Re: Is there a printout or sample of all smileys?
Hello Lynn, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to implement Robin's macro (I've got as far as copying it to a text file, but the docs are less than helpful .. they tell you how to write them, but not where to put them), but I have a quandary. Options - Quick templates - Add (I ain't got TB here, so I'm rembering this) Use the name Robin gave to the QT, since it calls itself recursively I suppose there's no way to define the editor you want to use for a particular folder .. ? No -- Groetjes, Roelof via webmail, so I hope my cutmark is ok Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Is there a printout or sample of all smileys?
Sunday, September 5, 2004, 11:02:20 PM, you wrote: I suppose there's no way to define the editor you want to use for a particular folder .. ? RO No Well, that's certainly clear enough :-) Would be very useful, though .. even it it had to be done with a macro; there is really only one place I'd like to use these things, almost all of my correspondents would faint on the spot if they suddenly started getting anything but plain text from me, and then there are these lists which frown heartily on anything but plain text. Wish list ..? Thanks .. Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
define editor per folder (was: Is there a printout or sample of all smileys?)
Hello Lynn, Would be very useful, though .. even it it had to be done with a macro; I suppose it would be as useful as html templates there is really only one place I'd like to use these things, almost all of my correspondents would faint on the spot if they suddenly started getting anything but plain text from me, The average user won't see the difference and then there are these lists which frown heartily on anything but plain text. g Wish list ..? Might be listed already, but I wouldn't know -- Groetjes, Roelof via webmail, so I hope my cutmark is ok Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CSAPI spell checker
Good morning, The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). On another computer I use v.2.11 on Win ME (with MS Office 2000) , there everything works fine. Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.12.00, Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello all, Monday, September 6, 2004, Cyrille wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). On another computer I use v.2.11 on Win ME (with MS Office 2000) , there everything works fine. Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? CSAPI engine was changed in Office since Office 2000 and it is not possible to use it, MS changed licence AFAIK. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.0 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Indexing messages
Dear Dan, -- Donnerstag, 2. September 2004, 17:49:52: TheBat! = Folder = New Virtual Folder Thanks Dan for this hand tool. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Rant
Hello Michael, Join The Bat Rant and yell all you want about the Bat! for free! You hate them, don't you? ;-) Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.0 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Believe those who are seeking truth, doubt those who find it. - Andre' Gide = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 50 Total Clean Emails: 11 BayesIT guessed right 99.96% of the time My email is 81.967213% spam = morning dayevening 21:41 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQTvqlW2u7N+Qh+ieEQIMwgCgiC/GfpADsPJ+urqJmvKR+PqzZHoAoNrn Sh20CCL0l3J0VyMTLu8S7TO/ =nXK4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- I know it is all after the Cut Mark and it will not be quoted when replying but, is all this necessary? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Marek, Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? CSAPI engine was changed in Office since Office 2000 and it is not possible to use it, MS changed licence AFAIK. I have a solution or workaround working, but I can't expand now. Maybe tonight. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Rant
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Sun, 5 Sep 2004, at 21:41:54 -0700, @ @ when Michael L. Wilson wrote: Hi, Join The Bat Rant and yell all you want about the Bat! for free! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yelling? (: For free? (: A TB Hide Park? (-: I couldn't yell for free. I couldn't yell even if am paid for this. (: I caught a cold. Are the walls there soft? (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPDp89q62QPd3XuIRAttzAJ9UGYXWF1WCex2QEMasDs9NQ46g3wCgjajG AHAC24IcP3WHQ7HCyQTkTxQ= =ZBbr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hi Cyrille, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, at 10:36:14 [GMT+0200] (which was 18:36:14 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. If that is the case, the help (?) file is way out of date. IIRC, this feature hasn't worked now for a few years? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Sign on baby's bib: SPIT HAPPENS. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Cyrille, On Monday, September 6, 2004 you wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). On another computer I use v.2.11 on Win ME (with MS Office 2000) , there everything works fine. Some ideas ? You have to install files from Office 2000 with appropriate registry entries. HTH, no time to give more info now. -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/ send_key in subject. /_ Using The Bat! 3.0.0 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Weak...
Hello, ...oh well, too much time on my hands and I'm running v3 now - those new glyphs are quite something ;-) Can anyone tell me if bayesit will allow me to remove messages marked as spam from the server in v3? I'm using Popfile right now for that reason alone. -- Nick Playing with TheBat!: v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01. Twice now the connection center has hung up when downloading mail; it shows a message received 100% but just hangs there, with the message not showing up in the inbox. If I abort the task and start over, it's already been deleted by the server and is therefore lost. Any suggestions as to the possible cause and what to do about it? BTW - I apologize if this problem has been posted by others already - I gave up trying to keep up with the flood of postings over the upgrade itself and so may have missed it. -- Thanks, Rick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Richard, Monday, September 6, 2004, 2:30:50 PM, you wrote: I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01 I have read about v3 and BayesIt problem so very often here and on TBBeta that my first try (if I were using it *g*) would be to get rid of that darn BayesIt thing. :-) Maybe it helps. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Marek, Monday, September 6, 2004, 6:57:40 AM, you wrote: Monday, September 6, 2004, Cyrille wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? CSAPI engine was changed in Office since Office 2000 and it is not possible to use it, MS changed licence AFAIK. This is what is said on Microsoft's website: [Start quote...] CSAPI may not be used to call into Microsoft's spell check engine and lexicon. For example, third-party developers who want to incorporate spell check capabilities into their own applications may not use CSAPI to access the spell check engine and lexicons that are installed by Microsoft Office. Microsoft does not currently provide spell check utilities for use in third-party products. [...End quote] Here's the URL for those who want to read the whole text: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262605 The above text is related to MS Office 2000/2002(XP). So, basically TB! is already violating the above quote. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior Software Developer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Richard! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 7:30 AM, you wrote: RHS I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01. Twice now the RHS connection center has hung up when downloading mail ... This problem is being addressed by many through using BayesFilter rather than BayesIT. Here's a quote from a post on tbbeta just this morning, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried this technique this morning and The Bat! errored out during the mail poll and I had to use the Task Manager to terminate it. This happened twice in a row. I removed BayesIt and installed BayesFilter and the next poll worked fine with no errors. That's Kevin Coates, as quoted by Eddie Castelli, who has the problem and says he will try BF. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:30:50 +0500 (8:30 AM here), Richard H. Stoddard [RHS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RHS I have just upgraded to v.3 and BayesIt 0.6.01. Twice now the RHS connection center has hung up when downloading mail; it shows a RHS message received 100% but just hangs there, with the message not RHS showing up in the inbox. I don't have any solutions for you Rick, but wanted to let you know that you are not alone. I have been experiencing exactly the same problem. Using an alternative called Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.2, I do not experience this problem. http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php My BayesIt problems seem to occur on larger mail polls of 100-200 messages. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPGsEvZSrVDqOXK0RAqfRAKDlnYPSxRWTbGu5PsUlLQq7kPVSjQCg8oaS YMHrbnXzwtpnHYWxlAn55TY= =dAvQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Krzysztof, Monday, September 6, 2004, 2:16:34 PM, you wrote: The help file says If you have Microsoft Office installed, The Bat! will automatically detect the presence of CSAPI and uses it. I installed and uninstalled v2.12.00 three times, but the TB! does not detect them (MS Office 2003 on Win XP). You have to install files from Office 2000 with appropriate registry entries. HTH, no time to give more info now. Isn't it possible to edit the registry entries manually? Who knows more? -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.12.00, Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Mary, Monday, September 6, 2004, 6:46:12 PM, you wrote: MB This problem is being addressed by many through using BayesFilter MB rather than BayesIT. I'm going to try BayesFilter. I installed it and trained it with a selection of SPAM and non-SPAM. (And deleted - at least for now - BayesIt) Question - should I set all preferences in the filter itself, or should I leave the setting for Move to junk folder is greater than... in TB preferences? -- Thanks, Rick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connections failing...
