I have been trying out The Bat! and it seems to have problems playing
with Outlook Express. For now, I want OE to be my default mail handler
but The Bat! seems to disable this even though I have it set not to
check and it is NOT installed as the Simple MAPI handler NOR is it
associated with
Hi Joseph,
JN When the contact's address information is already in TB!'s own address
JN book, then TB! will address and open a new message window. Nothing
JN will work until you go back to Org to clear the dialog with the two
JN choices, but that is not a big deal. If the contact has two
Hi Allie,
ACM I fixed the problem on my system (many moons ago) by going into the
ACM Internet Options and changing the default mail handler to OE. I then
ACM closed the options, reopened it and changed the default handler back
ACM to The Bat!.
My problem is the other way around. I WANT OE to
Hi Jonathan,
JA You might want to check your account preferences in TB!, there is a
JA switch that says Use as default mailto: account Try disabling that
JA on all of your accounts, then in Internet Explorer change the default
JA mail client to OE. Then try again.
Been there, done that. I
Hi Julian,
JBL SpamCop encountered errors while saving spam for processing:
JBL SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email:
I get the same errors and it doesn't matter how I send the e-mail in.
The attachment process was working just fine with SC up until a few
days ago. Now it's
Hi Julian,
JBL Quoting the spam in the message seems to work fine, using Marck's
JBL template example. This copies the original message to a Unix Mailbox
JBL File, and then inserts the contents of the file back into the message
JBL to SC.
Can you or someone send me the template example? I just
I've seen a number of people post complaints about MAPI support in TB,
me included. It is basically broken with a number of external address
books including Lotus Organizer. Does anyone know if Rit plans to
improve this?
I am currently using TB 1.60h.
Tom
Hi Marcus,
MO Does anyone know a program I can use to read this data? I do not want
MO to install Outlook on my system.
PST files are unique to Outlook and require that program
to open them. They are extremely complex. The calendar info can be
exported (using Outlook) to VCF and comma delimted
Has anyone else had to fight with TB and OE over which is the default?
Seems TB tries to unset OE from being the default every time it runs
even though I have all of those options unchecked in TB.
Tom
TB v1.60h
Current Ver: 1.60q
FAQ
Hi Carren,
CS I am sorry, can't help with your question BUT, why would you even want
CS to use OE if you have TB!? :-)
OE plays with Lotus Organizer better (aka MAPI). There are a couple of
other very minor reasons I still use it.
Tom
Is there any way of creating one trash folder that all deleted
messages from all my accounts end up in?
Current Ver: 1.60q
FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archives :
Right now, all my e-mail accounts are on the same level but I'm
thinking it would be nicer if there could be a hierarchy by ISP where
ISP1 had it's two accounts in one folder, ISP2 had them in another. I
tried setting up one account in the folder of another but all that did
was cause the original
The Bat! keeps making playing the annoying Windows stop sound
(dunk) whenever I do a check/send all mail. It seems like one or two
of the accounts are causing it but they never generate that sound when
accessed individually. What the heck causes this? There is no error
message in the FETCH.
Tom
Hi Daniel,
DG TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...
I've done that. It makes no difference. It's not a new mail sound.
It's something else. Like an error but there's no error message.
Tom
Current Ver: 1.60q
Hi Gerard,
G I believe it could be a filter deleting a (spma) msg?
I just checked all the active filters and none of them are set to play
any sound. The only filter I have that operates automatically on
receipt moves messages from the Inbox to other folders for sorting.
But the filters
Hi Julian,
JBL It was discussed in a thread during May. Try searching for the thread
JBL called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives.
I searched the thread in the archives and the only thing I could find
that might apply was a reference to changing the POP3 access timeout
(but I
Hi Julian,
JBL The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly
JBL during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower
JBL than TB's time out. You cannot adjust the timeout.
