Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello Rick, On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:07:56 -0400 GMT (29/08/2008, 09:07 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R> Interesting ... I have thought it would be interesting to have a R> counter - count down to an event for instance or count up (how many R> days since) in a cookie. I have not thought it a serious enough enough R> feature to suggest it :)) That is already possible. I saw " days until Christmas..." or "already living days and xxx hours" on this list or on TBOT. Again, this is made an internal command (template macro) which requests the information from outside and puts it into the message at the pre-defined spot. It is not an external command. An external command would insert anything into your message which is not in the template. -- Cheers, Thomas. Das Kaspische Meer ist eigentlich kein Meer, sondern bloss ein See, denn es ist von allen Seiten von Wasser umflossen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
> Hello Jens, > On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:27:09 +0200 GMT (29/08/2008, 02:27 +0700 GMT), > Jens Franik wrote: >>> Can you help my imagination and describe a scenario? JF>> Insert a whois lookup, insert Statistic of something, ... > And you want to insert all this through an external command without > the template asking for it by way of a macro? Well, people work > differently. Interesting ... I have thought it would be interesting to have a counter - count down to an event for instance or count up (how many days since) in a cookie. I have not thought it a serious enough enough feature to suggest it :)) -- Rick In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell v4.0.28.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello Jens, On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:27:09 +0200 GMT (29/08/2008, 02:27 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: >> Can you help my imagination and describe a scenario? JF> Insert a whois lookup, insert Statistic of something, ... And you want to insert all this through an external command without the template asking for it by way of a macro? Well, people work differently. -- Cheers, Thomas. Stossseufzer eines Malers: "Schon wieder eine Woche verstrichen!" http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
> Hi, > on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:42:28 +0200GMT I wrote: PM>> on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:23:24 -0400GMT (28.08.2008, 18:23 +0200GMT here), PM>> you wrote: R>>> Is there any easy way from within The Bat to cycle through cookies? R>>> Let's say I didn't want the one that was randomly attached to this R>>> email ... R>>> (It's in a file in an address book template) > I overlooked this sentence. My proposal works with Quick Templates. So > make your address book template a quick one and the procedure below > will work. PM>> Yes. Highlight the unwanted cookie and type the handle of your cookie PM>> template. Hit + and you're done. If you don't like the PM>> next one you can go back to the handle with +Z and PM>> + again. This can be repeated very quickly until the PM>> *right* cookie appears. That works like a charm! Thanks :)) -- Rick Republicans are heartless v4.0.28.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hi On Wednesday 27 August 2008 at 9:53:38 PM, in , Dan Lester wrote: > You can also do what I do, to install TB in a non-standard location, > that is always backed up daily, including program, mail, cookies, etc, > etc. Presumably, you could do the same if TB! is installed in the default location. -- Best regards, MFPA COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Using The Bat! v4.0.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unread folders, redux
On Thursday, August 28, 2008, at 2:53:49 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > When viewing unread folders there are multiple instances of "inbox" > and there is no way of knowing which is which. Highlight the "unread" virtual folder, then in the "view" menu select "message list columns" and add a checkmark to the "folder" entry. You can move the entry to the position you want; I have mine as the rightmost on the display. This will show you the account and folder for each message in the list (at least it does here on version 3.85). I made this change quite some time back to help me locate client correspondence that had been automatically filtered. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A with AntiSpamSniper Version 2.7.1.5 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unread folders, redux
Is there a way to rename the "inbox" folders? I can't seem to find one, and if there isn't, I hope one can be added someday. When viewing unread folders there are multiple instances of "inbox" and there is no way of knowing which is which. Yes, they're in order, but if only four of ten have something new, I don't know which is which. thanks dan -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 um 17:36 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: > Can you help my imagination and describe a scenario? Insert a whois lookup, insert Statistic of something, ... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.28.4 & AntiSpamSniper 2.8.1.1 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hi, on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:42:28 +0200GMT I wrote: PM> on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:23:24 -0400GMT (28.08.2008, 18:23 +0200GMT here), PM> you wrote: R>> Is there any easy way from within The Bat to cycle through cookies? R>> Let's say I didn't want the one that was randomly attached to this R>> email ... R>> (It's in a file in an address book template) I overlooked this sentence. My proposal works with Quick Templates. So make your address book template a quick one and the procedure below will work. PM> Yes. Highlight the unwanted cookie and type the handle of your cookie PM> template. Hit + and you're done. If you don't like the PM> next one you can go back to the handle with +Z and PM> + again. This can be repeated very quickly until the PM> *right* cookie appears. -- Cheers Peter Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. Samuel Butler (1612-1680) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hi Rick, on Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:23:24 -0400GMT (28.08.2008, 18:23 +0200GMT here), you wrote: R> Is there any easy way from within The Bat to cycle through cookies? R> Let's say I didn't want the one that was randomly attached to this R> email ... R> (It's in a file in an address book template) Yes. Highlight the unwanted cookie and type the handle of your cookie template. Hit + and you're done. If you don't like the next one you can go back to the handle with +Z and + again. This can be repeated very quickly until the *right* cookie appears. -- Cheers Peter The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx (1890-1977) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
> Ah well, I experimented to see whether the original or the changed > text would be sent - and the unmodified version of my message made it. > So, it looks like the answer could be the %Run macro (from MyMacros). Is there any easy way from within The Bat to cycle through cookies? Let's say I didn't want the one that was randomly attached to this email ... (It's in a file in an address book template) -- Rick McCain Would Give America’s 200 Largest Corporations $45 Billion In Tax Breaks http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/06/26/fortune-200-report/ v4.0.28.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
On 28 August 2008, 17:08, Geoff Lane wrote: > I know that the sorting office filters can create a temporary text > file to contain the message content and pass the name of that file to > an external command as the first formal parameter. As I write, I've no > idea whether the external command can modify the message content so > I've set up a small experiment to pause processing to let me modify > the file by hand and see what happens. If this text goes through > unaltered, it means that an external command set in an outgoing filter > won't be able to modify message text. ~~~ Ah well, I experimented to see whether the original or the changed text would be sent - and the unmodified version of my message made it. So, it looks like the answer could be the %Run macro (from MyMacros). -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 RamDisk is *not* an installation procedure Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
On 28 August 2008, 16:36, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I see. I hadn't caught the gist of your question. > I don't see how an external command could technically do that, I think > the macro needs a command that requests the information. > However, I don't know how the macros and templates really work behind > the scenes, so I am not sure it's impossible. Personally, I cannot > imagine a need for this though. Can you help my imagination and > describe a scenario? ~~~ I know that the sorting office filters can create a temporary text file to contain the message content and pass the name of that file to an external command as the first formal parameter. As I write, I've no idea whether the external command can modify the message content so I've set up a small experiment to pause processing to let me modify the file by hand and see what happens. If this text goes through unaltered, it means that an external command set in an outgoing filter won't be able to modify message text. In the meantime, as I wrote upthread, there are uses for this sort of thing. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello Jens, On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:54:14 +0200 GMT (28/08/2008, 18:54 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF>>> Is it possible to have a external Command executed and the Output of it JF>>> inserted into the Template? Would be interesting... >> You've been told about the %Put macro that offers the optioon to >> import text files into your template. >> You can run commands with the %Run macro, the %Run macro is available >> to those who've installed the MyMacros plugin. JF> And while the Templates are processed sequentially, i hope, this will JF> work and i will try this out. It on my list now. Thank you all. Hm. Looks like I'm still not understanding what you mean. These are macros that request information (or even trigger action), not an external command that inserts something by itself. -- Cheers, Thomas. Ohnosecond: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize you've just made a big mistake. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello Jens, On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:49:23 +0200 GMT (28/08/2008, 17:49 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF>>> Is it possible to have a external Command executed and the Output of it JF>>> inserted into the Template? Would be interesting... JF>>> (i never did this) >> An internal command (%Cookie=) will insert the cookie. Why would you >> want to use an external command for that? JF> This was a wrong conclusion, i did not talk about "for that", but my JF> mind went ahead by thinking of other possiblilities, which could be JF> nice, if this would work. I see. I hadn't caught the gist of your question. I don't see how an external command could technically do that, I think the macro needs a command that requests the information. However, I don't know how the macros and templates really work behind the scenes, so I am not sure it's impossible. Personally, I cannot imagine a need for this though. Can you help my imagination and describe a scenario? -- Cheers, Thomas. A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Speaking of signatures
