Received time should be rectified
Hi TB users, Recently I found a problem when using TB. We need to handle emails according to the time frame. Say, I will need to reply to the emails arrive at our mail server from 9am to 3pm, my workmate needs to reply from 3pm to 10pm. Since we are using the same mail server, if we can divide the emails by the time when they arrive at our mail server, that will be perfect. Unfortunately, TB doesn't support this feature. TB won't show the time when the email arrives at the POP3 server. There are two types of time listed in TB, Received and Created. Personally, I don't think that Received time is necessary since it just indicates the time when you download the emails from your POP3 server, thus, it only depends on your frequency of fetching emails from server. And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. What I concern most is we need a unique and precise ruler to divide the emails by time frame(I think we can use the time when the emails reach our POP3 server 'cuz that time is by all means the same for me and all my workmates), but apparently, TB doesn't cover this feature. This problem exists in both the current former version v1.62r, and the latest Beta 11 which I'm now using. I wonder if the current Received time could be rectified to the time when the emails arrive at the mail server. The Created time should remain. Thanks for the great work of TB programmers. I really love TB and that's why I want it to be the perfect. -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't delete?
From time to time I can' t delete any e-mails and have to delete the entire account and create a new one, this is driving me insane, any way to fix this? Patricia Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
Hallo Joe, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:16:40 +0800GMT (21-7-03, 9:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JL I wonder if the current Received time could be rectified to the JL time when the emails arrive at the mail server. The Created time JL should remain. That wouldn't be a rectification. After all you receive the message when it's in TB's Inbox, not when it's arrived at a certain server. However, you could use a high frequency to check your mailbox. Though I wouldn't care for myself to check more than once in five minutes, you could check for new mail every minute, that way keeping the received time at the server and the client practically the same. However, since you're dividing the mailflow between two people, the best way to divide the mail would be to use the same mailbox at the server and when your shift is done let your TB logoff. That way the messages that you don't download are for your colleague. When you're using the same pc, it's even easier since TB marks messages that are replied to... -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
Hallo Scrat, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 03:30:04 -0400GMT (21-7-03, 9:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: S From time to time I can' t delete any e-mails and have to delete S the entire account and create a new one, this is driving me insane, S any way to fix this? How often do you purge and compress your account? How often do you optimize your hard disk? When's the last time you ran scandisk? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
One way to solve the problem is checking mail quite often (5 min in my case), but this works if you have a permanent connection. Otherwise, I think the headers (kludges) might help you. Below are the headers of your mail received [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mail arrived at 10:24 in my mailbox, and was sucked g by The Bat! at 10:29. To filter the messages, you'll need a macro. A RegEx one. Good luck :) JL Received: from gundel.de.clara.net ([212.82.225.86]) JL by mail.mfinante.gv.ro (Lotus Domino Release 6.0) JL with SMTP id 2003072110241724-4925 ; JL Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:24:17 +0300 -- Ciprian A peeping Tom is a guy who is too lazy to go to the beach. [snip] JL TB won't show the time when the email arrives at the POP3 server. JL There are two types of time listed in TB, Received and JL Created. Personally, I don't think that Received time is JL necessary since it just indicates the time when you download the JL emails from your POP3 server, thus, it only depends on your JL frequency of fetching emails from server. And the Created time JL is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out JL the email. [/snip] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 10:37:12 PM, MikeD wrote: So I will never use a black list to determine spam. So far I am still trying to get something bayesian that will work for me. I have hopes for the new bayesian plug-in for TB. Does anyone have any more information on this plugin? For instance, a web page, who is working on it, if it's been released yet? Thanks. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Received time should be rectified
Hi Roelof, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, at 09:45:47 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:45 where I live) you wrote: RO you could check for new mail every minute, that way keeping the RO received time at the server and the client practically the same. Thanks. But I want it technically the same. RO However, since you're dividing the mailflow between two people, the RO best way to divide the mail would be to use the same mailbox at the RO server and when your shift is done let your TB logoff. That way the RO messages that you don't download are for your colleague. Actually there are in all five people...:(... They will all receive the emails sent to a specific mailbox, and they handle the emails by time frame. The biggest problem is that not all of my workmates are using TB, some are actually using OE(or Outlook), which could display the time when the emails arrive at our mail server. I've been trying to pursuade them to use TB, and two of the 5 are using TB now. The others just stick to the MS client. I really hope this problem could be fixed technically. Thanks anyway Roelof! :) -- Best regards, Joe Lee A fan of The Bat! in domain name industry - Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Flagging folders possible?
