Re: attachements can only be dragged
Henk M. de Bruijn wrote : Henk M. de Bruijn formuleerde op donderdag : If you do a complete re-install don't forget about the registry. What do you mean? Can you be more specific? The Bat! makes entries in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER SOFTWARE RIT So I should delete that? the folder Rit? -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Mary, Friday, September 8, 2006, 1:37:50 AM, you wrote: MB This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the MB issue went from Resolved to Closed. Not by me... I thought it had something to do with Objectdock Plus Copernic Desktop Search. I have spent many an hour to transfer all shortcuts from Objectdock Plus to Jetstart only to find out that, after all, the problem still occured... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.85.02 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Editing pop up addresses
Hi, I need to edit pop up addresses in Bat! which come up when I compose a message and start to type the address into the To: field. Remember (but now forgotten) something about this on the list when I previously subscribed. Thanks for advice if available! (And apologies for the footer text - automatically placed by mail server at work and cannot be deleted.) -- Regards, John Phillips Bat 3.85.02 XP Pro SP2 *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing pop up addresses
Hallo John, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:12:21 +1000GMT (8-9-2006, 9:12 , where I live), you wrote: JP I need to edit pop up addresses in Bat! which come up when I compose a JP message and start to type the address into the To: field. You can pick the addresses you'd like to pop-up with: Options - Preferences - Message Headers - To: (you've got to select the header whose behaviour you want to alter) - Edit - 'Editing' tab - While you type actions -- Groetjes, Roelof The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpTAcqwpWBln.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing pop up addresses
Roelof, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, at 10:39:10 [GMT +0200] (18:39:10 08/09/2006 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: You can pick the addresses you'd like to pop-up with: Options - Preferences - Message Headers - To: (you've got to select the header whose behaviour you want to alter) - Edit - 'Editing' tab - While you type actions Thanks, but how can I delete old' (changed) addresses that pop up? Is there a file somewhere of these? -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Mark! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 2:05 AM, you wrote: MB This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the MB issue went from Resolved to Closed. Not by me... No, by Charlene, before your post to TBBETA appeared. I thought it had something to do with Objectdock Plus Copernic Desktop Search. I remember. I have spent many an hour to transfer all shortcuts from Objectdock Plus to Jetstart only to find out that, after all, the problem still occured... Bad scene. If I don't hear back from Marek in a few hours about re-opening Charlene's closed thread, I shall put a new BT report up. Will post the link here. Probably be best to do that (make a new report) anyway. Start fresh delineating the bugs in v 3.85.xx. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello all, Friday, September 8, 2006, Mary Bull wrote: Hello Marek! I have just now experienced a series of cascading Alert boxes, while using the Insert Smile dialogue window. Boxes said, approximately, Cannot allow canvas redrawing. They were very rapid, filling the screen, and I had to close The Bat! with the Windows Task Manager. This was one of the bug behaviors reported in a BT issue report at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5956 This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the issue went from Resolved to Closed. Do you want to re-open this issue report, so that I can put a note that the buggy behavior has appeared again in v. 3.85.2? Or shall I write a new issue report? write a new one, because it is different than previous report. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.85.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 1.6.5 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message loaded
Hallo Tom, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:48:18 +1000GMT (8-9-2006, 5:48 , where I live), you wrote: TL I am a bit frantic as I just noticed that many of my existing emails TL seem to have gone. Well, as long as you can see them in your preview pane, they're still there. TL I upgraded yesterday to the latest version and everything seemed fine. TL I first noticed that when using the search function and then trying to TL double click on one of the results to open the email, it does not TL work. TL Now I get the same result when doubleclicking in the main panel : No TL message loaded. I can't reproduce that behaviour over here. You wouldn't per chance have changed the double click speed of your mouse, so that you can't double click fast enough, would you? What happens when press enter when you've selected a message? Is it happening with all messages or just with some messages in one folder or from one (group of) sender(s)? BTW You say 'no message loaded', is that the message you get or is that what happens? -- Groetjes, Roelof The characters in this message are recyclable http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMk8jyyd5kK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing pop up addresses
