Sorry, all.

*waits for Marck's comments on folder templates* ;)

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Re: Attribution Line in Replies and Forwarded Messages etc.

2002-07-01 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Chris,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, June 29, 2002 at 1:16:14 PM.

CW Should I try this on the TBTech lish?

Probabily.

CW If so, how do I sign up?

See the links in at the bottom of each msg that goes to the list.

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Re: help

2002-07-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@01 July 2002, 06:40:35 -0500 (12:40 UK time) Jonathan Angliss in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 ... I was sending from my TBUDL box, and I had set it to
 automagically add the list's addy if I forgot to. ...

 *waits for Marck's comments on folder templates* ;)

Yeah - what he said! ;-).

BTW - Jonathan - while you're here... does Sylpheed handle 'JA' style
quotes okay? Or does it prefer straight ''?

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SSL Authentification

2002-07-01 Thread Gary Lucas

Hi,   Monday, July 01, 2002 08:57

  My university internet service decided to go to SSL/TSL verification.
  I setup TB for TSL authentification and all seemed well. I was logging
  in and authenticating in that mode. But, on the official switchover
  I now fail, the server responds--login only available under a layer.

  Can someone explain what this means?  And can TB handle it?

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Re: How to set up an autocomplete for a mail list?

2002-07-01 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 7:11 PM on Sunday, June 30, 2002 you wrote the following
about [How to set up an autocomplete for a mail list?]:

MDP [...] The advantage of Mass mailing over Group mailing
MDP is that Mass |mailing will create an individual mail to
MDP every member of the group, |resolving personalising
MDP touches at the point of creation. Group |mailing will
MDP not do this. [/...]

  Are there other personalizing touches besides greeting by
  name, title, address, etc. that I'm not aware of?

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Re: How to set up an autocomplete for a mail list?

2002-07-01 Thread Mike Apsey

Jan,

JR   Are there other personalizing touches besides greeting by
JR   name, title, address, etc. that I'm not aware of?

I, for one, do not like everybody I send multiple-copy mail to to also
see the e-mail addresses of everyone else in the mailing, as a matter
of courtesy.

I wish more people would honor that. *That* is an important part of
personalizing touches you have overlooked and the suggestions will
help that issue as well.

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Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server

2002-07-01 Thread Tim Musson

Hey alists,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, June 29, 2002 at 12:03:35 PM.

awc but i did have to switch it to port 26. I don't know if it uses
awc my ISP SMTP or not.. the address was my machine name LG and
awc port 26.  Now I am curious! Does anyone here know?

Let's see, you switched 'it' to port 26...  Assuming that was in TB.
If so, TB connects to your local SMTP server (on the same machine as
TB is running) on port 26.

Your mail is still on your machine.

Now, the SMTP software on your machine sends the mail out to another
SMTP server on the Internet - possibly the one the eMail is destined
for.  This communication is on port 25, because that is the standard,
and what the other end is 'listening' on.

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Creating a Reminder

2002-07-01 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Batpeople,

   How do I setup TB! to remind me of something on a particular date.
   Maybe through a quick template that is triggered automatically on a
   given date? How do I create such a template?

   Thanks

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Re: Creating a Reminder

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Sudip,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:17:11 +0545 GMT (01/07/02, 23:32 +0700 GMT),
Sudip Pokhrel wrote:

SPHow do I setup TB! to remind me of something on a particular date.
SPMaybe through a quick template that is triggered automatically on a
SPgiven date? How do I create such a template?

The only way is to create a bogus address book entry and set the
birthday to the desired date. Enable Birthday Notification.

A more elegant solution would be to use the Windows Scheduler.

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Re: Creating a Reminder

2002-07-01 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Thomas,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:44:08 +0700 GMT (Jul 01, 22:29 my time),
you [TF] wrote:

TF A more elegant solution would be to use the Windows Scheduler.

