Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello Peter, I am trying to find out a simple thing, how to make a keyboard shortcut for: MARK ALL MESSAGES READ in a folder. If I cannot make a keyboard shortcut, I wouldn't mind to make an icon on the toolbar. If you have focus on the folder tree, then there is already a shortcut, Ctrl+M. Just right click on any folder and you will see it in the context menu that pops up. Now, if you want to assign a shortcut to the main menu entry 'Folder/Mark all Messages as Read', then do this: - Open Customiser - On the 'Select Container' top window, click on the down arrow at the right end and the select 'Main menu (menu bar)' and it will be displayed in the 'Current items' window on the right. - Select 'Folder' and double click on it (or click on the +) to expand it. - Now select 'Mark al Messages as Read'. - As it has no shortcut assigned, nothing will be displayed in the 'Shortcuts' window on the lower right. - On the little window beneath, it should say 'None' (I'm translating from Spanish here). Place you cursor inside this window. - Now type your desired shortcut. The actual key combination you want, not the key names. - Then click on the Assign button and then OK. That should do it and you should be able to see your shortcut when you display the Folder menu. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A further look at bug tracker
Hello MAU, | Progress report from someone please! Sorry, I can't help it Marten. Asking for a progress report, and in that tone! The more I think of it the more I laugh. What planet are you from? ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello Peter, Thanks for the guidance. It is clear and easy to follow. The only problem is that I cannot change the NONE, cannot delete it or overwrite it. Did I tell you to delete it? ;) No, because you can't. Just do as I told you: - On the little window beneath, it should say 'None' (I'm translating from Spanish here). Place you cursor inside this window. - Now type your desired shortcut. The actual key combination you want, not the key names -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, M I can even see a 'Paste formatted' option, which I don't know what it M does but the name seems to suggest something Unfortunately it doesn't paste formatted from Word but it was so easy to align all my lists with the Tab button that it only took a few minutes. Glad you have it solved. Anyway, AFAIR, no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste. But I may be wrong. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem Reconfiguring TheBat!
Hello Terry, How do I change the size of the icons on the toolbars? There might be a better/easier way that I do not know of, but try this. - View/toolbars/Customise - In the 'Select container', select 'Standard (toolbar)' - Then, below the right side window you should see 'Toolbar icons' - Using the down-arrow on the right, select 'Menu icons'. - Click OK. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, M no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste That's another useful snippet of information learnt thanks. Although why Word can't make formatting exportable I don't know. Maybe it's time to give OpenOffice a go. It is not a Word problem, you would have the same problem if you go to OpenOffice. It is a problem between _word_ processors and _text_ processors. When you copy something from a _word_ processor, that includes all the extra information that you don't see (i.e. formatting, paragraph hierarchy, fonts and sizes, colours, possible indexing info, etc.,etc.) and the word processor doesn't know (it can't) where you are going to paste that. You may want to paste it just a couple of pages away, or in another word document, or Follow me? When you paste something in a _text_ processor, how can it know where it comes from to understand its formatting, etc.? Does a text processor have to understand the special coding (formatting) done by MS Word, OpenOffice, etc.? So, all it pastes are ASCII text characters with the basic formatting that can be done with ASCII characters like space and end of line and it strips all other control and formatting characters (actually combinations) it cannot understand. That's how it more or less works :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in the copying. They may, but not always. Some times formatting done apparently with tabs is done by other means, for example paragraph indentation may be done by setting different margins for different paragraphs. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: For the record
Hello Marten, I therefore arrange for most of the incoming to be diverted to one account and then use filters to common folders to re-sort the incoming. In order to maintain professionalism I use templates when sending out from common folders. The whole thing is a complex interlocking of the excellent TB features. While 'your' bug is fixed or not ;-), there is an alternative you can use. If you look at Common folders as being the folders of an 'invisible account' (which is basically what they are), you can create an extra account which you can even call Common. In the Transport properties of this account, just include any fake or unreal server or none at all. And in the 'Options/Mailbox checking' properties, make sure that both 'Check mail-box at startup' and 'Periodical checking' options are uncheck. Also make sure that Ignore 'Check All Accounts' requests is selected (ticked). Now move your Common folders into this account, all your filters should be automagically changed/adapted and everything should work, including your templates. To be on the safe side, try with just one Common folder until you feel confident. You can always move the folder(s) out of this account to be Common folder(s) again. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: For the record