Shoot, that's it then. The stop sound on my setup is the same (for
some reason) as the
Hi Rick,
RR most stable programs I've ever used. I run it on win98 at home
RR and win2K at work and haven't had one single glitch
RR whatsoever. (Currently using 1.60q)
Boy are you lucky. Just about every other time I do a Send / Check Mail ALL, The
Bat bombs.
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Tom G.
Hi Kai,
KG annoying on newsgroups was spam which is obviously something
KG subscribers of a closed mailing list or forum hardly ever have to
KG deal with. I understand that there are several thousand newsgroups
KG out there, but I find that bascially no newsgroup I have
KG subscribed to offers
Hi Paul,
PW No thank you. I use a browser to surf, a newsreader for newsgroups
PW and The Bat! for mail. Never the twain shall meet!! /RANT
News readers and mail readers have 90% of the same features built-into
them. The only real difference are the transfer protocols and, to a
lesser extent,
Hi Thomas,
TF Some users on the German TB list are reading/writing news with TB
TF and an additional software (news2mail or so it is called). You
TF want me to find out more?
My guess is they're doing it through Hamster which seems to be the
Swiss, er uh German Army Knife of news/mail gateways.
: from bosco (lats09-154.znet.net [207.167.97.154])
by muddy.siteprotect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08710
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:55:41 -0500
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:55:24 -0700
From: Blarp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test from Becky
Hi Julian,
JBL Perhaps it is accidental -
JBL the filter might look for an ! in the x-mailer: field. Or perhaps they are
JBL sponsored by MS!
If that were the case, then it would filter out e-mails from Becky 2
(X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.08) which it apparently doesn't.
I wonder if they
What would cause this?? I've checked and rechecked my settings both
globally and account-by-account. I have 3 accounts that I've set to
check mail every 120 mails. Globally, I've allowed autodial (IOW, I have
not checked no automatical dial) and my DUNS settings are the same
as always (which is
Hi Thomas,
TF A version of ZoneAlarm under certain circumstances. Are you using ZA?
Nope. I'm using Tiny Personal Firewall (and AVG from Grisoft). This is
new behavior in TB and I don't know what's causing it.
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000
Hi Chris,
CW Mine is doing the same and I'm using Sygate firewall with AVG?
I'll try disabling AVG since I've never had any problem with TB
TPF.
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000
Current
Hi Chris,
CW Mine is doing the same and I'm using Sygate firewall with AVG?
I tried disabling the AVG and removing the plug-in. Doesn't seem to
help. More testing coming up.
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The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000
Hi Chris,
CW I've been running AVG for a while now, so not sure why it's all of a sudden
happened. It's only
CW intermittent aswell? :-(
Well it's not intermittant with me and it's definitely stopped
auto-checking altogether. I have no idea why. I tried disabling the
firewall, disabling AVG,
Well I reinstalled TB and it had no effect on periodical checking of
e-mail. It still doesn't. I've tried:
1. disabling firewall
2. disabling AVG
3. rechecked all DUNS settings
4. verified TB settings
5. unchecked, applied and rechecked TB periodical checking setting
For some reason, TB has
Hi Chris,
CW Only thing I can think, is I once checked the box 'no automatic dial on
CW periodical checking' and since then it hasn't worked. I don't even
CW have the boxed checked anymore!?
Could be. Those settings are apparently contained in account.cfg
which TB appears to open and update on
Hi Chris,
CW Is there anyway I can check this?
If you're willing to use file compare (FC) you could make a backup
copy of account.cfg, then do nothing but change the checkbox, the
immediately compare the two files (FC account.cfg account.cfg.bak /b)
and see what the differences are.
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Tom G.
Hi Adam,
A When you read messages, do you reach the scroll bar and find the
A screen all of a sudden slides to the left? It seems to do it very
A often. And have to keep my fingers near Home key. Even as I'm aware
A of how it happens, I can't seem to stop it happening though.
Ditto here. I
Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' Apply message rule
now that can run a specific rule (filter) against a selected
folder or all folders manually? The refilter action is not what I
want since it runs all manual filters too which, as I have them set up,
can be very destructive.
