Re: Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Perry, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 7:54:13 PM, you wrote: > Now, assuming all those things, what do I do next? Can I safely install > the Pro edition over the Home edition, without uninstalling the Home > edition first? I *do* want to install OTFE when I install the Pro > edition. It has been a while since purchasing TB Pro, but you might need your eToken to open TB Pro. Have you received your as yet? If so, have you installed the drivers for your eToken? - -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Courtenay, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Win XP Pro ___ PGPKey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0xDAEB2FB93BCA7DD2 PGPKey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0xC9134763 Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.4 (Build 4042) iQGYAwUBQ6t9H1c9HDzJE0djAQouSgwXVR/trrn1xpO3ix7xas59HV9ZqGqIYjYi D/xIuXIOGCM/Kd8EJ36gamM/g0klIUMKDe3gGBRTW6cfbxkiD/je8i/K4LbKmNIU Twldb6HlHNlUa8vnJZSdh3RbQ3MJkDi/1UIYLkZ+U1W0b2XdCfJA+gv29LFgSiGo eI/N8EdW1r3ELuECv9j6J26tDsc+QtA7PLaQ8XlJ9gB8t5ED8rQmNI8BuoQ0lP+E jjGoChfVhqymOJcCFmu9Gp31NOEYo8atwI/v69qldfdhcbWpg7tp35T4Lvt0ZCz9 I0t9uLHHSytKwxuZp0ETlWjTM1nOiwqCrdSHBKlLLfqgNenETnQ15V5OOdWBQg// /4FT06cBYEVd6rjTg+CM7lWRRbQq6zWj+/OqYKa1vsjDgWUWGUL89BznzKJUXvFC PFDcEs3gLrN+vFDobQ/EuEoOqpzrN6aTBIBB6D4vbO2lgfFSU6l318TpZ4lA1E7q EK/+7TdjlL0itBUXUm7fgrK0G0no8tXZdx9Z =7rv5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
On 22/12/2005 at 10:22:37 PM [GMT -0500], Dwight A Corrin wrote: >> Not a problem here and I'm on fastmail too! > Here either. I don't synchronize or disconnect. I don't have any of my folders set to synchronise either. TB! just does an interval folder refresh. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Courage atrophies from lack of use. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen
On Thursday, December 22, 2005, 11:50:09 AM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > The images are included in the executable program. They are not > stand-alone files. Whatever splash screen images you have in your > folder, TB doesn't use them. That isn't necessarily so. I have a 'minimal.png' and batlogo.xml, works similar to custom glyphs -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
On Thursday, December 22, 2005, 7:14:05 PM, steverio wrote: > Not a problem here and I'm on fastmail too! Here either. I don't synchronize or disconnect. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Installing version 3.64 *PRO* edition
Hello Everyone, As you can see from the footer to this message, I am composing this message using v3.62.14. I have always used the HOME edition. Recently I took advantage of RitLabs' generous upgrade offer and downloaded the PRO edition of v3.62.14, but I haven't installed it as yet because of uncertainty and apprehension about the OTFE process. I *have* received my registration key from RitLabs, and I have exported it from The Bat! in Unix format and printed out the message too. Normally when I upgrade, I simply install over the version that is currently installed, but in those instances I have been merely upgrading from one version of the home edition to another. Since I am a bit concerned about converting to OTFE, I want to be particularly precise in doing it as it should be done. Therefore, would one of you kind and experienced souls please specify the steps needed to upgrade my setup, noting if you will any particular precautions I should take? I have already exported the RitLabs branch of the Registry and have that saved to my desktop. Before converting to the Pro installation, I *will do* a complete backup of the current Home version installation. Now, assuming all those things, what do I do next? Can I safely install the Pro edition over the Home edition, without uninstalling the Home edition first? I *do* want to install OTFE when I install the Pro edition. Thanks in advance for your guidance. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day steverio, Friday, December 23, 2005, 11:14:05 AM, you wrote: > Not a problem here and I'm on fastmail too! Thanks Steverio (and Curtis) for taking the time to experiment for me. I appreciate it. Looks like I have one of those mysterious unexplained bugs that is unique to my computer. At least I have discovered how to work around it. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Controlling line length in messages