Hallo John, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:39:16 +1000GMT (8-9-2006, 10:39 , where I live), you wrote: JP Thanks, but how can I delete old' (changed) addresses that pop up? JP Is there a file somewhere of these? Depends on the addresses you want to delete. When they're popping up from the history, you can move to it with the cursor keys and press Delete, when they're popping up from the address book then you've got to delete/correct them in the AB. In the account directory there is an account.his file that's remembering the 40 most recent recipients, subjects, etc for the account. You can delete that (preferably when TB is closed). But you can also configure TB to only show addresses from your A and you should keep your AB current, that's why I pointed you to that option. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The number of calls to tech support before you can get it to run http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpGzkRo3N832.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Marek! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 3:47 AM, you wrote: shall I write a new issue report? write a new one, because it is different than previous report. Will do. Thanks a lot for the reply, Marek. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Mark! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 2:05 AM, you wrote: MB This was confirmed fixed in beta 3.81.17, by the reporter, and the MB issue went from Resolved to Closed. Not by me... I thought it had something to do with Objectdock Plus Copernic Desktop Search. I have spent many an hour to transfer all shortcuts from Objectdock Plus to Jetstart only to find out that, after all, the problem still occured... I have put a BT issue report. Please add your note to it. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6020 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Insert Smile caused Canvas Redrawing alert box, cascading
Hello Marek! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 3:47 AM, you wrote: ... shall I write a new issue report? write a new one, because it is different than previous report. Done. Thanks a mil, again, for the reply. And see: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6020 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:56:20 +0200GMT (8-9-2006, 8:56 +0200, where I live), A.Translator wrote: Henk M. de Bruijn wrote : Henk M. de Bruijn formuleerde op donderdag : If you do a complete re-install don't forget about the registry. What do you mean? Can you be more specific? The Bat! makes entries in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER SOFTWARE RIT So I should delete that? the folder Rit? I do that when I do/make a new/clean install. This way you don't use old settings.. -- Henk __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.85.02 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpE72xbOHTFy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No message loaded
Friday, September 8, 2006, 6:49:29 PM, you wrote: TL I upgraded yesterday to the latest version and everything seemed fine. TL I first noticed that when using the search function and then trying to TL double click on one of the results to open the email, it does not TL work. TL Now I get the same result when doubleclicking in the main panel : No TL message loaded. I can't reproduce that behaviour over here. You wouldn't per chance have changed the double click speed of your mouse, so that you can't double click fast enough, would you? What happens when press enter when you've selected a message? Double clicking, pressing enter or right click / open all lead to the same outcome: a grey screen with the message no message loaded and the header view folder and folder name. Is it happening with all messages or just with some messages in one folder or from one (group of) sender(s)? It seems to affect all emails older than today, ie prior to my upgrade. All new messages received after the upgrade do not show this behaviour. BTW You say 'no message loaded', is that the message you get or is that what happens? Yes, unfortunately this is the case but as you said, the messages must still be there as I can see them in the preview pane and when trying to forward. -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
Het is zò dat Henk M. de Bruijn formuleerde : So I should delete that? the folder Rit? I do that when I do/make a new/clean install. This way you don't use old settings.. Ok, when I reinstall, I'll try and remember ;-) -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:28:24 +0200GMT (8-9-2006, 12:28 +0200, where I live), A.Translator wrote: Het is zò dat Henk M. de Bruijn formuleerde : So I should delete that? the folder Rit? I do that when I do/make a new/clean install. This way you don't use old settings.. Ok, when I reinstall, I'll try and remember ;-) Don't forget to backup ;-) -- Henk __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.85.02 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgp4mMqGgeTtk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message loaded
Hallo Tom, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:23:04 +1000GMT (8-9-2006, 12:23 , where I live), you wrote: TL Yes, unfortunately this is the case but as you said, the messages must TL still be there as I can see them in the preview pane and when trying TL to forward. I noticed that you've moved back to 3.65.03, Are you still encountering the same problem? Was that the version you were using before? What happens when you select all messages in a folder, export them to unix mailbox, import them again to another (new) folder and try to open them then? What happens when you copy all messages to another (new) folder and double click the copies afterwards? Did you try folder maintenance? (Create a copy of your message base first) -- Groetjes, Roelof (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with a large hammer http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpipoI8SKD2w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
.MSG files
