Re: Deleting message when downloading header

2004-07-06 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Edgar,

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 23:51:40 +0200GMT(05.07.2004, 23:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 Does TB! still delete the message when the setting is:

 Delete after download
 Download only header when Message size  xx kb
...
 When not than you have to set every thing to be left on the
 server and then delete them with a filter the next time you get
 your mail.

you could change your settings to leave all messages for 1 day on the
server. So yiu have time to download the large mails.

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Re: Can I globally clear an address book field ?

2004-07-06 Thread Nick Dutton
Monday, July 5, 2004, 7:34:18 PM, you wrote:
ND Is there any way that I can clear a single field in every AB record?

ND I've just started using the Nickname field in macros, only to find
ND that it's been occupied by some horrible ex-OL2K random string like
ND this:  ce9838d6-f141-4b77-a280-c5113de96572.

PC how about exporting your AB to a CSV ( comma separated values) file,
PC clearing that column, then import it back??

Doh!  Sometimes this list is just _too_ easy to post to.

Thanks Paul/Cyrille,

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Outgoing attachments are also saved in Attach folder?!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hello again list,

when I joined TBUDL in May, I got help with my two most urgent issues
with TB. Here are some more questions - and since I realized that it's
better with one issue per mail, I will send several mails. Here
goes...

I save the attachments I receive in a separate Attach folder (to save
them in the msg body is not an option for me). But all the attachments
that I myself send are also saved in that folder?! I don't want them
there, I have them elsewhere on my PC, and I don't see why TB should
save them on the hard disk at all. Is there a way to turn this feature
off?


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The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
In some folders the next msg (newer, I have them sorted by date) is
opened with the 'next' button, in others with 'previous'. This is very
confusing. Is it a bug?


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Dictionaries and Spell Checker

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
I write mails in several languages and have activated my own
dictionaries (.dic files), but I haven't really grasped how it works:
TB seems to be able to spell check also those languages with its own
UserDic. So which dictionary should I add new words to - different
depending on language, or all to UserDic and remove my own dics? When
I add words to UserDic the red underlining disappears, when I add them
to my own dics it stays.

Why is UserDic divided in so many .tlx files?? Each one contains only
a few hundred words, and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the
word I've added to it. Would it be better to make them all into one
big file?

What does the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic.TLX mean?

What do the .clx files contain and can they be opened and edited?

And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE??


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View modes

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without
success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the
folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have
marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every
time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one
view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing
wrong?


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'Paste as quotation' in HTML mails?

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Why doesn't the function 'paste as quotation' work in HTML mails?


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Toolbar unadjustable?

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
In all the mail clients I've used so far, the toolbar is adjustable,
mostly in a menu that pops up by right-clicking. Buttons can be added
and removed, and the order can be changed. When right-clicking the
toolbar in TB, nothing happens, and the Help file is no help in this
matter. Is the TB toolbar unadjustable?


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HTML backgrounds?

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
In an HTML mail, I can choose a color background and insert a picture,
an object etc., but there is no option with letter paper background.
Not so few mail clients have them and I've search the Internet for
download sites, but I don't find any for TB. Does anybody know of such
sites?


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Do I need the strange address books?

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
I have created several address books of my own. What are Certum CA
Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, Verisign, Intermediate CA and
Trusted Root CA and why are they delivered with TB? I have ventured to
delete them all. Are they necessary in a way that I'm not aware of?


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Read mails are still marked as unread

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
When I read lots of mails in a row, some read msgs are still marked as
unread afterwards. Is this a bug?


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Re: View modes

2004-07-06 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Britt,
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 7:53:58 AM, you wrote:

BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without
BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the
BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have
BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every
BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one
BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing
BH wrong?
The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No
View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder.

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Re: Toolbar unadjustable?

2004-07-06 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Britt,
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 7:55:14 AM, you wrote:

BH In all the mail clients I've used so far, the toolbar is adjustable,
BH mostly in a menu that pops up by right-clicking. Buttons can be added
BH and removed, and the order can be changed. When right-clicking the
BH toolbar in TB, nothing happens, and the Help file is no help in this
BH matter. Is the TB toolbar unadjustable?
No at the present time it is not adjustable. I believe it is a future
feature though.

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Re: Do I need the strange address books?