Hmm maybe it'll be considered OT, but could you please elaborate a bit
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Re: Creating a Reminder

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Sudip,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:41:21 +0545 GMT (01/07/02, 23:56 +0700 GMT),
Sudip Pokhrel wrote:

TF A more elegant solution would be to use the Windows Scheduler.

SP Hmm maybe it'll be considered OT, but could you please elaborate a bit
SP further

Under Windows 98:

My Computer / Scheduled Tasks / Add...

f'up2:tbot.

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Re: How to set up an autocomplete for a mail list?

2002-07-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

@01 July 2002, 11:19:01 -0400 (16:19 UK time) Jan Rifkinson [JR] in
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Pearlstone:

MDP ... Mass mailing will create an individual mail ... resolving
MDP personalising touches at the point of creation ...

JR   Are there other personalizing touches besides greeting by name,
JR   title, address, etc. that I'm not aware of?

Well, anything you like really. I have been know to subject the
address book to many abuses. Registered users of some of my software
have their keys hidden in the Memo field and I can paste that into a
mass mailing with the %ABtoMemo macro. By abusing other fields, I can
hide all sorts of personal information in there.

For instance, I certainly don't use any of the addition PIM type
address information and could conceivably hide names of partners and
use then constructs like this:

%IF:%ABtoFax:%-
Give my regards to %ABtoFax. I trust you are both:%-
I trust you are in good health

That's what I call personalisation!

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Re: Creating a Reminder

2002-07-01 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Sudip,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:41:21 +0545GMT (1-7-02, 18:56 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

TF A more elegant solution would be to use the Windows Scheduler.
SP Hmm maybe it'll be considered OT, but could you please elaborate a
SP bit further

Create a batch-file like this:
c:\progra~1\thebat~1\thebat.exe /mailu=my-account;to=myaddress;c=c:\texts\reminder.txt

Create a schedule in the Windows Scheduler to run this batch-file

Create a reminder.txt for the text of your reminder.

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Re: How to set up an autocomplete for a mail list?

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Marck,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:38:17 +0100 GMT (01/07/02, 23:38 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

JR   Are there other personalizing touches besides greeting by name,
JR   title, address, etc. that I'm not aware of?

MDP %IF:%ABtoFax:%-
MDP Give my regards to %ABtoFax. I trust you are both:%-
MDP I trust you are in good health

MDP That's what I call personalisation!

Well, well. I still say I can tell a personalised mass mailing from
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what is it 1.60qp3?

2002-07-01 Thread Seleccion.Net

 lunes, 01 de julio de 2002
 4:16:47 pm
http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb160qp3.rar

What is this???

QP3..



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Re: what is it 1.60qp3?

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Monday, July 01, 2002, Alexis Haeringer wrote...

 ,-= [  ] =-
 | Hello Tbbeta!

[snip]

But hasn't 1.60q been out for a while?  That one has P3 on it... I'm
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Re: what is it 1.60qp3?

2002-07-01 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Seleccion.Net,

 What is this???

 QP3..

The Bat! 1.60q Post-release 3.

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Re:Stuck Messages

2002-07-01 Thread Michael Rudnick

Roelof,

Unlikely. It's a DSL line. Additionally, If I try to download again,
it gets stuck on the same message each time. Finally, I only started
having this problem recently. It might be when I went to 1.60q or
1.60m or maybe 1.60c. I can't remember.

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Monday, July 1, 2002, 5:14:16 AM, you wrote:
RO Hallo Michael,

RO On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:33:38 -0400GMT (1-7-02, 3:33 +0200GMT, where I
RO live), you wrote:

MR I'm having occasional problems with messages not being read by The
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MR   6/30/2002, 21:24:55: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last
MR   commands sent were: LIST, RETR 1)
  
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Re: what is it 1.60qp3?

2002-07-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Seleccion.Net,
On Monday, July 1, 2002 at 16:17:28 [GMT -0400], you wrote:

SN http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb160qp3.rar
   

SN What is this???

This is a beta, as you can see from the location of the file. The
details have been posted to TBBETA and you should subscribe there to get
involved in RITlabs' development process.