Hello Leonard, On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:33:03 -0500 GMT (23/12/2005, 03:33 +0700 GMT), Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: LSB> Now this phenomenon has not arisen during the course of writing the LSB> current note and l works as it previously had. However, I do LSB> have a formatting tool bar with left justify, center, right justify LSB> and justify icons. LSB> How can I have TheBat work the way it previously did? I am not sure I follow. MicroEd (the plaintext editor) has not been changed and works exactly as it was before. I'm also a heavy user of alt-L. These toolbar icons have been added, but I took them out (right-click, and you'get a menu). -- Cheers, Thomas. Home is where you can say anything you like 'cause nobody listens to you anyway. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day Curtis, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:13:43 PM, you wrote: > Using a FastMail account here and don't experience any access > violations. :/ I wish I was so lucky. Everything runs okay until the command "TImapDisconnectRequest" is processed. It crashes The Bat! every time. It worked fine on the previous version and I haven't changed any settings. If I get the chance tomorrow I may try setting up a new IMAP account to see if the same thing occurs. Meanwhile I have to use PocoMail to access FastMail, and IMAP definitely isn't it's strong point either :GRIN: . If no one has any other suggestions it looks like I may need to uninstall and revert to v.3.62.14 -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
On 22/12/2005 at 7:41:20 PM [GMT -0500], Bob Morris wrote: > I wonder if anyone else would be good enough to try setting their IMAP > to disconnect after synchronisation to determine if it is a > reproducible bug, or just an isolated strangeness on my machine. I just now did, but the autodisconnect doesn't seem to be triggered here. TB! remains connected and there is no crashing either. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle buttons Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
Hello Bob... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:41:20 +1000, you wrote: >I have determined exactly where the error occurs and can reproduce it >on demand. Under Account Properties - Mail Management - IMAP Fine >Tune: if "Automatically Disconnect after synchronisation" is checked >then The Bat! crashes every time. (As I am on dial-up I don't want >Fastmail to be continually connected so I need it to disconnect after >checking my mail.) > >I have discovered a work-round that solves the problem for me: Mail >Management - "When inactive, disconnect after 5 Seconds" has almost >exactly the same effect as automatically disconnect but without the >crash :GRIN: > >I wonder if anyone else would be good enough to try setting their IMAP >to disconnect after synchronisation to determine if it is a >reproducible bug, or just an isolated strangeness on my machine. Not a problem here and I'm on fastmail too! -- steverio TB!v3.64.01 Christmas Edition TBV!v3.64 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 OTFE Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
G'day Curtis, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 9:13:43 PM, you wrote: > On 21/12/2005 at 8:30:33 PM [GMT -0500], Bob Morris wrote: >> I have just installed the latest Christmas Edition. The updated help >> file is a big improvement. Unfortunately however whenever I try to >> access my IMAP account at Fastmail The Bat! appears to complete all >> the downloading and then crashes with an Access violation error. > Using a FastMail account here and don't experience any access > violations. :/ Thanks for the input Curtis. I have determined exactly where the error occurs and can reproduce it on demand. Under Account Properties - Mail Management - IMAP Fine Tune: if "Automatically Disconnect after synchronisation" is checked then The Bat! crashes every time. (As I am on dial-up I don't want Fastmail to be continually connected so I need it to disconnect after checking my mail.) I have discovered a work-round that solves the problem for me: Mail Management - "When inactive, disconnect after 5 Seconds" has almost exactly the same effect as automatically disconnect but without the crash :GRIN: I wonder if anyone else would be good enough to try setting their IMAP to disconnect after synchronisation to determine if it is a reproducible bug, or just an isolated strangeness on my machine. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
David Elliott @ 12/22/2005 1:56:59 PM "LDAP connection" > They administrators are a PITA and are so M$ orientated they have no idea > what LDAP is, let alone what the connection is needed to it. They're probably just to lazy to actually learn the technology operating their servers fully. Active Directory (which they are probably using) is, in fact, a LDAP server, with a few additions (but it is still more or less compatible). > However I have done a bit of digging and I think that I have the info I > need, much to the annoyance of system administrators who said it was not > possible. Well, if you need more information from them, just change your vocabulary. Ask them about "Organization Units". -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. pgpFtSG7KDnjw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Controlling line length in messages