I seem to be collecting more and more .MSG files in my default attachments folder. I've searched TB's help system and none of the hits for MSG seem to have anything to do with these files. They seem to contain email message bodies, and therefore that are, by definition, *NOT ATTACHMENTS* ! ! ! So I must ask: 1. Why are they collecting in my attachments folder? 2. How do I stop TB from doing this silly thing? 3. If I delete these .MSG files, will I lose access to the body of the message from inside TB, or does it save another copy somewhere else (as it should be doing)? (The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of the message bodies, but attachments as well, so one would assume the neither the body NOR the attachment is lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) Please help, a directory with many thousands of files in it is nearly unusable in Windows XP (too [EMAIL PROTECTED]$ SLOW!). Thanks! ? -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No message loaded
Hallo Roelof, Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:01:47 PM, you wrote: I noticed that you've moved back to 3.65.03, Are you still encountering the same problem? Was that the version you were using before? You are very observant, certainly more observant than I am. My signature was wrong, I had only amended the sig in new messages but not updated the reply function. I am still using 3.85.02. What happens when you select all messages in a folder, export them to unix mailbox, import them again to another (new) folder and try to open them then? Never done that before. Tried to export, reimported to new folder as suggested. Only one message was successfully imported and this message then showed the same symptoms. What happens when you copy all messages to another (new) folder and double click the copies afterwards? same effect - no message loaded ??? Just before sending this reply, I went back into the problem emails to fiddle once again with the settings. As the emails were still shown in preview I thought I might have inadvertently changed a setting. I don't know what I did, just went through the options under view and looked at character settings and global view. I don't think I actually changed anything but all of a sudden, everything works as it should including the emails in the test folder that I had just checked 5 minutes ago. Now I am totally baffled. -- Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No message loaded
Hi Dean Friday, September 8, 2006, 11:15:37 PM, you wrote: I ran into the same problem. I reloaded the MSI file, went back a version and still had grey messages. I eventually went back to the latest 385.01 version and after about 30 minutes all of sudden the emails just started to show up on the preview screen. Weird, yes I know. The messages I received today have not had that problem so I don't know what to attribute this strange behavior. My problem is also gone (hopefully) and as far as I can tell not because I did anything. Let's hope this issue won't pop up again. It's interesting to know though that I am not the only one with this experience. -- Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message loaded
Hallo Tom, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 23:03:31 +1000GMT (8-9-2006, 15:03 , where I live), you wrote: TL You are very observant, certainly more observant than I am. My TL signature was wrong, I had only amended the sig in new messages but TL not updated the reply function. I am still using 3.85.02. You could change your sig to: The Bat! %TheBatVersion That will keep your sig up to date without changing it with every upgrade. TL actually changed anything but all of a sudden, everything works as it TL should including the emails in the test folder that I had just checked TL 5 minutes ago. Now I am totally baffled. All's well that ends well. Consider me baffled too. -- Groetjes, Roelof The shortest distance between two Points is a BossNode. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpITaM1m9NJS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
Hello Steven, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:03 -0400 GMT (08/09/2006, 19:07 +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: SPV I seem to be collecting more and more .MSG files SPV in my default attachments folder. I've searched TB's help SPV system and none of the hits for MSG seem to have anything SPV to do with these files. They seem to contain email message SPV bodies, and therefore that are, by definition, *NOT SPV ATTACHMENTS* ! ! ! So I must ask: SPV 1. Why are they collecting in my attachments folder? This would usually only happen if these .msg files are attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? SPV 2. How do I stop TB from doing this silly thing? Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) SPV 3. If I delete these .MSG files, will I lose access to SPVthe body of the message from inside TB, or does it SPVsave another copy somewhere else (as it should be SPVdoing)? The message body is stored in the .tbb file, but it may be an empty message, if my theory about those being forwards is correct. SPV(The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of SPVthe message bodies, but attachments as well, so one SPVwould assume the neither the body NOR the attachment SPVis lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) You seem to be storing the attachments in the Attachments directory, so those will be lost if you delete the files. SPV Please help, a directory with many thousands of files in SPV it is nearly unusable in Windows XP (too [EMAIL PROTECTED]$ SLOW!). Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading the message bodies. -- Cheers, Thomas. Rechnen Sie mit robotron! Unsere Mikroelektronik ist einfach nicht klein zu kriegen! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Handling of Attachments
Hello Everyone, I am wondering about the best way to deal with attachments? I am getting quite a few reports with attachments sent on a weekly basis and I tend to file many of the attached files on my HD anyway. Usually it's good to know that if I cannot find something later on my HD but remember where it came from, it's probably still somewhere in TB and I can save the relevant file again. However this obviously means that my inbox or rather the relevant subfolders is growing rapidly not only by messages but also mb. Any tips from a working environment on how to best organise files with attachments using TB? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
