Re: Connection Centre is empty but the bat cannot shut down
Hello, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 10:51:57 PM, you wrote: B Hello David, B Thursday, February 26, 2004, 10:15:18 PM, you wrote: DS I've got no connections showing in the CC and my firewall confirms no DS pending connections but I cannot shut the bat down normally. DS The dialog ' Some tasks are still active...etc' shows up. DS Would it be possible to force the bat to close with the seemingly none DS functional 'abort' button! B I normally hit Ctrl Alt Delete and put the Bat to bed in the task B manager when that happens to me. Abort tasks doesn't seem to close it B either B Barry That's what I end up doing but of course on the next restart of the bat the message list focus is lost. We need a button to shut the bat down as if it were exiting. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.04.7. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(very) trivial observation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The background colour for the tooltip on the 'Menu Navigator' button is different to that for all other tooltips. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm SE PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com There are 2 rules for success: 1. Don't tell everything you know. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQD8/UtttnLhkydF1EQLTDwCg+sEYh7GmCoKLhWQn9ZvsODMEaFsAoMt9 b3XeYQRFKyLAvh5eq7nYiVr6 =74Pv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (very) trivial observation
Hello shemming, On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:59:53 + GMT (27/02/2004, 19:59 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The background colour for the tooltip on the 'Menu Navigator' button is different to that for all other tooltips. Confirm. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.04.7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sumbission Forms
Thursday, February 26, 2004, 3:46:58 PM, George M. Menegakis wrote: Hello, Has anybody do something with submission forms? I created one using the one from help as template. The problem is I found no way to use it! I mean it is listed on Options/Sumbission Forms but I can do nothing with it except Add/Delete! How am I supposed to use it? Not even one knows how this thing works?? -- /\/\ || George M. Menegakis - System Administrator || || Centre of Communications and Networking|| || Iraklion Campus - University Of Crete || || mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], icq: 4557532 || || phone: +30 81 393 306, fax:+30 81 39 3318 || \/\/ Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sumbission Forms
Hallo George, On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:38:43 +0200GMT (27-2-04, 14:38 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Has anybody do something with submission forms? I created one using the one GMM Not even one knows how this thing works?? As far as I understood the matter, forms can only be used when both the server and the client are using TB and though TB is a superiour client, it's not something I'd recommend as a server. That means that most people aren't in the situation to use forms with TB. Hence your lack of reactions. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sending mail from IMAP account
Hi TBUDLers, I'm using the server's outbox. Approximately 1 out of every 10-15 emails will not be sent. The following is from the account log: 2/27/2004, 07:22:53: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue !2/27/2004, 07:22:53: SEND - Could not export message 2/27/2004, 07:22:53: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent I can try resending several times and it will not send. My only choice is to copy the email's contents to the clipboard, delete the email from my outbox, and create a new email. Is this a server problem? or a TB! problem? or both? -- Dave Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Stefan, On 27 Feb 2004 at 03:01:08 +0200 GMT [02:01 CET] you wrote: M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? ST No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one ST should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent ST folder's? How about the same as when I explicitly select 'no view mode' from one of the other places? -- Cheers, Andre The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending mail from IMAP account
I'm using the server's outbox. Approximately 1 out of every 10-15 emails will not be sent. The following is from the account log: 2/27/2004, 07:22:53: SEND - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue !2/27/2004, 07:22:53: SEND - Could not export message 2/27/2004, 07:22:53: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent I can try resending several times and it will not send. My only choice is to copy the email's contents to the clipboard, delete the email from my outbox, and create a new email. Is this a server problem? or a TB! problem? or both? To follow up, the problem is getting worse. Today it is happening with ~75% of sent emails. I have switched to a local outbox but that has not helped. -- Dave Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT] SpamCop
On Thursday, February 26, 2004, 8:00 PM, you wrote: M Well, I only use the first filter, the manual one. It submits the M message to Spamcop and also moves it to my Sent to Spamcop folder. I finally looked, and in my SPAM\SENT folder were 52 emails, with the subject: SPAMCOP has accepted... M Then I have added a second filter that just received the Spamcop M responses to my Spamcop responses. This folder is the one I look at M once ar twice a day and, if there are any messages, select one of them M and click on the link, etc., etc. now I remember, I used to have to do that, and it was time consuming! so I activated the second filter, to automate it! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jan2004 (4.1.342) (avast! version number) 0402-2 (25.02.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.342 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message not sent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, I attempted to send a message to TBBETA today and received the following message: ,- [ Edit Mail Message - ... on TBBETA[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | | Message has not been sent. Server reply - r mail, end with . on a line | by itself | `- What does this mean, and what could have caused it? - -- Best regards, Martin Webster http://www.martinwebster.info/ The Bat! 2.04.4 w/ BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370/; iQA/AwUBQD+WBzknq5PWREYNEQL4FgCgpOSKwy8LOt8mGQ3W7Zcp55kw7mAAni1T HLG/uCVUyxBN5IFkbRnH47Qh =Bv6e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter as Junk?