2004-07-06 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Britt Henrikson wrote:
Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you 
state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid like 
you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...

I have created several address books of my own. What are Certum CA
Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, Verisign, Intermediate CA and
Trusted Root CA and why are they delivered with TB? I have ventured to
delete them all. Are they necessary in a way that I'm not aware of?
I'm not using TB! right now, but they most probably are root 
certificates. You need them to verify if someone's certificate (which 
has been issued by one of those CA's [certificate authorities]) is valid.

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Re: Read mails are still marked as unread

2004-07-06 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Britt Henrikson wrote:
When I read lots of mails in a row, some read msgs are still marked as
unread afterwards. Is this a bug?
The message should be flagged read after the expiry time of two seconds 
(this is the default and is configurable). So if you're moving to 
another message before those two seconds it won't get flagged.

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Re: Read mails are still marked as unread

2004-07-06 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Britt,
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 7:59:00 AM, you wrote:

BH When I read lots of mails in a row, some read msgs are still marked as
BH unread afterwards. Is this a bug?
If you are reading a thread, then the message above in the thread does
not get marked as read until you have completed reading the thread. If
you are not reading a thread then I guess it depends on what you have
set for the account for when a message gets marked as read.

What do you have set under Account Properties - Options.

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Re: Read mails are still marked as unread

2004-07-06 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Britt,

@6-Jul-2004, 14:59 +0200 (06-Jul 13:59 UK time) Britt Henrikson said
to TBUDL:

 When I read lots of mails in a row, some read msgs are still marked as
 unread afterwards. Is this a bug?

It would depend on the Mark messages read after... setting in the
account properties. If you skim a mail too quickly it may not have
time to register as read.

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Re: Toolbar unadjustable?

2004-07-06 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:55:14 +0200 (8:55 AM EDT here) Britt Henrikson wrote:

 In all the mail clients I've used so far, the toolbar is adjustable,
 mostly in a menu that pops up by right-clicking. Buttons can be
 added and removed, and the order can be changed. When right-clicking
 the toolbar in TB, nothing happens, and the Help file is no help in
 this matter. Is the TB toolbar unadjustable?

Right click on one of the column headings.

  Select: Setup View Mode

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Re: View modes

2004-07-06 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Britt,

On 6 Jul 2004 at 14:53:58 +0200 GMT [14:53 CEST] you wrote:

BH I've tried to use different view modes for different folders, without
BH success. In Options - Preferences - View Mode I have ticked the
BH folders I want to apply a certain mode to (in Use by), AND I have
BH marked it in each folder under Folder - Folder View Mode, but every
BH time ALL my folders change their view mode. Thus I can only have one
BH view mode for all folders. This can't be right, so what am I doing
BH wrong?

Set View-Global View Mode to No Viewmode

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Re: HTML backgrounds?

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:56:28 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 14:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BH In an HTML mail, I can choose a color background and insert a picture,
BH an object etc., but there is no option with letter paper background.

You can't use html sjablones for TB.


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Re: 'Paste as quotation' in HTML mails?

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:54:26 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 14:54 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BH Why doesn't the function 'paste as quotation' work in HTML mails?

Because it's a bug. The HTML-editor is new development in TB and has
to be developed quite a bit.

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Re: TB hanging while receiving messages from POP3 server

2004-07-06 Thread Jim McMaster
On Monday, July 5, 2004, 11:04:04 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:


 On Monday, July 5, 2004, 12:41 PM, you wrote:

JM I have been evaluating TB for two weeks, and have found a
JM show-stopper that will prevent my using it.  

 Zone alarm is known
 to cause major issues with TB. Period.

I checked their website, and they report problems when ZoneAlarm and an antivirus 
program both check email attachments for viruses.  I had both enabled.  I turned off 
McAfee's checking, and had no problems for a day.  Now I have disabled ZoneAlarm's 
checking and re-enabled McAfee's to see what happens.  I will report findings in a 
couple of days.

Thanks to all who responded.  TB has some annoying quirks, but it still is better than 
the alternatives I have seen.
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Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:53:16 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 14:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BH I write mails in several languages and have activated my own
BH dictionaries (.dic files), but I haven't really grasped how it works:
BH TB seems to be able to spell check also those languages with its own
BH UserDic.

TB has its own library set, you don't need to create another one.