Thursday, August 28, 2008, 5:33:09 AM, you wrote: > You can download them from http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/mymacros.zip > The ZIP file includes a 'readme' and a Help file which explains all > macros available in the set and how to use them. > See my signature :-) Is there a macro for iTunes? With a 3G iPhone and a couple of iPods, I finally made the switch. -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
am Donnerstag, 28. August 2008 um 13:32 schrieb Roelof Otten: JF>> Is it possible to have a external Command executed and the Output of it JF>> inserted into the Template? Would be interesting... > You've been told about the %Put macro that offers the optioon to > import text files into your template. > You can run commands with the %Run macro, the %Run macro is available > to those who've installed the MyMacros plugin. And while the Templates are processed sequentially, i hope, this will work and i will try this out. It on my list now. Thank you all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.28.4 & AntiSpamSniper 2.8.1.1 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
On 28 August 2008, 12:33, MAU wrote: > The macro set "MyMacros" for The Bat! includes two macros specific for > Winamp: > %WinAmpStatus > %WinAmpTitle > You can download them from http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/mymacros.zip > The ZIP file includes a 'readme' and a Help file which explains all > macros available in the set and how to use them. ~~~ Excellent - thanks Miguel. I don't normally run with VTitleSpy enabled and just did it there to illustrate how the PUT macro can insert text from an external program since it seemed relevant to the OP's question. Unfortunately, as you can see from my sig, I'm running a very old version of TB! and it seems that "MyMacros" doesn't work with TB version 1? -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Major coffee failure - operator halted. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello Geoff, > You might want to include some time-variable information, such as how > many days remain to an epic trip, or something as mundane as what is > currently playing on Winamp. See the last line of my sig? This was > created with a Winamp plugin called VTitleSpy that generates a text > file containing just that last line, which it keeps up to date so that > you know I was actually listening to Afro Celt Sound System while > typing this message. To insert the text output from an external > command, use the PUT macro, in my case it's: > %PUT="c:\temp\vtitlespy.txt" The macro set "MyMacros" for The Bat! includes two macros specific for Winamp: %WinAmpStatus %WinAmpTitle You can download them from http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/mymacros.zip The ZIP file includes a 'readme' and a Help file which explains all macros available in the set and how to use them. See my signature :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.28.4 Winamp Playing: Chris Standring - Love and Paragraphs - Love and Paragraphs (SMOOTHJAZZ.COM - The Internet's Original Smooth Jazz Radio Station - Live from the Monterey Bay) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hallo Jens, On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:18:06 +0200GMT (26-8-2008, 22:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JF> Is it possible to have a external Command executed and the Output of it JF> inserted into the Template? Would be interesting... You've been told about the %Put macro that offers the optioon to import text files into your template. You can run commands with the %Run macro, the %Run macro is available to those who've installed the MyMacros plugin. -- Groetjes, Roelof Where there's smoke, there's toast. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.28.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpE2AnLGKTJ5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
am Mittwoch, 27. August 2008 um 09:25 schrieb Geoff Lane: > To insert the text output from an external > command, use the PUT macro, in my case it's: > %PUT="c:\temp\vtitlespy.txt" Thank you, this is one step ahead, now i only miss the syntax to call the command bevor. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.28.4 & AntiSpamSniper 2.8.1.1 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
am Mittwoch, 27. August 2008 um 03:33 schrieb Thomas Fernandez: JF>> Is it possible to have a external Command executed and the Output of it JF>> inserted into the Template? Would be interesting... JF>> (i never did this) > An internal command (%Cookie=) will insert the cookie. Why would you > want to use an external command for that? This was a wrong conclusion, i did not talk about "for that", but my mind went ahead by thinking of other possiblilities, which could be nice, if this would work. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.28.4 & AntiSpamSniper 2.8.1.1 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html