Hello tbudlers, I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the account I use on websites when I have to. I just decided that an Inbox filter of 'Sender contains @' could be used to train BayesIt with rather less effort on my part (although it gets most of them already). However, I cannot see anywhere to tell the filter to 'Mark as Junk'. Is this possible? -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message not sent
Martin Webster wrote: I attempted to send a message to TBBETA today and received the following message: | Message has not been sent. Server reply - r mail, end with . on a line | by itself What does this mean, and what could have caused it? I've seen this when TB! has sent the entire message to my SMTP server, but timed out waiting for a response. Instead of reporting a timeout, TB! reports a truncated version of the last thing it heard from the server. With my SMTP server, the message gets sent anyway. I've upped my Server Timeout setting to 300 seconds (I think it was 60) and haven't seen this since. -- George Using TB! 2.04.7 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message not sent
On Friday, February 27, 2004 @ 11:09:54 AM [-0700], Martin Webster wrote: ,- [ Edit Mail Message - ... on TBBETA[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | | Message has not been sent. Server reply - r mail, end with . on a line | by itself | `- What does this mean, and what could have caused it? That's an error message from the outgoing mail server. If you were to telnet directly to port 25 of the server and enter your commands manually (as opposed to what mail clients do for you automagically) your last command to the server to let it know that you've completed your data entry would be a . on it's own line. Sometimes you'll see this error if your connection has bogged down or disconnects. The message finally got though yes? -- Matt Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter as Junk?
Hello Allister,
Friday, February 27, 2004, 1:17:35 PM, Allister Jenks wrote:
AJ I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the
AJ account I use on websites when I have to.
You might want to try some Java script for you email for protection.
,- [ Web Page Template to hide Email address ]
| html
| head
|
| script language=JavaScript type=text/javascript
| !-- Begin
| function email(user, domain, suffix, displayname){
| document.write('a href=' + 'mailto:'
| + user + '#064;' + domain + '.' + suffix + ''
| + 'Contact\/abr');
| }
| // End --
| /script
|
|
| title/title
|
| /head
|
| body
|
| p align=centerscript language=JavaScript type=text/javascript
| !-- Begin
| email(ActualUserName, ActualDomanName, ActualDomainExtension);
| // End --
| /script
| /p
|
| /body
| /html
`-
I believe this should hide your email address on web pages from robots.
