Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)
On Saturday, March 1, 2008, 5:14:56 AM, David Elliott wrote: > I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent > it to a list. if it doesn't get in your inbox, how could pop3 collect it from there? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)
Hello Rick, On Saturday, March 1, 2008, 9:44:34 PM, you wrote: > I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman > like this one, yahoo groups etc. > > That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that > other than ccing myself or another account. If you send your mail not with the Gmail smtp but with an other account (yahoo) then you will receive that mail through the mailing list. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v4.0.11, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Am I getting smart with you? How would you know? Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)
Hello David, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 9:06:45 PM, you wrote: >>> I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being >>> returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can >>> see it in sent items in the web interface. >> I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman >> like this one, yahoo groups etc. >> That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that >> other than ccing myself or another account. > Thought so. > This is using a different SMTP server so we will see. And this worked. I have access to more than one SMTP server.So I used another one. :) -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: gMail and this list (May be OT)
Hello Rick, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:44:34 PM, you wrote: < ... > >> I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being >> returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can >> see it in sent items in the web interface. >> I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent >> it to a list. I was hoping that would not apply to POP3 and SMTP. < ... > > I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman > like this one, yahoo groups etc. > That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that > other than ccing myself or another account. Thought so. This is using a different SMTP server so we will see. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gMail and this list (May be OT)
> Hello Tbudl, > This may be OT, but it is to do with this (and other) list/s. > I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being > returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can > see it in sent items in the web interface. > I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent > it to a list. I was hoping that would not apply to POP3 and SMTP. > I have looked at the filter in gMail but can not see one to override > this behaviour. > I could set up filters for my out box but I don't really want to > have to do that. > My other option is to use a different SMTP server to sent it out. > Which I might end up to doing. I have never seen gmail return my mail to me on any group; Listman like this one, yahoo groups etc. That's just the way it works and I never found a way around that other than ccing myself or another account. -- Rick Republican tax breaks for large corporations: Remember them the next time you see a CEO with hundreds of million$ in their "golden parachute" All that money came from somewhere. v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
gMail and this list (May be OT)
Hello Tbudl, This may be OT, but it is to do with this (and other) list/s. I am using gMail via POP3 & SMPT and I am not see my own e-mail being returned to this list. I think that it is a property of gMail as I can see it in sent items in the web interface. I know that gMail will not show your email in the inbox if you sent it to a list. I was hoping that would not apply to POP3 and SMTP. I have looked at the filter in gMail but can not see one to override this behaviour. I could set up filters for my out box but I don't really want to have to do that. My other option is to use a different SMTP server to sent it out. Which I might end up to doing. -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts
>>> How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from >>> Alt-F2 to just F2? RG>> By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check RG>> mail for that account only > That's what I want to change. I want to reassign the F2 keyboard > shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account. > I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 -- > right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts > tab. Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of "F2" in that > enormous list? I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to > assign F2 as the shortcut to "Get new mail for all," the change still > won't stick. Under shortcuts main form / main menu / account you will see account and F2 to the right. Remove that and then you can put F2 where you want it -- Rick Republican Priorities: ME first, party second, country - last v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Editing keyboard shortcuts
>> How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from >> Alt-F2 to just F2? RG> By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check RG> mail for that account only That's what I want to change. I want to reassign the F2 keyboard shortcut to check all accounts, not just a single account. I found how to access the keyboard shortcuts in Version 4 -- right-click on the toolbar, click Customise and select the Shortcuts tab. Is there an easy way to locate all the instances of "F2" in that enormous list? I mustn't have changed them all, because when I try to assign F2 as the shortcut to "Get new mail for all," the change still won't stick. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 4.0.14 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 In a Florida maternity ward: No children allowed. Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello Rick, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 4:17:13 PM, you wrote: RG> We're talking about antispam sniper? No. Antispamsniper (Pro) is not the same as Antispam Sniper (Pro). Both have a freeware version. This is what I use: http://www.antispamsniper.com/ also "promoted" here : http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php :-) I suppose you are talking about: http://www.bestsecuritytips.com/content+index.id+6.htm That, I have never used. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing keyboard shortcuts
> How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from > Alt-F2 to just F2? By default when you highlight an account and hit F2, it will check mail for that account only -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Editing keyboard shortcuts
I just upgraded from Version 2.12.00 and I'm trying to figure out how to edit the keyboard shortcuts. I used to do it with Alt-F12 or View | Edit Shortcuts. In Version 4, when I try to make the changes in the Options | Preferences... | Other Options | System Hot Keys dialog box, I can't get my changes to stick. How can I change the "Check mail for all accounts" function from Alt-F2 to just F2? -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 4.0.14 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 At a tire shop in Milwaukee: Invite us to your next blowout. Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Rick Grunwald wrote: > It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions. > In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just > sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program I have been using the free version of AntispamSniper along with The Bat! for a long time - never saw any ads. hmm -- Cheers Peter Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
> Hello Rick, > Saturday, March 1, 2008, 2:20:12 PM, you wrote: RG>> It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions. RG>> In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just RG>> sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program > Says who/what? We're talking about antispam sniper? -- Rick Thank you Mr. Bush for showing us how badly we need change v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello Rick, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 2:20:12 PM, you wrote: RG> It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions. RG> In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just RG> sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program Says who/what? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
