Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists
Hello Allister! On Monday, March 07, 2005, 1:45 AM, you wrote: Allister Hello TBUDLers, Allister until I log off. Then it disappears. Allister jump ship. I am currently using the beta version and didn't encounter your problem. I have added four accounts and they are all still there. I have the email going to my main account by filters. I am very pleased with this version. Sorry, not using your version, so I can't confirm your problem. Don't abandon ship... It isn't sinking... -- IMHO Have A Happy, Ron Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :usflag: :Ron_Cameron: :Flag-US-IA: Using :tbflaga: The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :beta: on Windows XP 5.1 Build on a Pentium III 700 MHz with 768 MB Percentage of spam email in the last 24 hours = 6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
ON Wednesday, March 2, 2005, 2:04:51 AM, you wrote: JR Can someone explain the splitting message option, default is 100kb. Hi Jan, It is a bit of a relic. It used to be done because there was a maximum size to an e-mail you could send. By setting the split option your msg would be split is smaller chuncks. I believe it is still used on Usenet, but since TB! is no Usenet reader just forget about it. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Things That Sound Dirty At Golf But Aren't: Nuts...my shaft is bent Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking about v3
Hello Melissa, On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 23:35:44 -0800 GMT (07/03/2005, 14:35 +0700 GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: MR Is the current release version (non-beta) stable and fully functional? Yes. I am using it in the office without any problems. MR Are there any known issues that I should be aware of? I am using v3.0.2.10 at home because of some minor fix I cannot even remember. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: It is always possible to park directly outside any building you are visiting. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
Hello Gerard everyone else, on 07-Mrz-2005 at 15:33 you (Gerard) wrote: It is a bit of a relic. It used to be done because there was a maximum size to an e-mail you could send. By setting the split option your msg would be split is smaller chuncks. I believe it is still used on Usenet, but since TB! is no Usenet reader just forget about it. Some freemail providers still have a limit for messages sent thru their servers. I think GMX has a limit of 5MB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Age doesn't always bring wisdom, sometimes age comes alone. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking about v3
Melissa Reese said the following on 03/07/2005 01:35: Is the current release version (non-beta) stable and fully functional? Are there any known issues that I should be aware of? As long as you don't need IMAP, you'll probably be OK. -- Dave Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
Hello Alexander, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:39:35 +0100 GMT (07/03/2005, 23:39 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Some freemail providers still have a limit for messages sent thru their ASK servers. I think GMX has a limit of 5MB. 5MB for a *mail*? I think that should be enough... -- Cheers, Thomas. Wie man sich fettet, so wiegt man. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking about v3
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Sun, 6 Mar 2005, @ @ at 23:35:44 -0800, when Melissa Reese wrote: In the past, I was always eager to jump to the latest versions of software as soon as they were released. Lately, I've become a bit more conservative; especially when a version I'm currently using is stable and working well for me. Now, finally, I'm thinking about TB! v3. Is the current release version (non-beta) stable and fully functional? Are there any known issues that I should be aware of? It depends on your needs, and/or of how much of TB you explore, I would dare to say, since there are some who are explicitly very pleased with v3, but there are other ones who rather would love to wait a bit, or a bit more, until situation is more clear. For myself, which means that the World (and perhaps wider) is not obliged to abide to this, it will be when I remove the word unleashing from my signature. (-; Yet, the number 3.0.1.33 somehow tells me that much of water and lava will have to stream away until it gets to some 3.1.00, or so. 187 days is about 6 months, and I recon I'd wait patiently yet those 3 ones, for not to push the Nature too much, or I could get something I wouldn't want to. I am not sure that anyone could generalize and deliver a full list of known issues, but I suppose that individual reports could help, in a measure, and you already got few of them. That's my contribution: if you use some more complicated or unusual filtering rules -- be careful. I myself am waiting to see what will happen before I decide to buy a copy of a v3 using *my* name. The main reason of mine was encryption on the fly, and I was already prepared to buy a Secure Bat but they entombed this form of the popular mammal, just in the moment when I pulled my wallet. Pity, since I do not need any additional features, as hardware tokens etcetera. Just a possibility to keep my mail in an encrypted form, while still using all the resources of a standard TB. Those were my experiences many weeks, and moons, ago, and I admit that I lost my patience after trying several first copies of v3. Those days I again had in mind to try a newer one...but it seems that my patience is not enough chubby yet. I hope that this thread you spun now will get more constructive answers, so that I myself could tap some benefits of them too. So far, no news with I am quite pleased with, It works smoothly and similar. (: Such ones were present even 6 months ago. (Will be that downloading a new copy and playing with it, *safely*, like in save hex (:, is a most appropriate way to get the precise answers.) Take care and wear a smile, because it's more beautiful, and possibly less painful, this way. (: -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ :eyes: [Earth LOG: 187 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgpmXZzEOBS3B.