Every language you installed has two files, an ssceXX.tlx and an
ssceXX2.clx file, where XX stands for the language 'am' for American
English, 'du' for Dutch (that's an important one for me), 'go' for
German old spelling, etc

BH So which dictionary should I add new words to - different
BH depending on language, or all to UserDic and remove my own dics?

To userdic, you don't need to insert them manually, but via the
spell checker interface.

BH When I add words to UserDic the red underlining disappears, when I
BH add them to my own dics it stays.

Reason enough to add them to userdic, I'd say. ;-)

BH Why is UserDic divided in so many .tlx files??

There's a tlx for every language

BH Each one contains only a few hundred words,

Could be, I've never counted them.

BH and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the word I've added
BH to it.

That's its function.

BH Would it be better to make them all into one big file?

No, TB would have no means to distinguish between languages.

BH What does the letter 'i' after each added word in UserDic.TLX mean?

Dunno.

BH What do the .clx files contain

Spell checker info g

BH and can they be opened and edited?

No.

BH And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE??

Because you haven't installed American English? does your 'speller'
directory contain the files ssceam.tlx and ssceam2.clx?

BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack?

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Re: The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:51:08 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 14:51 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BH In some folders the next msg (newer, I have them sorted by date) is
BH opened with the 'next' button, in others with 'previous'. This is very
BH confusing. Is it a bug?

Depends on the message you've selected, I'd guess. TB remembers the
message you were viewing the last time you were in that folder. When
that message doesn't exist anymore when you enter that folder again TB
has to focus on a new message. Depending on your folder settings that
could give you different results.

In my experience TB behaves the same in folders with identical
settings.

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Re: Outgoing attachments are also saved in Attach folder?!

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:46:31 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 14:46 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BH But all the attachments that I myself send are also saved in that
BH folder?! I don't want them there, I have them elsewhere on my PC,
BH and I don't see why TB should save them on the hard disk at all.

That's easily explained. Suppose you're collecting stamps and you've
got a list with stamps you're looking for. You send that list to a
friend, meanwhile you add stamps to your collection and delete them
from your list.
Some time later you'd like to check how many changes you've made to
the list you sent in order to decide whether you should post a new
one.
The only way this is possible is by having a copy somewhere. Therefore
just as TB saves the messages it sent, it also saves the attachments
it sent. Anything else wouldn't be acceptable.

BH Is there a way to turn this feature off?

No.
However there is a work around.
Create an outgoing fiter.
Check for '.' in kludges (or anything else that always matches)
At the 'advanced' tab: check 'message has attachments'
At the 'options' tab: check 'continue processing with other filters'
At the 'actions' tab:
Export message to file
  Select a file called 'getrid.bat' in your attachments directory
  (You might need to create the file first)
  Check 'overwrite existing file'
  Export as text
  Set the export template filter to this single line:
  del %Attachments
Now you also choose the next action:
Run external command
  Browse for (and select) the getrid.bat file in your attachments directory

This will get rid of your sent attachments except when you're sending
multiple attachments with one message. As a general rule that's a bad
habit, so this will force you to behave properly and send one file per
message.
  
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Re[2]: HTML backgrounds?

2004-07-06 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 5:00:24 PM, you wrote:

RO You can't use html sjablones for TB.

Any idea if this is planned and/or even possible to implement?



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Re: One Email Address, Multiple Names

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill,

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:06:32 -0500GMT (6-7-2004, 5:06 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BM In my family address book, I have multiple entries for the with the
BM same email address.

For the reasons you explained that's a bad habit. ;-) TB picks the
first AB entry with the correct address.

BM Name  Handle  Address
BM   --  ---
BM Dad dd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BM Mom mm[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BM Mom  Dad   md[EMAIL PROTECTED]

BM My templates use address book macros and pick up the same name no
BM matter whether I enter dd, mm or md.  How do I get around this?

Just use the Mom  Dad address and create two quick templates, call
this one 'dd':

-
%Clear%-
%T0=''%To='Dad parental address'%-
%From=%ABFromFirstName %ABFromEmail%-
Dear Dad,

%Cursor
%QInclude=FamSig%-
-

When writing to your dad, type dd followed by Ctrl-space in your
message and you're done.
I suppose you're able to proceed with the 'mm' QT yourself. ;-)

BTW When you write a new message to your dad with this template, you
need to enter any address in the To: header since the QT will take
care of that.