Leonard S. Berkowitz @ 12/22/2005 2:33:03 PM "Controlling line length in messages" > How can I have TheBat work the way it previously did? Make sure that you are not using the HTML editor. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. A .44 magnum beats four aces. pgphE6ui8OKtD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Controlling line length in messages
On Thursday, December 22, 2005, at 4:09:16 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK> Make sure that you're using ASK> plaintext replies (in the editor preferences) ASK> for all mails, maybe thats the problem. Thanks for the attempt, but plain text was already in effect. When I looked, the wrap setting was 70 characters. I changed it to 40, but this affects replies to messages that were not formatted -- as you can see in this note. I will set it back to 70. -- Leonard Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 at 19:56:59 +, David wrote: > They administrators are a PITA and are so M$ orientated they have no idea > what LDAP is, let alone what the connection is needed to it. > > However I have done a bit of digging and I think that I have the info I > need, much to the annoyance of system administrators who said it was not > possible. > > As usual as soon as I set my mind to do something I find that I know more > about a subject than the experts. What did you find out? How did you do it? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
Hello David Elliott & everyone else, on 22-Dez-2005 at 20:56 you (David Elliott) wrote: > They administrators are a PITA and are so M$ orientated they have no idea > what LDAP is, let alone what the connection is needed to it. They should know. MS Active Directory is LDAP based and offers similar functionality. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Diese Leute sind Spinner. Sie machen nichts wirklich Neues und sie haben keine Ahnung von dem, was sie tun. Ihre Ansprüche sind ziemlich niedrig, und es ist nicht einmal sicher, ob sie selbst sie eingelöst haben. (John Wharton über Microsoft's CP/M Klon "MS-DOS", 1981) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Controlling line length in messages
Hello Leonard S. Berkowitz & everyone else, on 22-Dez-2005 at 21:33 you (Leonard S. Berkowitz) wrote: > How can I have TheBat work the way it previously did? Make sure that you're using plaintext replies (in the editor preferences) for all mails, maybe thats the problem. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Controlling line length in messages
One "issue" I have noticed in the 3.nn versions of TheBat is that the length of text lines has increased from about 60 characters to the width of the screen, expecially in replying to a message that had some formatting in it. It used to be that l would wrap lines that had become overly long because of the insertion of some text after the line had wrapped to the next line. Not only that, but there is a toolbar with all sorts of formatting options that I normally do not use. Now this phenomenon has not arisen during the course of writing the current note and l works as it previously had. However, I do have a formatting tool bar with left justify, center, right justify and justify icons. How can I have TheBat work the way it previously did? Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen
Hello Alexander, > Whatever splash screen images you have in your folder, TB doesn't > use them. you can use your own background pictures. Here is a guidance from Robo: .-[ mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]- | | DE> They seam to appear randomly. | Ok, people, I can say more - if you put images in the folder, where | TheBat! starts from, named accordingly - bk*.jpg (must be jpegs, | though), the size can be any, but small pictures are better, since they | took less time to load. | 474x384 is the exact size used for splash. | In the case, when custom images are supplied, no time-bound selection | will occur, the random picture will be taken. (If there is only one - it | will be shown always) | | PS. Do not ask, if the phases of the moon will be taken into account, though. :-) | | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.the-bat.beta/13250 '--- You can use also your own Splash screen with your own Batlogo.xml. Take a look at Minimal Design Splash (104 KB): http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/minimal_batskin_splash.zip -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.zetema.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.zetema.