Hallo Steven, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:03 -0400GMT (8-9-2006, 14:07 , where I live), you wrote: SPV(The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of SPVthe message bodies, but attachments as well, so one SPVwould assume the neither the body NOR the attachment SPVis lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) This implies that you're not storing your attachments in an attachment folder. Are you putting your attachments in that directory with a filter? If so could that filter (or maybe another one) export your messages to that directory too? -- Groetjes, Roelof Love is chemistry; sex is mechanical engineering. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaIbmDy6Bza.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
Henk M. de Bruijn stelde de volgende uitleg voor : Don't forget to backup I'didn't. I uninstalled TB! the proper way (add/remove) I unchecked the option to keep settings and data I deleted the folder Rit in the registry (current_user) I re-installed the Bat! (admittedly opting for 'restore backup'),I had to put in my registration key, but my old accounts were still there. Data too. There were only some minor changes in font type. The attachment problem is still there too: I cannot attach anything either trough the button, nor through keyboard short cuts, for the browse window does not show my files (it does show folders). I can only attach by dragging the attachment into the editor. So where does TheBat! store the settings that control this browser window explorer type function? I know I should try a acomplete reinstall without putting back a back up, but at the moment I do not have the time. Jim Kyle suggested earlier in this thread This information is usually stored, invisibly to the user, as part of the EXE file but by uninstalling and reinstalling sureley that .exe file has been repaired? Any more ideas? -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
Good afternoon A.Translator, It was foretold that on 8/09/2006 @ 15:48:19 GMT+0200 (which was 15:48:19 where I live) A.Translator would write: snipped a bit AT Jim Kyle suggested earlier in this thread This information is usually stored, AT invisibly to the user, as part of the EXE file but by uninstalling and AT reinstalling sureley that .exe file has been repaired? erhm... maybe a DOH question: did you download a fresh exe? -- Best regards, Luc http://www.dzinelabs.com --- Powered by The Bat! version 3.85.02 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 and using the best browser: Opera. Computers in the future may weigh no more than one ton. - Popular Mechanics,1949. Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
Luc gebruikte zijn klavier om te schrijven : did you download a fresh exe? Yes, I did. But you have a point ;-) -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smiley
Hello Tom everyone else, on 08-Sep-2006 at 00:41 you (Tom) wrote: I must be particularly slow today but I cannot figure out how to use the insert smile function in the new version that I just downloaded. The smileys are not embedded in the message, if thats what you mean. Its TB's own implementation. The smileys are kept locally with each installation and only an identifier is sent in the message, in the style of :smileyhandle: - TB runs its own interpreter over the message and shows the local image (if its there!) instead of the handle. While it does that, it still does'n show *bold* _underline_ or /italics/ which is a pity if you ask me... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Equations are more important to me, because politics is for the present, but an equation is something for eternity. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachements can only be dragged
A.Translator had uiteengezet : The attachment problem is still there too: I cannot attach anything either trough the button, nor through keyboard short cuts, for the browse window does not show my files (it does show folders). After de-installing and re-installing TB! I did not see the plugin voor the AntiSpamSniper, so I hit the ADD button and browsed to the sniper.exe: no problem. This browse window does show all file types, so it is just the editor's browse window that does not function properly. (I use the Micro-Ed editor, but just to check tried the Windows editor just now: same problem). -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: .MSG files
Roelof, Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:33:13 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Steven, RO On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:07:03 -0400GMT (8-9-2006, 14:07 , where I live), RO you wrote: SPV(The messages.tbb files seem to have not only all of SPVthe message bodies, but attachments as well, so one SPVwould assume the neither the body NOR the attachment SPVis lost if these stupid .MSG files are removed.) RO This implies that you're not storing your attachments in an attachment RO folder. Are you putting your attachments in that directory with a RO filter? If so could that filter (or maybe another one) export your RO messages to that directory too? I was storing all attachments to the same folder (C:\Download\Attachments). The .MSG files appear to be plain printable ASCII and contain an entire message BODY, plus all HEADERS. I'd really like to find out why TB thinks it should save all my email message bodies in my attachments folder. -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: .MSG files
