Re: Any XRay users can answer this q?

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Saturday, May 01, 2004, Gerard wrote...

MG>> What should the local and the remote port numbers be?

[..]

> I use 44 here. Just make sure you use the same number with TB! and
> Xray.

I wouldn't recommend using ports below 1024 except port 25. The port
range under 1024 are reserved ports for special registered services
such as www, ntp, smtp etc.. picking a port like 44 could knock
something your OS uses as a requirement, and cause all kinds of
havoc... If you must use a port different to 25, it is strongly
suggested you use above 1024.

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Re: Uread Message Tab

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jan,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 18:01:56 -0400 GMT (02/05/2004, 05:01 +0700 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

>> Then just switch it off. That was my point. Then it won't take up
>> space, it will be gone. Or is there something I'm not getting? Other
>> tabs are uneffected by the setting for the unread tab.

JR>   Well, I think one of us is not getting something because if I
JR>   de-activate3 the View | Option | Folder Tabs option as you suggest,
JR>   *all* my tabs disappear.

No, only the all/unread/virtual folder tabs. I thought you had meant
tabs in other windows. Well, so you are right. But if you want to
keep the all and virutal folders tabs, I don't thnk the unread tab
takes up a lot of space. Space is taken up by the tabs needing a
certain height, and that will be the same whether there are two or
three tabs.

JR>   Please instruct me how you are able to see some tabs w/o seeing
JR>   the "Unread" tab.

I misunderstood what you meant. I can makes all three tabs disappear,
or I see all three. And if you do want to use the virutal folder tab,
I now suddenly fail to see why the unread tabs annoys you. I mean, I
use the unread tab and never use the virtual tab, but the wish to make
the virutal tab go away never crossed my mind. Because that space
couldn't be used for anything else.

Also please note that I receive most of your postings twice. You seem
to TBUDL twice in the TO field.

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Re:Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB

[Clive Taylor]

Hi Jonathan,

> TB plus the BFP runs at 19 megs of RAM; SpamBayes (using the same
> training data, more than 3,000 spam and 3,000 ham) uses just 11 megs.


I've just looked at my SpamPal memory usage - just over 6Mb peak memory
usage on a WinXp machine!

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Re: Uread Message Tab

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Greg,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 15:18:20 -0500 GMT (02/05/2004, 03:18 +0700 GMT),
Greg Strong wrote:

M>> Redundancy. What does it mean? ;-)

GS> see
GS> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Redundancy&x=17&y=21

I don't think he meant it as a question, as it's the same word in Spanish:
http://www.ultralingua.com/yd/index.html?text=redundancy&service=es&translateNow.x=18&translateNow.y=4

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Re:Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB

[Clive Taylor]

Hi Arjan,

> I'm using SpamPal. which has the added benefits of DNSBL lookups and
> Spamassassin based regular expression filtering.


Me too. AND with the Bayesian plugin detection rates are so close to
100% as not to matter. Maybe two spam mails a week make it through to my
inbox. Works brilliantly with IMAP, too.

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Re: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB

[taranis]

So far, I'm happy with the built-in BayesIT filter in TheBat! but
another tool that combines DNSBL with RegEx filters and Bayesian
filtering is SpamCombat.

The only downside is that it doesn't run as a proxy, so in between
filtering in SpamCombat and opening TheBat! and getting your messages,
some spam can slip in. One nice feature is that virus-laden messages
and spam aren't downloaded to your machine.

The lack of using it as a proxy keeps me just using the highly effective
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Re: Best antispam approach I have found thus far for TB

[Arjan de Groot]

On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:49:31 -0500, Jonathan E. Brickman wrote:

> So far, the best approach I have found thus far for TB is the
> Bayes Filter Plugin (by Achim Winkler) plus SpamBayes. [etc]

Just wondering why everyone seems so obsessed with Bayesian
filtering. I'm using SpamPal. which has the added benefits of
DNSBL lookups and Spamassassin based regular expression
filtering.

My current Spam-hit-rate is nearly 100%. Even the nowadays
unavoidable delivery failure messages and virus mails are getting
tagged. After installing SpamPal I've never looked back.


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[Jonathan E. Brickman]

So far, the best approach I have found thus far for TB is the Bayes 
Filter Plugin (by Achim Winkler) plus SpamBayes.  TB plus the BFP runs 
at 19 megs of RAM; SpamBayes (using the same training data, more than 
3,000 spam and 3,000 ham) uses just 11 megs.  I used POPfile for a long 
time, but it was too RAM-heavy, much too slow in startup for multiple 
accounts, and generally ate up resources on my XP/800MHz/392MB machine.