--
Best Regards,
Greg Strong
Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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Re: View Modes choices Not same
Stefan Tanurkov wrote: M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent folder's? If you uncheck that box, then the folder should revert to 'Folder specific settings' since it would not have been assigned a view mode. The folder's default should be 'the folder specific settings', IOW's, no view mode has been assigned. Another alternative would be the generic view mode which would act sort of as a default mode that the user would like a folder to have unless he specifically makes the folder use its own specific settings or a particular view mode. I do agree with the others though, that if I hit the 'Used by', I should see the list with those folders already using the particular view mode already selected. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending mail from IMAP account
ON Friday, February 27, 2004, 4:56:11 PM, you wrote: DG I can try resending several times and it will not send. My only choice DG is to copy the email's contents to the clipboard, delete the email DG from my outbox, and create a new email. Hi Dave, I have seen a similar problem but not with Imap. Try this. Open the mail and change a little thing, like add a space or change a word. Then press send again. This works for me almost all the time. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= If a golfer chooses to compete, he must choose to believe that he can win. Winners and losers in life are completely self-determined, but only the winners are willing to admit it. Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message not sent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Matt, On 27 February 2004, 11:34 -0800 ( 19:34 local time) Matt Thoene [MT] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MT That's an error message from the outgoing mail server. If you were to MT telnet directly to port 25 of the server and enter your commands MT manually (as opposed to what mail clients do for you automagically) MT your last command to the server to let it know that you've completed MT your data entry would be a . on it's own line. Sometimes you'll see MT this error if your connection has bogged down or disconnects. The MT message finally got though yes? Well I tried again and the original message still wouldn't leave my outbox... then I replied to this message and the same thing happened. The only change to my system in the past 24 hours is that I'm now trying a new software firewall. However, I'm also checking out Shareaza, which is known to congest your Internet connection... albeit I thought I had solved that one. Let's see what happens... - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.04.4 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370/; iQA/AwUBQD+lxzknq5PWREYNEQKcwwCg7q+U5NsdpPuqmlf47DgsvjTgN/EAoLGq O4cjk1oEeDcyEj+bRQIeGkFP =of61 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message not sent
MW The only change to my system in the past 24 hours is that I'm now trying MW a new software firewall. However, I'm also checking out Shareaza, which MW is known to congest your Internet connection... albeit I thought I had MW solved that one. I had not heard of Shareaza, so I checked the web site: http://www.shareaza.com/ Get the latest Shareaza 1.9 Release Candidate with a corrupt download importer, CPU usage and stability improvements, optimised verification, BT piece-picker and ED2K fragment algorithms, plus minor bug fixes. etc. corrupt download importer?? wha?? -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jan2004 (4.1.342) (avast! version number) 0402-2 (25.02.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.342 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message not sent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul, On 27 February 2004, 15:55 -0500 ( 20:55 local time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW The only change to my system in the past 24 hours is that I'm now trying MW a new software firewall. However, I'm also checking out Shareaza, which MW is known to congest your Internet connection... albeit I thought I had MW solved that one. Well it's not Shareaza... it is Sygate Personal Firewall Pro. OT PC corrupt download importer?? wha?? I think that means it can import corrupt files not that the file importer is corrupt. Apparently, Shareaza detects and fixes corruption before the download completes. /OT - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.04.4 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370/; iQA/AwUBQD+2EDknq5PWREYNEQIPKACg+fn60TRSo/O8k1PduSZIKEM57nkAnRgZ 7Km2oVU0nCNML5t8W9pQ5TBJ =qrqz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter as Junk?