Hello Marten, I think I get your idea... but sine each common folder as I have them at the moment, has its own identity and template (i.e: they are all different) it would mean setting up 'dummy accounts' for each of them. No, you can move your full Common folder structure into the same account. Thanks for taking the time to think about it on my behalf. I didn't have to think about it, so no merit. Like Roelof, I was using 'common' folders before they were actually 'invented'. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: For the record
Hello Marten, I think I may have missed something then. Do you mean to say that a common folder inside a 'dummy account' can have its own identity and templates but that the new message template is obeyed in 3.62.14 when the common folder is inside an account? Yes, all folders (common or account), except virtual folders, can have their own templates and identities. Just try moving one of your common folders and see. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot Assign ENTER as keyboard shourcut
Hello Peter, Thank you very much. I am sometimes slow. It works. No, you're not slow. I told you Customise was not too intuitive :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: For the record
Hello Marten, Yes, all folders (common or account), except virtual folders, can have their own templates and identities. Just try moving one of your common folders and see. OK done it - tried one - it worked - transferred them all now and upgraded back to 3.62.14 so I've got my customised colour groups back etc etc. Yippee. Glad to hear that. If you've been on this list long enough, you should by now know that you owe me a beer ;-) Just for the record - the filters for incoming, as you said, still work but did have to cu and paste all 25 filters for outgoing to get the sent mail to go into the correct folder and be coloured to differentiate from incoming. But that's now done and works. Hmmm, I didn't realise you were using Outgoing filters. Were they Common Outgoing filters? If so, I think they only thing that would have been needed is the Account Sharing. I also did have to set the outgoing SMTP server to be the real one. But many thanks - I now have functionality back. So now you don't hate me anymore, do you? ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: For the record
Hello Marten, Don't you have weekends where you live? :-) That's a sore point at the moment - I'm working too much of weekends as it is and then there's children's swimming lessons, violin lessons, keyboard lessons, gym club, shopping, new bathroom, office shelves that are collapsing Hey! You'd better 'wake up' and remember that we are on this planet on a time limited trial/evaluation period. So you'd better try to get a grasp of what life is all about before the evaluation period is over. Contrary to software, you can't purchase a permanent license ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem Reconfiguring TheBat!
Hello Terry, - View/toolbars/Customise - In the 'Select container', select 'Standard (toolbar)' - Then, below the right side window you should see 'Toolbar icons' - Using the down-arrow on the right, select 'Menu icons'. - Click OK. I didn't realize it would be that much easier. It's difficult to be aware of the many features and options TB has. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Chris, That's how it more or less works : Sort of... When Word (or OpenOffice) puts something on the clipboard, it puts it one there is multiple formats. I know that Words puts it on in plain text (the clipboard default), RTF, and Word format. When another program goes to read from the clipboard, it specifies to format that it wants. SmartBat probably only asks for the plain text. So, whatever Word puts on the clipboard in plain text is what SmartBat gets. I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
Hello all, It's not a real problem, that's why I say it's tiny, but it' bothering me not being able to understand what's happening. I've always had Adobe Reader 6.0 and Adobe Acrobat 4.0 installed in my system and PDF files where always opened from everywhere with Acrobat. I believe this was because Acrobat had been installed after Reader and it had taken file associations. A few days ago I replaced Adobe Reader 6.0 with 7.0. I first uninstalled 6.0 and then installed 7.0 and, since then, PDF files are opened from everywhere (i.e. Explorer) with Adobe Reader 7.0, even when I use Acrobat Distiller and, after printing, the printed document is displayed. All fine up to here, I prefer to view PDFs with Reader 7.0 than with Acrobat 4.0 which is quite an old version. The 'tiny' problem shows up when I open a PDF attachment in TB, they always open with Acrobat 4.0. No real problem, I can view PDFs, but I just don't understand why this is happening. Does TB keep its own file type associations somewhere? I've searched the Registry and tbuser.def and couldn't find anything. Does anybody have any hint? As I have said, it's not a real problem but I'd like to understand what happening and, if possible, be able to view PDF attachments with Adobe Reader 7.0. TIA. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
Hello steverio, Maybe this utility can be useful to you and Chuck too along with what Villi posted to you on Tbbeta: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/FileExtInfo.htm Is it better than http://www3.sympatico.ca/gtopala/about_siw.html ? This is what SIW says: ,- [ ] | Property Value | Extension:.pdf | Extension ID: AcroExch.Document | Description: Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Document | Default Action: Open | Command Line: D:\Archivos de programa\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe %1 | Open with:D:\Archivos de programa\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe | Supports DDE: Yes | | Action: print | Supports DDE: Yes | | Action: printto | Supports DDE: Yes | | Open With List: AcroRd32.exe | MSPaint.exe | Acrobat.exe | iexplore.exe | thebat.exe | spoolsv.exe | PhotoshopElements.exe | thebat36214.exe | WINWORD.EXE | shimgvw.dll `- I wonder why TB is in the 'Open With List'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
