Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-01 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, March 1, 2008, 5:14:56 AM, David Elliott wrote:

> I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent
> it to a list.

if it doesn't get in your inbox, how could pop3 collect it from there?

-- 
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385  phone ahead to fax
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com
Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 ()



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-01 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello Rick,

On Saturday, March 1, 2008, 9:44:34 PM, you wrote:

> I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman
> like this one, yahoo groups etc.
>
> That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that
> other than ccing myself or another account.

If you send your mail not with the Gmail smtp but with an other
account (yahoo) then you will receive that mail through the mailing list.

-- 

Cheers,
 Edgar

Communicating with TB! v4.0.11, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2

Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Am I getting smart with you?  How would you
know?

  



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-01 Thread David Elliott
Hello David,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 9:06:45 PM, you wrote:

>>> I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being
>>> returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can
>>> see it in sent items in the web interface.

>> I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman
>> like this one, yahoo groups etc.

>> That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that
>> other than ccing myself or another account. 

> Thought so.

> This is using a different SMTP server so we will see.

And this worked.

I have access to more than one SMTP server.So I used another one.

:)




-- 
Best regards,
 Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re[2]: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-01 Thread David Elliott
Hello Rick,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:44:34 PM, you wrote:

< ... >

>> I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being
>> returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can
>> see it in sent items in the web interface.

>> I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent
>> it to a list. I was hoping that would not apply to POP3 and SMTP.

< ... >

> I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman
> like this one, yahoo groups etc.

> That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that
> other than ccing myself or another account. 

Thought so.

This is using a different SMTP server so we will see.

-- 
Best regards,
 Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-01 Thread Rick Grunwald
> Hello Tbudl,

> This may be OT, but it is to do with this (and other) list/s.

> I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being
> returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can
> see it in sent items in the web interface.

> I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent
> it to a list. I was hoping that would not apply to POP3 and SMTP.

> I have looked at the filter in gMail but can not see one to override
> this behaviour.

> I could set up filters for my out box but I don't really want to
> have to do that.

> My other option is to use a different SMTP server to sent it out.
> Which I might end up to doing.

I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman
like this one, yahoo groups etc.

That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that
other than ccing myself or another account. 


-- 
Rick
Republican tax breaks for large corporations: 
 Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their 
"golden parachute"
 All that money came from somewhere.

v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2

 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


gMail and this list (May be OT)

2008-03-01 Thread David Elliott
Hello Tbudl,

This may be OT, but it is to do with this (and other) list/s.

I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being
returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can
see it in sent items in the web interface.

I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent
it to a list. I was hoping that would not apply to POP3 and SMTP.

I have looked at the filter in gMail but can not see one to override
this behaviour.

I could set up filters for my out box but I don't really want to
have to do that.

My other option is to use a different SMTP server to sent it out.
Which I might end up to doing.


-- 
Best regards,
 David  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts

2008-03-01 Thread Rick Grunwald
>>> How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from
>>> Alt-F2 to just F2?

RG>> By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
RG>> mail for that account only

> That's what I want to change.  I want to reassign the F2 keyboard
> shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account.

> I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 --
> right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts
> tab.  Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of "F2" in that
> enormous list?  I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to
> assign F2 as the shortcut to "Get new mail for all," the change still
> won't stick.


Under shortcuts main form / main menu / account you will see account
and F2 to the right. Remove that and then you can put F2 where you
want it
-- 
Rick
Republican Priorities: ME first, party second, country - last

v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2

 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re[2]: Editing keyboard shortcuts

2008-03-01 Thread Code 2
>> How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from
>> Alt-F2 to just F2?

RG> By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
RG> mail for that account only

That's what I want to change.  I want to reassign the F2 keyboard
shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account.

I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 --
right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts
tab.  Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of "F2" in that
enormous list?  I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to
assign F2 as the shortcut to "Get new mail for all," the change still
won't stick.

-- 
Code 2  :canadaflag:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Bat! version 4.0.14 on Windows XP Service Pack 2
In a Florida maternity ward: No children allowed.



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Rick,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 4:17:13 PM, you wrote:

RG> We're talking about antispam sniper?

No. Antispamsniper (Pro) is not the same as Antispam Sniper (Pro).

Both have a freeware version.