Hello. I use TB with quite a lot of folders that incoming mail is automatically sorted to on arrival. If a message requires further action from me I usually use the little red flag to flag it for attention. What I am wondering is this - is there a way to make a folder show that there is a flagged message in it, perhaps by having the colour change, or bolding, or something? At the moment I either have to make sure the message remains marked as unread, to bold the folder, or go through all the folders to check for flagged messages. I realise this is probably a minor thing, but it would be such a help for me. It such a thing possible? Many thanks for any thoughts offered. Peter in New Zealand Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Power Pro
What is Power Pro ? -- Ciprian Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Audiac, @19-Jul-2003, 19:31 +0200 (18:31 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So I will never use a black list to determine spam. So far I am still trying to get something bayesian that will work for me. I have hopes for the new bayesian plug-in for TB. A Does anyone have any more information on this plugin? For A instance, a web page, who is working on it, if it's been released A yet? Right now all is unofficial since it is built for TB 1.63, which is currently deep in beta testing. Only 1.63 has plug-in support for spam processing. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxvC9znkJKuSnc2gEQLZygCfTEoC/Sk+e6RriDWdX0p9+myhmHkAoJVc JJwgVRvpGRERAJTw+S9Doa+E =JTOX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Pro
Hi Ciprian, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:28:08 +0300 Ciprian Trofin wrote: What is Power Pro ? Well, is it really _that_ hard to use a search engine? I'm really astonished ... http://www.google.com/search?q=PowerPro | --- http://www.windowspowerpro.com/ -- Ciao, Pit Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 CT What is Power Pro ? It's a bit of kit that allows you to make menus and button bars to control your apps, send key strokes to windows, run macros, lots of stuff. I am certainly unqualified to tell you all about it and I'm sure someone else will pipe up soon. But in the meanwhile, hie thee over to http://www.windowspowerpro.com/ and have a look for yourself. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... What is a free gift? Aren't all gifts free? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPxvDBNttnLhkydF1EQKECwCfR5AEQTmFekZyRD0jPfhao+Go1vYAn0KW ygfxQPaUIWuPkI5ZmyB+thgC =8kOm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PP Well, is it really _that_ hard to use a search engine? I'm really PP astonished ... Helpful, but not that friendly. Monday mornings aren't designed for harshness. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... 6.66% 5 year APR for HP Beast, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBPxvF/dttnLhkydF1EQKFWQCguyIyz5EboPDMs+zmR3n193XZ+dYAoMsA ao4ujA0+egesJS1NzbwJjpha =Ird9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Pro
What is Power Pro ? PP Well, is it really _that_ hard to use a search engine? I'm really PP astonished ... PP http://www.google.com/search?q=PowerPro PP | PP --- http://www.windowspowerpro.com/ I'm sorry I offended you. I tried Power Pro (2 words); the result was something like fishing equipment. -- Ciprian Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Flagging folders possible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Ballantyne, [PB] wrote: PB I use TB with quite a lot of folders that incoming mail is PB automatically sorted to on arrival. If a message requires further PB action from me I usually use the little red flag to flag it for PB attention. What I am wondering is this - is there a way to make a PB folder show that there is a flagged message in it, perhaps by having PB the colour change, or bolding, or something? Uhm, no. This functionality isn't supported. PB At the moment I either have to make sure the message remains marked PB as unread, to bold the folder, or go through all the folders to PB check for flagged messages. I realise this is probably a minor PB thing, but it would be such a help for me. There is an alternative. It's not as elegant as You could move the messages you need to attend to, to a special holding folder. When you've replied you can either move them manually to the specific folders they really belong to, or you can use replied filters to do this. Creating the replied filters would involve copying all the relevant inbox filters to the replied message filter set and make the source folder in all the copied filter rules, the same as your special folder. It will work though it will require a little setting up. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxvOVlfJ62ArBxfiEQKeyQCg9b3Q1vrsa7NJzdZ1k/ixVQ8tqKYAn2DV XEDK5kV9+hI+CRba7eUS/k28 =rPAw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciprian Trofin, [CT] wrote: CT What is Power Pro ? What it is can be found at its homepage: http://www.windowspowerpro.com/ - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxvOrlfJ62ArBxfiEQJThQCgxmf9mDRBRzpLzJlvnNYltXjV6rYAoMCR ceMjt6ednr1usmRDx6Ac9aVQ =xlSI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Pro
Hi Ciprian, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:25:03 +0300 Ciprian Trofin wrote: Well, is it really _that_ hard to use a search engine? I'm really astonished ... I'm sorry I offended you. I wrote I'm *astonished*, not 'offended'. I tried Power Pro (2 words); the result was something like fishing equipment. If that happens to me (getting a search result I don't expect) I try changing the term of search. Concatenation, extending the term to be more precise, quotes around whole phrases, etc. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+Bat%21%22+Power+Pro Gives as first hit a message in power-pro message list archive, hosted at Yahoogroups. Following this link, going to Home for this list gives a description of the list which mentions the PowerPro homepage as well. But that's enough How to Google lecture right here on TBUDL, this topic rather belongs to TBOT :-) -- Ciao, Pit Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Power Pro
On Monday, July 21, 2003, 1:40:59 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP Well, is it really _that_ hard to use a search engine? I'm really PP astonished ... Unfortunately, not everyone has instant access to the web browsing. Take me, for example. I can send/receive mail, but as for browsing the net, I am very limited. So sometimes I also have to ask such simple questions and I am very thankful when a kind soul is willing to fill up the things lacking in me. :-) -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Attached%20key ~~ Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? (Isaiah 40:26) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
Hello Joe, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:16:40 +0800 GMT (21/07/03, 14:16 +0700 GMT), Joe Lee wrote: And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. Your POP server should receive the mail just a few minutes after the Created time. So you could all agree to use the Created time as your cut-off time. It will only create problems if the sender's computer is set to a wrong time (off by hours or even years). I have experienced this only on few occasions, and I would think that you can find a pragmatic solution for those cases, if they don't happen regularly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature Verification in GnuPG seems to be useless
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafi Avital, [RA] wrote: RA Trying to verify the signature on a signed+encrypted message I RA receive. TB responds with the following error in a window: RA gpg: verify signatures failed: unexpected data RA I admit this is exactly what happens when I try to verify this with RA GPG.EXE on the command line. However, this kind of verification works RA perfectly with Eudora. Was it an in-line encryption/signature or was it PGP/MIME? RA (I am not looking for trouble or advertizing Eudora, in fact I don't RA even like it that much which is why I'm considering TB. I am just RA reporting the facts as I see them). Sure, no problem. Indicating that you don't have a problem with the message using another client does provide useful information. RA This leads me to believe that there is a way to verify signatures RA properly with GnuPG. Using the plug-in, it should work without problems. Have you tried verifying other signatures using the plug-in? My signature here would be a good example of one to try. RA In fact I have recently implemented something like this in an RA application I was working on at work, in the following way: snip RA So my questions are: RA 1. Does TB have such capabilities with external programs? You can exported message text and then, through a batch script have external programs process the text. RA 2. Are you able to verify signatures in TB? N.B. using GnuPG, not the RA internal OpenPGP engine. You can use the GnuPG plug-in that TB! provides, or a GnuPG GUI frontend such as GPGShell. They make things a lot easier with signing and verifying signatures using GnuPG. You can have a look here for details: http://www.landscreek.net/gpg_pgp_tb.html RA 3. When decrypting, TB prompts me for the id - somehow it doesn't RA want to assume that the recipient (on the TO: line for a received RA message) should be the UID to look for in the keys in the keyring. Interestingly, it doesn't really matter what you type in the ID field. Just type in the correct passphrase. What happens when you decrypt is indeed peculiar. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA+AwUBPxv1n1fJ62ArBxfiEQJUbgCeN8QW51gMuLDOVHOTyfzoPhmgDgIAliO8 Ws4BvOMA9t66ynR82cwnvuI= =6cEA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Received time should be rectified