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Re: HTML backgrounds?

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mark,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:16:08 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 18:16 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO You can't use html sjablones for TB.

MP Any idea if this is planned and/or even possible to implement?

Of course it's possible to implement. If you can imagine it, it can be
implemented.

BTW You're one of the few on this list who will have understood my
garbling of languages. Of course I meant 'templates' in stead of
'sjablones' and as far as I know the latter isn't a proper word in any
language.


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Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys

2004-07-06 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello lists,

We have asked, and she has accepted, our very own lovable Mary Bull
(Trill to those who know her well), to become the keeper of the
PCWSmileys.

http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php

Once I build it for her, she'll have an administrative interface to
the MySQL DB to manage the PCWSmileys to include deletions, renaming
handles, overwriting, categorizing and other things for the user
submitted images.

She'll also receive some training on how to correct image flaws or
broken images (we'll cross that bridge when we get to it! :grin: )

She is without a doubt to any of the mods as the perfect person for
the job.

Thanks for taking it on Mary. We know you'll do a great job!

P.S. Don't screw it up! :grin:


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Re: HTML backgrounds?

2004-07-06 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello Roelof,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:43:41 +0200 UTC, Roelof Otten wrote:

RO Of course it's possible to implement. If you can imagine it, it can be
RO implemented.

Hey, that's copyrighted! :)

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Re: Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 1:04:47 PM, Leif wrote:

LG We have asked, and she has accepted, our very own lovable Mary Bull
LG (Trill to those who know her well), to become the keeper of the
LG PCWSmileys.
LG http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php

Congratulations Mary!!!  :hooray:

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Alex Ezell
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:31:37 AM, Dave wrote:

 Hello Leif,
 Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote:

 You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
 than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
 a name immediately while reading a message.

 Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting
 when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out at me!

Sorry to pop up an old thread, but I am having a bit of trouble with
the Rogues smilies. I have the zip extracted into the /images
directory along with the pdsf.msl and the rogues.msl.

I seem to have Use smilies checked in the View/Edit properties. But
nothing seems to appear.

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

BTW, I just added my pic to the gallery. :)

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Re: View modes - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hello Stuart and Andre,

 The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No
 View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder.

Thank you both so much for this info!!


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Re: The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Roelof,

BH In some folders the next msg (newer, I have them sorted by date) is
BH opened with the 'next' button, in others with 'previous'.

 Depends on the message you've selected, I'd guess.

No. What I was trying to say was that in certain folders, I *always*
have to use the button 'next' to go from older to newer mails, in
other folders I *always* have to use the button 'previous'.


 TB remembers the message you were viewing the last time you were in
 that folder. When that message doesn't exist anymore when you enter
 that folder again TB has to focus on a new message. Depending on
 your folder settings that could give you different results.

I'm not sure I can follow you here, but I'll try different ways and
pay attention to exactly what it is I'm doing.


 In my experience TB behaves the same in folders with identical
 settings.

What exactly do you mean by 'settings'? Column settings? They are the
same in every folder.


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Re: Outgoing attachments are also saved in Attach folder?! - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hi again Roelof,

 Suppose you're collecting stamps and you've got a list with stamps
 you're looking for. You send that list to a friend, meanwhile you
 add stamps to your collection and delete them from your list. Some
 time later you'd like to check how many changes you've made to the
 list you sent in order to decide whether you should post a new one.
 The only way this is possible is by having a copy somewhere.

That's exactly my point: I have a copy of it *myself*, TB doesn't have
to create one for me.

 Therefore just as TB saves the messages it sent, it also saves the
 attachments it sent. Anything else wouldn't be acceptable.

Well, it *is* acceptable in other mail clients. TB is the only one
I've tried that does this.


 However there is a work around.

Thanks very much for your long and detailed explanation! I'll try the
method out when I have more time. Until then, I'll just continue to
open the Attach folder and manually delete my own attachments. At
least I know now that there isn't anywhere I can just easily turn this
function off.


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Re: Toolbar unadjustable? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hi again Stuart,

BH Is the TB toolbar unadjustable?

 No at the present time it is not adjustable. I believe it is a future
 feature though.

Yes, I surely hope so! I would like to have it my own way.