I have v3 and the new filter system transferred from v2 like a dream and works beautifully. Well worth the upgrade fee alone. However - query: This has always applied since I started using POPFile. Note: BayesIt kept freezing connection centre so I ditched it for POPFile. It works very well except that ever since v2 I have problems with connecting to the POP3 server(s). I have 40 email accounts and wheh I do a check and download all, may of them (not specific ones each time) just appear briefly in the Connection Centre and then disappear as iff they have been checked but they haven't in fact and the message for each of these is Couldn't connect to server. Since many of them are on the same server it seems odd. Is there some time out business going on that is doing it, might it be a limit on concurrent connections with TB or PoopFiel? I need suggestions for what settings I might tweak methodically to isolate the cause of this behaviour. If, immediately after this has happened I go through each accoutn and hit F2 individually they always connect and check. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
Hello Richard! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 10:07 AM, you wrote: MB This problem is being addressed by many through using BayesFilter MB rather than BayesIT. RHS I'm going to try BayesFilter. ... Question - should I set all RHS preferences in the filter itself, or should I leave the setting RHS for Move to junk folder is greater than... in TB preferences? Richard, try Kevin Coates for help with this? See: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm one of the lucky ones who hardly receive an offer of one Spam a week in the Connection Centre. I have never used a Spam filter of any kind. So I don't know anything about either BayesIt or BayesFilter except what I've read on tbbeta. I do want all my fellow TB! users to have things go well, though, and that's why I answered your post. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connections failing...
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], 06-Sep-2004 17:29, you wrote: It works very well except that ever since v2 I have problems with connecting to the POP3 server(s). Have you tried dis-/enabling concurrent POP3 connections in the PopFile config? With 40 accounts... sheeesh... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Men cannot discover new oceans unless he has courage to lose sight of the shore. -- Andre Gide Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connections failing...
Hello Marten! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 10:29 AM, you wrote: aacu I have v3 and the new filter system transferred from v2 like a aacu dream and works beautifully. Well worth the upgrade fee alone. So glad to hear that you're pleased. aacu However - query: aacu This has always applied since I started using POPFile. aacu Note: BayesIt kept freezing connection centre so I ditched it for aacu POPFile. ... Would you want to consider using BayesFilter? Quoting from Kevin Coates in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Using an alternative called Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.2, I do not experience this problem. http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php As I've been writing on that thread, I have never used any Spam filter, because my needs are different from yours and most other TB! users, but I've followed the threads on the subject both here and on tbbeta, in case I ever do need one. Replying to your post here in case what little I know might help. :) So far no one using BayesFilter has reported a problem, as far as my reading and memory go. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connections failing...
Hello Marten, Monday, September 6, 2004, 4:29:23 PM, you wrote: a It works very well except that ever since v2 I have problems with a connecting to the POP3 server(s). a I need suggestions for what settings I might tweak methodically to a isolate the cause of this behaviour. Have a look at this thread: http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2676629 I don't know how accurate this information is, but I've got Allow concurrent POP3 connections: turned on in Popfile, but only check a measly 5 accounts. -- Nick Playing with TheBat!: v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 (and Popfile 0.21.1) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connections failing...
Hello Mary Bull, 06-Sep-2004 17:50, you wrote: aacu POPFile. ... Would you want to consider using BayesFilter? But anyone who used PopFile will never return to any mean spam-filtering plugin... :-P -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) What is a physicist? I was asked on the floor of the house what in the name of common sense a physicist is, and I could not answer. -- Anonymous congressman, 1914 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hi, Can anyone point me to info regarding BayesIT and BayesFilter. What is the difference between them? -- PJ Using TB! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
History of sliced bread
Michael- It's a twentieth-century thing: http://desmoinesregister.com/extras/iowans/rohwedder.html -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connections failing...
Hello Marten! Would you want to consider using BayesFilter? So far no one using BayesFilter has reported a problem, as far as my reading and memory go. As I suggested in my posting - I've tried BayesIt but have ditched it because it freezes the connecion centre completely leaving CTRL-ALT-DEL as the only way out. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connections failing...
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], 06-Sep-2004 17:29, you wrote: Have you tried dis-/enabling concurrent POP3 connections in the PopFile config? Yep. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connections failing...
Hello Marten, Monday, September 6, 2004, 4:29:23 PM, you wrote: a It works very well except that ever since v2 I have problems with a connecting to the POP3 server(s). a I need suggestions for what settings I might tweak methodically to a isolate the cause of this behaviour. Have a look at this thread: http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2676629 So now we need some definitive statement from someone that POPFile can only handle 6 connections at once and ditches the rest. That would fit with the behaviour. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connections failing...
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], 06-Sep-2004 18:43, you wrote: Have you tried dis-/enabling concurrent POP3 connections in the PopFile config? Yep. OK. Windows XP - Service Pack 1 oder Service Pack 2? Could it be you installed SP2 and that happend just about the same time you updated TB? :-) Excerpt from http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2netwk.mspx --- cut --- Limited number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts Detailed description The TCP/IP stack now limits the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. After the limit has been reached, subsequent connection attempts are put in a queue and will be resolved at a fixed rate. Under normal operation, when applications are connecting to available hosts at valid IP addresses, no connection rate-limiting will occur. When it does occur, a new event, with ID 4226, appears in the systems event log. Why is this change important? What threats does it help mitigate? This change helps to limit the speed at which malicious programs, such as viruses and worms, spread to uninfected computers. Malicious programs often attempt to reach uninfected computers by opening simultaneous connections to random IP addresses. Most of these random addresses result in a failed connection, so a burst of such activity on a computer is a signal that it may have been infected by a malicious program. What works differently? This change may cause certain security tools, such as port scanners, to run more slowly. How do I resolve these issues? Stop the application that is responsible for the failing connection attempts. --- cut --- Maybe this applies to you? Resolution (beware, non-MS, inofficial hack) http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=9387 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The scientists split the atom, and now the atom is splitting us. -- Quentin Reynolds Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weak...
