Re: Recipients' Addresses Suppression

2009-06-10 Thread Chew Yoke Lim
Hello Paul

On Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:51:00 PM, you wrote:

> Hello tb...@thebat.,

> Thursday, June 11, 2009, 3:31:11 PM, you wrote:

CYL>> Hello

CYL>> Is there a method in The Bat! which allows one to send the same e-mail
CYL>> to  a group of people, but the e-mail addresses are suppressed in each
CYL>> of the e-mail received?

CYL>> I had for many years used Pegasus Mail, and it has what is known as
CYL>> distribution  lists,  in  which  one can enter e-mail addresses either
CYL>> directly or selected from the address book, but the e-mail sent out
CYL>> does not have the e-mail addresses of the recipients; it will show an
CYL>> e-mail address invented by the sender when creating the distribution
CYL>> list,  in  an  e-mail address format, e.g., recipi...@group.org, which
CYL>> address,  I  believe,  is  linked  to  the  addresses entered into the
CYL>> distribution list. 

CYL>> I have checked the help files of The Bat! but could not find anything
CYL>> pertaining to this.  Have I overlooked anything?

> Maybe I do not understand your problem clearly, but when I send to
> people without showing their email addresses, I just put them in BCC:
> blind copy instead of in To:

If  I have to send e-mail to the same group of people, such as members
of a society of which I am a member, very often, is there a way of NOT
having  to insert their addresses each time I send them an e-mail, but
pick  up  all  the addresses from a "distribution list" I only have to
create once?

I   have   not  used BCCs in The Bat!, so I don't know if by doing so,
the  recipients'  addresses  are  suppressed.   But  some other e-mail
clients, the BCCs still show up in the e-mail in the header line BCC.

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Re: Recipients' Addresses Suppression

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Berger
Hello tb...@thebat.,

Thursday, June 11, 2009, 3:31:11 PM, you wrote:

CYL> Hello

CYL> Is there a method in The Bat! which allows one to send the same e-mail
CYL> to  a group of people, but the e-mail addresses are suppressed in each
CYL> of the e-mail received?

CYL> I had for many years used Pegasus Mail, and it has what is known as
CYL> distribution  lists,  in  which  one can enter e-mail addresses either
CYL> directly or selected from the address book, but the e-mail sent out
CYL> does not have the e-mail addresses of the recipients; it will show an
CYL> e-mail address invented by the sender when creating the distribution
CYL> list,  in  an  e-mail address format, e.g., recipi...@group.org, which
CYL> address,  I  believe,  is  linked  to  the  addresses entered into the
CYL> distribution list. 

CYL> I have checked the help files of The Bat! but could not find anything
CYL> pertaining to this.  Have I overlooked anything?



Maybe I do not understand your problem clearly, but when I send to
people without showing their email addresses, I just put them in BCC:
blind copy instead of in To:


-- 



Paul

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Recipients' Addresses Suppression

2009-06-10 Thread Chew Yoke Lim
Hello

Is there a method in The Bat! which allows one to send the same e-mail
to  a group of people, but the e-mail addresses are suppressed in each
of the e-mail received?

I had for many years used Pegasus Mail, and it has what is known as
distribution  lists,  in  which  one can enter e-mail addresses either
directly or selected from the address book, but the e-mail sent out
does not have the e-mail addresses of the recipients; it will show an
e-mail address invented by the sender when creating the distribution
list,  in  an  e-mail address format, e.g., recipi...@group.org, which
address,  I  believe,  is  linked  to  the  addresses entered into the
distribution list. 

I have checked the help files of The Bat! but could not find anything
pertaining to this.  Have I overlooked anything?