Hi Dan,

 Right click on one of the column headings. Select: Setup View Mode
 You can can copy your settings to another folder by: TheBat! =
 Folder = Copy column Settings to

I think you must have misunderstood my question. I wasn't asking about
the folder column settings, I asked about the *toolbars*. Thanks for
your answer anyway!


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error when mailing attachment via x-ray

2004-07-06 Thread Cyrille
Hello TBUDL,

  I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat!
  When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error
  message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end
  with CRLF.CRLF.

  What does this mean?

  What is going wrong?

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Re: HTML backgrounds? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Roelof,

 You can't use html sjablones for TB.

That's really a shame. I love to send and get mails with real letter
papers.


(Roelof to Mark:)
 BTW You're one of the few on this list who will have understood my
 garbling of languages.

Well, here is another one. I had no problem to understand!


 Of course I meant 'templates' in stead of 'sjablones' and as far as
 I know the latter isn't a proper word in any language.

Then you don't know Norwegian! ;-) Or maybe that's exactly what you
do, unconsciously - what if you were a Norwegian in your previous
life?!


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Re: Do I need the strange address books? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Charles,

 Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you
 state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid
 like you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...

I'm not aware of having asked any question about this...? Or maybe I
did that in May?

 What are Certum CA Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, Verisign,
 Intermediate CA and Trusted Root CA and why are they delivered with
 TB? I have ventured to delete them all. Are they necessary in a way
 that I'm not aware of?

 I'm not using TB! right now, but they most probably are root 
 certificates. You need them to verify if someone's certificate (which
 has been issued by one of those CA's [certificate authorities]) is valid.

Oh, sh-t... So I shouldn't have deleted them. But I suppose they can
be downloaded and installed again?


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Re: Read mails are still marked as unread - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hello Charles, Stuart and Marck,

 The message should be flagged read after the expiry time of two seconds
 (this is the default and is configurable). So if you're moving to 
 another message before those two seconds it won't get flagged.

Thanks to all three of you for your answers! I had no idea that two
seconds were such a short time, I was sure that every mail I opened
was opened for more than two seconds. Now I've tested and had the
mails open a second longer, and yes, now all the messages were marked
as read.


 If you are reading a thread, then the message above in the thread
 does not get marked as read until you have completed reading the
 thread.

Stuart, messages I open do get marked as read before I have completed
reading the whole thread. So I don't really understand your statement.
Maybe you're using another TB version than I am?


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Re: 'Paste as quotation' in HTML mails? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Roelof,

BH Why doesn't the function 'paste as quotation' work in HTML mails?

 Because it's a bug. The HTML-editor is new development in TB and has
 to be developed quite a bit.

Aha, I see... So it turned out that the two things I thought were bugs
were not, but this one is. As I said, I'm eagerly waiting for new HTML
features. Thanks for your answer!


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Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hi Roelof, thank you so much for your great help!

 TB has its own library set, you don't need to create another one.

OK.

 Every language you installed has two files, an ssceXX.tlx and an
 ssceXX2.clx file, where XX stands for the language 'am' for American
 English, 'du' for Dutch (that's an important one for me), 'go' for
 German old spelling, etc

Aha, very useful information!

BH So which dictionary should I add new words to

 To userdic,

OK.

 you don't need to insert them manually, but via the spell checker
 interface.

Yes, yes, I know that... :-D


BH and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the word I've added
BH to it.

 That's its function.

Oh, but in that case I must surely be able to manually copy all the
words in my own .dic file into UserDic? My .dic file contains
thousands of words that I've added to it over the years, and then I
wouldn't have to add each word again to TB UserDic every time it comes
up. Am I right?


BH Would it be better to make them all into one big file?

 No, TB would have no means to distinguish between languages.

But TB UserDic now contains words from different languages. Hence my
question if I should use one dictionary for each language to add new
words to. If I add them all to UserDic, how does TB then distinguish
between those languages?


BH And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE??

 Because you haven't installed American English?

Of course I've installed it, that's why I wonder.


 does your 'speller' directory contain the files ssceam.tlx and
 ssceam2.clx?

Yes, it does.

 BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack?

Not quite all, only the ones I need: 12 languages.

So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed it?


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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 3:43:51 PM, Alex wrote:

AE On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 11:31:37 AM, Dave wrote:

 Hello Leif,
 Thursday, June 17, 2004, 10:11:20 AM, you wrote:

 You know.. this rouges smileys thing has actually worked out better
 than I anticipated. I really, really like being able to put a face to
 a name immediately while reading a message.