Hello Perhaps you could configure your mail server to allow Imap access? In this way, messages aren't actually downloaded, so your coligue could have access. Steve Monday, July 21, 2003, 3:45:47 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Joe, RO On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:16:40 +0800GMT (21-7-03, 9:16 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: JL I wonder if the current Received time could be rectified to the JL time when the emails arrive at the mail server. The Created time JL should remain. RO That wouldn't be a rectification. After all you receive the message RO when it's in TB's Inbox, not when it's arrived at a certain server. RO However, you could use a high frequency to check your mailbox. Though RO I wouldn't care for myself to check more than once in five minutes, RO you could check for new mail every minute, that way keeping the RO received time at the server and the client practically the same. RO However, since you're dividing the mailflow between two people, the RO best way to divide the mail would be to use the same mailbox at the RO server and when your shift is done let your TB logoff. That way the RO messages that you don't download are for your colleague. RO When you're using the same pc, it's even easier since TB marks RO messages that are replied to... -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Symantec: Antivirus question
Hello TBUL, Friday, July 18, 2003, 7:10:56 PM, you wrote: My company has a corp version of Symantec AV 8.1 can that be used with The Bat and how? -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
How often do you purge and compress your account? How often do you optimize your hard disk? When's the last time you ran scandisk? I never purge and compress the account, didn't t know I should, I have it set up to delete all trash when I close The Bat! but I supposed this purge and compress is something different? I optimize once a month. I run scandisk once a month also. Patricia Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
On Monday, July 21, 2003, Scrat wrote... How often do you purge and compress your account? How often do you optimize your hard disk? When's the last time you ran scandisk? I never purge and compress the account, Select a folder, go to Folders, View Deleted Messages. Your emails aren't really deleted, they are just flagged as deleted and hidden from view. purge/compress removes them from the message base complete. I have it set up to delete all trash when I close The Bat! but I supposed this purge and compress is something different? Again, if you go to Trash, and then Folders and View Deleted Messages, you're likely to find it has more mail in it than you though. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Patricia, @21-Jul-2003, 13:27 -0400 (18:27 UK time) Scrat said: How often do you purge and compress your account? How often do you optimize your hard disk? When's the last time you ran scandisk? ... I supposed this purge and compress is something different? Very much so. Deleted or purged messages are only flagged Do not show. They still exist and take up space in the mailbase. Only once you compress a folder is the space they take up released back to the system. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxwkUjnkJKuSnc2gEQLjQACfWCYQaQLIPb0X3tvOMTjA7n4TnT8An0C4 d32tsgmvtMJmAU+AY/fVER1E =3Jzj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
Select a folder, go to Folders, View Deleted Messages. Your emails aren't really deleted, they are just flagged as deleted and hidden from view. purge/compress removes them from the message base complete. Thank you very much, I will try this, hopefully it will fix my problem! Patricia Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
On Monday, July 21, 2003 @ 11:01:52 AM [-0700], Auke Beerschoten wrote: I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. You can ask as rudely/nicely/frequently as you'd like but as with everything else in life, you'll need to take responsibility and do it yourself. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Matt Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Can't delete?
Monday, July 21, 2003, 1:35:12 PM, Marck wrote: M Very much so. Deleted or purged messages are only flagged Do M not show. They still exist and take up space in the mailbase. M Only once you compress a folder is the space they take up M released back to the system. What is the difference between Purge Compress? I just chose Purge from the menu, and the dialog said it was compressing. I'm using 1.62r. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
2 Strings in one Rule does not work?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! I have a little problem with filters, I have made one Rule with just one String in it, and it was warking OK. Then I have added one more string in that Rule, and now, it looks like this: Strings:Location:Presence: [EMAIL PROTECTED]RecipientYes [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sender Yes Then, I click on Inbox, and go to Folder - Re-filter, but second string does not working? Does this mean that I have to have one string per Rule, because there is Add function in Rule tab, to add more strings for just one Rule. Thanks in advance. Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 - -- Best regards, ChaKy | ICQ: 96731865 http://www.apartments-cakelic.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxw3OrDri1HNC0yJEQJVCQCg1Pcrly+27BEvgNl3B2HjnTYbBsEAnAlB yl2uJt3pecLtLmaoll65OCjh =GKfs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 21, 2003, 2:36:38 PM, Thomas wrote: And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. Your POP server should receive the mail just a few minutes after the Created time. So you could all agree to use the Created time as your cut-off time. Nope. Created time is time when user wrote the message - user doesn't have to send that message until hours after created time, and therefore your server won't receive the message for hours after created time. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPxwoirgeqlQz+rfkEQIBwQCgyd9LPKGFTrR3Dgzm5OajLneFf/kAn1Bu ccc04lJVxQaMt/qUvYORSoFX =aE6d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, July 21, 2003, 9:16:40 AM, Joe wrote: Unfortunately, TB doesn't support this feature. TB won't show the time when the email arrives at the POP3 server. There are two types of time listed in TB, Received and Created. Personally, I don't think that Received time is necessary since it just indicates the time when you download the emails from your POP3 server, thus, it only depends on your frequency of fetching emails from server. And the Created time is just the time of the sender's computer when he/she sends out the email. This pisses me off with TB too. In all mail clients before TB, I sorted my mail by time of arrival - time of arrival on server. If I sort in any other way, by time created or by time received, I always seem to read replies to messages before messages themselves. TB seems to be the only e-mail reader which can't display messages the way they're received on the server... which is the same as downloaded from the server... which is the same as written to TB message base. P.S. No, I don't want to sort by threads. I also can't fetch mail every minute since I'm on dial-up... Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPxwoA7geqlQz+rfkEQJurQCcCXaAs///1NKKNvmdQcFHIOJThHMAoLDg u/4/5tm3M2Lj8VnIh/VfUAf3 =ziZI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. Patricia At 02:50 PM 7/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
On Monday, July 21, 2003 @ 11:59:08 AM [-0700], Scrat wrote: How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. He has it set to auto-reply to the TBUDL list so every message we send, he replies. A HORRIBLE way to solve a problem that he could so easily take care of on his own. I have him filtered off to /dev/null. -- Matt Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
On Monday, July 21, 2003, Scrat wrote... How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. That would be because it's an auto-responder, he's not doing it, he's sending mail to /dev/null, and bouncing a message. As he is being ignorant to instructions it might just be better for a moderator to drop the address. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Flagging folders possible?