On Mon 6-Sep-04 7:36am -0400, Nick Dutton wrote: Can anyone tell me if bayesit will allow me to remove messages marked as spam from the server in v3? I looked for that option also. If you're subscribed to the beta list, you might want to post there also - but use a better subject line :-) -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail disappearing after connection center hangs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 20:07:46 +0500 (11:07 AM here), Richard H. Stoddard [RHS] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RHS I'm going to try BayesFilter. I installed it and trained it with RHS a selection of SPAM and non-SPAM. (And deleted - at least for now RHS - BayesIt) Question - should I set all preferences in the filter RHS itself, or should I leave the setting for Move to junk folder is RHS greater than... in TB preferences? For the most part, I kept the defaults in the filter itself. I did set up a white list that included my mailing lists and my own addresses. I changed the directory structure so BayesFilter and its logs and files reside under /The Bat!. I found this makes it easier to clone my notebook to my desktop using the 7zip archiver and a batch file. I move suspected junk mail to the junk folder, rather than delete it. This facilitates forwarding junk to SpamCop. - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPJ9gvZSrVDqOXK0RAtEFAKC30BC8YFDlIFBdkIhb5O27MZ7x7gCcCvVj SN6beiHDyOIk8ao9Zar2FdE= =LOg3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weak...
Hi TBUDL, ND Can anyone tell me if bayesit will allow me to remove messages marked ND as spam from the server in v3? AFAIK and experienced it will not perform any server-side actions. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.0.0 and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is a natural email system?
dAniel hAhler @ 2004-Sep-5 4:04:29 PM What is a natural email system? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As Alt-PgDn seems to be related to Space, which also scrolls down by one page, there is this very annoying behaviour, when it comes to the last page and it's been scrolled not by one page, but only the amount of lines so that the end of the mail is at bottom of the window. Very annoying, because you mostly lose the line you were reading when it comes to the last page of a mail. I think that all programs should visually indicate where the last line went when one scrolls. Perhaps the line could underlined for a moment before fading out? But, this would only be useful if it were implemented system wide... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. pgpRt26towzXs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
Hello Cyrille, Some ideas ? If TB does not detect them automatically, is there a way to show TB! manually the path to the CSAPI spell checkers ? I used the CSAPI Spanish and UK English spell checkers with Office 97 for some time without any problem. When I upgraded to Office 2000 I could not use them on my desktop but didn't have a problem on my laptop. Finally, when I upgraded to Office XP (which I use now) they wouldn't work either on desktop or laptop. I don't recall exactly where I got the solution from, probably from this list a long time ago. The thing is that I have a Proof.zip file that contains the following: mssp2_es.lex (Spanish dic.) mssp2_en.lex (UK English) Mssp232.dll (CSAPI engine?) spelling.reg (Registry keys for everything to work) The dictionaries and the engine I think are from my Office 97 but, in any case, better than the ones included with TB. The registry key settings (or the idea or explanation on how to set them) if what I got somewhere else. Maybe from this list, as I have said, but not sure. What is sure is the I did not invent' them. Just a few weeks ago I got a new computer and installed everything from scratch, including Office XP (i.e. I did not upgrade from 97 to 200 and then to XP). Then I placed 'my' dictionaries and engine in the directories called for in the registry settings in 'spelling.reg' and finally imported 'spelling.reg into the Registry and I have full access to both CSAPI dictionaries from TB. I have not tried (yet) to use the equivalent dictionaries from Office 2000 or XP, but I assume they will not work. But who knows. Anyway, if any wants to try (at your own risk, of course) this is the content of my 'spelling.reg' (watch out for possible wrapping of long lines either at my or your end): Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\1034] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\1034\Normal] Engine=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL Dictionary=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\mssp2_es.lex [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\1034\Normal\Clients] C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL= [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\2057] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\2057\Normal] Engine=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\mssp232.dll Dictionary=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\mssp2_en.lex [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\2057\Normal\Clients] C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL= [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\Vendor] Inso=C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Proof\\MSSP232.DLL [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Proofing Tools\Spelling\Vendor\Clients] C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\Office10\\WINWORD.EXE= -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Photo handles
Hello, I read about roguemoticons in http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ and I downloaded the zipfile with the photos. But I don't see any photos as in the example on that page. What happens is that now I see a small picture on the right side of the message header. I uploaded a photo of mine, but I don't know where I should write the handle. Is it in the signature? -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Is there a printout or sample of all smileys?
Hello Lynn, Monday, September 6, 2004, 7:16:24 AM, you wrote: L Would be very useful, though .. even it it had to be done L with a macro; there is really only one place I'd like to L use these things, almost all of my correspondents would L faint on the spot if they suddenly started getting L anything but plain text from me, and then there are these L lists which frown heartily on anything but plain text. L Wish list ..? It's in my wishlist at least. I keep forgetting to change the messages to TBUL to plain text and so I received several messages already saying that the content is not appropriate to the list. (The first time I thought I had used some foul language, which is not my habit at all). :) -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hi Paul, PJ Can anyone point me to info regarding BayesIT and BayesFilter. PJ What is the difference between them? BayesIT will actually work if you can get it installed. I've never been able to get the other one to do anything except grab program focus for a couple of seconds and then give me a OK dialog that needs to be dismissed saying, One messages processed. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.0.0 and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: History of sliced bread
Mark, MW http://desmoinesregister.com/extras/iowans/rohwedder.html Didn't know that one and I grew up in the Quad Cities (Davenport). Thank;) -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.0.0 and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connections failing...
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], 06-Sep-2004 18:43, you wrote: Have you tried dis-/enabling concurrent POP3 connections in the PopFile config? Yep. OK. Windows XP - Service Pack 1 oder Service Pack 2? Could it be you installed SP2 and that happend just about the same time you updated TB? :-) I have but it was happening before that as well... Limited number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts Detailed description The TCP/IP stack now limits the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. After the limit has been reached, subsequent... Maybe this applies to you? As I said it is not happening since SP2. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Photo handles
Hello Cristina, Monday, September 6, 2004, 7:40:30 PM, you wrote: CR Hello, CR I read about roguemoticons in http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ and I CR downloaded the zipfile with the photos. CR But I don't see any photos as in the example on that page. What CR happens is that now I see a small picture on the right side of the CR message header. CR I uploaded a photo of mine, but I don't know where I should write the CR handle. Is it in the signature? It's best to put the following into your template: %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Puella63:)%- -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Is there a printout or sample of all smileys?