Thomas, Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:27:15 AM, you wrote: TF This would usually only happen if these .msg files are TF attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you TF didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. The files look like plain printable ASCII of the complete message header and body -- minus any attachment(s). TF Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? Not that I'm aware of. TF Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments TF in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) I didn't find that setting under Options. In my version it has moved to 'Files directories' ... but I changed it anyway, to see what happens. TF Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary TF directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. TF Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading TF the message bodies. Good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. I'll give it a try. -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: .MSG files
SPV Thomas, SPV Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:27:15 AM, you wrote: TF This would usually only happen if these .msg files are TF attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you TF didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. SPV The files look like plain printable ASCII of the complete SPV message header and body -- minus any attachment(s). TF Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? SPV Not that I'm aware of. TF Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments TF in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) SPV I didn't find that setting under Options. In my version it SPV has moved to 'Files directories' ... but I changed it SPV anyway, to see what happens. TF Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary TF directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. TF Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading TF the message bodies. SPV Good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. I'll give it SPV a try. I tried a few things: moving the .MSG files does not seem to have affected my ability to read the bodies of recent messages that I didn't want to lose. GOOD I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting to 'in message bodies' and send myself a message from my RoadRunner account using their web mail. No .MSG file appeared. I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting back to 'in a separate directory' and sent myself another message from my RoadRunner account. Still no .MSG file. Apparently, these must be some sort of unnamed attachment or something (since TB names them all using an 8 digit sequential number.MSG) that is coming in with some (or most?) of the SPAM I am receiving. If the TB developers are reading this, it sure would be nice if I could define my own list of attachment types to save or NOT save. Better yet, have both options and allow the user to choose which way to go: list the only extension types to be saved OR save all EXCEPT the listed extension types. Heck, maybe even a file type table allowing different extensions to be saved (or not) to different folders! I know, I'm probably asking too much, but what the heck, the worst they can do is nothing, right? smile Thanks for the ideas. I guess I'll just manually delete all the stupid .MSG as often as I notice them. -- Steve Vallière | tb3.82.05 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Handling of Attachments
Tom, Friday, September 8, 2006, 6:29:44 PM, you wrote: T Any tips from a working environment on how to best organise files with T attachments using TB? I store attachments in external directories as a rule. Sometimes I'll copy or move an attachment to a different directory depending on its content. (That I have to do manually, unless someone can tell me how to automate it somehow.) This way I can either look for an attachment within TB! by sender or just go to the attachment directory and sort by name or search for it. -- Rick Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: account properties and connection center
Hi M, on Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:11:26 +0700GMT (06.09.2006, 05:11 +0200GMT here), you wrote: SD 1. It's much easier if you can add a dropdown menu or something else MSD in account properties for changing different account quickly/directly without MSD having to close the account properties first. You're so right! Thank you for bringing it up. I put it on the wishlist to get the developers' attention. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6023 -- Cheers Peter Don't humanize computers. They hate that! Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hi On Friday 8 September 2006 at 4:36:50 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull wrote: Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got 3.xx. If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months, anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one being given to others who were upgrading. YMMV but I bought v2 *twelve days* before v3 was released. Several emails to RITlabs elicited the following standard reply:- You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. The Bat! version that you purchased is fully functional and has no time limit in using. Upgrading is optional. -- Best regards, MFPA You're only young once; you can be immature forever Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hello MFPA! On Friday, September 08, 2006, 5:15 PM, you wrote: Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got 3.xx. If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months, anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one being given to others who were upgrading. YMMV but I bought v2 *twelve days* before v3 was released. Several emails to RITlabs elicited the following standard reply:- You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. The Bat! version that you purchased is fully functional and has no time limit in using. Upgrading is optional. Maybe my memory is confused and only wishful thinking. Buyer Beware, I reckon, should be the watchword. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade?