Saturday, February 28, 2004, 8:37:10 AM, Greg wrote: AJ I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the AJ account I use on websites when I have to. GS You might want to try some Java script for you email for protection. I actually meant I enter that one at other people's websites when an email address is required to proceed (such as some software downloads). However, thanks for the Javascript as I think it will be very useful to me anyway! -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending mail from IMAP account
Hello Gerard, Friday, February 27, 2004, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote: Try this. Open the mail and change a little thing, like add a space or change a word. Then press send again. This works for me almost all the time. Thanks, I will give that a try next time this problem happens. However, now I'm having an even more annoying problem. On every send I get an Access Violation and the message stays in the outbox. However, it seems the message actually did get sent. -- Dave Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Stefan, Yesterday, you and I wrote: No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent folder's? Right, now I get you. H, I'll have to think about it and talk with my pillow tonight, if I ever get to bed ;-) I had a not too long talk with my pillow last night (I fell asleep) and she gave me a couple of suggestions for you ;-) What do you do when a view mode is deleted? Right, the folders that were using it are set to (No View Mode). However, since the Generic Mode can be set/defined by the user and it is a mode that cannot be deleted, I would uses this as a default to revert to. Now, what would I do (well, my pillow ;) with the Use by... dialog? 1.- Display on the Title bar the name of the View Mode that was selected prior to clicking the Use by... button. One can make mistakes when selecting the view mode :) 2.- Make this a Use/Used by (or however you want to call it) dialog. The thing is that if it is opened for a view mode that is already being used by some folders, they should appear as ticked with the check mark in the display of the folder tree and the rest of folders with a blank box. 3.- If you remove the checkmark from one or more of the folders, they should revert (be set to) Generic mode. 4.- But, what happens if you add a few folders (tick the empty box) to use this view mode and then change your mind, or notice you have ticked one you didn't really want to? You remove the check mark, right. But should this folder now revert to the view mode it was using or to Generic. I believe it should stay with the previous mode, whatever it was. 5.- But if I have added a few check marks and after scrolling up and down I remove a couple of them, how do I know what view mode will be applied to these two folders? Previous (if it was different to the one we are dealing with when I opened the Used by dialog) or Generic? Simple, use three possible states: Blank, Check mark and X. If I open the dialog for view mode A and Folder1 is checked, then that folder can only toggle from Checked to Xed and from Xed to Checked. But, if Folder2 is Blank, this can only toggle from Blank to Checked and from Checked to Blank. Then, when I click OK, the actions will be: Box is Blank - Do nothing to the folder and it will use the view mode it was using. Box is Checked - Set folder to use View mode A (the one we are dealing with) Box is Xed - Set folder to use Generic mode. I don't how and where you hold your folder tree structure, or if you build one when the Used by... dialog is opened, but the above can be easily implemented with a four column table: Folder View Mode Original state Changes Original state is what is displayed when the dialog is opened and can only be Blank or Checked and is also used to see if toggling can (should) be Blank/Checked or Checked/Xed. Changes will reflect that changes, and is the column used to take the actions when clicking OK: If Changes is Blank, do nothing and check next folder. If Changes if Checked, set folder to use view mode A. If Changes is Xed, set folder to use Generic view mode. And finally, to easily remind the user what is going to happen if he clicks OK, the three possible states (ICONS for) should be displayed on the dialog itself, with a short explanatory text, perhaps right below the Unselect all button. Hope I have been able to explain what my pillow told me last night ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (very) trivial observation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 27-Feb-2004 7:59:53 AM (very) trivial observation mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The background colour for the tooltip on the 'Menu Navigator' button is different to that for all other tooltips. Also, on Windows XP, the buttons do not highlight like other buttons. The highlighting goes away almost right away. The buttons should start highlighted until the cursor is removed from the button. -- Chris - Nun mi Esperanton lernas. Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard. Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sumbission Forms
Roelof- Friday, February 27, 2004, 7:50:41 AM, you wrote: That's my understanding of TB forms as well. I've always thought of them as one of the more useless features of TB. Right down there with the Menu Navigator (...ducking...) -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
WISH: six made on bugtracker