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Re: what is it 1.60qp3?

2002-07-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Miguel [M],

On 01-07-2002 22:28, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M The Bat! 1.60q Post-release 3.

The plot thickens...

First Ritlabs have 1.60
Then 1.60 q
Now 1.60 q p3

What will be next? 1.60 q p3 Wed (for Wednesday)?

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Re[2]: what is it 1.60qp3?

2002-07-01 Thread Alexis Haeringer

Bonjour Jonathan,

Lundi, le 1 juillet 2002 à 15h28 [GMT -0500] (ce qui correspond à
22h28 ici où j'habite), Jonathan Angliss =[JA] a écrit à Alexis Haeringer :
JA assuming maybe patch 3?


no comment about bug, it's secret de polichinelle ...

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Re: help

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Marck,
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:02:22 +0100, you wrote:

  *waits for Marck's comments on folder templates* ;)
 
 Yeah - what he said! ;-).

Hehe ;)

 BTW - Jonathan - while you're here... does Sylpheed handle 'JA' style
 quotes okay? Or does it prefer straight ''?

If you mean, does it put JA when I reply... no it doesn't seem to do that, it
just comments those to, like  JA instead.  Might be something I'll be the
developers over if I get some time ;)  I'm running on two versions back, so it
could be possible, it may already be in there.  Its not a bad client, one of the
better GUI based ones I've found for linux.

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Re: Selective Download w/ Mail Dispatcher

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Douglas,
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0500, you wrote:

 When using Selective Download to kill selective messages on the
 server:
 
 A).- Do the messages containing the selected string(s) appear in the
  list of messages waiting to be downloaded when using the Mail
  Dispatcher?
 
 B).- Or are they killed on the server automatically and therefore
  don't appear on the list of messages waiting to be downloaded?

It's an odd situation I guess... looking at it from one point, the mail
dispatcher might not see it because the selective downloads filter runs first...
but then look at it from another angle, and the mail dispatcher should show it
because that should run before any filters are run.  So at a guess... I'd thing
that the mail dispatcher would not show messages that are matched in the
selective downloads filter because (in my theory):

1) Mail dispatcher connects to server, reads *all* messages, and content to get 
  headers etc for displaying for you to review.

2) Selective download filter kicks in because the mail has been read for   
downloading.

3) Any matches on 2 get deleted.

4) Mail Dispatcher pops up.

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Selective Download w/ Mail Dispatcher

2002-07-01 Thread Douglas Hinds


Second Time Sent:
(Rephrased)

When using Selective Download to kill selective messages on the
server:

A).- Do the messages containing the selected string(s) appear in the
 list of messages waiting to be downloaded when using the Mail
 Dispatcher?

B).- Or are they killed on the server automatically and therefore
 don't appear on the list of messages waiting to be downloaded?

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Re: Selective Download w/ Mail Dispatcher

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Douglas,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0500 GMT (02/07/02, 08:44 +0700 GMT),
Douglas Hinds wrote:

DH When using Selective Download to kill selective messages on the
DH server:

DH A).- Do the messages containing the selected string(s) appear in the
DH  list of messages waiting to be downloaded when using the Mail
DH  Dispatcher?

I didn't try it, but this is what someone just said. Apparently, the
despatcher shows all messages and the filters aren't applied yet.

The filters will only be applied when you start downloading messages.

Don't quote me on this, better test it by yourself. I'm just repeating
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Re: Stuck Messages

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Michael,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:31:21 -0400 GMT (02/07/02, 03:31 +0700 GMT),
Michael Rudnick wrote:

MR Unlikely. It's a DSL line. Additionally, If I try to download again,
MR it gets stuck on the same message each time. Finally, I only started
MR having this problem recently. It might be when I went to 1.60q or
MR 1.60m or maybe 1.60c. I can't remember.

I had this once. I don't know why, one particular messages wouldn't
download. I deleted it from the server with another tool, and have
never had any problem again.