Monday, September 6, 2004, 10:48:30 AM, you wrote: CR It's in my wishlist at least. I keep forgetting to CR change the messages to TBUL to plain text and so I CR received several messages already saying that the CR content is not appropriate to the list. (The first CR time I thought I had used some foul language, which CR is not my habit at all). :) I can't remember where to go to check the current status of the wishlist, but someone hopefully will post it? As text is my general default and I don't really need the rtf editor it's not a huge issue for me, but I might use it if I could use it selectively. Lynn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0 NT5 SP4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Weak...
Hello Bill, Monday, September 6, 2004, 11:58:49 AM, you wrote: BM On Mon 6-Sep-04 7:36am -0400, Nick Dutton wrote: Can anyone tell me if bayesit will allow me to remove messages marked as spam from the server in v3? BM I looked for that option also. If you're subscribed to the beta list, BM you might want to post there also - but use a better subject line :-) I don't believe it does, however you could try the following. Set up BayesIt to move your Spam to the Junk folder. (Do not use a common junk folder or this won't work.) Do NOT let BayesIt mark as read. Create a Read filter that sends the message to the Junk folder and is set to Delete Message from Server Now when you check your messages, to ensure they are Junk, they will get marked as read, sent to you Junk folder and deleted from server. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weak...
On Mon 6-Sep-04 1:15pm -0400, Stuart Cuddy wrote: BM I looked for that option also. If you're subscribed to the beta list, BM you might want to post there also - but use a better subject line :-) I don't believe it does, however you could try the following. Set up BayesIt to move your Spam to the Junk folder. (Do not use a common junk folder or this won't work.) Do NOT let BayesIt mark as read. Create a Read filter that sends the message to the Junk folder and is set to Delete Message from Server Now when you check your messages, to ensure they are Junk, they will get marked as read, sent to you Junk folder and deleted from server. Thanks Stuart, that appears to be a good solution. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hello, I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be welcome! Can I expect it to be faster then the current default plugin in V3.0? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tenure as List Moderator Ends
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:05:32 PM, you wrote: AM Hello , AM I knew that I'd eventually have to do this, but I didn't predict that AM it would be now, especially with all that has been recently happening. AM Though they may seem to be connected, they really aren't. AM I'll be stepping down as one of the moderators of the lists (TBUDL, AM TBBETA and TBTECH), effective as of now. AM Unfortunately, I can no longer consistently find the time, nor am I AM able to provide the sort of list coverage that I used to which has for AM some time, made moderating for me, very difficult. It's no longer the AM enjoyable, though, hard work it used to be and with this essential AM ingredient (enjoyment) missing, I thought it best to stop. AM It was not an easy decision to make since I've had some really good AM times moderating the lists over the years. I've made some special AM friendships, and it was really great assisting with running such a AM great effort which has improved support for many TB! users so that AM they can maximize their use of TB!. AM Note that I'll not be leaving the lists entirely. I'll still be AM around, but no longer as an official trouter. Heartfelt thanks for all your help to us newbies over the years. Without you and the rest of the team, I would have given up on The Bat long ago. As it is, The Bat does a great job. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...The only person getting his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hello Doug, I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be welcome! Use x-header. You can filter on it just as well and, if you reply, you don't bother anyone with a modified subject. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hi Paul, On Monday, September 6, 2004 16:41 our local time, Paul Jansen [PJ] wrote; PJ What is the difference between them? I've been using BayesFilter for about a month now after using SpamPal for a while and am extremely satisfied with the results. After training it with about 850 spam mails and 2,000ish ham mails, it seems to work really well for me! I also use the DNS blacklist, which is a great feature that I loved from SpamPal. I installed the latest version on Saturday along with TB! V3, and my stats so far are; HamMails: 2475 SpamMails: 1683 Detected Ham: 1035 (99.9%) Detected Spam: 840 (99.8%) FALSE Ham detected: 1 FALSE Spam detected: 1 I can't really comment on Bayesit, but I did use it a while back, until it decided to stop working after a TB! version upgrade. Hope that helps ;-) -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hello, I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be wel I make it alter the subject line so that: a) I know what I am sending if I forward or reply to the email (manually delete any addition)... b) I can click on it to get directly to the change classificatiion page of POPFile. Can I expect it to be faster then the current default plugin in V3.0? In my experience you can expect it to be 100 per cent faster. I./e: BayesIt kills The Bat every time, POPFile doesn't. And I find POPFile so much easier to control - I didn't have aclue what was going on with BayesIt. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smilies
Hello tbudl, I know this is probably a silly question, but how does one use smilies? Sorry if this has been covered over and over, but I can't seem to find it within all of the thousands of messages :-) -- Take care, Kathy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Photo handles
Hello Mark, Monday, September 6, 2004, 6:57:38 PM, you wrote: MP Hello Cristina, MP Monday, September 6, 2004, 7:40:30 PM, you wrote: CR Hello, CR I read about roguemoticons in http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ and I CR downloaded the zipfile with the photos. CR But I don't see any photos as in the example on that page. What CR happens is that now I see a small picture on the right side of the CR message header. CR I uploaded a photo of mine, but I don't know where I should write the CR handle. Is it in the signature? MP It's best to put the following into your template: MP %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Puella63:)%- I must be doing something wrong because it's not working. Here is my Template: %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Puella63:)%- Hello %OFromFName, %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote: %Quotes %Cursor -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:%FromAddr %THEBATVERSION -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
quoting only selected text
I'm using an old version of TB!, and the thing that most irritates me about it is its clumsy handling of selected text for quoting when replying. I see there was a thread about this here a month or so ago, but I can't find definitive answers there. In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting only selected text? Better yet, is it possible to configure the standard reply and forward keys so that if nothing is highlighted, the entire message is quoted, but if anything is highlighted, only that part is quoted? Or is there a macro for grabbing only selected text rather than all of it? -- Mike TB! v1.60q Hamster Classic 2.0 (Build 2.0.4.0) Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smilies
Hello Kathy, On 06 September 2004, 15:11 -0400 (06/09/200420:11 local time) Kathy Dunham [KD] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KD I know this is probably a silly question, but how does one use KD smilies? Sorry if this has been covered over and over, but I can't KD seem to find it within all of the thousands of messages :-) Right-click in the preview pane and check Smileys. -- Best regards, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 Quote of the day: I've learnt more from my failures than my successes. RICHARD BRANSON Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Photo handles