Hello TBUDL, I made some wishes on the bugtracker. Want to inform the ones that do not hang around there usually. If you have a comment on a specific wish, please adjust the subject. Here we go: - Make the headers/kludges color configurable for standard (fixed plaintext) viewer. Desc: In Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Plain Text/MicroEd I would like to give the kludges another color to distinguish them from the mailtext. Would be even nicer to have two settings: for header names and header values. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002618 - Function for the editor to strip all quotes from cursor to end of mail Desc: I'd like to see a functions that can strip all quoted lines from cursor's position upto the end of the mail. This should have a good default hotkey, too. AFAIR GoldEd (FTN editor) had Alt-Z for that. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002616 - edit entry in context menu for AB entries in address picker Desc: The address picker that can be used when writing a mail to fill in the To:-header field should provide an easy way to edit the address book entries of these addresses. A good solution could be to have Edit entry in the RMB-menu of the AB entries shown there, which should bring up the real AB for this entry. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002515 - calling plugin macros with prefixed plugin-name Desc: As we are getting more and more plugins for TB there are already two who provide a macro with the same name, namely Pyxies and MyMacros' %TRIM macro. So batties have to be able to call one of these macros explicitly by %Pyxies.Trim() or sth. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002619 - plugin configuration - plugin manager Desc: IMHO the plugin configuration could need a rework and should be more a plugin manager. There could be a button get plugins that would retrieve a compressed plugin list from the official plugin download station, offering sorting by category, name, updated, .. Of course it should include a description, too. This plugin manager could then be used to check for updates and automatically install them (optional and after user confirms). For a good reference of plugin management see JEdit's plugin manager and Miranda's Wassup plugin. This should include checking for plugins that provide same macros (by name) and give a hint somehow. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002622 - Create a reference/symbolic link to a message Desc: I'd like to be able to make a reference/symbolic link to a message like the way I can copy a message, but with the advantage that the messages are linked together and a action that happens to one of them will be applied to all. That is, being replied on, deleted, .. It would have the advantage to save space and be easier to maintain that way. Of course, the filter's should support this create link feature, too (meaning that they should have the action create link in, like copy to). http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002623 -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sumbission Forms
Hello Mark, That's my understanding of TB forms as well. I've always thought of them as one of the more useless features of TB. Right down there with the Menu Navigator (...ducking...) Agree. What menu navigator can you use to find out how to enable Menu Navigator? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How's THIS for an error message?!!
Thursday, February 26, 2004, jwayne wrote: Select the Bayesit plug-in. I then get an Error window saying It seems that something is present in your registry, but it is not enough or corrupted! Delete everything in your registry and you won't see it. (Of course, another option is to unplug your monitor, but that would be cheating, wouldn't it?) -- Urban Error: No General Protection Fault has occurred yet. Please restart Windows and try again. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter as Junk?
Hello Allister, on Sat, 28. Feb 2004 at 10:43:15 +1300 Allister Jenks wrote: GS You might want to try some Java script for you email for protection. However, thanks for the Javascript as I think it will be very useful to me anyway! It's even better to use some form, where the email does not get displayed at all and resides in the server-side script. JFI. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
WISH: general filter to move sent/received mails to contact-specific folders
Hello TBUDL, what do you think about a general filter (like Known) where you select a destination folder and mark contacts from you address book(s) that you'd like to have moved to a special folder? This filter would then check for the marked AB contacts and move these mails to a subfolder of the one that you defined in the filter. The filters setup would look kinda like this: Move to: folder For: [x] Incoming [x] Outgoing [ ] Read [ ] Replied Name of subfolders: [ ] Firstname [ ] First Lastname [ ] Handle [ ] Displayname [ ] ... ..and somewhere the expandable AB where you can select which contacts you want to be processed. I would simply have to setup a common folder like personal, activate this filter and mark the contacts that I write most to and would have a very comfortable mailing situation, without setting incoming/outgoing filters for every contact I want to be treated that way. I like that idea A LOT and am sure that it would be a great feature for the upcoming new filter system. Input, please.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WISH: general filter to move sent/received mails to contact-specific folders
Hello dAniel, what do you think about a general filter (like Known) where you select a destination folder and mark contacts from you address book(s) that you'd like to have moved to a special folder? You can already do that. Define a Group in the AB, adding the contacts you want to that group and, in the advanced tab of your filter, select that the addresses must belong to that AB Group. I do this to sort mail from people in a same company to a Company folder. I never felt the need for the sub-folder as you explain, but I think it can't be done now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter as Junk?