Hello Chuck, The 'tiny' problem shows up when I open a PDF attachment in TB, they always open with Acrobat 4.0. No real problem, I can view PDFs, but I just don't understand why this is happening. Does TB keep its own file type associations somewhere? I've searched the Registry and tbuser.def and couldn't find anything. I have experienced the same sort of problem. I uninstalled Acrobat 5.0 and installed Reader 7.0. Now if I receive a PDF attachment the icon displays as no file association. If I double click the icon is opens normally as it is associated to Reader 7.0. Like you stated it is not a big problem but it would be nice to know what is happening here. Thanks, at least it's nice to know I'm not alone :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
Hello steverio, I wonder why TB is in the 'Open With List'. Because at some point you have selected to always use TB ( thebat36214.exe) and others from the Open With list using the Open With command...example-(right-click on registered file type .pdf). No, I can assure you I have not. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Two notes on Drafts folder BT wish and that is it all on my part
Hello all, Last night Stephan suggested the use of a VF as a 'replacement' for a real Drafts folder and I assume it was him, but I don't know, who uploaded two PNGs in BT to show 'how easy it is'. Well I have added two notes to BT that basically say: To whomever has uploaded the two PNGs 'suggesting' the use of a Virtual Folder: 1.- He hasn't stopped to think what I am proposing and why 2.- A VF is NOT an alternative to OPF. 3.- With a VF, messages to be sent and drafts will still be mixed in the same physical folder, Outbox 4.- A VF doesn't solve the issue of distinguishing drafts from messages to be sent that the user has parked for whatever reasons. The park and draft flag is the same. 5.- With a separate Drafts folder, the risk of unintentionally sending out a draft is minimised as the user has to open the draft in Editor and then Send. 6.- A VF doesn't change the fact that you can still copy/move messages to Outbox, maybe unintentionally, and even with filters and with folder Alternate Deletions and you still need the euphemistically called Outbox Protection Feature. 7.- A VF is not a solution for the so called 'average users' who may not well understand what VFs are, specially at first, and specially for novice ones who are initially annoyed because they can't find the Drafts folder everyone expects at first. 8.- If I suggest that draft messages be always initially parked in not to avoid (or minimise) the risk sending them out unintentionally but of deleting them and perhaps waste hours of work. And something I forgot when I opened this TB wish: - A real Drafts folder should allow saving the draft message without having filled the To or Subject fields (required now to save a draft in Outbox). A draft is a non finished message/document you are working on and you may not know exactly to whom you are going to send it or what you want the Subject to be. How is that solved with a VF or with the current implementation of Outbox? Finally, whoever has uploaded the PNGs, hasn't stopped to think what the words 'concept', 'logic', 'elegance', 'simplicity' and 'intuitiveness' mean. And, as the Subject says, that is all about this Drafts folder issue on my part. I don't want to further discuss with anyone to avoid perhaps getting into 'personal issues'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tiny problem opening PDF attachments
Hello steverio, I wonder why TB is in the 'Open With List'. Because at some point you have selected to always use TB ( thebat36214.exe) and others from the Open With list using the Open With command...example-(right-click on registered file type .pdf). No, I can assure you I have not. OK, It doesn't matter. Let me know if you can correct this. Last resort is that all associations for .pdf can be cleared then re-associate the correct pdf reader program again with the right path. Been there, done that and no way. TB still opens PDF with Acrobat and not with Reader. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME
Hello all, Scenario: You start a reply to any message and 'Save as draft'. What happens when you 'Save as draft': 1.- The message you are replying to is marked as Replied. Why if you have not finished your reply? 2.- If you use Replied filters (I do) they are tested and, if the conditions of any of them are met, it/they will trigger and execute the actions. Why if you have not actually replied, you are just in the process of doing so? Possible consequences: A.- If you have any VF in which one of the filter conditions is 'Attributes is not Replied', because the message that you _are_ _replying_ to is already marked as Replied it will disappear from your VF (assuming that Auto-refresh works properly, as it seems in latest versions). B.- Depending on the actions of the Replied filter(s) triggered, your original message may change Colour Group (and in turn perhaps 'disappear' from other VFs) and even be moved to a different folder. C.- If you later reopen your reply from Outbox to continue editing, the original message you were replying to may not be available in the VF you were replying from, and perhaps not even available in the original physical folder if it was moved by a filter. Which is the best way to search for it, and where, to continue with the reply? D.