Hi On Friday 8 September 2006 at 11:49:34 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull wrote: Maybe my memory is confused and only wishful thinking. It was said on this list at the time that some people who had only just purchased v1 a few days before the release of v2 were sent a new key free when they contacted RIT. Buyer Beware, I reckon, should be the watchword. Indeed. -- Best regards, MFPA Always borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
Hello Steven, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:02:41 -0400 GMT (08/09/2006, 23:02 +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: TF This would usually only happen if these .msg files are TF attachments to messages you received. If you are sure you TF didn't receive MIME-attached messages this would be weird. SPV The files look like plain printable ASCII of the complete SPV message header and body -- minus any attachment(s). With what you say below, I think my assumption was right that these were MIME-attached messages. TF Do you receive a lot of look at this forwards? SPV Not that I'm aware of. You mention spam later on - this may be the source of the MIME-attached messages. TF Account / Properties / Options / Keep attachments TF in Message Body. (If these files are attachments, that is.) SPV I didn't find that setting under Options. In my version it SPV has moved to 'Files directories' ... Yes, sorry, my bad. SPV but I changed it anyway, to see what happens. TF Try moving these .msg files (all of them) to a temporary TF directory you create for this purpose, while TB is closed. TF Then reopen TB and see whether you have problems reading TF the message bodies. SPV Good idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. I'll give it SPV a try. SPV I tried a few things: moving the .MSG files does not seem to SPV have affected my ability to read the bodies of recent messages SPV that I didn't want to lose. GOOD OK. SPV I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting to 'in message bodies' SPV and send myself a message from my RoadRunner account using their SPV web mail. No .MSG file appeared. Good. SPV I changed the 'Keep attachments' setting back to 'in a separate SPV directory' and sent myself another message from my RoadRunner SPV account. Still no .MSG file. Still good. SPV Apparently, these must be some sort of unnamed attachment or SPV something (since TB names them all using an 8 digit sequential SPV number.MSG) that is coming in with some (or most?) of the SPAM SPV I am receiving. I would think so too. SPV If the TB developers are reading this, it sure would be nice if SPV I could define my own list of attachment types to save or NOT SPV save. Better yet, have both options and allow the user to choose SPV which way to go: list the only extension types to be saved OR SPV save all EXCEPT the listed extension types. This may be possible with Incoming filters, I didn't check. -- Cheers, Thomas. This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us. -- Western Union internal memo, 1876. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.85.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing pop up addresses
Roelof, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, at 10:56:31 [GMT +0200] (18:56:31 08/09/2006 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: But you can also configure TB to only show addresses from your A and you should keep your AB current, that's why I pointed you to that option. (rest snipped) Thanks for the help. -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing pop up addresses
Ian, On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, at 19:08:25 [GMT +1000] (19:08:25 08/09/2006 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: If this is an address in the history rather than the address book, pick the arrow to bring up the list, then press the down arrow on the keyboard to bring you to the list. Scroll down to the appropriate one and press the Delete key on the keyboard. Thanks Ian. Simple if you know how! -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .MSG files
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 at 12:02:41 -0400, Steven wrote: Apparently, these must be some sort of unnamed attachment or something (since TB names them all using an 8 digit sequential number.MSG) that is coming in with some (or most?) of the SPAM I am receiving. You didn't at some stage export a folder of messages in .msg format into that directory, perhaps unintentionally? That would leave you with a directory full of files like that. If you did, the files would all have the same creation date. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.85.01 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