2/27/2004, 4:43 PM: Allister said in Filter as Junk? AJ Saturday, February 28, 2004, 8:37:10 AM, Greg wrote: AJ I have one account which receives virtually nothing but spam - it's the AJ account I use on websites when I have to. GS You might want to try some Java script for you email for protection. AJ I actually meant I enter that one at other people's websites when an AJ email address is required to proceed (such as some software downloads). AJ However, thanks for the Javascript as I think it will be very useful to AJ me anyway! On that note, this utility hides e-mail addresses on webpages quite effectively: http://www.hiveware.com/enkoder_form.php -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org When your economy is kind of ooching along, it's important to let people have more of their own money. -George W. Bush The Bat! 2.04.7, BayesIt! 0.4gm SE | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WISH: general filter to move sent/received mails to contact-specific folders
Hello dAniel hAhler, on Sat, 28 Feb 2004 01:57:53 +0100 (2004-02-28 01:57:53 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [dh] wrote (at least in part): dh what do you think about a general filter (like Known) where you dh select a destination folder and mark contacts from you address book(s) dh that you'd like to have moved to a special folder? dh This filter would then check for the marked AB contacts and move these dh mails to a subfolder of the one that you defined in the filter. In other words: expand the Known filter with the functionality you mention? Ok. I assume the chosen destination folder needs to / will be created 'on the fly'. dh ..and somewhere the expandable AB where you can select which contacts dh you want to be processed. dh I would simply have to setup a common folder like personal, activate dh this filter and mark the contacts that I write most to and would have dh a very comfortable mailing situation, without setting dh incoming/outgoing filters for every contact I want to be treated that dh way. Isn't the known meant to be like 'personal' ? Setting this up for each wanted / allowed address book entry seems quite time consuming to me. I could live with 'filter msgs from contacts listed in some specific address book / group into a destination folder (automagically created)' using your proposal. -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.04.7 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WISH: general filter to move sent/received mails to contact-specific folders
Hello MAU, on Sat, 28. Feb 2004 at 02:23:52 +0100 MAU wrote: what do you think about a general filter (like Known) where you select a destination folder and mark contacts from you address book(s) that you'd like to have moved to a special folder? You can already do that. Define a Group in the AB, adding the contacts you want to that group and, in the advanced tab of your filter, select that the addresses must belong to that AB Group. I do this to sort mail from people in a same company to a Company folder. That's quite good and I did not know that this option was there, but it's not as powerful as what I suggested. I never felt the need for the sub-folder as you explain, but I think it can't be done now. I have some more-traffic contacts that I want to be put into a single folder and also realized that folding by contact is a common feature request, at least for some people I brought to the bat. You can, of course create a filter for all these people, but I wish it was easier. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Mar2004 (4.1.357). Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question About Reply Templates
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm using Mark's one at the moment for testing - to see if it does what I want. I was wondering if it could be refined: 1. To make the previously replied to text only have one '' character before it - after a few replies backwards forwards, the text down at the bottom of the email has 3 or 4 of the '' characters before it - I assume because one '' is added everythime you or the recipient hits the reply button. 2. I did change the %QUOTES to %TEXT - I prefer the %TEXT because if you just use the %QUOTES, text after a sig delimiter (for anyone who uses one replies to one of your emails) gets cut off. When I reply to an email, I want the whole history displayed - every single little bit of text, every punctuation mark, nothing left out. The problem I found when I changed to %TEXT was that some of the text that you are replying to remains coloured black - whereas if you use the %QUOTES, all the replied to text is in a different colour to the one that you use. Is there any way to strike a balance between the two - on the one hand, have all text quoted like with %TEXT, but on the other have it all a different colour like in %QUOTES? Essentially what I am trying to do here is to make The Bat! behave like Microsoft Outlook - the email program that every place I have ever worked has used. Using it 8 hours a day for some years makes you expect things to be a certain way (even though the email program you use at home - The Bat! in my case obviously - is far superior). This replying business is one of them. I got the text that I wanted in my replies from an Outlook email thread, now with the last 2 points above, I'm trying to make it exactly the same. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Chris Avoid parking tickets by leaving your windshield wipers turned to fast wipe whenever you leave your car parked illegally. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question About Reply Templates