This is what I use: http://www.antispamsniper.com/

also "promoted" here :

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php   :-)

I suppose you are talking about:

http://www.bestsecuritytips.com/content+index.id+6.htm

That, I have never used.

-- 
Best Wishes,
Mark
using The Bat! 4.0.14.9





Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts

2008-03-01 Thread Rick Grunwald
> How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from
> Alt-F2 to just F2?

By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check
mail for that account only

-- 
Rick
Are we in the Post-Bush era yet?

v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2

 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Editing keyboard shortcuts

2008-03-01 Thread Code 2
I just upgraded from Version 2.12.00 and I'm trying to figure out
how to edit the keyboard shortcuts. I used to do it with Alt-F12 or
View | Edit Shortcuts.

In Version 4, when I try to make the changes in the Options |
Preferences... | Other Options | System Hot Keys dialog box, I can't
get my changes to stick.

How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from
Alt-F2 to just F2?

-- 
Code 2  :canadaflag:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Bat! version 4.0.14 on Windows XP Service Pack 2
At a tire shop in Milwaukee: Invite us to your next blowout. 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Peter Meyns
Rick Grunwald wrote:

> It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions.
> In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just
> sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program

I have been using the free version of AntispamSniper along with The Bat!
for a long time - never saw any ads. hmm

-- 
Cheers
Peter


Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Rick Grunwald

> Hello Rick,

> Saturday, March 1, 2008, 2:20:12 PM, you wrote:

RG>> It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions.
RG>> In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just
RG>> sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program

> Says who/what? 

We're talking about antispam sniper?

-- 
Rick
Thank you Mr. Bush for showing us how badly we need change

v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2

 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Rick,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 2:20:12 PM, you wrote:

RG> It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions.
RG> In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just
RG> sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program

Says who/what? 

-- 
Best Wishes,
Mark
using The Bat! 4.0.14.9





Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Rick Grunwald
> Hello Rick,

> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:33:24 -0500GMT Rick Grunwald wrote:

 If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise:

 http://www.antispamsniper.com/

 I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too.

>>> If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it.

>>> I will give it a go.

> ...

RG>> Watch that one - it has gone to a ad based mode that installs even if
RG>> you pay. Plus support is non-existant.

> where did you get the ad info? I use the free version for some month
> now and spybot could never find some ads.

It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions.
In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just
sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program

-- 
Rick
In Bush we trusted, now we are busted

v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2

 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck,

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:53:36 + GMT (01/03/2008, 06:53 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

DE>> Please get your pages at http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php
DE>> sorted out.

MDP> Done. Hey - why didn't anyone tell me they'd got messed up that bad
MDP> by the PHP upgrade? Doesn't anyone ever go there?

I keep recommending it, but have to admit I haven't visited there
myself for a while.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies
giving milk will please come early.
http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.9
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2






Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re[2]: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Rick,

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:33:24 -0500GMT Rick Grunwald wrote:

>>> If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise:

>>> http://www.antispamsniper.com/

>>> I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too.

>> If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it.

>> I will give it a go.

...

RG> Watch that one - it has gone to a ad based mode that installs even if
RG> you pay. Plus support is non-existant.

where did you get the ad info? I use the free version for some month
now and spybot could never find some ads.

-- 
Regards,
Feli  ^^°-°^^:de-bb:

The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


TBUDL Mission Statement

2008-03-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Greetings TB Listers,

This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you
of the primary purpose of this discussion list.

To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message.

Before  posting a question to the list, please check The Bat! User's
FAQ  at:  http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html  and  the list
archive  at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To
subscribe,  send  a message to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There  is also a beginners 'MAQ' (Most Asked Questions) available by
clicking  here:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  and
sending the resulting message.


 TBUDL Mission statement

The  TBUDL  list  has  been set up for the purpose of discussing The
Bat! and how to use it. It is a community of users ready and able to
help  new  users  get to grips with some of the capabilities of this
flexible  email  client.  More  complex  issues are discussed on the
TBTECH list (see below for details).

Simply  send  messages to mailto:TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com to send it
to the whole list.

See  the  notes  at the end of this message for details about how to
manage your list membership or to leave the list.


It  would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep
TBUDL  messages  in.  If  you do this, the next most useful thing to
have  in  place  is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox
into your TBUDL folder.

Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for:

Header Field [Reply-To] Contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The Roguemoticon Project


It's  nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them
to  see  yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish
to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat
What  this  place  will  do  for  you  is  to allow you to create an
account,  add  your  image  and  then  let  you download a .ZIP file
containing  all  the  files  you'll  need to be able so see people's
faces  without  having  to  send  or  receive any real images in any
messages.

To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone
reading  your  message  using  TB,  you have the choice of using the
X-Rogue: header or a signature trigger.

  How to use a signature trigger
The  image  is  triggered  by  a 'Handle' you've defined in your
account,  and  when  that  Handle  appears  in a message it gets
replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle
could  look  like anything you want it to look like pretty much.
For example:
:Marck_Pearlstone:
Just add this text to your standard message signature block.

  How to create the X-Rogue: header
You can do that with this macro:
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%-  in  your  templates for
this and other tb-lists.
However, the macro alone won't do the trick.
TB'll  say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so
you'll have to define it as such:
Options  ..  Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add'

Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header

  Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
  RFC header: X-Rogue
  Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
  Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
  Uncheck:  'Display  this  field  in the scrollable part of the
  header pane'

Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when
they've installed the roguemoticons.

For you to see peoples faces:

  To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch
  the following file:
  http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip

  Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
  directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images
  You  should  now  have a directory called 'rogues' containing many
  images  as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.
  Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
  hit  Shift-CTRL-Alt-T  while  TB!  is in focus. This will re-fetch
  TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.


TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list

One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic
discussions  of public interest. Please feel free to join this list,
where many of our readership currently participate.

Ad

Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Rick Grunwald
> Hello Mark,

> Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:12:04 AM, you wrote:

> < ... >

>> If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise:

>> http://www.antispamsniper.com/

>> I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too.

> If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it.

> I will give it a go.

> /me note to self

> Must get my templates sorted.

Watch that one - it has gone to a ad based mode that installs even if
you pay. Plus support is non-existant.

AntispamServant has served me well.


-- 
Rick
The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people

v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 2

 



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Top-level folder has disappeared.

2008-03-01 Thread MAU
Hello Robin,

>> I have seen this happen before myself and, as far as I know, these
>> 'reappeared' folders are 'leftovers' from the past. There were some 
>> buggy versions of TB that, even selecting 'Wipe' option when deleting a
>> folder, would delete the contents but not the folder itself. At least 
>> that is my experience.
>
> I used to run the TB plugin for Google desktop, and it left some sort
> of an index file in the folder on the disk. So when I told TB to wipe
> a TB folder and remove it from the disk, it couldn't because the
> folder on disk was not empty.A subsequent CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L would
> find that empty folder.

I did also run TB plugin for Google desktop some time in the past, some 
of my 'leftovers' may date from then.

-- 
Best regards,

Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9




Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread David Elliott
Hello Mark,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:12:04 AM, you wrote:

< ... >

> If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise:

> http://www.antispamsniper.com/

> I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too.

If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it.

I will give it a go.

/me note to self

Must get my templates sorted.


-- 
Best regards,
 Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Back to TB

2008-03-01 Thread Mark Partous

Hello David,

Saturday, March 1, 2008, 12:11:07 AM, you wrote:

DE> 3) Anti Span. OK what is out there.

Why don't you try spic?

You can find it here, but it's hard to get without a portion of span:

http://www.spicnspan.com/ :-)

If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise:

http://www.antispamsniper.com/

I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too.

-- 
Best Wishes,
Mark
using The Bat! 4.0.14.9





Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html


Re: Top-level folder has disappeared.

2008-03-01 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 at 14:21:39 +0100, MAU wrote:> Hello Hans,
> I have seen this happen before myself and, as far as I know, these
> 'reappeared' folders are 'leftovers' from the past. There were some 
> buggy versions of TB that, even selecting 'Wipe' option when deleting a
> folder, would delete the contents but not the folder itself. At least 
> that is my experience.

I used to run the TB plugin for Google desktop, and it left some sort
of an index file in the folder on the disk. So when I told TB to wipe
a TB folder and remove it from the disk, it couldn't because the
folder on disk was not empty.A subsequent CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L would
find that empty folder.

-- 
Robin

Using The Bat! v4.0.14
  Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
  Popfile v0.22.4




Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html