Hello Cristina, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR I must be doing something wrong because it's not working. CR Here is my Template: Have you also put the following in Options/Preferences/Message headers? : Click on add and put under Display As and RFC X-Rogue. Say no to address list and Scroll and yes to Editor. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgpjtm5LxxhE2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Photo handles
Hello Cristina, Monday, September 6, 2004, 9:41:20 PM, you wrote: MP It's best to put the following into your template: MP %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Puella63:)%- CR I must be doing something wrong because it's not working. CR Here is my Template: CR %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Puella63:)%- CR Hello %OFromFName, Do you use a folder-template? I mean a template that is specifically used in 1 folder? And if so, is the line %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Puella63:)%- in it? I guess you are actually using another template than the one you inserted in your message. Or, at least, there is one that overwrites the result of the one you showed us. Anyway, there isn't an X-Rogue headerfield in your message (look at the header with Ctrl-Shift-K). Now look at my message, and you will see one. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Photo handles
Hello Richard, Monday, September 6, 2004, 8:56:27 PM, you wrote: RW Have you also put the following in RW Options/Preferences/Message headers? RW : RW Click on add and put under Display As and RFC X-Rogue. Say no to RW address list and Scroll and yes to Editor. No I hadn't. Thanks. Let's see if it's working now. -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIT and BayesFilter
PJ Can anyone point me to info regarding BayesIT and BayesFilter. PJ What is the difference between them? BayesIT will actually work if you can get it installed. I've never been able to get the other one to do anything except grab program focus for a couple of seconds and then give me a OK dialog that needs to be dismissed saying, One messages processed. Thanks; any tips on how to successfully get BayesIT installed? -- PJ Using TB! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Photo handles
Hello Mark, Monday, September 6, 2004, 9:07:35 PM, you wrote: MP Anyway, there isn't an X-Rogue headerfield in your message (look at the MP header with Ctrl-Shift-K). MP Now look at my message, and you will see one. As a matter of fact I had notice the difference between the headers and was wondering how you had that headerfield. Meanwhile Richard's message solved that doubt. I can see my picrute now. Thanks -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
MAU- Monday, September 6, 2004, 10:45:19 AM, you wrote: Wow. Thanks. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hello Doug Weller, 06-Sep-2004 20:37, you wrote: I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be welcome! I don't like the subjects to be altered (you have to think of it each time when you reply/forward unless you clean the subject in TB! with a regex-enhanced template for replies and forwards) - obviously, I'm using the x-text-classification header. :) This has other advantages: you can configure TB! to show the header, as well as the reclassification URL of PopFile in the header pane of the preview window, thus checking wether the classification is correct and, in case PopFile made a wrong classification, reclassify is only one click away. *nice* Can I expect it to be faster then the current default plugin in V3.0? Depending on how much mail you get (well, being on this list alone brings quite some each day ATM...) it may be slower (but I used BayesIt only a very short time). After all PopFile is written in Perl, and Bayes analysis requires a database (mine is 1.4MB right now). And be aware that PopFile can be quite a resource hog - using concurrent POP connections results in 100% CPU-load peaks during mail retrieval, and memory usage is something like 20MB here, always. Another note: of course, every Bayes filter requires training - it needs to know which messages is spam, which is ham, at least (but keeping only spam and ham apart is not all PopFile will do for you, of course). That is so much easier in PopFile with the use of magnets. For example, set up a magnet that will put every mail from this list into a bucket genuine (or whatever you want to call it) - PopFile learns from every magneted message and you have a big ham database in no time. JFYI: I have seven buckets in PopFile (english, german, spam, invoices, newsletters, ebay, orders) and run the program since 21-Jul-2004. Accuracy is 98.51% at the moment, with a total of 4313 messages classified and 64 classification errors. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I'm afraid of losing my obscurity. Genuineness only thrives in the dark. Like celery. (Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963, British author) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Photo handles
Hello Cristina, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR Meanwhile Richard's message solved that doubt. I can see my picrute CR now. Yup, all in the nice sunshine too. A lovely city Lisbon. -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgprGLsLRd6uu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
adress book makros
Hello, i use TB a lot for online auctions and make adress book entries for all my customers. What i want to do, but can't figure out how to, is the following: somebody i don't have in my adress book writes me, i add them to adress book and reply - but i want to reply with e.g. Hello firstname lastname, with the info from the adress book and not the name, the sender of the to be replied mail uses, e.g., if he / she doesn't use a name after all, i just have Hello emailadress,... I hope, i made myself clear, what i want to do and someone can help me... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connections failing...
Hello admin! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 11:42 AM, you wrote: MB Would you want to consider using BayesFilter? MB So far no one using BayesFilter has reported a problem, as far as MB my reading and memory go. aacu As I suggested in my posting - I've tried BayesIt but have ^^^ aacu ditched it because it freezes the connecion centre completely aacu leaving CTRL-ALT-DEL as the only way out. BayesFilter is not the same thing as BayesIt. People who had the behavior you describe reported that they do not have that difficulty using BayesFilter. In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Coates said: Using an alternative called Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.2, I do not experience this problem. http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php . I went to that URL just now to see what it said. Found this (partial quote). It is Achim's page: 30.09.04 I released a new version (v1.5.2) of the Bayes Filter Plugin with many new features and bugfixes. Please read the The Bat! section for more information! Of course, as Alexander Kunz pointed out to me in this thread, you may not want a plug-in, since you prefer PopFile. If so, I apologize for taking up your time. As I said, up to now, I don't have any Spam offered to me on the Message Dispatcher--at most one or two a week. But the threads on tbbeta in regard to the BayesIt freeze all indicate that using BayesFilter instead fixes that problem. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Paul, PJ Can anyone point me to info regarding BayesIT and BayesFilter. PJ What is the difference between them? BayesIT will actually work if you can get it installed. I've never been able to get the other one to do anything except grab program focus for a couple of seconds and then give me a OK dialog that needs to be dismissed saying, One messages processed. PJ Thanks; any tips on how to successfully get BayesIT installed? vbg This is the problem; I have this addressed along with several other testers on TBBETA with no answer yet. The next thing on my list is to do a complete re-install of v3 and get it working. I don't think the latest Bayesit will even be recognized as a plugin by the TB v3.0.6 so don't even try it. I believe bayesit v061 will work with TB v3.0 as an upgrade from what is originally supplied with the full version of TB. That's all I know for now. -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.0 Beta/1 and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
search for certain strings in mail body?