-- 
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 Chew Yoke Lim  mailto:ylche...@gmail.com



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Re: TheBat 4.2

2009-06-10 Thread Leonard Berkowitz
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Paul Berger wrote:
> Hello tb...@thebat.,
>
> Thursday, June 11, 2009, 8:11:44 AM, you wrote:
>
> LB> I use TheBat 4.0 Pro (but I am not using it to create this message --
> LB> long story and not relevant to my question).
>
> LB> How do I determine whether upgrading to 4.2 is free? I have no record
> LB> of a registration code for 4.0, and I am normally very careful about
> LB> keeping a record of registation codes. I can find a serial number in
> TheBat's Help>>About. I also have a longer serial number that must be
> LB> for 3.0.
>
> LB> The download web site states, "The Bat! version 3 registration keys
> LB> purchased before November, 20, 2007 are valid for The Bat! 4.0 but not
> LB> for 4.2, according to the upgrade policy published on November 7,
> LB> 2007." The 4.0 .msi file on my computer has a date of August 25, 2008,
> LB> if that helps.
>
> LB> Thanks,
>
>
>
> I use the Home edition with the same rules. I had paid for the Version
> 3, so had to pay the upgrade when going from 4.0 to 4.1.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> -
>  Using The Bat! v4.1.11 on Windows XP
> 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
>
> ...I'm not nearly as think as you confused I am.
>
>
> 
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>

So, I guess that's about the size of it. I like TheBat very much, but
I do not like paying for upgrades.

Leonard

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Re: How to kill a zombie identity in the from field

2009-06-10 Thread tracer
Hello Tom,

Thursday, June 11, 2009, 8:21:10 AM, you wrote:


> Hello Everyone,

> I disabled one of my accounts as it received too much spam. The
> account still exists for the history but will not be used anymore for
> sending or receiving emails.
> I cannot find a way to stop the auto-suggestion to come up with my
> now deleted address on top. I went to my address book and took out the
> offending email but no luck, it still happens.
> Clicking on the from field to use the down arrows on the side and then
> going down to the offending address to delete it, does not work
> either. I believe this works in the To: field but not here.

> How else can I get rid of this remnant. At present with the account no
> longer configured to have a server address, no emails will be sent
> (which is good) but it is annoying that the account is chosen by the
> system without good reason and I have to manually override this each
> time.

Consider  the irritation for spam senders to get their own stuff back
as undelivered...

Anyway  I think to have spotted a 'preferences' setting which can be used
to add/remove accounts to track...



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Re: How to kill a zombie identity in the from field

2009-06-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tom,

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:21:10 +1000GMT (11-6-2009, 3:21 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

T> How else can I get rid of this remnant. At present with the account no
T> longer configured to have a server address, no emails will be sent
T> (which is good) but it is annoying that the account is chosen by the
T> system without good reason and I have to manually override this each
T> time.

TB  uses the From address for the selected account, the only time it's
using  something else is when you override that or when you're mailing
from a common folder.
Probably  the  default  has been selected in the account properties as
"Use this account as the default for mailto URLs"
 (Account -> Properties -> General)
Try to disable that.
You  also  might try ti configure the account to use the smtp server and
e-mail address for one of your other accounts.
The last solution would be to move all of the folders belonging to the
disposed  account to a common folder (or a folder belonging to another
account) and delete the empty account.

-- 
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I can resist everything except temptation.
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The Bat! 4.2.4
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6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

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Re: How to kill a zombie identity in the from field

2009-06-10 Thread Rick

> Hello Everyone,

> I disabled one of my accounts as it received too much spam. The
> account still exists for the history but will not be used anymore for
> sending or receiving emails.
> I cannot find a way to stop the auto-suggestion to come up with my
> now deleted address on top. I went to my address book and took out the
> offending email but no luck, it still happens.
> Clicking on the from field to use the down arrows on the side and then
> going down to the offending address to delete it, does not work
> either. I believe this works in the To: field but not here.

> How else can I get rid of this remnant. At present with the account no
> longer configured to have a server address, no emails will be sent
> (which is good) but it is annoying that the account is chosen by the
> system without good reason and I have to manually override this each
> time.

Have you gone to OPTIONS / PREFERENCES / ADDRESS HISTORY  ?

-- 
Rick
Help bring to a close, the Age of Greed

v4.2.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
Service Pack 3

 



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How to kill a zombie identity in the from field

2009-06-10 Thread Tom

Hello Everyone,

I disabled one of my accounts as it received too much spam. The
account still exists for the history but will not be used anymore for
sending or receiving emails.
I cannot find a way to stop the auto-suggestion to come up with my
now deleted address on top. I went to my address book and took out the
offending email but no luck, it still happens.
Clicking on the from field to use the down arrows on the side and then
going down to the offending address to delete it, does not work
either. I believe this works in the To: field but not here.