No explanation, I know. I cannot understand the technical reasons why
a message can cause a connection to break (and broken it was, also in
your case; as you are on DSL it was not your connection to the
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Re: Stuck Messages

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Thomas,
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:17:14 +0700, you wrote:

 I had this once. I don't know why, one particular messages wouldn't
 download. I deleted it from the server with another tool, and have
 never had any problem again.

If it is the same message all the time, did you try downloading said message via
a different mail client?  See if that has the same issue?  It could be possible
it contains a character in the body somewhere that TB! is miss-reading some how,
and dropping the connection (like the old nuke commands where you could remotely
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Re: Re[2]: Selective Download w/ Mail Dispatcher

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Douglas,
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:25:08 -0500, you wrote:

 That seems to be what is happening. (I was getting several
 attachments daily containing virus from the same source, although
 the From address, Subject  attachment name would vary. What
 didn't vary was an address contained in the headers which I
 Kill filtered on). I was hoping someone could confirm that. IAC,
 after setting up the filter, no further messages containing virus
 (and all of them did) from the above source have shown up on
 the Mail Dispatcher (and the one that got though earlier when I
 neglected to de-select the Receive box was quickly caught by AVG's
 free email watchdog, whose The Bat! plugin works perfectly).

Was that common address in the headers a reply-to field by any chance?  I've had
several Klez-H viruses hit our mail servers with the reply-to headers set.  I've
contacted the person recently, as we got about 30 so far from him.

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Re: Stuck Messages

2002-07-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:37:03 -0500 GMT (02/07/02, 11:37 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

JA If it is the same message all the time, did you try downloading
JA said message via a different mail client?

No, but I telnetted into my POP server at port 110 and everything
seemed OK.

JA   See if that has the same issue?

I cannot run any further tests on this - the message was deleted about
a year ago! It was a one-time occurrance anyway, and I didn' t give it
much thought. After all, I am working under Windows, so... ;-)

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Re: Stuck Messages

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Thomas,
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:43:28 +0700, you wrote:

 JA If it is the same message all the time, did you try downloading
 JA said message via a different mail client?
 
 No, but I telnetted into my POP server at port 110 and everything
 seemed OK.

I have a habbit of doing that when issues arrive, good old plain text viewing,
and no client to get in the way ;)  Just your own typoes.

 JA   See if that has the same issue?
 
 I cannot run any further tests on this - the message was deleted about
 a year ago! It was a one-time occurrance anyway, and I didn' t give it
 much thought. After all, I am working under Windows, so... ;-)

Understood.  Maybe what may be an idea for Michael would be to try a different
client, and if it comes through fine, then maybe check for unusual characters
that may possibly cause an issue.  If nothing obvious, then forward himself (in
TB!) using the special forward, see if the same email causes the same issue
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Re[2]: Selective Download w/ Mail Dispatcher

2002-07-01 Thread Douglas Hinds


Jonathan Angliss reasoned in relation to my query:

 When using Selective Download to kill selective messages on the
 server:
 
 A).- Do the messages containing the selected string(s) appear in the
  list of messages waiting to be downloaded when using the Mail
  Dispatcher?
 
 B).- Or are they killed on the server automatically and therefore
  don't appear on the list of messages waiting to be downloaded?

JA ... the mail dispatcher might not see it because the selective
JA downloads filter runs first...

JA 1) Mail dispatcher connects to server, reads *all* messages, and
JA content to get headers etc for displaying for you to review.

JA 2) Selective download filter kicks in because the mail has been read for   
JA downloading.

JA 3) Any matches on 2 get deleted.

JA 4) Mail Dispatcher pops up.

That seems to be what is happening. (I was getting several
attachments daily containing virus from the same source, although
the From address, Subject  attachment name would vary. What
didn't vary was an address contained in the headers which I
Kill filtered on). I was hoping someone could confirm that. IAC,
after setting up the filter, no further messages containing virus
(and all of them did) from the above source have shown up on
the Mail Dispatcher (and the one that got though earlier when I
neglected to de-select the Receive box was quickly caught by AVG's
free email watchdog, whose The Bat! plugin works perfectly).