Hi Jonathan,
JA Can you not turn off the option to run the manual filters? I thought there was
JA a series of tick boxes, and the very bottom one was include manual filters or
JA something like that.
Sort of. It still doesn't address the problem of taking one specific
rule and being able to
Is there a function in TB similar to Outlook Express' Apply message
rule now that can run a specific rule (filter) against a selected
folder or all folders manually? The refilter action is not what I
want since it runs all filters in a category, not just a particular
one. Also, the assign to hot
Hi Thomas,
TF No, you cannot just run only one filter.
I suspected as much after going through all the menu options. Sigh.
It's a really handy feature when you've just created a rule (filter)
and want to run it against your Inbox. One of the few things Outlook
Express is better at. (FWIW, Becky
Hi Marck,
TF Found it. So you will still have to assign one hotkey for each
TF filter.
MDP Yes.
It also needs to handle it like OE. Select the filter, choose Apply Now
and up comes a list box showing folders.
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Tom G.
http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000
Does anyone else have a problem with TB and sending large file
attachments? After 400k or so of a 4mb file, my dialup connection goes
totally and completely dead. It doesn't hang up but I can't ping my
provider or do anything.
If I transfer stuff via http or ftp, my connection can be on for
Hi Thomas,
TF No such problem here. BTW I read somewhere that the SMTP protocol was
TF made for files of no more than 1 MB.
Yeah well no such problem with Outlook Express either. ;-) I'm going
to try the same trick with Becky.
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Tom G.
http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.60q -
Hi All,
I need help making a special reply template. I'm a failure at regex. :-)
I get e-mails from our ListServer and it changes the Reply-To From
headers to show the Listserver address instead of the person who sent
the e-mail. It then puts the original sender's address into the first
line
Hi St,
SMN Why is RitLabs this silent, you think?
Also from the same site...
As already noted, ADR works fine with all mail clients, but we
strongly recommend you to use it with TheBat - really cool program
which supports multiple accounts and multiple users, has fully
customizable message
Hi Jonathan,
JA He meant the mike bit in your actual email address, he is suggesting
JA it should be Mike@ instead of mike@
Or:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
Current
Hi Roelof,
RO I'm not all that familiar with Mailwasher, but there are several
RO anti-virus plug-ins for TB. What AV-program do you use?
FWIW, Mailwasher is not an AV program. It's like TB's Mail Dispatcher
on steroids. I gave up using it because its bounce feature (which
seems to make it
Hi Krister,
KE I'm beginning to get curious about this spamcop thang. Is it a service
KE you'll have to pay for?
No, it's a free reporting service although there are some things you
get with a paid account. Personally, I've never seen that reporting to
Spamcop does much. Most of the big
Hi Thomas,
TF But I think that those postmasters that act responsibly will
TF act when they receive a spam complaint, regardless of whether they
TF receive it via SpamCop or by a user.
I agree with this statement. My point was that using SpamCop does not
help reduce your personal spam level for
Hi Thomas,
TM I tried SpamEater Pro..and it works quiet fine. But only the
TM registered version allows multiple Pop checking.
SpamPal is free and does multiple POP checking.
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
Hi Luc,
L Suddenly TB! stopped checking my mail automaticly. I'm on a cable
L connection and it's on all the time.
It happened to me to, same version, same platform. Tried reinstalling
with no luck. If anyone ever figures this out, I'd sure love to know.
--
Tom G.
http://blarp.com -- Free
Hi All,
I'd like to be able to send an e-mail from a particular folder (using
that folder's templates) and have the sent e-mail copied or moved to
another particular folder. How do I do this?? AFAIK, the outgoing
e-mails will not have any particular pattern to them other than
they'll originate
Hi Thomas,
TF So, the indicator could be a string X-File or what after your sig in
TF the outgoing mail, and the X-folder filter will fully filter the
TF X-File mail to the X-folder for further follow-up.