- If you later delete your reply either directly from Outbox or after reopening it for further edit, the original message remains marked as Replied, with possible consequences on VFs as explained in A and maybe assigned to another colour group or even moved to a different folder by a filter. Why if you have not actually replied to it? Possible solution? Easy! some may think. They can add code (protection feature?) so that when 'Saving as Draft' (to the Outbox) the original message is not marked as replied and Replied filters are not tested, so none will trigger and no actions will take place. Yes, easy but there is a Gotcha! Assume the 'easy fix' is already implemented and you save your reply (partial or not) as draft. - What happens if you later go to Outbox and remove the park/draft flag and do a Shift+F2 (Send queued mail)? Yes, your draft is sent (it doesn't matter now if it was complete or not). But your original message, the one you have _replied_ to, will never be marked as Replied and, because Replied filters will NOT be tested and perhaps triggered, some possible actions on the original message will not be taken. Why, if you have actually replied to this message and even sent the reply? However, if there were separate folders for Drafts and Outbox... I'm sure you know what I mean, don't you? Why do I come up with all of this now? Yes, believe it or not I had this experience today. I was writing a reply, got a phone call and saved my reply as draft. When I finished the call and reopened the reply to continue... where the heck is my original message?!?! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Winamp Playing: Angela Bofill - Sail Away (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have another good reason to ask for a Drafts folder, in this case also FOR ME
Hello Mary, MIguel, I believe it would be valuable for you to do a cp of the body of this post into an additional note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Let me breath, I was going to anyway :) Done. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) Winamp Playing: Yellowjackets - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply to address issue
Hello John, I have gone through every macro, including address book, accounts, folders, but cannot see where this gmail addy still exists. Is this an in memory issue with Bat!, or any clues to help me get rid of it all? Have you checked folder Identities? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.14 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Inconsistencies between 'Save' and 'Save as draft'. Bug or feature?
Hello all, The Subject of this message could also have been: 'More arguments to have a separate Drafts folder' I'll start by saying that, if it is a bug, it is a long standing one because the behaviour I'm going to describe applies not only to latest beta 3.63.14, but also to 3.62.14 and even good old 3.02.10, the three versions I have currently installed and that I can easily switch from/to. I have found this as a consequence of the testing done about the Editor 'Message/Save' (Ctrl+S) does nothing bug reported in: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5485 Let's see, when you have the Editor open, aside of the options 'Send' and 'Put in Outbox' you have a 'Save (ctrl+S)' and a 'Save as draft (Alt+F2)'. AFAIK, these the two options 'Save' and 'Save as draft' do the same: save the message in Outbox (not in Drafts folder, because there isn't one) and _Park_ it. The difference between the two options is that while 'Save as Draft' closes the editor window 'Save' keeps it open. So far so good. Before getting onto the inconsistencies, let me point out that the 'Auto-save' feature that can be set in 'Options/Preferences/Viewer editor/Editor preferences' is just an automatic and periodic way of doing a 'Save' and, of course, as it should, it also keeps the editor window open. Let's get to the inconsistencies, peculiarities or buglets. Assume you are editing a message and that you have not included yet the Subject and/or the To field: - If you do a 'Save as Draft' you are warned about a blank subject and not allowed to save a _draft_ with the To field empty. As I have said in some previous message, why can't I save a draft without the To and/or Subject if my message is not yet finished and I am not trying to send it yet? Yes, because drafts are saved in Outbox and not in a separate Drafts folder. - Now, if you instead do a 'Save' (or wait long enough for an Auto-save if you have it configured) you are not warned about an empty Subject or To field. Well, it is actually not required because your editor remains open and, sooner or later, you will either do a Send or a Save as Draft, and then you will be warned. But just you wait Mr. Higgins, just you wait, because you can also do a Message/Cancel (Esc) or click on the X on the top left. What happens then? In the case of 'Save as draft' (if you have reopened the message) and 'Auto-save' (which is supposed to be equal to Save but done automatically) you get a warning that the message you were editing has been saved and you are asked if you want to keep the saved copy (in the Outbox, of course) before closing the editor. But this is not true if you have only done a _manual_ Save, the editor is closed with no warning and the saved copy remains in Outbox. Why? Well, that is no big problem because the Saved copy (in Outbox) is actually Parked. Yes, but if you remove the Parked flag it may be sent unfinished and with an empty subject. It will never go out without a To, not because TB detects it (it will try to send it) but because it will be refused by the smpt server (I'm talking about POP although I assume it would be the same for IMAP) with a reject a message as not properly addressed. And actually, both for Save and Auto-save and also for Save as draft if you have re-opened the message, if while having the editor still open you remove the Parked flag (either intentionally or by accident) and then do a Cancel, you don't get any kind of warning and your now un-parked message (maybe unfinished or without a Subject and/or To) is in the Outbox and ready to be sent. I am fully aware that the probability of these possible 'awkward situations' occurring is minimal. Yes, but they would be absolutely zero, none, nil, nada if a separate Draft folder was used. Believe me, the more I think about it the less I can understand Stephan's opposition to implement a separate Drafts folder. I can understand a reluctance or even opposition to do it now or at least before other pending issues (i.e. fully working IMAP, which I don't use), but I can't understand a 'philosophical' or 'conceptual' opposition. I just can't. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.14 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inconsistencies between 'Save' and 'Save as draft'. Bug or feature?