 Yeah, it's pretty slick isn't it? Although it is quite disconcerting
 when I'm scanning messages  my own face pops out at me!

AE Sorry to pop up an old thread, but I am having a bit of trouble with
AE the Rogues smilies. I have the zip extracted into the /images
AE directory along with the pdsf.msl and the rogues.msl.
AE I seem to have Use smilies checked in the View/Edit properties. But
AE nothing seems to appear.

Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to
be done.

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Re[2]: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Plan9,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 2:35:33 PM, you wrote:

 Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
 edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
 I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs
 to be done.

I would be interested in these changes also...if you don't mind? :-)

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Re: Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys

2004-07-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Leif and lists,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 12:04:47 PM, you wrote:

LG We have asked, and she has accepted, our very own lovable Mary Bull
LG (Trill to those who know her well), to become the keeper of the
LG PCWSmileys.

I was honored to be offered the job.

Please let me say, here, that whether you know me well or not, you may
call me Trill.

Leif gave that name to me as a compliment many months ago--he can't
remember for what and neither can I, except that I was glad to receive
it and not a trout.

It's nothing to do with an Instant Messenger. It's out of Douglas
Adams's *Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy*--a book long-time TB! user
Dierk Haasis introduced me to within weeks of my getting TB! and
showing up on tbudl and tbot. Trillian in that book (actually, a
series of books) is sort of lost in space. Trill is too, sometimes.

LG http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php

LG Once I build it for her, she'll have an administrative interface to
LG the MySQL DB to manage the PCWSmileys to include deletions, renaming
LG handles, overwriting, categorizing and other things for the user
LG submitted images.

I will do my best to be a help to all of you.

LG She'll also receive some training on how to correct image flaws or
LG broken images (we'll cross that bridge when we get to it! :grin: )

Leif promised to be a support to me! Everyone please remember that!
:)

LG She is without a doubt to any of the mods as the perfect person for
LG the job.

blushing Now, where did I leave that blushing smiley!!?  Hmm.

LG Thanks for taking it on Mary. ...

My pleasure.

LG We know you'll do a great job!

I'll try. I promise to do my very best.

LG P.S. Don't screw it up! :grin:

I wouldn't dare, would I?  But somebody will rescue me, please, if I
get into trouble?

LG Tagline of the day:
LG Bet you can't stop reading here --- I knew it...

I'm stopping, I'm stopping!  LOL

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Re: The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
Britt Henrikson, [BH] wrote:

 In my experience TB behaves the same in folders with identical
 settings.

 What exactly do you mean by 'settings'? Column settings? They are
 the same in every folder.

Oh. This is likely the root of your problem. You're assuming all the
folders are the same.

When you open a message in its own window, you're actually opening a
browse window for that folder. That window goes through the messages
using its own message list, whether or not you have that message list
displayed. Display the message list for a view folder window by going
to View//Message List. This message list can be adjusted to sort
messages in a different way from the main window. Each folder can be
configured to sort message lists differently, depending on the folder
view mode you configure the folder to use.

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Allie Martin
Plan9, [P] wrote:

 Since you are using 2.11.02 and not one of the later betas you must
 edit the PDSF.msl to include items from the rogues and pcwsmiliys.
 I've sent you a copy of my PDSF.msl by PM so you can see what needs to
 be done.

With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e., pdsf2.msl
and rougues.msl.

For those using a non-beta, you can use only one msl file. The one to
use would be pdsf2.msl. It's already altered to include all the
roguemoticons as well as those normally provided with TB!. Delete
pdsf.msl and rougues.msl. Rename pdsf2.msl to pdsf.msl and you should
now be ready.

Don't forget to use the RTV and not the PTV when viewing mail

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Re: Deleting message when downloading header

2004-07-06 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello Feli,

On Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 10:26:19 AM, you wrote:

F you could change your settings to leave all messages for 1 day on the
F server. So yiu have time to download the large mails.
That is possible, but (and I do like TB! very much) I like the
way OE handles that better.

Also the part about sending a message back to the sender about
big mails (or any mail that is not downloaded) is Handled better
in OE. I find this lacking in TB! where you have to use some
regex rules to determin the sender and then create the mail. (and
not able to the selective download filter for that.)