Thanks for the idea. What I actually did was stuff a unique string
into the %Comment
Hi Lynn,
LT and any
LT who were intimidated would probably have been intimidated
LT by the software and gone to something else anyway
IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to
give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner at e-mail.
They are specifically
Hi Johnny,
JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation
JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical
JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working.
JS I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to
JS
Hi Britt,
BM Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with
BM that version.
There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've
seen (including mine).
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
Hi Ross,
RW If so, you're probably running into a nice little conflict that I
RW posted about a few days ago and gave a couple of solutions for getting
RW around the problem.
I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny
Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical
Hi Gerard,
G You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now.
No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click.
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
Current version is
Hi Gerard,
G Have a look at: Control panel | administrative tools| services.
G Check if task scheduler is started/automatic
G Same for DHCP client / DNS client.
All good so that's not it.
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http://blarp.com -- Free tech support
The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000
Hi Allie,
ACM Blarp is using Tiny Personal Firewall and not ZA.
I've also tried running without TPF active at all (disabled service,
reboot) and it has no effect on TB's periodical checking. It seems to
be something internal to TB. Since it only gets reported on XP 2000,
I wonder if there's
Hi Thomas,
TF I am using PC-Cillin. It works good, the interface is easy, it good a
TF 100% score on hackfix; the only thing I am waiting for is the TB
TF plug-in.
Does PC-Cillin itself have a command line interface? Trend's engine is
what's behind OnTrack's AV package (SystemSuite) but OnTrack
Hi Technology,
BBTE I prefer not to disable it because I
BBTE consider it a last line of defense for outbound traffic in the event
BBTE that something slips through my defenses.
Get Kerio Personal Firewall. MUCH better than ZA+. Smaller footprint
and more configurable. KPF has a few quirks of
Hi Thomas,
TF Most programs use more interfaces than just the user interfaces GUI
TF and CLI. The SDK (Software Developers Kit) of any program will tell
TF you where you can interface with the program. Forgot for the A stood
TF for, but the rest of API means Programmers' Interface.
Of course,
All,
I get a lot of HTML e-mails that have tables in them. They never look
remotely correct in TB's preview. Generally the first and second rows
look OK but anything beyond that is added to the last row as
additional columns.
I'm not interested in full-blown HTML rendering but do any of the
All,
I get a lot of HTML e-mails that have tables in them. They never look
remotely correct in TB's preview. Generally the first and second rows
look OK but anything beyond that is added to the last row as
additional columns.
I'm not interested in full-blown HTML rendering but do any of the
Hi Roelof,
RO When you send a message to one contact and he's a member of different
RO groups each with their own templates, it's impossible to predict which
RO template will be used.
That is REALLY ugly behavior. I just played around with it and it
would seem to me that group templates are
Hi Marck,
MDP What I have found is that the groups are effective in order of
MDP appearance. This may be affected by order of creation. So if you
MDP arrange your groups in an order of precedence then dual membership
MDP needn't be an issue. It works well for me.
Here's what happens:
Joe is a
Hi Rick,
RR I'd love if this procedure was made more convenient for adding
RR more than three or four people to an address field line.
I agree with all of your points. The one thing Microsoft OE is good at
is auto-complete. The Bat seems to get totally confused and/or doesn't
do what you expect
Hi Gerard,
G If you also want to use an other template you will either have to make
G the person a member of a group with NO template, which will cause the
G default account template to be used or give this person his own personal
G template.
Yeesh. It would be far simpler if TB would assign a
Hi Rick,
RR The Bat's auto-complete works great for me and does what I expect
RRas far as completion goes (actually much better IMO than
RROE since the bat shows the full e-mail address and not just the
RRname- I hate how OE does that).
Well my gripe with it is that even if the
Hi Rick,
RRAnother pet peeve (and maybe there is a way now that I haven't found
RRabout) is you should be able to enter multiple e-mail address for a
RRuser and then by doing ctrl-+ on an auto-complete for that recipient
RRit would cycle through these addresses.
Or at least dump
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