Hello, is it possible to search for certain strings in the body of a mail and use it somehow? e.g. onetwosold (austrian equivalent to ebay): i get the mail from them containing info that article x with price y was sold to customer z. what i want to do now, is to auto-generate an answer and send it to the customer, with the info used in the new mail, e.g. Hello z, you bought x for y ... -- Regards, Ralph Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: adress book makros
Hello Ralph, 06-Sep-2004 22:47, you wrote: somebody i don't have in my adress book writes me, i add them to adress book and reply - but i want to reply with e.g. Hello firstname lastname, with the info from the adress book and not the name, the sender of the to be replied mail uses, e.g., if he / she doesn't use a name after all, i just have Hello emailadress,... You maybe already have an adress book group for your customers (if not, create one). Simply open the properties of that group and adjust the templates for new messages and/or replies, using macros that pull the information from the adress book (like %ABFromFName, etc. - refer to the helpfile section Macros). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If a dog's prayers were answered, bones would rain from the sky. -- Turkish Proverb Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version3 ?!
Ha! Not only is Ritlabs giving us a hard time with the release of V3, now TBUDL won't display messages I sent!! On Wed 1 September 2004, 20:35:56 +1000, Mau wrote: I think I will stick with 2.12 and look for another client :( If you don't want to upgrade for whatever reason, I suggest you stay with 2.12 (bugs included). You are not going to find anything better out there at the moment. Maybe prettier, but not better. I think I will go back to v2.11, 2.12 frequently stalls and fails to respond to me, won't display messages in folders and for what? Smileys I don't want, pretty pictures in the header area?? No thanks! -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: quoting only selected text
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Mon, 6 Sep 2004, at 14:54:55 -0500, @ @ when Michael L. Cusac wrote: In newer versions of TB!, is it possible to 'reply all' while quoting only selected text? Right click on the preview pane: Message Reply to All quoting selected text. (In v2.12) - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBPNhL9q62QPd3XuIRAkRyAJ4whcaatMvuOcRTHRCuX7f2i+0T1wCfUKKR d64JCSuKPKxVZU3JkAEJNic= =m4rL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version3 ?!
Hello Robin, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RA Smileys I RA don't want, pretty pictures in the header area?? Then right click in the message and unselect them. Smilies are everywhere and in all forms of messaging, it's just that TB! has the capability to convert them to pretty pictures - your choice whether you see them or not. The same with the senders pictures (or yours for that matter as it's showing here so you can't be too averse to it and you must have uploaded it to the rogues gallery). Right click in the header and uncheck header photo. This way TB! caters for everyone without wasting any bandwidth in sending as the photos and smiley icons are taken from your PC when you downloaded them. I have editied my smiley list because, like you, I find a lot of them a waste of time but I do like the common ones in picture form. Each to their own and TB! gives everyone the chance to customise to their taste. I reckon that's a plus but, due to the fractious nature of many at this present time, I'll probably be shot down in flames ;-) -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgpp1rA4cg2En.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hello Alexander, JFYI: I have seven buckets in PopFile (english, german, spam, invoices, newsletters, ebay, orders) and run the program since 21-Jul-2004. Accuracy is 98.51% at the moment, with a total of 4313 messages classified and 64 classification errors. Similarly to you I use 9 buckets, two of them for Spanish and English, and this my performance: Classification Accuracy Messages classified: 192,991 Classification errors: 323 Accuracy: 99.83% I use one of the buckets as a virus _detector_ and, including the training period, this are the results so far: Bucket virus Messages classified: 8,219 (4.25%) False Positives: 21 False negatives: 56 And it hasn't had any wrong classification in many months now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version3 ?!
Hello Richard! On Monday, September 06, 2004, 4:38 PM, you wrote: RW Each to their own and TB! gives everyone the chance to customise RW to their taste. I reckon that's a plus but, due to the fractious RW nature of many at this present time, I'll probably be shot down in RW flames ;-) Indeed, I hope not, Richard!! The paragraphs preceding the one above in your post were clearly, courteously, and cogently put. It's just a matter of learning to manage the features. And for that, help is always available here on tbudl. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT and BayesFilter
On Mon 6-Sep-04 3:52pm -0400, Neal Laugman wrote: PJ Thanks; any tips on how to successfully get BayesIT PJ installed? vbg This is the problem; I have this addressed along with several other testers on TBBETA with no answer yet. I've had no problem with installing it. v3 comes with it located in, usually, C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt. That version is 0.6.0. There's a newer version available at: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit061.rar The newer version has two new files, bayesit.INC and bayesit.LNC. It's missing the language file: bayesit.lng. So when I upgraded, I moved the files to a new subdirectory I called 060, UNRARed to the BayesIt directory and copied the missing language file from my 060 directory. You install by selecting Options/Preferences then select Anti-Spam on the left. The Anti-Spam plugin box will be empty (because you haven't installed yet, or you moved the files and deleted the 0.6.0 plugin). Click add and select the plugin. Select it and configure it. Click on Do you speak.. and make sure the language file is selected. Click on Options and see where its placing its files and the log. Click OK - you're mostly done. Finish the options under Anit-spam. I kept Out of 100... as Average and I checked Move a message.. (as 60) Mark stored... and Move message Then click OK again. For convenience, hit Alt-F12 (Tools/Edit shortcut..) to pick a shortcut for Mark as junk (under Special). I believe that's all I did and it seems to be working OK. However I haven't been using it long enough to give an opinion on how well it does its job. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version3 ?!