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LDAP connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chris, Thursday, December 22, 2005, 1:49:00 AM, you wrote: >> I connected the bat to an Ldap directory, but now I can not remember >> exactly what I did. >> Can any one give me any clues as to how to do it. Things like search >> base and the format of the user name and passwoed. > It seems like you have already found the "This address book is > associated with a LDAP server" check box. The username and password > are whatever credentials you need to log in to the server. On my > server, none are needed. >> I can remember something like cn= was in there somewhere. > That really depends on how your LDAP server is structured. I would > contact your LDAP administrator and ask him or her what the proper > search base is. They administrators are a PITA and are so M$ orientated they have no idea what LDAP is, let alone what the connection is needed to it. However I have done a bit of digging and I think that I have the info I need, much to the annoyance of system administrators who said it was not possible. As usual as soon as I set my mind to do something I find that I know more about a subject than the experts. - -- Thanks, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer| _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | Oxymoron: A honest politician. | The Bat! 3.62.14 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Signed, Sealed, Delivered. :) iQA/AwUBQ6sFEPmK8eZlD0U0EQJhhQCg/ma3h4PuUuKw9bLEJ919CO/CuysAoNu0 Avkab3AOkC61gm2Wteh3u36U =SNIq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Christmas Theme
Io, I can't remember where to find a Web Site with themes and skins for the bat 3.64 (or compatible). I would like to find a great Christmas Theme. I hoped there was a such theme in this Christmas Edition of 21 december (3.64) but none (Except the STart SPlash). Can you help me ? Thanks. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.64.01 Christmas Edition BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Splash Screen
Hello Dean & everyone else, on 22-Dez-2005 at 14:29 you (Dean) wrote: > I looked through the folder and yes the images are there The images are included in the executable program. They are not stand-alone files. Whatever splash screen images you have in your folder, TB doesn't use them. > but not being called up for some reason. Anyone know how to tweak > whatever so the sky image background behind the bat once again show's on > my machine? It shows up every time you start TB unless you pass the /NOLOGO parameter to TB while starting. Maybe you have altered the shortcut to your TB executable to include the /NOLOGO switch? Copied to TBUDL since this is not related to any beta version. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this. -- Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M "Post-It" Notepads. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
managing spam attachments
Hello, I have set up The Bat! to move attachments into a separate directory, unfortunately this means that Spam attachments are also moved. Of which I have discovered, there are rather a lot. Is there any clever way of dealing with this. I am using the Achim spam engine if that is important. -- Graham Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing mailboxes
Hallo Kitty, On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:31:01 -0600GMT (22-12-2005, 6:31 +0100, where I live), you wrote: K> I just opened up TB and the only folders I now show in that account K> are Inbox, Outbox, sent mail and Trash. I know that the folders are K> all really still there, but how do I get them show up? Press Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L while the focus is on the account tree pane. -- Groetjes, Roelof He says a thousand pleasant things, but never "Adieu." The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMSzj4o1Lns.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with v.3.64.01 crashing
On 21/12/2005 at 8:30:33 PM [GMT -0500], Bob Morris wrote: > I have just installed the latest Christmas Edition. The updated help > file is a big improvement. Unfortunately however whenever I try to > access my IMAP account at Fastmail The Bat! appears to complete all > the downloading and then crashes with an Access violation error. Using a FastMail account here and don't experience any access violations. :/ -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...A pessimist is never disappointed. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and MS Exchange
Jurgen Haug writes: > Fun is, when I installed that over a year ago, I needed to have > Outlook running to connect with TB! What error message did you get when you attempted to run it without Outlook? -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.5.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