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Freezes when deleting a folder with a lot of mails

2002-07-01 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer

Hello The Bat! ML,

  I just deleted (not wiped, but moved to trash) folders with 3000
  mails (or about that much) and TheBat often freezed after finishing it
  (I had to kill it and restart it).

  The same thing happend when emptying the trash (which holded then more
  then 30.000 mails).

  When wiped, nothing happend.

  Furthermore, it sometimes gave me strange Exception warnings.
  Especially when I then deleted the message filters for those
  directories. The Exception came when I clicked on the Filter where the
  directory was missing and when I deleted it. BUT not when did not
  clicked it (still the book was open so the msg was selected). Then
  there was also no exception when I deleted it.

  Can anyone reproduce this ?

Best regards, Clemens
written with TheBat! 1.60q
on Windows 98, 4 10
Build   A 
on Tuesday, July 2, 2002 at 7:12:12 AM



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Re: OT: PGP Sig Check (was: Re[2]: Selective Download w/ Mail Dispatcher)

2002-07-01 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Jonathan Angliss,

In Reference to your Posting on Monday, July 01 2002 at 09:56 PM PDT,

 Okay, this is a little OT on this thread... but I cannot seem to work
 out if my mail client is attaching a signature file, or actually signing
 it like TB! does?

There was no in-line signature for the message I am replying to, but there
was an application/pgp-signature attachment for the previous message.

 If Sylpheed is attaching the signature as a file, I'll turn it off,
 because I know that you're not really allowed attachments on this list,
 otherwise I think I'll leave it on.

Only problem is, there are so few have Clients that can handle PGP/MIME
signatures, so there really isn't much use in signing your messages unless
they are to Linux-specific Mailing Lists.

 As TB! doesn't yet have a plug-in for PGP 7, is it worth changing, or
 bugging maybe Ritlabs for an updated plug-in?  Or even getting the
 source, and coding my own?

Been there... done that... and it's not going to happen because NAI would
never release what RITLabs required in order to write the Plugin. My
suggestion would be to go with PGP 6.5.8ckt as it not only has a current
Plugin for TB, but it has more features than PGP 7.0.3/4 including PGPDisk.


- -- 
Nick Andriash
Courtenay, B.C. Canada

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2 (Windows 98) - GPGshell v2.30

iD8DBQE9ITn92usvuTvKfdIRAtBkAKCIx5NOqb1o3BXnB9wuQ3H/BnMm0wCgwRFb
etaZAm8gHWBOtw/DGI/Ho4M=
=BIKI
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



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Re: PGP code

2002-07-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Dierk,
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:48:29 +0200, you wrote:

   This picks up a comment by Nick Andriash from another thread:
 
  Been there... done that... and it's not going to happen because NAI would
  never release what RITLabs required in order to write the Plugin. My
  suggestion would be to go with PGP 6.5.8ckt as it not only has a current
  Plugin for TB, but it has more features than PGP 7.0.3/4 including PGPDisk.
 
   To clear that further - and bring it out of conversational limbo
   land -, a few days ago, it seems, NAI (McAfee) announced to not
   follow development of PGP because it does not pay off.
   Nonetheless, the code won't be published, was an additional comment
   by them.
 
   The most advanced (and always endorsed by me) version will be Imad
   Faiad's 6.5.8ckt with his own TB! plug-in.

Thanks for the info... I may look into downgrading if it is worth integrating in
the pgp signing etc. I had noticed on the PGP International site [www.pgpi.com]
that NAI had released an SDK for PGP, but when I attempted to download, all the
links were broken.  As for NAI saying it's not profitable, aren't they using it
within their McAffe E-Business servers, and firewalls?  It sounds very typical
to me of a large corporation pulling off a small company, taking their ideas,
bleeding them dry, then kicking them out.  But that is my opinion ;)

Thanks for the info anyway, I'll look into downgrading if it is worth it... I'm
assuming PGP6.5.8 can still read the PGP7 key files?

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