Hello Mary, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MB Indeed, I hope not, Richard!! The paragraphs preceding the one above MB in your post were clearly, courteously, and cogently put. Bless you :-) -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgpnBgpS1ovGW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hi Alexander, Monday, September 6, 2004, 9:45:09 PM, you wrote: Alexander Hello Doug Weller, Alexander 06-Sep-2004 20:37, you wrote: I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be welcome! Alexander I don't like the subjects to be altered (you have to think of it each time Alexander when you reply/forward unless you clean the subject in TB! with a Alexander regex-enhanced template for replies and forwards) - obviously, I'm using Alexander the x-text-classification header. :) I agree. My ISP filters spam and adds a header which I can configure, but I think I shall turn that off as I hate having ham which has [probable spam] in the subject line! Alexander This has other advantages: you can configure TB! to show the header, as Alexander well as the reclassification URL of PopFile in the header pane of the Alexander preview window, thus checking wether the Alexander classification is correct and, in Alexander case PopFile made a wrong classification, Alexander reclassify is only one click Alexander away. *nice* Good idea. Can I expect it to be faster then the current default plugin in V3.0? Alexander Depending on how much mail you get (well, being Alexander on this list alone brings Alexander quite some each day ATM...) it may be slower (but I used BayesIt only a Alexander very short time). After all PopFile is written in Perl, and Bayes analysis Alexander requires a database (mine is 1.4MB right now). I hope it's not slower, filtering seems to be slowing down email delivery right now for me. And my wife's is terrible, 23 emails taking 3 minutes, I have no idea why as she has a very small database. She's using v.3 also but that made no difference, nor did getting rid of the dozen .tmp files, compressing, etc. Alexander And be aware that PopFile can be quite a resource hog - using concurrent Alexander POP connections results in 100% CPU-load peaks Alexander during mail retrieval, and Alexander memory usage is something like 20MB here, always. Alexander Another note: of course, every Bayes filter Alexander requires training - it needs to Alexander know which messages is spam, which is ham, at Alexander least (but keeping only spam Alexander and ham apart is not all PopFile will do for you, of course). That is so Alexander much easier in PopFile with the use of magnets. For example, set up a Alexander magnet that will put every mail from this list Alexander into a bucket genuine (or Alexander whatever you want to call it) - PopFile learns Alexander from every magneted message Alexander and you have a big ham database in no time. I hall do that, good idea. [SNIP] Thanks to everyone who replied. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hello Paul, Monday, September 6, 2004, 2:13:39 PM, you wrote: PJ Can anyone point me to info regarding BayesIT and BayesFilter. PJ What is the difference between them? BayesIT will actually work if you can get it installed. I've never been able to get the other one to do anything except grab program focus for a couple of seconds and then give me a OK dialog that needs to be dismissed saying, One messages processed. PJ Thanks; any tips on how to successfully get BayesIT installed? Mostly it is a YMMV sort of thing at the moment. You install it and it works well or it does not. I have it (BayesIt 0.6.1) working on my system. I had some early problems because I installed it over an older version. The key there seems to be to completely remove all traces of the old one before installing and trying to train the new one. If you have never installed it, you may not have any problems. But as others have said, they did. It is it is a problem for you, it is easy enough to remove it and wait to see if the next release helps you. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bouncing Emails
Hi Pete, PH What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails? That I know of, Pegasus. -- David Win][k sp4 TheBat 3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Photo handles
Hallo Cristina, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 21:13:37 +0100GMT (6-9-2004, 22:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CR Let's see if it's working now. It is -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpbMj212RCiU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow when MailTicker active
Composed on 9/6/04, at 11:16 PM GMT I've not really noticed any problems (so far) with Ver 3 except for a noticeable slow down associated with an active MailTicker. For example. This happens when writing an email, and new mail arrives which activates the MailTicker. If I choose ignore the new mail and continue writing the email, or making address book entries etc, actions such as spell checking or right mouse activated options temporarily freeze TB! for about 10 to 15 seconds. This is something that my previous versions have never done. Is there a setting within the TB! that I can change (apart from de-activating the MailTicker) that will cure this annoying problem? Charlie TB ver:3.0 | Windows XP Home, Build 2600, Plll 650Mhz (320MB Ram) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bouncing Emails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Servus David, PH What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails? DE That I know of, Pegasus. PMMail Mike - -- A diplomat thinks twice before saying nothing.. The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on WindowsXP Pro-SP2 GnuPG fingerprint 5481 4C57 FCFE 7953 777B B8CD 58AC B95E DBBA CE86 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFBPOXJWKy5Xtu6zoYRAmPGAJ9ZSihcvhhW3TtgLQuqJug+EEjWbwCfXHee vADMKWTnu/2pn+Lz9KUHX9A= =PTvb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What are the differences between The Bat! Home and Professional
Hello all, In case you have not seen it http://www.ritlabs.com/kb/idx/0/076/article/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What are the differences between The Bat! Home and Professional
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 00:48:20 +0200, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you have not seen it http://www.ritlabs.com/kb/idx/0/076/article/ Thanks Mau for this info! Just a newbie question, i have upgraded from TB v2 to TB v3 Professional, i will wait for the support on-the-fly encryption ( i need it on my notebook and @work) but for the hardware authentication i have to buy a etoken from alladin or i can use any usb storage key ?? Thankss ^_^ JakeLM Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What are the differences between The Bat! Home and Professional
Hello all, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, JakeLM wrote: In case you have not seen it http://www.ritlabs.com/kb/idx/0/076/article/ Thanks Mau for this info! Just a newbie question, i have upgraded from TB v2 to TB v3 Professional, i will wait for the support on-the-fly encryption ( i need it on my notebook and @work) but for the hardware authentication i have to buy a etoken from alladin or i can use any usb storage key ?? Ritlabs supports Alladin eToken and Rainbow iKey 1000 token, AFAIK Alladin is supported right now in TB Pro, Rainbox token support and on-the-fly encryption will be added soon. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.0.7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: BayesIT and BayesFilter
The key there seems to be to completely remove all traces of the old one before installing and trying to train the new one. So I have to retrain each time I upgrade the BayesIT plugin. That seems rather painful. I think I'll try the Bayes Filter for a while and see how that goes. -- PJ Using TB! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: search for certain strings in mail body?