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 07-Mrz-2005 at 18:00 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: ASK Some freemail providers still have a limit for messages sent thru their ASK servers. I think GMX has a limit of 5MB. 5MB for a *mail*? I think that should be enough... I believe there's enough blockheads out there that try to send a bunch of .BMP files in one message... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The divine art of miracles is not an art of suspending the pattern to which events occur, but of feeding new events into that pattern. -- C. S. Lewis, author of the Chronicles of Narnia Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hi On Sunday 6 March 2005 at 2:22:27 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of which actually contain the search term. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists
Hi On Monday 7 March 2005 at 7:45:44 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Allister Jenks wrote: I add the account to the group What does it mean to add an account to a group? -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking about v3
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, @ @ at 19:09:46 +0100, when Mica Mijatovic wrote: The main reason of mine was encryption on the fly, and I was already prepared to buy a Secure Bat Mica's celebrating typo festival these days: should stand Secure Bat Lite instead. (Will be that downloading a new copy and playing with it, *safely*, like in save hex (:, is a most appropriate way to get the precise answers.) And instead save should stand safe, obviously. Although the both are appropriate I would say. (-: -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 187 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgpps6bxgVBpB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, @ @ at 20:59:04 +, when MFPA wrote: even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of which actually contain the search term. On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to minimize one, with a question mark on it. Push it (by mammalizing it). There is also a kbd shortcut but I can't recall, since it doesn't work under my 98SE, while in XP does. Perhaps Alt+F12. -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ o [Earth LOG: 187 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgpyrBiXTWfhV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, @ @ at 21:33:43 +0100, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK Some freemail providers still have a limit for messages sent thru ASK their servers. I think GMX has a limit of 5MB. 5MB for a *mail*? I think that should be enough... I believe there's enough blockheads out there that try to send a bunch of .BMP files in one message... :-) Oh yes, they are all alive and very well. Even if sending each BMP in separate messages. Then the DOC files...g... -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ o [Earth LOG: 187 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgpXGsAiD4PEA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Mica, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to MM minimize one, Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. MM with a question mark on it. To the right are the usual Minimise restore and Close but never had the tiny button. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7483 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
MFPA @ 2005-Mar-7 3:59:04 PM View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] even the Menu Navigator doesn't help me. What/where is the menu navigator? I can't find the term in the help file and the search tool on TBUDP brings up several pages none of which actually contain the search term. If it is not there, go to Options/Preferences and check Display MenuNavigator... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. In an office: AFTER TEA BREAK STAFF SHOULD EMPTY THE TEAPOT AND STAND UPSIDE DOWN ON THE DRAINING BOARD pgpnVr97pArqU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Richard Wakeford @ 2005-Mar-7 5:25:49 PM View Modes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to minimize one, Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. This aphorism would be seven words long if it were six words shorter. pgpiBitM10TYK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Good grief! The bug STILL exists