Hello Allie, Monday, July 21, 2003, 11:28:15 PM, you wrote: AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AM Hash: SHA1 AM Peter Ballantyne, [PB] wrote: PB I use TB with quite a lot of folders that incoming mail is PB automatically sorted to on arrival. If a message requires further PB action from me I usually use the little red flag to flag it for PB attention. What I am wondering is this - is there a way to make a PB folder show that there is a flagged message in it, perhaps by having PB the colour change, or bolding, or something? AM Uhm, no. This functionality isn't supported. PB At the moment I either have to make sure the message remains marked PB as unread, to bold the folder, or go through all the folders to PB check for flagged messages. I realise this is probably a minor PB thing, but it would be such a help for me. AM There is an alternative. It's not as elegant as AM You could move the messages you need to attend to, to a special holding AM folder. When you've replied you can either move them manually to the AM specific folders they really belong to, or you can use replied filters AM to do this. AM Creating the replied filters would involve copying all the relevant AM inbox filters to the replied message filter set and make the source AM folder in all the copied filter rules, the same as your special folder. AM It will work though it will require a little setting up. AM - -- AM -= allie_M =- | List Moderator AM _ AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- AM Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 AM iQA/AwUBPxvOVlfJ62ArBxfiEQKeyQCg9b3Q1vrsa7NJzdZ1k/ixVQ8tqKYAn2DV AM XEDK5kV9+hI+CRba7eUS/k28 AM =rPAw AM -END PGP SIGNATURE- AM AM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: AM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Oh, that's a shame. Never mind. Think I'll look at your suggestion of using a special folder. For some the attention is other than replying to the email, so I'll need to manually move them to the right folders after actioning them. I might offer my humble suggestion as a possible feature request. You never know. My grateful thanks for your replies. Peter in New Zealand Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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Fwd: Re: I've Asked Several Times
On Monday, July 21, 2003, 3:13 PM, you wrote: JA On Monday, July 21, 2003, Scrat wrote... How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. JA That would be because it's an auto-responder, he's not doing it, he's JA sending mail to /dev/null, and bouncing a message. As he is being JA ignorant to instructions it might just be better for a moderator to JA drop the address. I might also add, you can always send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
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Re: I've Asked Several Times
Hello Auke, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. It's really very simple and has been answered many times. Just click on the link at the bottom of any mail here. In case you don't know the one I mean it is : http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Once on the page go to Unsubscribing or Adjusting your Subscription and there you go. then you don't have to send any more petulant auto responses to irrelevant threads ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
Hello Matt, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. He has it set to auto-reply to the TBUDL list so every message we send, he replies. A HORRIBLE way to solve a problem that he could so easily take care of on his own. I have him filtered off to /dev/null. I've just sent him a very polite but personal mail explaining how to do it! -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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Re: How to import adresses from outlook
Hi Gerrit: GK Hello all, GK i am trying to import my adresses from outlook into the Bat but have GK not found so far the best way. If i look in the file it is all there GK but in my adresbook i only get names. I have set colums to import to GK yes and sekect First-, middle-, lastname and email. GK Any ideas what goes wrong? Try Dawn. http://www.joshie.com/projects/dawn/ I used it to transition from Outlook. Some mapping involved, though. - Ricardo Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Flagging folders possible?