> Hello Rick, > On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:33:24 -0500GMT Rick Grunwald wrote: If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise: http://www.antispamsniper.com/ I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too. >>> If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it. >>> I will give it a go. > ... RG>> Watch that one - it has gone to a ad based mode that installs even if RG>> you pay. Plus support is non-existant. > where did you get the ad info? I use the free version for some month > now and spybot could never find some ads. It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions. In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program -- Rick In Bush we trusted, now we are busted v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello Marck, On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:53:36 + GMT (01/03/2008, 06:53 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DE>> Please get your pages at http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php DE>> sorted out. MDP> Done. Hey - why didn't anyone tell me they'd got messed up that bad MDP> by the PHP upgrade? Doesn't anyone ever go there? I keep recommending it, but have to admit I haven't visited there myself for a while. -- Cheers, Thomas. Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.9 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Back to TB
Hello Rick, On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:33:24 -0500GMT Rick Grunwald wrote: >>> If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise: >>> http://www.antispamsniper.com/ >>> I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too. >> If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it. >> I will give it a go. ... RG> Watch that one - it has gone to a ad based mode that installs even if RG> you pay. Plus support is non-existant. where did you get the ad info? I use the free version for some month now and spybot could never find some ads. -- Regards, Feli ^^°-°^^:de-bb: The Bat! 4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TBUDL Mission Statement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings TB Listers, This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you of the primary purpose of this discussion list. To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message. Before posting a question to the list, please check The Bat! User's FAQ at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and the list archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There is also a beginners 'MAQ' (Most Asked Questions) available by clicking here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and sending the resulting message. TBUDL Mission statement The TBUDL list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The Bat! and how to use it. It is a community of users ready and able to help new users get to grips with some of the capabilities of this flexible email client. More complex issues are discussed on the TBTECH list (see below for details). Simply send messages to mailto:TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com to send it to the whole list. See the notes at the end of this message for details about how to manage your list membership or to leave the list. It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your TBUDL folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for: Header Field [Reply-To] Contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Roguemoticon Project It's nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them to see yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site http://www.pcwize.com/thebat What this place will do for you is to allow you to create an account, add your image and then let you download a .ZIP file containing all the files you'll need to be able so see people's faces without having to send or receive any real images in any messages. To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone reading your message using TB, you have the choice of using the X-Rogue: header or a signature trigger. How to use a signature trigger The image is triggered by a 'Handle' you've defined in your account, and when that Handle appears in a message it gets replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle could look like anything you want it to look like pretty much. For example: :Marck_Pearlstone: Just add this text to your standard message signature block. How to create the X-Rogue: header You can do that with this macro: %SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%- in your templates for this and other tb-lists. However, the macro alone won't do the trick. TB'll say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so you'll have to define it as such: Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add' Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important) RFC header: X-Rogue Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't) Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor' Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the header pane' Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when they've installed the roguemoticons. For you to see peoples faces: To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch the following file: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory. Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic discussions of public interest. Please feel free to join this list, where many of our readership currently participate. Ad
Re: Back to TB
> Hello Mark, > Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:12:04 AM, you wrote: > < ... > >> If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise: >> http://www.antispamsniper.com/ >> I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too. > If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it. > I will give it a go. > /me note to self > Must get my templates sorted. Watch that one - it has gone to a ad based mode that installs even if you pay. Plus support is non-existant. AntispamServant has served me well. -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.14.9 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top-level folder has disappeared.
Hello Robin, >> I have seen this happen before myself and, as far as I know, these >> 'reappeared' folders are 'leftovers' from the past. There were some >> buggy versions of TB that, even selecting 'Wipe' option when deleting a >> folder, would delete the contents but not the folder itself. At least >> that is my experience. > > I used to run the TB plugin for Google desktop, and it left some sort > of an index file in the folder on the disk. So when I told TB to wipe > a TB folder and remove it from the disk, it couldn't because the > folder on disk was not empty.A subsequent CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L would > find that empty folder. I did also run TB plugin for Google desktop some time in the past, some of my 'leftovers' may date from then. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello Mark, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:12:04 AM, you wrote: < ... > > If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise: > http://www.antispamsniper.com/ > I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too. If it is any good I don't mind paying the $19.95 for it. I will give it a go. /me note to self Must get my templates sorted. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello David, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 12:11:07 AM, you wrote: DE> 3) Anti Span. OK what is out there. Why don't you try spic? You can find it here, but it's hard to get without a portion of span: http://www.spicnspan.com/ :-) If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise: http://www.antispamsniper.com/ I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top-level folder has disappeared.
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 at 14:21:39 +0100, MAU wrote:> Hello Hans, > I have seen this happen before myself and, as far as I know, these > 'reappeared' folders are 'leftovers' from the past. There were some > buggy versions of TB that, even selecting 'Wipe' option when deleting a > folder, would delete the contents but not the folder itself. At least > that is my experience. I used to run the TB plugin for Google desktop, and it left some sort of an index file in the folder on the disk. So when I told TB to wipe a TB folder and remove it from the disk, it couldn't because the folder on disk was not empty.A subsequent CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-L would find that empty folder. -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.14 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html