Dear Chris, @28-Feb-2004, 14:21 +1100 (28-Feb 03:21 UK time) Chris [C] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to tbudl: C have all text quoted like with %TEXT, but on the other have it C all a different colour like in %QUOTES? Yes. Use %QUOTES=%TEXT C Essentially what I am trying to do here is to make The Bat! C behave like Microsoft Outlook - That's such a darned shame :-(. You might use this opportunity to grow out of it. Instigate a dual set of replies, one of which is an M$ homage and the other a more advanced and forward looking homage to etiquette, sense and aesthetics. You can specify the templates within address book groups and segregate your addresses by reply style within those groups. Just don't use the M$ reply template here. Oh yes, and add a cut mark for your advanced reply templates. Like I said in my original reply, text beneath a cut mark gets cut because it's supposed to. Nothing after a signature should be carried forward. The only bits of an original message that should normally appear in a reply are the bits you're actually commenting on. Imagine a conversation where every new response included every single thing everyone has said so far in that conversation. It stops working very soon. I'm not saying don't use top-post formatting for your replies at all. I'm saying start thinking about using them less often and introducing conversational reply styles to your repertoire of communications skills. Once you get into it, you'll appreciate the clarity and simplicity it embodies. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBUDL Current version?
Hello TBUDL, Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Shouldn't it be 2.04.7? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
Dear Greg, @27-Feb-2004, 21:48 -0600 (28-Feb 03:48 UK time) Greg Strong [GS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: GS Shouldn't it be 2.04.7? Yes and no. The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
Hello Marck, Friday, February 27, 2004, 9:49:04 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more MDP logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now. Whatever, but Help | About says 2.04.7 and so does Ritlabs at http://www.ritlabs.com/ and http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Question About Reply Templates
Chris, [C] wrote: C 1. To make the previously replied to text only have one '' C character before it - after a few replies backwards forwards, the C text down at the bottom of the email has 3 or 4 of the '' C characters before it - I assume because one '' is added everythime C you or the recipient hits the reply button. Yes. This is standard behaviour that can't be changed once you're quoting when replying using %Quotes. C The problem I found when I changed to %TEXT was that some of the C text that you are replying to remains coloured black - whereas if C you use the %QUOTES, all the replied to text is in a different C colour to the one that you use. Is there any way to strike a C balance between the two - on the one hand, have all text quoted C like with %TEXT, but on the other have it all a different colour C like in %QUOTES? This colour coding is intrinsic to TB!. It's not sent with the messages. I'm not sure if the reason you wish to see the difference in how colouring is done, is for what you or what your recipient is to see. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using SB! Lite v2.04.5 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I retrieve my license key etc
I've recently rebuilt my PC and lost my license and serial number. Who do I need to contact to get it back? Thanks. -- Best regards, Peter Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 (www.ritlabs.com) on Windows XP Build 2195 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:TBUDL Current version?
Yes and no. The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now. I'm with you on this, Marck. The lack of the leading zero in version numbers is very confusing. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.04.7 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
Saturday, February 28, 2004, 8:12:31 PM, Clive wrote: Yes and no. The previous release was 2.04.03 and that is more logical to me. I'm calling this one 07 for now. CT I'm with you on this, Marck. The lack of the leading zero in version CT numbers is very confusing. Surely this is simply a matter of reporting fact? What if I decide I like the name bob instead of the impersonal 2.04.7? -- Cheers, Allister -- Latest release bob. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre is empty but the bat cannot shut down
Hi David, Friday, February 27, 2004, 10:10:43 AM, you wrote: We need a button to shut the bat down as if it were exiting. Absolutely. It's ridiculous not to be able to close it. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