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Re[6]: Spampal and Mygate

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Martin,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 you wrote in 

MW> What are you running on localhost:110?

Actually nothing on localhost 110 as my TB! mail account is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MW>  To summarise using different
MW> ports (use whatever you like):

MW> NNTP feed (hostname:119) ->

Yes

MW> (nntp server hostname:119) Mygate (pop3 gate localhost:1110) ->

Both yes

MW> (pop3 server localhost:1110)

Can't find where to set that one.

MW> SpamPal (proxy localhost:) ->

Yes

MW> (pop3 server localhost:) TB!

Yes and I have Transport/mail server as 127.0.0.1 and /user as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Spampal umbrella is now rotting (one step up
on before) but no connection to Zen newsfeeder.

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Re[2]: Uread Message Tab

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Thomas.

At 2:15 PM on Saturday, May 01, 2004 it seems you posted the following
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Uread Message Tab: 


JR>>   There is *only* one tab I am referring to in this thread & it is the
JR>>   built in tab -- 'unread'. That is not an option.

JR>>   I like the tab feature as I have said & use it, as I have said, but
JR>>   I would like to get rid of the built in 'un-read' tab. If I need it,
JR>>   I should be able to build it with filters. For me it just takes up
JR>>   space.

> Then just switch it off. That was my point. Then it won't take up
> space, it will be gone. Or is there something I'm not getting? Other
> tabs are uneffected by the setting for the unread tab.

  Well, I think one of us is not getting something because if I
  de-activate3 the View | Option | Folder Tabs option as you suggest,
  *all* my tabs disappear.

  Now maybe there is a way to show msgs with a special color or some
  other criteria in a tabbed view, but if there is, I don't know what
  it is . or .. there is something odd about my system.

  Please instruct me how you are able to see some tabs w/o seeing
  the "Unread" tab.

  Thank you.

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Re[2]: IMAP rules ..

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, May 1, 2004, Dave Gorman wrote:

>>   do incoming rules work automatically when using IMAP and TheBat?

> No. It has been promised, but the timeline is anyone's guess. At this
> point it seems the virtual folders are a higher priority.

new filtering system is under development and Stef is preparing it for
new  beta  serie.  Virtual  folders  were  developed  by other Ritlabs
programmer, filtering system was not delayed by implementing them.

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Re: Eek! A Bat HTML (hyperlink) question!

[Melissa Reese]

Hi,

On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 10:46:28 PM PST, I wrote:

> I wonder if anyone would like to send me, via private email, a
> message formatted with HTML that includes such a hyperlink? Perhaps
> there's just something wrong with how my viewer is handling them?

Several of you were kind enough to send me "test messages" with your
"hyperlinks" included.  Since there were several of you, and I don't
have time at the moment to reply individually to each, this message
will have to serve as my "thank you" to all of you.  Thank you!

First, as a "plain text person" myself, I want to thank you for even
starting up the dreaded HTML editor at all in order to help me out. I
know how painful this can be.

Secondly...all your hyperlinks worked! However, I must include the
following caveat, though I'm not yet entirely sure if this is the only
thing that "fixed" it for me...

At the time I wrote my original query, I had just recently installed
TB! v2.10.03.  This was the version I was using while testing the HTML
editor and the "hyperlink" function. For an unrelated reason, between
that time and the time I tested the "hyperlinks" all of you sent to
me, I had rolled back my Bat to v2.10.01.

In subsequent testing of hyperlink creation/clicking in v2.10.01,
everything here seems to work as expected.  I can create hyperlinks in
the HTML editor, and when I send the test mail to myself, I can click
on them (single click), and they work as expected.

I may do a bit more testing between v2.10.01 and v2.10.03, just out of
masochistic curiosity, but for the moment, rolling back to the earlier
version of TB! seems to have addressed the "problem" I encountered
last night in my testing.

I'll pass this information on to my mom, and hopefully, in spite of
this working, she still won't be sending much of the "HTML email"
around! :-)

Thanks again for all your help!

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Re:IMAP rules ..

[Clive Taylor]

Hi Dave,

> But I, and several others on this list, are quite frustrated with the
> snail's pace with which RITLabs is approaching IMAP improvements.

Tell you what. Go to Ritlab's website and try and find references to TB
and IMAP. While you're there , try and find the forum, too. As I recall
there were large numbers of postings scathing about TB's abilities in
that area.