Hello Mica, ...so everything needed works, and works properly, and as it is designed to. No, see for example https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5485 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: automatic read receipt stuck in out box
Hello Dwight, It shouldn't stay stuck. What happens when you open it with your editor and send it afterwards? Do you see anything awkward when you're looking at the message? they have been staying stuck here. not sure how long, and I didn't think much of it. Don't really like confirmations, and used to always say no, but I get lots of e-mail form a group I'm involved with, and one batch say it is important to them often to get confirmations, so EVERYTHING they send has a confirmation request. I've decided the only way to deal with it is to always confirm. From more than one machine if possible, so I always say yes, then I find bunches of confirmations sitting in the outbox and have to manually send them. Confirmations will not go out by themselves unless you do a 'Send queued mail' (Shift+F2). Do you mean they don't go out even with a Shift+F2? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inconsistencies between 'Save' and 'Save as draft'. Bug orfeature?
Hello Mica, Well, it indeed reads that Ctrl+S doesn't function properly (in v3.63.14) but it again has nothing with the wish for a separate Draft folder. If you think so... -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pre programmed group
Hello Roelof, G What I want to achieve is that I just fill in a name say report in the to G field and this gets expanded to the right addressees. G Can I do this as a addressbook entry, or should I create a macro shortcut? I'd go for the macro, though you could place all of them in a singles AB group and use AB group templates to address all of them whenever you send a message to a group member. The macro would give you more control, the AB group would be automated. YMMV. ,- [ From TB's current HELP: ] | If you want to write to every member of an address book group then you | can use the Mass Mailing feature. This will create a personal mail to | every member of the group. Alternatively you can type Handle list | into the address field of a message, where Handle is the handle of the | Address book group. The Bat! will resolve this at the point of sending | and will create an identical message to every member of the group. The | advantage of Mass mailing over Group mailing is that Mass mailing will | create an individual mail to every member of the group, resolving | personalising touches at the point of creation. Group mailing will not | do this. `- ,- [ From the new HELP being written: ] | You can send a message to all contacts in one group by using the group's | handle in one of the Receiver fields (To, CC, BCC). The Bat! expands all | addresses into the field when sending. Use the Mass Mailing feature for | a more personal and private approach. `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a expiry time available for chat folders content
Hello qe3ee, Is it possible to use a macro or some yet to discover function in The Bat (using 3.62.14) to handle threads in chatfolders and to remove those threads from the chatfolders whatchlist? What I'm accually after is a-best-before function when some threads hasn't been active for a while I would like them to dissappear automagicaly from the chatfolder. The only way I am aware of is to remove the threads manually. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Pre programmed group
Hello Roelof, M ,- [ From TB's current HELP: ] M ,- [ From the new HELP being written: ] Sure, but those won't work when you're replying to a message. H! Never thought about replies, I'll have to try it some time. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.15 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address headers and Subject auto-complete, history, etc.
Hello all, I haven't been paying much attention to the list lately but I don't think this has been mentioned. Have you missed the Auto-complete options that, prior to 3.64.01, were available in Options/Preferences/System? Well, as I have just learned from the note added by Stephan to BT report: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4933 you can now set Auto-Complete options for each header separately. Just go to Options/Preferences/Messages/Message Headers, select the desired header and Edit it. From what I have tested it seems to work and, as I have written in the above BT report when closing it, this new way should satisfy everybody's preferences. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview button in QT
Hello Jon, I posted on tbbeta a few days ago, but got no response. Perhaps the question belongs here. You probably didn't get any response because nobody knows the answer. What is the preview button in QT for? Mine are unavailable (greyed out). Are these not enabled yet? If so, what will they do? I don't know. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Mary, I received your message seven times. Only me? Happened here, also. Not here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris, I'm having a problem with filters since upgrading to v3. ... ... Can anyone give me some hints so I can try and work out why the filters don't seem to be working in v3? Three things: 1.- Exactly which v3 are you using? 2.- While you get your filters to work I would suggest you change your Spam filter to NOT delete messages. 3.- Can you copypaste one of your filters here in the list? To do so, in case you don't know, just select the name of one of your filters and Ctrl+C and then Ctrl+V in your reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris, 3. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [B9153070.01C60E1A.5B96D817.1622DA7A] Name: Lists Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED] IsActive Ignore IsSendQueue endFilter I don't see any problem with this filter. I think your main problem, as others have pointed out, was the fact that you had all filters set to continue processing. Anyway, using 'Sender' has always been a bit confusing for me. I prefer to use the 'Header field' condition even if I have to OR several header fields. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition Winamp Playing: Pasion Vega - Tan Poquita Cosa Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in v3
Hello Chris,
Yep, the filters seem to be working ok now. So, it was a combination
of two things I think. First was removing the tick from the 'continue
processing' option on each of the rules. Second was changing the Spam
rule from 'Sender contains {nothing}' (whic
h is what it was under in v2 before I upgraded), to 'Any Message'.