On Mon 21-Jul-03 6:04am -0400, Peter Ballantyne wrote: If a message requires further action from me I usually use the little red flag to flag it for attention. What I am wondering is this - is there a way to make a folder show that there is a flagged message in it, perhaps by having the colour change, or bolding, or something? No, but I do something similar - color code message I plan to respond to later. Message Finder (F7) can then be used to locate all this messages when I'm ready to respond. To make this quick, I use a PowerPro hotkey to bring up the specially marked messages and a I use a Replied Messages filter to mark them normal after I've replied. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I've Asked Several Times
Hello Richard, Monday, July 21, 2003, 1:08:12 PM, you wrote: I've just sent him a very polite but personal mail explaining how to do it! I don't think your message will be read!! ;-) -- Thanks, Terry Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
Hello Terry, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think your message will be read!! ;-) Correct so I've already set him up in a kill filter ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Re: I've Asked Several Times
On 21 July 2003, 20:46, Paul Cartwright wrote: JA That would be because it's an auto-responder, he's not doing it, he's JA sending mail to /dev/null, and bouncing a message. As he is being JA ignorant to instructions it might just be better for a moderator to JA drop the address. I might also add, you can always send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ I sent this clown a private message telling him how to unsubscribe. That also got an auto-reponse telling me that my message was deleted unread. My only option now appears to be to send a LART via his upstream provider ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I procrastinate, therefore I will be. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: I've Asked Several Times
On Monday, July 21, 2003, 3:25:49 PM, Terry G. Munson wrote: I've just sent him a very polite but personal mail explaining how to do it! TGM I don't think your message will be read!! ;-) I also sent a polite message and was informed that it was deleted unread. Perhaps his Internet provider will read their abuse mail and help their customer pick up a clue. -- Best regards, Robert Braver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I've Asked Several Times
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I've Asked Several Times
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Non-response Notification
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Please Note
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I've Asked Several Times
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Re: I've Asked Several Times
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @21-Jul-2003, 14:13 -0500 (20:13 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Scrat: How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. JA That would be because it's an auto-responder, he's not doing it, JA he's sending mail to /dev/null, and bouncing a message. As he is JA being ignorant to instructions it might just be better for a JA moderator to drop the address. It might, but I can be as childish as the next guy when riled. I've put the guy on moderated and written him a shirty private mail. So he'll still get all the message but his posts won't get through anymore. I'll probably let him out in a couple of days once I get over the indignation at the level of ignorance shown :-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxxgdznkJKuSnc2gEQKqyACgluI3CQNuAdT/VYqlh3coLNRTUvUAnjKr CnuABkfDW6FFg0HT/n1t0bdQ =V8/m -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I've Asked Several Times
Hello Matt and other TB! listers following this idiotic thread, On Monday, July 21, 2003 at exactly 2:09:21 PM, Matt wrote about Auke's multiple message titled I've Asked Several Times and said the following: MT On Monday, July 21, 2003 @ 11:59:08 AM [-0700], Scrat wrote: How many times it this person going to send this! I've counted at least 6 - 8 times now. I just killed 18 at once on the server. MT He has it set to auto-reply to the TBUDL list so every message we send, MT he replies. A HORRIBLE way to solve a problem that he could so easily MT take care of on his own. I have him filtered off to /dev/null. I too have his messages marked for deletion on the server using Selective Download. Maybe I was irked more than some of you by the callous and senseless non-solution he chose, which instead of resolving his problem, only complicates it all the more, while creating one for the rest of us on top of that, and creating more than a few enemies for himself. So, I sent him the following letter, directly. After sending it, I went to the sent directory, selected the message and hit shift+F6 a lot of times, which resends the message. After sending it a dozen times, I selected all of them at once and did it again a couple of times. (I guess he got me somewhat peeved). Douglas Hello Auke: Not only are you too stupid to unsubscribe, you are stupid and above all inconsiderate enough to antagonize a thousand TBUDL subscribers who have done you no harm whatsoever, many of whom have even bothered to send you detailed instructions explaining how to to do that which you are evidently too stupid to do on you own: unsubscribe (which I did last week in order to change my subscription's email address, with no problems at all). AB I've asked several times to be removed/unsubscribed AB from the mailing list, but I keep receiving mail anyway. AB They'll all be deleted unread from the server, and this AB autoresponse will be sent until my name is removed. BTW, I'm using an account that no longer exists to send this with, and I'm sending you as many copies as the stupid letter you've been flooding TBUDL with. GROW UP! Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, @21-Jul-2003, 14:49 -0400 (19:49 UK time) Dave Kennedy [DK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: M Only once you compress a folder is the space they take up M released back to the system. DK What is the difference between Purge Compress? I just DK chose Purge from the menu, and the dialog said it was DK compressing. 'Purging' is what happens on exit, when folder retention options are enacted ... Keep in message base for ... n days or when the maximum number of folder messages is exceeded. In these cases, the folder is purged and not compressed. When you choose Purge from the menu, both operations are performed. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxxhCDnkJKuSnc2gEQIELACdGaAVNbUeLlgQh68s41hZm+nclYsAoMGv wg0dJXBhc5Zh5QPB8M0FAbvx =+jj2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Signature Verification in GnuPG seems to be useless
Allie, Thanks for the reply, quite informative (and my compliments on the document in the link you gave me at landscreek.net, it helped me a lot). On Monday, July 21, 2003, 9:15:57 AM, you wrote: AM Was it an in-line encryption/signature or was it PGP/MIME? I probably didn't make this clear, and I'm probably not using the right terminology: What I'm trying to do is verify the signature on a message that was created by someone else, which was Encrypted AND signed by the author. I have his public key. Eudora, in this situation, lets me verify that the signature is valid, i.e. that I have a key in my keyring, with the fingerprint of the key that the author used to encrypt and sign. I was looking for the same functionality in TB. It seems that all TB does is issue a gpg --verify which produces the error I mentioned. From your description and everything else I've read, it looks like that is only good for checking a signature in a .sig file, a detached signature, not embedded in the encrypted message. Sorry for the confusion. AM You can exported message text and then, through a batch script have AM external programs process the text. If TB lets me actually launch an external program or batch file, to which I can pass parameters like the To: From: and contents of the message, I should be able to roll my own and write a program that performs this verification, until Ritlabs does it right. Thanks again and best regards Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 Strings in one Rule does not work?
On Mon 21-Jul-03 2:56pm -0400, ChaKy wrote: I have a little problem with filters, I have made one Rule with just one String in it, and it was warking OK. Then I have added one more string in that Rule, and now, it looks like this: Strings:Location:Presence: [EMAIL PROTECTED]RecipientYes [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sender Yes When you place two strings in the same rule they form an AND relationship - both must be true. If you're trying to filter this list, use the instructions that came when you registered. BTW, this response was BCC'd to the list. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Flagging folders possible?