It seems that IMAP is not a priority.
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Re[4]: Spampal and Mygate

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Martin,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 you wrote in 

MW> It's more likely to be this...

MW> NNTP 119 (ISP)

Yes, that's what it's set to.

MW> Mygate 110 (gate 127.0.0.1)

Can't do that as my TB! mail account uses that so I've set up a 4 number
(1700) gate.

MW> SpamPal 110 (127.0.0.1) > 1100 (local proxy 127.0.0.1)

Originally had it at 119. Tried to change to 1700  (both on
127.0.0.1)but wasn't allowed to by Spampal because of a conflict.

MW> TB! 1100 (127.0.0.1)

Change 1100 for 1700 and those are my settings.

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Re: Uread Message Tab

[Greg Strong]

Hello MAU,

Friday, April 30, 2004, 4:28:12 PM, MAU wrote:

M> Redundancy. What does it mean? ;-)

see
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Redundancy&x=17&y=21

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Re: IMAP rules ..

[Dave Gorman]

Hello Jody,

Saturday, May 1, 2004, 11:13:22 AM, you wrote:

>>>   do incoming rules work automatically when using IMAP and TheBat?

DG>> No. It has been promised, but the timeline is anyone's guess. At this
DG>> point it seems the virtual folders are a higher priority.

> Sad ... because I for one would disagree with that choice.

I as well... It is my understanding, though, that the entire filtering
system is being rewritten from the ground up. So perhaps implementing
VF's was something they could accomplish more quickly. But I, and
several others on this list, are quite frustrated with the snail's
pace with which RITLabs is approaching IMAP improvements.

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Re[2]: Spampal and Mygate

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Martin,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 you wrote in 

MW> POP3 110 (ISP)
MW> SpamPal 110 (SpamPal local proxy 127.0.0.1)
MW> Mygate 110 (gate 127.0.0.1) >1100 (local server 127.0.0.1)
MW> TB! 1100 (127.0.0.1)

Well, as far as I can see those are the settings I have although POP3 is
119 instead so I'm a bit lost.

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Re[2]: Uread Message Tab

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 2 May 2004 you wrote in 

TF> But there are
TF> no tabs left, not even the all tab, when I switch it off.

You're absolutely right! I must have wanted to have seen the ALL tab but
they all go as you say.

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Re: Uread Message Tab

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 19:40:52 +0100 GMT (02/05/2004, 01:40 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

TF>> It is. Opt out by going to View / Folder Tabs in the main menu and
TF>> take the tickmark off.

RW> But the trouble is that it stops viewing of all virtual folder tabs too.
RW> There's only the ALL tab left in the view.

That's true, I didn't think of the virutal folder tab. But there are
no tabs left, not even the all tab, when I switch it off.

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Re[2]: Uread Message Tab

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 2 May 2004 you wrote in 

TF> Then just switch it off. That was my point. Then it won't take up
TF> space, it will be gone. Or is there something I'm not getting? Other
TF> tabs are uneffected by the setting for the unread tab.

JR>> For you it's useful. That makes it sound like it should be an
JR>> option to me.

TF> It is. Opt out by going to View / Folder Tabs in the main menu and
TF> take the tickmark off.

But the trouble is that it stops viewing of all virtual folder tabs too.
There's only the ALL tab left in the view.

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Re: Uread Message Tab

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jan,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 07:47:07 -0400 GMT (01/05/2004, 18:47 +0700 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

>> I cannot follow you. It is an ooption, yes it is. But you want to
>> use it anyway. And say later on that the feature is redundant. But
>> you don't want to use the option to turn it off. Hm?

JR>   There is *only* one tab I am referring to in this thread & it is the
JR>   built in tab -- 'unread'. That is not an option.

JR>   I like the tab feature as I have said & use it, as I have said, but
JR>   I would like to get rid of the built in 'un-read' tab. If I need it,
JR>   I should be able to build it with filters. For me it just takes up
JR>   space.

Then just switch it off. That was my point. Then it won't take up
space, it will be gone. Or is there something I'm not getting? Other
tabs are uneffected by the setting for the unread tab.

JR> For you it's useful. That makes it sound like it should be an
JR> option to me.

It is. Opt out by going to View / Folder Tabs in the main menu and
take the tickmark off.

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Re: Search missing some msgs in 2.10.3

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Steve,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 20:39:12 +1000 GMT (01/05/2004, 17:39 +0700 GMT),
Steve Mullarkey wrote:

SM> I do a search in 2.10.1 and get 'x' msgs. I upgrade to 2.10.3, do an
SM> identical search and get far less than 'x' msgs.