Dear Ralph, @6-Sep-2004, 22:53 +0200 (06-Sep 21:53 UK time) Ralph [R] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: R is it possible to search for certain strings in the body of a mail and R use it somehow? Yes. The RegEx macros are used for this sort of purpose on a regular (expression) basis. R e.g. onetwosold (austrian equivalent to ebay): i get the mail from R them containing info that article x with price y was sold to customer R z. R what i want to do now, is to auto-generate an answer and send it to R the customer, with the info used in the new mail, e.g. Hello z, you R bought x for y ... Hello %TOFNAME, you bought %REGEXPTEXT=article (.*) with price %- for %REGEXPTEXT=with price (.*) was sold ... Just to implement you exact example ... -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpRsMBP5FIQR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hello Paul, On 7 Sep 2004 at 23:23:19 +0100 GMT [00:23 CEST] you wrote: PJ So I have to retrain each time I upgrade the BayesIT plugin. That PJ seems rather painful. No. Only when upgrading from v0.4 or older. -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 I drank what? ~ Socrates Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIT and BayesFilter
Hi TBUDL, BM On Mon 6-Sep-04 3:52pm -0400, Neal Laugman wrote: PJ Thanks; any tips on how to successfully get BayesIT PJ installed? vbg This is the problem; I have this addressed along with several other testers on TBBETA with no answer yet. BM I've had no problem with installing it. v3 comes with it BM located in, usually, C:\Program Files\The Bat!\BayesIt. BM That version is 0.6.0. There's a newer version available BM at: BMhttp://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit061.rar Thanks for taking the time to list the steps. Unfortunaly I am all too familiar with it;) but things will work themselves out eventually. Only so much time during the day to fight with things, eh? -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.0 Beta/1 and on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Junk Mail Folder Failure
Hello TB User Discussion List, The new Junk mail folder doesn't delete old mail. I've set Keep mail in base for (days): 0 On exit its set to remove old messages and compress the folder. Closing and restarting TB finds mail still in the Junk mail folder - some of it several days old. I've tried setting the days to 1 but still nothing gets removed. This is true in 3, beta 6 7. Bug or feature? -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I love BayesIT!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I used to use spampal and popfile. I found that mail collection was very slow and sometimes hung both the bat and the proxy program. So, back when BayesIT was 5.3 or so, I decided to try it. I did not train it at all. As emails came in, I categorized them as junk or not. After three days or so, it was up to 98% accuracy. It still makes a mistake, but it is 1 per 1000 emails or less. In addition, and this is what is amazing, BayesIT has sped up email collection by at least 300%. The speed difference is noticeable and amazing. No Bayes based filter will ever be 100% perfect. I believe, however, that BayesIT is a very good implementation of the Bayes calculations. Since the 5.10 or so, I have added the discussion and newsletter groups to the whitelist, which has sped up mail collection even more. This list generates a hundred or more email a day, and those are just passed through BayesIT, and not counted in the totals. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: Rant about The Bat! :rant: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 69 Total Clean Emails: 15 BayesIT guessed right 99.971014% of the time My email is 82.142857% spam = morning dayevening == 17:50 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQT0HSG2u7N+Qh+ieEQInmwCfa52NHboFJYrJ0PRnPMh6CBV+UyEAoPE3 NQbo7IAfYY1ZK4GEeO99VaMg =rQUe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk Mail Folder Failure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bill, On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bill mused about Junk Mail Folder Failure (at least in part): BM I've set Keep mail in base for (days): 0 BM On exit its set to remove old messages and compress the BM folder. My experience is that 0 days means disable. I set mine to 1 and it is cleaned up the next day, no problem. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: Rant about The Bat! :rant: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Great Predictions Department: I do not mind saying I think they are taking a gamble. That was Red Sox owner Harry Frazee after selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.01) Total Spam Emails: 50 Total Clean Emails: 13 BayesIT guessed right 99.96% of the time My email is 79.365079% spam = morning dayevening == 18:00 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQT0Ibm2u7N+Qh+ieEQLPkACfdrAc0xyfFLWGEsM8gkzONRiV4VMAoLqr w3MEY53QtK6JMU2YOpOiTtqN =Fyqe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bouncing Emails
Hi Pete Holsberg - On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, at 16:33:51 [GMT -0400] (which was 1:33 PM where I live) you wrote: What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails? Mulberry -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpjuwcFWYyzl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bouncing Emails
Richard H. Stoddard @ 2004-Sep-6 8:10:26 PM Bouncing Emails mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To me, the thing that sets TheBat is its ability to bounce (in addition to forward) emails. I seem to missing something here - how do I bounce e-mails? I get enough scams (not spam) that it would be nice to bounce them. I too seem to be missing this feature. Perhaps he is referring to the Redirect feature. That only program I know of that bounces mail is MailWasher. Take a look at http://www.419eater.com/ if you want a good chuckle... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 In a Nonsmoking Area: If we see smoking we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action. pgpe2ruD7xT8X.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Version3 ?!
Hello Richard, Monday, September 6, 2004, 10:38:40 PM, you wrote: RW Each to their own and TB! gives everyone the chance to customise to RW their taste. I reckon that's a plus but, due to the fractious nature of RW many at this present time, I'll probably be shot down in flames ;-) Glad to read this. I have read so many messages complaining about TB, I was feeling rather lonely. I have a confession: I do like the new toolbars, the smilies, the photos on the headers and -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bouncing Emails
Hello David, Monday, September 6, 2004, 6:48:59 PM, you wrote: DE Hi Pete, PH What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails? DE That I know of, Pegasus. Incredimail, too. But I didn't know TB could do it! -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bouncing Emails
Some time around 09/01/2004 16:33:51, I think I heard Pete Holsberg say: To me, the thing that sets TheBat is its ability to bounce (in addition to forward) emails. I don't see that in Mozilla, Thunderbird, but it is there (sort of) in Outlook. What other email clients have the ability to bounce emails? Thanks. Mutt, Eudora Pro. -dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Version3 ?!
Hello Cristina, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR I have read so many messages complaining about TB, I was feeling CR rather lonely. I have a confession: I do like the new toolbars, the CR smilies, the photos on the headers and I think that, when things are going well, people smile and keep quiet but the moment things start going even slightly wrong then the moans start and, like an avalanche, it gains momentum picking others up on the way down. That's not to say TB! doesn't have its faults as any programme does but some people seem to want it to do what THEY want and not have the features that others might appreciate in their own way too. For instance I hate HTML mail so just never use it but, occasionally, I get news that is important to me and need to read it in HTML and then I'm glad that TB! caters for it. Most things can be switched off if you don't like them. By the way I love Lisbon. Been there twice with Scottish Opera! -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgpQ9ehGUBV1O.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Version3 ?!
Hello Richard, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 3:08:15 AM, you wrote: RW By the way I love Lisbon. Been there twice with Scottish Opera! Thanks! I do love it too, but I've lived here since I was born. :) In another message you refered that you knew Lisbon and I thought you had come for the EURO 2004! -- Best regards, Cristina in Lisbon, Portugalmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The BAT! 3.0.0.7 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk Mail Folder Failure
On Mon 6-Sep-04 8:01pm -0400, Michael L. Wilson wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Bill mused about Junk Mail Folder Failure (at least in part): BM I've set Keep mail in base for (days): 0 BM On exit its set to remove old messages and compress the BM folder. My experience is that 0 days means disable. I set mine to 1 and it is cleaned up the next day, no problem. Nah, disable is accomplished by not checking the box. Zero days means delete on exit. I have seen zero mean infinity, but only when there was no check box. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Version3 ?!
Hello Cristina, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CR In another message you refered that you knew Lisbon and I thought you CR had come for the EURO 2004! Ah, so that message did get through! It didn't show here, don't know why, so that's why I doubled up with the comment :-) What's Euro 2004? Football? If so not interested I'm afraid :-( -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 3.0.0.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 pgptOt2xP9AZM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons in TB! v3 are too large
Hi Bob - On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, at 22:40:21 [GMT -0400] (which was 7:40 PM where I live) you wrote: Is there any way to change the size of the icons (glyphs) in TB! v3? Even when I use a glyphs.bmp file, the icons are spread too far apart and they take up too much screen space. Has anybody figured out how to return their size to normal? You are absolutely right. It looks terrible, IMO. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpce8KLYyK2T.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