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Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:09:30 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 23:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack?
BH Not quite all, only the ones I need: 12 languages.
BH So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed it?

How do you try to call it?
Via the menu or via the %language=am macro in a template?

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Re: The buttons 'previous' and 'next'

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:56:50 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 22:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 In my experience TB behaves the same in folders with identical
 settings.
BH What exactly do you mean by 'settings'? Column settings? They are the
BH same in every folder.

Thread by references, sort on created date, that kind of things, not
to forget purging settings.

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ThreadMark as read

2004-07-06 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi List,

I can select Thread  mark as read from the context menu, but the corresponding key 
assignment shown (Shift+Ctrl+M) doesn't do it. I don't know if earlier versions 
worked, as I have just discovered this feature. What am I doing wrong? 

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Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cyrille,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:59:09 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 22:59 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C   I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat!
C   When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error
C   message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end
C   with CRLF.CRLF.

TB expects a server reply like:
354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF
The actual text isn't important, what is important is the number. It
looks like something is preventing a proper synchronized connection
between TB an X-Ray.

The problem could be a virus scanner that checks outgoing mail or a
firewall that does some checking on attachments.


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Re: Read mails are still marked as unread

2004-07-06 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Tuesday, July 6, 2004 @ 9:12:33 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

[snips]

 When I read lots of mails in a row, some read msgs are still marked as
 unread afterwards. Is this a bug?

Marck It would depend on the Mark messages read after... setting in the
Marck account properties. If you skim a mail too quickly it may not have
Marck time to register as read.

Even if the time is set to zero (0).

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Re: Outgoing attachments are also saved in Attach folder?!

2004-07-06 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Wednesday, July 7, 2004 @ 12:09:29 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:

[snips]

BH But all the attachments that I myself send are also saved in that
BH folder?! I don't want them there, I have them elsewhere on my PC,
BH and I don't see why TB should save them on the hard disk at all.

Roelof That's easily explained. Suppose you're collecting stamps and you've
Roelof got a list with stamps you're looking for. You send that list to a
Roelof friend, meanwhile you add stamps to your collection and delete them
Roelof from your list.
Roelof Some time later you'd like to check how many changes you've made to
Roelof the list you sent in order to decide whether you should post a new
Roelof one.
Roelof The only way this is possible is by having a copy somewhere. Therefore
Roelof just as TB saves the messages it sent, it also saves the attachments
Roelof it sent. Anything else wouldn't be acceptable.

Roelof, that's a terrific explanation, but the bottom line is that it's a really 
bizarre behaviour for an email client to have.

Keeping a list of stamps and making a copy of them is completely different.

Attachments should stay exactly where they were before being attached - ie, where I 
put them to begin with.

The email should note which attachments were sent, but no more.

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Re[2]: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Allie,

Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 3:23:14 PM, you wrote:

 For those using a non-beta,

Thanks...works great now! :-)


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Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray

2004-07-06 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello Cyrille,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:59:09 +0200 UTC, Cyrille wrote:

C   I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat!
C   When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error
C   message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end
C   with CRLF.CRLF.

C   What does this mean?

C   What is going wrong?

I don't have any clue about the programs you're using, but assuming that
X-ray is handing your messages off to an smtpd, the smtpd doesn't like
the way X-ray is sending a message. Specifically, the smtpd expects a
message to be terminated with CRLF.CRLF. Here's a transcript from a
smtp session which you can replicate (see if you can find the
CRLF.CRLF:

$ telnet mail.nednieuws.com 25
Trying 64.247.11.80...
Connected to mail.nednieuws.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 sun.procreatie.nl ESMTP
ehlo localhost
250-sun.procreatie.nl
250-PIPELINING
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE 209715200
250 AUTH LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5
mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
data
354 go ahead
Subject: This is a test.
A very nice test.
.
250 ok 1089159589 qp 74064
quit
221 sun.procreatie.nl
Connection closed by foreign host.

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Re: Do I need the strange address books? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:02:32 +0200 UTC, Britt Henrikson wrote:

 Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you
 state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid
 like you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...

BH I'm not aware of having asked any question about this...? Or maybe I
BH did that in May?