I see. I didn't try that one. Sounds bad.

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Re[2]: IMAP rules ..

[Jody Watts]

E-Mail Message
~~
From: Dave Gorman
Date: Saturday, May 01, 2004 at 7:41 AM
Subject:  Re: IMAP rules ..
_

_\/_
o/\o

DG> Hello Jody,

DG> Friday, April 30, 2004, 8:17:53 PM, you wrote:

>>   do incoming rules work automatically when using IMAP and TheBat?

DG> No. It has been promised, but the timeline is anyone's guess. At this
DG> point it seems the virtual folders are a higher priority.




_


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[John]

Hi,

I've made available a plug-in to complement TB! + VEDIT users.
Nothing fancy, but useful if perhaps you're a user of the
file/disk/text editor Vedit.

Basically the plug-in/vdm macro combination fetches version, serial
number and revision date information from any of the three versions
of Vedit. Then making the information available via a macro to allow
correct & proper email support requests without worry of having
forgot to include the info.

Works / tested with TB! 2.10.xx but should work with earlier v2.xx
of TB! also.

The TXT file in the archive also contains some extra information
which may be of use.

The plug-in is available at http://tinyurl.com/23aeo in the
downloads area.

BTW: anyone writing about, posting or otherwise linking to the
file/website, -please- do not post my email address or name. If
anyone needs or wants to contact me there are means on my humble
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Re: s/mime problem

[Kevin Coates]

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Hash: SHA1

Hi Peter,

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:22:19 +0200 (1:22 PM here), Peter Meyns [PM]
wrote in :

PM> I don't really know. It seems to work as usual here. I'd
PM> scrutinize the settings in Account » Properties » General » Edit
PM> personal certificates. Your issuer's certificate should be listed
PM> there along with your own.

I've ironed out my problems but not without some difficulty. I had 7
accounts with Thawte certificates, none expired. 2 accounts seemed
functional but nothing I did could massage the other 5 back to life.
Exporting again from Windows and re-importing into The Bat! didn't
work. Then I tried re-downloading from the Thawte site. Unfortunately,
I would get errors when trying import a copy of the certificates back
into IE from the Thawte site. I'm not sure what that was about, as the
message was not very descriptive. I'm assuming it was an error on the
Thawte site.

Rather than wait for a tech support answer, I went to CACert and
requested certificates for my 7 email addresses. Everything worked
fine and I imported into IE and eventually into my accounts in The
Bat! without any difficulties.

I did find something curious when examining each account's personal
certificates. 2 accounts had both mine and the issuers certificate as
you suggested. The other 5 only showed my certificate. I sent test
messages using all the accounts and everything seems to work. I just
am curious why all the accounts don't have or seem to need the issuers
certificate in the edit window. Perhaps it finds what it needs in the
Intermediate CA or Trusted Root CA address book. I'm also wondering
why all of this stopped working in the first place. As I've always
used The Bat's internal s/mime implementation, all the Cert
information should be independent of the Windows Cert store so any
problems shouldn't be Windows related. I've never changed the account
properties for the Certs since the last time when they were working.

Oh well, everything is working now. Let's hope it stays that way. Its
no wonder why I stick to PGP. :)

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Re: IMAP rules ..

[Dave Gorman]

Hello Jody,

Friday, April 30, 2004, 8:17:53 PM, you wrote:

>   do incoming rules work automatically when using IMAP and TheBat?

No. It has been promised, but the timeline is anyone's guess. At this
point it seems the virtual folders are a higher priority.


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Re[2]: Uread Message Tab

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Thomas.

At 2:15 AM on Saturday, May 01, 2004 it seems you posted the following
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Uread Message Tab: 

JR   Personally, I wish RIT would make it an option
JR or excise it.
>>> 
>>> It is indeed an option. Main menu: View / Folder Tabs.
> 
JR>>   Indeed, it is not. The option that you refer to is
JR>> an all or nothing
JR>>   choice. I do use & like the tabs & use them daily.
> 
> I cannot follow you. It is an ooption, yes it is. But you want to
> use it anyway. And say later on that the feature is redundant. But
> you don't want to use the option to turn it off. Hm?

  There is *only* one tab I am referring to in this thread & it is the
  built in tab -- 'unread'. That is not an option.

  I like the tab feature as I have said & use it, as I have said, but
  I would like to get rid of the built in 'un-read' tab. If I need it,
  I should be able to build it with filters. For me it just takes up
  space. For you it's useful. That makes it sound like it should be an
  option to me.