How else can I get rid of this remnant. At present with the account no
longer configured to have a server address, no emails will be sent
(which is good) but it is annoying that the account is chosen by the
system without good reason and I have to manually override this each
time.

-- 
Best regards,
Tom  
using TheBat! 4.0.28.3 on XP  



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Re: TheBat 4.2

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Berger
Hello tb...@thebat.,

Thursday, June 11, 2009, 8:11:44 AM, you wrote:

LB> I use TheBat 4.0 Pro (but I am not using it to create this message --
LB> long story and not relevant to my question).

LB> How do I determine whether upgrading to 4.2 is free? I have no record
LB> of a registration code for 4.0, and I am normally very careful about
LB> keeping a record of registation codes. I can find a serial number in
TheBat's Help>>About. I also have a longer serial number that must be
LB> for 3.0.

LB> The download web site states, "The Bat! version 3 registration keys
LB> purchased before November, 20, 2007 are valid for The Bat! 4.0 but not
LB> for 4.2, according to the upgrade policy published on November 7,
LB> 2007." The 4.0 .msi file on my computer has a date of August 25, 2008,
LB> if that helps.

LB> Thanks,



I use the Home edition with the same rules. I had paid for the Version
3, so had to pay the upgrade when going from 4.0 to 4.1.


-- 



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Re: TheBat 4.2

2009-06-10 Thread Leonard Berkowitz
2009/6/10 Jernej Simončič :
> On Thursday, June 11, 2009, 0:11:44, Leonard Berkowitz wrote:
>
>> How do I determine whether upgrading to 4.2 is free? I have no record
>> of a registration code for 4.0, and I am normally very careful about
>> keeping a record of registation codes. I can find a serial number in
>> TheBat's Help>About. I also have a longer serial number that must be
>> for 3.0.
>
> The long serial number is the actual code you use for registering.
> Check the date on the message with that code, if it's November 20th
> 2007 or newer, the code should work with The Bat 4.1 and newer.
>
> --
> < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ >
>
> An ounce of application is worth a ton of abstraction.
>       -- Booker's Law
>
>
> 
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Thanks for the response. The longer serial number is on an undated
piece of paper. This warning gives me pause:

"We do recommend you to download or install The Bat! 4.2 only if you
have a registration key valid for The Bat! 4.2, because this version
has got a new format of the message base indices and backup file. If
you downgrade from The Bat! 4.2 to The Bat! 4.0 or earlier version,
you will be unable to restore from a backup file made by The Bat! 4.2,
and the message base indices will be lost."



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Re: TheBat 4.2

2009-06-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Thursday, June 11, 2009, 0:11:44, Leonard Berkowitz wrote:

> How do I determine whether upgrading to 4.2 is free? I have no record
> of a registration code for 4.0, and I am normally very careful about
> keeping a record of registation codes. I can find a serial number in
> TheBat's Help>About. I also have a longer serial number that must be
> for 3.0.

The long serial number is the actual code you use for registering.
Check the date on the message with that code, if it's November 20th
2007 or newer, the code should work with The Bat 4.1 and newer.

-- 
< Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ >

An ounce of application is worth a ton of abstraction.
   -- Booker's Law



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TheBat 4.2

2009-06-10 Thread Leonard Berkowitz
I use TheBat 4.0 Pro (but I am not using it to create this message --
long story and not relevant to my question).

How do I determine whether upgrading to 4.2 is free? I have no record
of a registration code for 4.0, and I am normally very careful about
keeping a record of registation codes. I can find a serial number in
TheBat's Help>About. I also have a longer serial number that must be
for 3.0.

The download web site states, "The Bat! version 3 registration keys
purchased before November, 20, 2007 are valid for The Bat! 4.0 but not
for 4.2, according to the upgrade policy published on November 7,
2007." The 4.0 .msi file on my computer has a date of August 25, 2008,
if that helps.

Thanks,

-- 
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