No. You stated this in the first message you posted. Something like:
I've learnt since that 

 What are Certum CA Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, Verisign,
 Intermediate CA and Trusted Root CA and why are they delivered with
 TB? I have ventured to delete them all. Are they necessary in a way
 that I'm not aware of?

 I'm not using TB! right now, but they most probably are root 
 certificates. You need them to verify if someone's certificate (which
 has been issued by one of those CA's [certificate authorities]) is valid.

BH Oh, sh-t... So I shouldn't have deleted them. But I suppose they can
BH be downloaded and installed again?

If TB! can import certs, you could try exporting them from your browser
and then importing again in TB!. Don't have a clue if that will work, so
go play :).

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Re: Rogues Smilies (WAS: Re: Import from Outlook fails)

2004-07-06 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 6:23:14 PM, Allie wrote:

AM With each roguemoticon download, you get two files, i.e., pdsf2.msl
AM and rougues.msl.
AM For those using a non-beta, you can use only one msl file. The one to
AM use would be pdsf2.msl. It's already altered to include all the
AM roguemoticons as well as those normally provided with TB!. Delete
AM pdsf.msl and rougues.msl. Rename pdsf2.msl to pdsf.msl and you should
AM now be ready.
AM Don't forget to use the RTV and not the PTV when viewing mail

An excellent way to deal with version 2.11.02 provided you do not want
to access smileys too.  In fact this is what I do and just append smiley
lines from pcwsmileys.msl to PDSF.msl

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Re: HTML backgrounds?

2004-07-06 Thread John Phillips

Hi Roelof,
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, at 18:43:41 [GMT+0200] (which was Wed, 2:43:41
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 BTW You're one of the few on this list who will have understood my
 garbling of languages. Of course I meant 'templates' in stead of
 'sjablones' and as far as I know the latter isn't a proper word in any
 language.


Well, we have abalone in Australia  - a much prized shellfish, and a
delicacy for Chinese (to me it tastes like rubber).

So I suppose a sjablone is a slab of abalones?

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Re: Some Smilies incomplete

2004-07-06 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alan!

On Tuesday, July 06, 2004, 8:41 PM, you wrote:

AT I notice that some of the smilies (from the pcwsmilies file, I think)
AT do not display fully in my version of the bat. The right hand side of
AT some is truncated. The following are examples:

AT :hooray:

The one I see is truncated here, also.

AT :pointmade:

And this one, cut in half.

AT Also, :bearhug: ends up with four arms, not two!

Is it not supposed to be that way? Since I keep dragging h2g2 in?

I didn't know any better. We have so many wild-and-woolly ones in the
database that I honestly thought it was a 4-armed bear.

AT When the GIFs are viewed with the Windows viewer they are fine.

Ah. But that is a dangerous practice, isn't it?

AT Any ideas? Maybe I just need to wait for a later Bat version?

This is going to need the attention of both Leif and 9Val, in my
opinion. Did you look in your files to be sure it is not Bat Images
rather than pcwizesmiley .gifs that these little half-chicks come
from?

AT This is not intended as a test of Mary's skills as the Smilies
AT Support and Maintenance Guru :-)
  
Hey, I'm just the gofer!! But I did agree to take responsibility for
any errors that I myself make! Thank you for bringing this up. I'm
sure it will get solved pretty soon. :)

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Re: error when mailing attachment via x-ray

2004-07-06 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 7 July 2004, 6:59:09 +1000, Cyrille wrote:
   I use X-ray (for SMTP) with TheBat!
   When ever I try to send a mail with an attached file I get an error
   message Message has not been sent. Server reply - t mail input; end
   with CRLF.CRLF.
 
   What does this mean?

Don't know

   What is going wrong?

Don't know, but I also experienced that when I installed X-Ray v1.0. I
have gone back to v0.2.0 (the previous version) which works without any
problems.

That was my solution.

The X-Ray site offers earlier versions, but does not appear to include
v0.2.0 so if you want to try it, I can send it to you directly by PM.

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Re: ThreadMark as read

2004-07-06 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Christopher,

on Tue, 06 Jul 2004 15:42:28 -0700GMT, you wrote:

CB I can select Thread  mark as read from the context menu, but
CB the corresponding key assignment shown (Shift+Ctrl+M) doesn't do
CB it. I don't know if earlier versions worked, as I have just
CB discovered this feature. What am I doing wrong? 

The shortcut works here when the focus is on the message list.

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