Glad to hear they are working.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition
Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate problem?
Hello Thomas, I suddenly get this error message when sending to newsgroups: !09/01/2006, 22:50:56: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Rejected. Server said: 441 437 No colon-space in Organization:E-mailaholics International header I seem to recall a similar problem years ago, but I can't remember what the actual problem and/or solution was. Sorry :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter to OPEN in v2.12
Hello rich, For the first time I have a real need to be soundly alerted when a new mssg from a particular person arrives. I set a filter to actually sound an audio alert BUT ALSO WANT TO (in the event I am not around to hear THE AUDIO ALERT) come back to the PC with the new mssg opened in it's own window. Is there a filter option in v2.12 to OPEN a designated email on arrival? I cannot find it. I have not used v2.12 for a long time but, if I recall correctly, one of the possible filter actions is to run an external program. If so, you can create a BAT file similar to this: rem rem remYou have mail rem rem pause exit and run it from your filter. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.03 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A Forward Template sans attach's
Hello Robert, virus' [virii ??] Just 'viruses'. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I test a filter?
Hello Perry, I know it is possible to test a newly created filter, but I'm not sure how. - Select a message in the message list and right click on it. - Select 'Test Filter' in your context menu and you will get the Test Filter pop-up dialog where you can select the type of filter(s) you want to test. - Click OK and you will get a pop up window telling you which filters have triggered and the actions that would have been taken if this was not a TEST. That is, the actions are not really taken. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.01 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I test a filter?
Hello Perry, As you'll note, Stuart Cuddy supplied the essential first step... Yes, I noticed that right after I sent my message :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.02 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Logs
Hello Chris, Can someone tell me where to find the filter log (re-filter mail, log option checked) in v3.64.01? Select 'Account/View log' on your main menu or Shift+Ctrl+A. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.02 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Logs
Hello Chris, Can someone tell me where to find the filter log (re-filter mail, log option checked) in v3.64.01? Select 'Account/View log' on your main menu or Shift+Ctrl+A. I've looked in there, and there is nothing about filters. All that is listed is messages sent, messages received. Clear your log before re-filtering and you will see that filter actions are logged. For example, Incoming filters include a FETCH line. I want to find out why a filter that should be working is not working, but I can't do it without some sort of log. The 'log filtering resul ts' option is ticked, but if that is where the log is, then nothing is produced. You can test filters by selecting a message in your Message List pane, right clicking on it and selecting 'Test filter'. With this, you get direct feedback of what filters are triggered and the action that would have been taken. That is, because it is just a test, actions are not actually taken. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hello Martin, - a special keyword in the memo-field: not very comfortable: I have to hit Shift-Ctrl-I for Autoview-Memo, type in the key, press the save-button and close the autoview-memo-window You are right, it is not very comfortable but it is the only solution I've found for a situation similar to yours. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hello Martin, a special keyword in the memo-field: not very comfortable: I have to hit Shift-Ctrl-I for Autoview-Memo, type in the key, press the save-button and close the autoview-memo-window You are right, it is not very comfortable but it is the only solution I've found for a situation similar to yours. Well, I now decided (and already used) Roelofs suggestion to use color groups. I did not consider the possibility that a color group can also be colorless, thus only be used as a special mark without modifying the mail's appearance in the message list (which I would not want). Yes, I also use colour (or colourless) groups and they are a good solution when a message can only belong to one category. But if a message can belong to 2 or more, there is no way to do it with groups. And the only alternative I've found for that is to use the memo. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.