Hello Bill, Tuesday, July 22, 2003, 8:19:50 AM, you wrote: BM On Mon 21-Jul-03 6:04am -0400, Peter Ballantyne wrote: If a message requires further action from me I usually use the little red flag to flag it for attention. What I am wondering is this - is there a way to make a folder show that there is a flagged message in it, perhaps by having the colour change, or bolding, or something? BM No, but I do something similar - color code message I plan to respond BM to later. Message Finder (F7) can then be used to locate all this BM messages when I'm ready to respond. BM To make this quick, I use a PowerPro hotkey to bring up the specially BM marked messages and a I use a Replied Messages filter to mark them BM normal after I've replied. That's an interesting idea. Thank you Bill, I might just look into that. -- Kind regards, Peter Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 Strings in one Rule does not work?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bill, @21-Jul-2003, 16:47 -0400 (21:47 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BM If you're trying to filter this list, use the instructions that BM came when you registered. BM BTW, this response was BCC'd to the list. ... an act that the list doesn't feel comfortable with and asks for moderator's intervention, which is why this posting was delayed. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxxodTnkJKuSnc2gEQKOmwCgs0UTF+stFJTRzkSm5q1X9T3+lCEAnRn4 zw5PVrQ+cLq/yufatmDvsnk5 =gPCv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
re Rafi Avital
Hello tbudl, I sent a message directly to Rafi this is his response. I have sent an unsubscribe email to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] four times over the course of the last 3 days. I do not want to be on the mailing list - that should be clear by now. Though his method pissed us all off he may have a point. -- Best regards, Danger mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
On Monday, July 21, 2003, 23:51:48, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: It might, but I can be as childish as the next guy when riled. I've put the guy on moderated and written him a shirty private mail Be careful, he might complain at your ISP... I've had problems with this a few times, and I once almost lost my account because I wrote a bit heated message to a guy who was spamming a mailing list. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ 1. Anything you try to fix will take longer and cost more than you thought. 2. If you fool around with a thing for very long you will screw it up. -- Bryson's Law of Repairs Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:re Rafi Avital
Folks, Excuse me, but I have NEVER sent the message referenced under the title re Rafi Avital - I know better than that. Besides I have just subscribed a few days ago, still find quite a lot of useful info in this list, I have no reason to unsubscribe. My apologies if this clarification causes even more confusion, just want to be clear, I have never sent that message. Thank you and best regards to all Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
At 01:29 AM 7/22/2003 +0200, you wrote: On Monday, July 21, 2003, 23:51:48, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: It might, but I can be as childish as the next guy when riled. I've put the guy on moderated and written him a shirty private mail Be careful, he might complain at your ISP... I've had problems with this a few times, and I once almost lost my account because I wrote a bit heated message to a guy who was spamming a mailing list. Unlikely. He was spamming the list and I doubt that his email provider would approve. As you can see, the domain grouppac.com is just a virtual domain on cp.net's mail server. For those in the US, cp.net has a toll-free number 877.441.PATH . I nearly called them myself to complain. inbound.grouppac.com.criticalpath.net claims to be host smtp.c011.snv.cp.net Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:re Rafi Avital
At 06:42 PM 7/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: Folks, Excuse me, but I have NEVER sent the message referenced under the title re Rafi Avital - I know better than that. Besides I have just subscribed a few days ago, still find quite a lot of useful info in this list, I have no reason to unsubscribe. My apologies if this clarification causes even more confusion, just want to be clear, I have never sent that message. Thank you and best regards to all The spam was coming from Auke Beerschoten of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]grouppac.com . At least that's what I saw here. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re Rafi Avital
Hello Danger! On Monday, July 21, 2003, 5:36 PM, you wrote: DI sent a message directly to Rafi this is his response. These repeated messages were not from Rafi. The sender's name is Auke Beerschoten. Just thought you'd like to know, in case you hadn't noticed yet. :) Rafi seems to be a very nice guy and appreciative of the help he's been getting from his fellow subscribers. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: re Rafi Avital
Hello Mary, Monday, July 21, 2003, 8:06:23 PM, you wrote: MB Hello Danger! MB On Monday, July 21, 2003, 5:36 PM, you wrote: My mistake I apologize Rafi. Now what do we do about Auke? DI sent a message directly to Rafi this is his response. MB These repeated messages were not from Rafi. The sender's name is Auke MB Beerschoten. Just thought you'd like to know, in case you hadn't MB noticed yet. :) Rafi seems to be a very nice guy and appreciative of MB the help he's been getting from his fellow subscribers. -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS Perhaps you could configure your mail server to allow Imap access? In SMS this way, messages aren't actually downloaded, so your coligue could SMS have access. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one parts of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading posts. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for most to read and understand. Thanks. :) /moderator - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxyHLlfJ62ArBxfiEQIxmQCgvW7x4YIWU8rASRvm8bbPpK3NTucAn3bW YOSOu/KR4w46O5qUU0fFPZwW =8V30 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please Note
Hello Auke, Monday, July 21, 2003, Auke Beerschoten wrote: I have sent an unsubscribe email to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] four times over the course of the last 3 days. I do not want to be on the mailing list - that should be clear by now. Are there problems with the servers? I know there were problems doing account maintenance via the web about a month ago. If there are problems, then this obstinate behavior may be for a reason. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re Rafi Avital
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Danger, @21-Jul-2003, 18:36 -0400 (23:36 UK time) Danger [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: D I sent a message directly to Rafi this is his response. That's a shame, because it was not Rafi that wanted to unsubscribe. It was Auke Beerschoten. I have sent an unsubscribe email to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] four times over the course of the last 3 days. I do not want to be on the mailing list - that should be clear by now. DThough his method pissed us all off he may have a point. No, he does not. Four other people have successfully managed to unsubscribe without any help from me. Around two dozen folks per week leave the list (and a couple more than that join). I get one request for help per month on average. That, to me, proves that only 1 in 96 people have a problem with the unsubscribe procedure. It works fine. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxyILTnkJKuSnc2gEQLa+wCfY6tEBGxRl2l4gZzEEU1gHk3K8o0AoO8t B4KldT17PneEW4WH1Xbgm2CG =AHVY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re Rafi Avital