  At the end of the day, it's no big deal one way or another.

  To me it's the same thing as all the talk/problems w the anti-spam
  plug-ins. I don''t get it. I use filters for that & have no problems
  w spam but a lot of people seem to prefer using the plug-in. Again,
  no big deal.

  Different strokes for different folks & TB! can handle it all.

-- 
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Ridgefield, CT USA
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many messages in account (Backup fails)

[Timo Boettcher]

Hi,

How many messages do you have in your TheBat!-mailaccounts? I have
reached 26 mails in one account (yes, a quarter million) and
though I can back it up, I can't restore it on my notebook, I always
get "error reading file C:\path\to\backup.tbk"
Is there a limit of size of a backupfile or the number of messages in
a backupfile or an account that is backuped?

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Re[2]: Search missing some msgs in 2.10.3

[Steve Mullarkey]

Hi Thomas,

On Sat, 1 May 2004, at 12:52:03 [GMT +0700]
(which was 3:52 PM on Saturday, 1 May 2004 [GMT +1000] where I live) 
you wrote:

TF> Hello Steve,

TF> On Sat, 1 May 2004 11:12:14 +1000 GMT (01/05/2004, 08:12 +0700 GMT),
TF> Steve Mullarkey wrote:

SM>> Upgraded from from 2.10.1 to 2.10.3 and find that Search function is
SM>> missing many msgs. I was searching All folders for a Sender/Receiver
SM>> match. It found some but not all msgs.

TF> Do the messages that you think are mistenkenly not shown really
TF> contain the string (no typing mistakes) in the location ou are
TF> looking.

I do a search in 2.10.1 and get 'x' msgs. I upgrade to 2.10.3, do an
identical search and get far less than 'x' msgs.

BTW, the search is in "All Folders".


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Re: Uread Message Tab

[MAU]

Hello Dwight,

> Yes, I think it is very helpful. One has a list of all folders with
> unread messages, no matter how deeply buried in the account list tree,

That's it. :)

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Spampal and Mygate

[Richard Wakeford]

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Hello,

I'm posting this here as I feel it's a general rather than Beta
question.

I've tried with all sorts of settings and just can't get SpamPal to
recognise Mygate at all. In Mygate I have my NNTP server as port 119 and
I've set up a POP3 port of the same in SpamPal.

I've had a look through the archives but can't find any reference to the
two programmes together so maybe SpamPal only works with mail and not
Newsgroups? Excuse my ignorance.

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Regards,

Richard

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Re: Eek! A Bat HTML (hyperlink) question!

[MAU]

Hello Melissa,

> When I move the mouse pointer over the link, the little "hand" shows
> up as if it's a clickable link, but when I click on it, nothing
> happens.

Have you tried to click a second or third time? I seem to recall some
people complaining about the first click not working. Although I hardly
receive any HTML with a link, I also seem to recall this happening. The
first click attempt just scrolls the message to top, but a second
attempt works.

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Re: Mod: Cut mark

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Roelof,

@1-May-2004, 11:33 +0200 (01-May 10:33 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

... 

RO> Just consider this as an academic matter, because IMNSHO anybody
RO> using MIME PGP to avoid a cut mark is a genuine nut case. Just
RO> consider the difference in bandwidth.

It's all true! ;-).

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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Cut mark)

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Marck,

On Sat, 1 May 2004 10:06:33 +0100GMT (1-5-04, 11:06 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MDP> Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make
MDP> any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being
MDP> courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is
MDP> added to your signature by the list server.

I wouldn't presume to go into a discussion with you on this topic,
after all you're the skipper on this list, but what if you don't use a
signature at all, but do use MIME PGP signing (sure, that's a
signature too, but you get my drift), in that case a cut mark wouldn't
serve any purpose at all, since the list will insert the footer as an
attachment...

Just consider this as an academic matter, because IMNSHO anybody using
MIME PGP to avoid a cut mark is a genuine nut case. Just consider the
difference in bandwidth.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

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Re: Any XRay users can answer this q?

[Gerard]

ON Friday, April 30, 2004, 12:31:48 AM, you wrote:
MG> Have intalled XRay to switch SMTP servers.

MG> What should the local and the remote port numbers be?


Hi Marten,

Remote is the port of the SMTP server of your ISP. Normally this is 25.

The local port number is the number you specify in TB! under
account|properties|transport on the top of the page were is SMTP port
number. It should be set to 25 now.

I use 44 here. Just make sure you use the same number with TB! and Xray.

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