Hello Bob, As a check I have accessed the offending account both via web-mail and by PocoMail, both of which report that there is no mail currently in the account. Have you tried with TB's Dispatcher? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Option allow local delivery disapeared
Hello Gerard, On my just installed latest version of TB! the option under Option-NetworkAdmin allow local delivery seems to be missing. You are right, I had not noticed it. What I don't know is if this is intentional or a bug. I'm CCing this to TBBeta to see if anyone there knows. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to mark an email in a flexible way for filtering in VF's
Hello Martin, I would wish the memo auto view would be a dockable window, just like the attachment window or a header field (the way it's displayed while composing the email), just some kind of a small area that is always available if I wish to see it, instead of a separate window You can set up a View Mode that displays the memo field as a column in the message list. I do this for example for my faxes (which are forwarded to me by email as an attachment). The subject is always the same and I use the memo to describe what each fax is. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! keeps trying to dowload deleted messages.
Hello Mica, Have you tried with TB's Dispatcher? That would be easiest and cleanest way. Fully agree. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Send mails as attachments
Hello Philippe, This does not work with a mail dragged directly from the message list (nor does it work to drag and drop to the desktop -- may be related). It works if I unmaximize my main window and simply drag from one window to the other. I think I can live with this one ;-) Or you can start dragging and then Alt+Tab to the new message window. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.65.04 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing items from Instant Address Popup menu
Hello Paul, Now there are some options in this list I would like to remove and I can't find any obvious way of doing this - does anyone know how to do this? When the drop down list opens, use the arrow keys (not the mouse) to scroll to the desired address and then hit Delete key. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing items from Instant Address Popup menu
Hello Paul, When the drop down list opens, use the arrow keys (not the mouse) to scroll to the desired address and then hit Delete key. I can't see to get this to work. The option is still there the next time I search for an address by typing into the TO: box. Does this work for you? Yes, it does. I can delete addresses from the history list with no problems. A different issue. If you are using a beta, like it seems you are, I suggest you report your problems in the TBBeta list because it could be a problem only in the beta. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
Hello Marck, This is a MIME forward aka Alternative forwarding. In this mode, TB deliberately attaches a complete copy of the original email. This is also the way AOL users forward messages. TB's difference is that it attaches the copied email to a normal forward of the message. This is less explainable. I can understand an overview of the text in the covering message for the forward, but a complete content copy plus images plus attachments? Very odd. That depends on your Forward template. If you have a nearly blank one (i.e. just with %Cursor macro) you will only send the attachment plus whatever you type. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hot Key Annoyance
Hello Robert, snipped I am not, despite being on Internet for a very long time, a speed type due to finger configuration and possibly brain configuration. You are not the only one with clumsy fingers ;-) I do NOT like that I have no control over some secretly placed hot-key. Mind you, I suspect it *could be F-11 but am not sure. I would like to be able to selectively switch-off these keys. Open the Customise window (View/Toolbars/Customise) and select Main form/Main Menu (menu bar) on the top. Once the menu is displayed on the right window (Current Items) expand the Tools option. Select the Send + Check for all entry and you will see that F11 is displayed in the shortcuts window (bottom right). Click on it and then click on Remove button. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Switching Languages
Hello Robert, How, other than a TBUDL template macro of %charset=AM, do I revert back to my preferred TB! language? Open the editor and on main menu select Spell Checker/Language/... You can also do it by right-clicking on the language that appears in the status bar at the bottom. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello all, I searched TB's Wish List and couldn't find a similar wish. So I have just logged a new one at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5648 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello Alexander, I searched TB's Wish List and couldn't find a similar wish. So I have just logged a new one at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5648 There already is a TB plugin for GD available. Programmers site (beware, very slow): http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/gd.html Alternative download locations: http://thebat.pl/files/GoogleDesktopTheBatInstaller.exe http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=visitlid=230 Yes, I was also advised about this in TBBeta were I have just written: And a very good plugin I must admit. How come I didn't know about it? I have to assume this plugin was talked about in this list or in TBUDL, where was I then? Great plugin! Thanks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin to integrate The Bat! with Google Desktop
Hello Alexander, I have to assume this plugin was talked about in this list or in TBUDL, where was I then? It was indeed talking about quite a while ago when an earlier version wasn't running for most people. :-) Just can't remember. My only neurone left seems to be on strike today ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a domain when sending the EHLO command
Hello Sean, SR Is there anyway to force TB! to use a domain along with the computer SR name, ie my compyer name is BSOD but my email server also wants a SR qualified domain, ie BSOD.tcob1.net Only way I can think of is by naming your computer bsod.tcob1.net SR Cannot use dots in a pc name :( Well, I didn't know that. But I've been thinking that it's a rather odd restriction for a mail server. Off hand I cannot think of any mail client that uses an FQDN in the EHLO message. Should be something you can configure. Cannot it is a remote server have requested it is changed :) Is your connection ADSL with a router? If so, you may be able to configure your router similarly to mine. My router (a SpeedStream 5660) allows me to enter a Domain Name and I have 'mydomain.com'. My PC is called 'maria' and when TB (or other client) connects to the mail server the EHLO (or HELO) command, which identifies the host connecting, shows as maria.maydomain.com HTH. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a domain when sending the EHLO command
Hello Sean, I changed it on my dialup pc and it seems to work :) Where exactly did you make the change? Glad it's working :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a domain when sending the EHLO command
Hello Sean, I added my domain suffix to the dialup entry in the dns bit, not sure if that made the difference but it works now :) It seems it made the difference :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: User Dictionary/Correction Dictionary Language
Hello Mark, 3.71.03 is not a release. Surprise, surprise! http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: User Dictionary/Correction Dictionary Language
Hello Thomas, Is the rumour true that it was changed (minor bug-fix) after the release and still carries the same number? Should I re-download? If the digital signature date of your *.msi file is Tuesday, 21-feb-2006 at 17:01:43, then you've got the last one. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Context menu Open reply: (how) does it work?