Hello Danger! On Monday, July 21, 2003, 7:33 PM, you wrote: D My mistake I apologize Rafi. I knew you would want to. And you had written to the correct culprit, because you quoted one of his auto-responses. D Now what do we do about Auke? Well, Ben Mills in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote at 6;48 p.m. the following, giving a phone number that I plan to use first thing tomorrow morning: For those in the US, cp.net has a toll-free number 877.441.PATH . I nearly called them myself to complain. inbound.grouppac.com.criticalpath.net claims to be host smtp.c011.snv.cp.net -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Trouble managing threads
Hello audiac, Thanks for replying to my message. Friday, July 18, 2003, 4:41:06 AM, you wrote: aica Similarly, you can right click on the folder and select mark all aica messages read. The hotkey for this is Ctrl+M. Once I've done this, how do I delete them? I'm not seing an option to delete all read messages. Again, I appreciate all your help. -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Received time should be rectified
Hello Domagoj, DK This pisses me off with TB too. In all mail clients before TB, I DK sorted my mail by time of arrival - time of arrival on server. If I DK sort in any other way, by time created or by time received, I always DK seem to read replies to messages before messages themselves. Thanks so much for posting this -- I've been racking my brain trying to figure out why my messages aren't consistently being sorted correctly. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Trouble managing threads
Thanks for replying to my message. Friday, July 18, 2003, 4:46:08 AM, you wrote: WM To delete acomplete folder: ctrl + del I don't want to delete the entire folder, just all the messages in it. If I mark all messages as read, can I then somehow delete them? I tried ctrl-del from within the folder message list, but nothing seemed to happen. Thanks again for help. -- Best regards, Stevemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Flagging folders possible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Ballantyne, [PB] wrote: PB Oh, that's a shame. Never mind. Think I'll look at your suggestion PB of using a special folder. For some the attention is other than PB replying to the email, so I'll need to manually move them to the PB right folders after actioning them. I might offer my humble PB suggestion as a possible feature request. You never know. My PB grateful thanks for your replies. Sure, my pleasure. On another note, please be mindful of excessive quotations in your reply messages. There was no need to quote my signature, the list footers and most of my post. One way of cutting down on quoting is to select the text which you wish to reply to and hit F4 or hold the shift key while hitting the reply button. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxyJ31fJ62ArBxfiEQLwrgCg2+hKOp28iK+HtHQREK6XYi8XJCkAoPSP GUR+dCjJkhLyB0LVEd+5RT4v =h2eG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re Rafi Avital
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Danger, @21-Jul-2003, 20:33 -0400 (01:33 UK time) Danger [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Mary: D My mistake I apologize Rafi. Now what do we do about Auke? We write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and complain about him mail-bombing our public access mail-reflector list. :-))). Rest assured - I have done this. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxyJ5DnkJKuSnc2gEQKohACgoQi5ebGQgkD+1gnYZJpFZ8LfQjgAn1Cq wkKPSpBs/x79R6Tjyll49n+Z =KcFC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jernej, @22-Jul-2003, 01:29 +0200 (00:29 UK time) Jernej Simoni [JS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: It might, but I can be as childish as the next guy when riled. I've put the guy on moderated and written him a shirty private mail JS Be careful, he might complain at your ISP... S'okay. I removed him, banned him and complained to *his* ISP before he had been sent a single bounce anyway. Thanks for the advice though. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPxyKLjnkJKuSnc2gEQJQVQCdGBnif1NkZ2pRCLYztioaRy9nzXwAoNon SKWV+zZ5dheV1AIhYLD48YJc =EGB8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please Note
Hello Greg, Monday, July 21, 2003, Greg Strong wrote: Are there problems with the servers? If not, I would be so kind to dump all the messages to a text file and then send them attached to his ISP's abuse email address. To provide some reasonable assurance the file doesn't get deleted on receipt I'll include them in the body of my email. I think the ISP's administrator would get the point. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature Verification in GnuPG seems to be useless
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafi Avital, [RA] wrote: RA Thanks for the reply, quite informative (and my compliments on the RA document in the link you gave me at landscreek.net, it helped me a RA lot). I'm glad you found it helpful. :) RA I probably didn't make this clear, and I'm probably not using the RA right terminology: What I'm trying to do is verify the signature on a RA message that was created by someone else, which was Encrypted AND RA signed by the author. I have his public key. RA Eudora, in this situation, lets me verify that the signature is RA valid, i.e. that I have a key in my keyring, with the fingerprint of RA the key that the author used to encrypt and sign. I was looking for RA the same functionality in TB. And there is that functionality. RA It seems that all TB does is issue a gpg --verify which produces RA the error I mentioned. There's something else wrong since while using GPG and TB! I verified, decrypted, signed and encrypted messages without problems. RA From your description and everything else I've read, it looks like RA that is only good for checking a signature in a .sig file, That's PGP/MIME and the current release version of TB! doesn't support this. However, the current TB! betas do. All my messages to this list are signed with an inline signature and are verifiable using the current TB! version you're using and GPG. RA If TB lets me actually launch an external program or batch file, to RA which I can pass parameters like the To: From: and contents of the RA message, I should be able to roll my own and write a program that RA performs this verification, until Ritlabs does it right. You shouldn't need to do this once you have the plug-in working as it should. You say you get the same error when using GPG from outside TB! which makes me wonder if GPG is correctly installed on your system. Have you tried GPG Shell? - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxyLYlfJ62ArBxfiEQJY1QCeOlT7tNCq9gXDnHLrke4pEDWwXUwAniZi dudMpjVZnfQylrvZXlFNeHfQ =Oy2q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Appology was Re[2]: Received time should be rectified
AM This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. I sincerely appologize, I definitely didn't intend to violate the list rules. AM We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which AM you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then AM below the quotation, type your response. Should responses be indented? Am I formatting this message correctly? I certainly don't want to tie up the list with this, but if someone could reply privately and let me know that this post is either formatted correctly, or incorrectly, I'd appreciate it. AM Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you AM may disagree with some of the reasoning here. I have to say that this format makes posts much easier to read. I'm just not used to it yet and for that, I appologize. Steve Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
On Mon 21-Jul-03 5:46pm -0400, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: DK This pisses me off with TB too. In all mail clients before TB, I DK sorted my mail by time of arrival - time of arrival on server. If I DK sort in any other way, by time created or by time received, I always DK seem to read replies to messages before messages themselves. Thanks so much for posting this -- I've been racking my brain trying to figure out why my messages aren't consistently being sorted correctly. Perhaps a request could be make to the wish list for a third date. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Appology was Re[2]: Received time should be rectified