On Mon 7 March 2005, 18:45:44 +1000, Allister Jenks wrote: For the first time in ages, I added a new email account to TB! (I am changing ISPs). Blow me down if that old group bug isn't still there in version 3.0.1.33. I add the account to the group and all works fine - until I log off. Then it disappears. I'm not sure what you mean by add the account to the group. If I did I would try to reproduce your problem. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Monday 7 March 2005 at 9:57:21 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mica Mijatovic wrote: On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to minimize one, with a question mark on it. Thanks. I had always thought that to be a what's this context-sensitive help button, and therefore ignored it. - -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQCVAwUBQiziG6ipC46tDG5pAQHBVgP+KyS6gZowdc+ujJ5+JPp6TmbFyJkIX1XS MoKk2ZgvMrCbP+AMBg0XxAVxiQiLWc0MMRP+iGeIyCp4xs/O+92dPVBkaJ89hVZr yi1I9laOjfBLwsgGJsGrm9EKJTo1LJwFSX2bjibNrVSXvmxm7rrTviGZZnwkfG2e S5eav4au2lk= =uneo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 7 Mar 2005, @ @ at 23:25:49 +0100, when Richard Wakeford wrote: Hello Mica, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM On the left of the TB's title bar you have a tiny button near to MM minimize one, Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. Argh...I'm really silly these days with these typos -- on the *right*! I am sending tiny attachment with screen shot of this area: it will reach TBOT. MM with a question mark on it. -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ :flagmica: [Earth LOG: 188 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... pgprZNgRwf5Dr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Monday 7 March 2005 at 9:50:51 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mica Mijatovic wrote: Then the DOC files...g... I can never understand why people insist on attaching .doc files to emails instead of using .rtf. Indeed, usually the text could just be pasted into the email body.;-) - -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQCVAwUBQizjrKipC46tDG5pAQET7wP/Qh8k6j3szbrVFCIE6wldGaS4xve+XKJC rxfwcDF7HbVRTIq9Ny0TMFuxMDOOFg8ZVYdEonq1tNu07IxOdW/5QlaqbowTHZGA E3wj2y4fSI66DoT08lWkJxsfFo8JHOWHQzOyGY2RxQbwUK9Fhs4k8BE8XoRvlkTW hdF6cssbTkg= =jPb4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
At 23:29 [GMT+] on Monday March 7 (actual time - 7:29am on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Then the DOC files...g... MFPA I can never understand why people insist on attaching .doc files MFPA to emails instead of using .rtf. Because work DEMANDS that stuff be filed as Word doc attachments. MFPA Indeed, usually the text could just be pasted into the email MFPA body. Not at all. It's much easier to edit when sent as a .doc attachment. PS - your sig delimiter isn't working. -- cheers, mic A hangover is something to occupy a head that wasn't used the night before. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Peter, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO See Options | Preferences | General | Display MenuNavigator ... Never stop learning with this programme. Thanks. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7483 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Tuesday 8 March 2005 at 1:05:57 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mic Cullen wrote: MFPA I can never understand why people insist on attaching .doc files MFPA to emails instead of using .rtf. Because work DEMANDS that stuff be filed as Word doc attachments. Why? What can .doc do that .rtf can't (apart from harbour viruses, etc?) MFPA Indeed, usually the text could just be pasted into the email MFPA body. Not at all. It's much easier to edit when sent as a .doc attachment. And no different when sent as a .rtf. When the text is just a message, not requiring further editing etc, there is no justification for attaching instead of pasting in. Unless it is something for which the formatting is important, like a poster, perhaps. PS - your sig delimiter isn't working. Thanks for the tip-off. Oddly, it works here if I open a reply to my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] received via the list. The one before best regards has an extra dashspace added to the front by PGP, so will only work after you have verified the message using TB!'s built-in PGP function. Otherwise, the extra cut mark placed after -END PGP SIGNATURE- comes into play. - -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQCVAwUBQi0GIqipC46tDG5pAQH/9wQAgCY5y+84cHre0eUd6fJ+axZV6oGcP+Aj 325J0kizcSwL5aOVGFs1w965hZ6kKjBfR79VINQ/6SP3DQ9XkcwTh/juj58EF/9E Srvbu/wXOSHDwaUlcYbGJFJWoTI75puCfsE0Yy+TTIut07ga/61t8HTpN1dhPSHI ry28p6/Liw0= =BJ7Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View Modes
Hello Chris, On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not here. all I have to the left is The Bat icon and The Bat! words. C Please see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Would have done if it had been posted at the time! ;-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.9.4 Return SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 8.00 build 7483 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: splitting msgs
At 01:55 [GMT+] on Tuesday March 8 (actual time - 9:55am on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Because work DEMANDS that stuff be filed as Word doc attachments. MFPA Why? What can .doc do that .rtf can't (apart from harbour viruses, MFPA etc?) 'Why' isn't a relevant question. Work demands it, and that's the end of the story, I'm afraid. -- cheers, mic My parents only had one argument in forty-five years. It lasted forty-three years. Cathy Ladman Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