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS I sincerely appologize, I definitely didn't intend to violate the list SMS rules. I didn't think so either. It's OK. Apology more than accepted. :) SMS Should responses be indented? That's purely up to you. Our main thing is with top posting. SMS Am I formatting this message correctly? Just great now. I thank you very much for your willing flexibility on the matter too. SMS I certainly don't want to tie up the list with this, but if someone SMS could reply privately and let me know that this post is either SMS formatted correctly, or incorrectly, I'd appreciate it. Ok, but I see no problem with a public response here. It's useful for those others who may not know about this. Your posting format is just fine now. SMS I have to say that this format makes posts much easier to read. Exactly, and furthermore, it's easily achieved using TB!'s editor. SMS I'm just not used to it yet and for that, I appologize. I can certainly understand that and do appreciate your cooperation on this. Thanks a lot and enjoy. - -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBPxyRH1fJ62ArBxfiEQKwhgCgin6+aRenVe5SOUlqt1K2+nMjePAAn0BD XsZ+hYKwTBd9rUys2bJRfzMp =9k+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Trouble managing threads
Hello Steve and other TB! listers following this thread, On Friday, July 18, 2003 at exactly 7:47:45 AM, Steve wrote about Trouble managing threads and said the following: SMS I don't want to delete the entire folder, just all the messages in it. SMS If I mark all messages as read, can I then somehow delete them? I SMS tried ctrl-del from within the folder message list, but nothing SMS seemed to happen. It doesn't matter if the messages are marked as read or not. All you have to do is select them and hit delete. You may get a menu asking you to confirm the deletion and it may take a while for them to disappear if you're deleting a lot of messages /or youg computer is slow, but they SHOULD delete, which puts them in the Trash folder (there's a way to wipe them directly but I don't recall the command for it) so you'll have to do it again from there (the Trash folder). You can also right click on the selected messages and select delete from the pop-up menu. If it doesn't respond, do it again - until it does what you're telling it to do. After you do this, it's a good idea to compress your folders, because otherwise the deleted messages are still taking up space in your message data base. -- Douglas Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Flagging folders possible?
Hello Allie, Tuesday, July 22, 2003, 12:48:30 PM, you wrote: AM On another note, please be mindful of excessive quotations in your AM reply messages. Opps. Sorry. Thanks for reminding me of that. -- Kind regards, Peter Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't delete?
Hello Marck, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:54:14 +0100 GMT (22/07/03, 04:54 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DK What is the difference between Purge Compress? I just DK chose Purge from the menu, and the dialog said it was DK compressing. 'Purging' is what happens on exit, when folder retention options are enacted ... Keep in message base for ... n days or when the maximum number of folder messages is exceeded. In these cases, the folder is purged and not compressed. That's not all there is. I can also manually purge. It just means I tell TB to mark those messages as deleted that are over the age limit (for example 180 days) or above the number of messages that you have set for the folder , as you say above. But it doesn't matter whether you purge on exit (which I never do) or manually. Compressing means that the messages that are marked as deleted will be actually taken off the message base. When you choose Purge from the menu, both operations are performed. And that is only because the menu has a wrong and misleading entry. Purge all folders does Purge and Compress all foldeers. I have complained about this misnomer many times. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. - THE HOTEL HAS BOWLING ALLEYS, TENNIS COURTS, COMFORTABLE BEDS, AND OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Received time should be rectified
Hello Domagoj, On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:53:13 +0200 GMT (22/07/03, 01:53 +0700 GMT), Domagoj Klepac wrote: Your POP server should receive the mail just a few minutes after the Created time. So you could all agree to use the Created time as your cut-off time. Nope. Created time is time when user wrote the message - user doesn't have to send that message until hours after created time, and therefore your server won't receive the message for hours after created time. That's true, too. Well, it depends what kind of people the senders are: companies who are online during the whole business day, or private people who dial up twice a day? We don't know this, and I (wrongly?) assumed the first. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble managing threads
Hello Steve, Friday, July 18, 2003, Steve Sawczyn wrote: I don't want to delete the entire folder, just all the messages in it. You have received several replies. I just thought I'd add a little. When you first open TB and select a folder the threads are compressed. So if you go into the message list pane and select all (Ctrl+A) it may look like you have selected all the message because they are highlighted, however you have only selected the message that are visible because most people thread by reference. On the menu see View | View threads by. So go to the message list pane and first select no threading (Alt+0) which will make all messages visible, the select all (Ctrl+A) and hit delete. Now technically you haven't actually deleted the messages because they are still in your trash folder until you compress. You can select to compress all folders on exit within an account or on an individual folder basis, or the folders manually. Depending upon the speed of your PC and the size of your message base may determine when you do the compress. I compress all accounts on exit which is set in the account properties (Shift+Cntl+P) under options. If I mark all messages as read, can I then somehow delete them? You can delete read or unread messages. I tried ctrl-del from within the folder message list, but nothing seemed to happen. See above. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I've Asked Several Times
On 21 July 2003, 22:51, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: It might, but I can be as childish as the next guy when riled. I've put the guy on moderated and written him a shirty private mail. So he'll still get all the message but his posts won't get through anymore. I'll probably let him out in a couple of days once I get over the indignation at the level of ignorance shown :-). ~~~ He's set up his auto-responder to delete messages unread. He won't see the messages from the list. Similarly, he's set up an auto-responder to delete unread any direct mail about his TBUDL subscription. When I wrote asking him to use the subscription management web page or, should that fail, ask you or Allie to unsubscribe him, I got an auto-response just like the Non-response Notifications he sent to the list. I've complained to his ISP and asked them to forward instructions for unsubscribing. -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 All I did was press this button and !£$!(()%^£%!£... Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: re Rafi Avital
On Monday, July 21, 2003, 7:33:43 PM, you wrote: D My mistake I apologize Rafi. Now what do we do about Auke? Danger, no apology necessary, Errare humanum est. Best regards Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