Hello Martin, I noticed a context menu item in the message list called open reply (in specials submenu). To me this seem to mean look for message having the mid of the current message in the reply-to header. That would be something I would really need. As far as I can recall, this option has 'always' been available in TB. However it does not seem to work as I expect: doing open reply on a message that I replied to leads to the message: Reply was not found in most appropriate folders. Would you like to search through whole message base? and subsequently to the message Reply not found. But: when I do a manual search for the mid of the message I find the message and my reply (because the mid is in the reply-to header) in the same folder. What am I doing/getting wrong here? I don't know if it uses the 'In-Reply-To header or not, I would assume so, but it is working here with no problem. I use this option somewhat frequently and, unless I have deleted my reply, it is always found. I have tried it just now a few times (in case there was a problem with latest version) and it worked every time I tried. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sort Column Shading
Hello Richard, Sorted by created. Always have been but didn't notice the wee arrow at the top! Time for new glasses? 8-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sort Column Shading
Hello Richard, M Time for new glasses? 8-) Actually you're nearer the mark than you think. Only need glasses for reading but my left eye has got a bit weaker so I shall have to book in for a check in the near future! :-) That is a sign of maturity (an euphemistic way of saying that you're getting old). ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sort Column Shading
Hello Richard, M That is a sign of maturity (an euphemistic way of saying that you're M getting old). Old is all in the mind. Maturity, yes. I can live with that but old - no way! :-) Just because the Gergorian calendar happens to tell you you're coming up to 57 years old doesn't mean to say you are old. OK, I can't cycle as fast as I used to be able to but I still do about 250k a week. Yes, I know what you mean. I'm 6 years 'maturer' than you ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Context menu Open reply: (how) does it work?
Hello Martin, I don't understand this. Tried it with all kinds of replies I wrote, and they are never found! Have a look: this is a message I just replied to, and my reply is just above in the list (both marked with red errors), and the error message that the reply cannot be found in the most obvious folders (whatever they are): http://www.aspekt1.net/ms/temp/openreply.gif I do get that error some times, but then, if I answer 'Yes', the message is found. That is what I mean when I say that my replies are found. They are, but some times after the error message and answering yes. Now I did some more tests and I found out that the message is found, when I put it back into the inbox of the account I sent if from (currently the message is in a subfolder of a common folder). So it looks like the function works, but is does not look in the right folders (even though it promises to look through the whole message base). Do you have the replies you are looking for in Common folders? If so, that may be the problem. I am not sure but I think the search for replies only looks in the account your are at, and not in other accounts or common folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems Receiving Mail with v3.71 Pro
Hello Google, Almost every time I start up TB v3.71 Pro in the morning to download my Mail, I receive an error saying that the Server is being used by another Program (which it is not) or the Server is down for maintenance (which it is not). It looks to me that those errors have nothing to do with TB, specially the 'Server is down for maintenance' one. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems Receiving Mail with v3.71 Pro
Hello Google, How much time is there between boot and starting of TB. Usually 3 to 4 minutes, because I have one Account I keep on Outlook for work, so I check that first, then go to TB. What happens if you do not check your Outlook account first? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Context menu Open reply: (how) does it work?
Hello Martin, Do you have the replies you are looking for in Common folders? If so, that may be the problem. I am not sure but I think the search for replies only looks in the account your are at, and not in other accounts or common folders. Exactly. Seems like that is the case. Then either the function is buggy or the message ...whole message base... is confusing. I think I'd open a bug report. I have just done a couple of quick test by moving my replies to other account and also to a common folder that I have just created (I don't use common folders) and the replies are found if in another account but not in common folders. So, it looks like it does not search in common folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Google desktop
Hello Jeanny, Forgive me if this has been talked about already, but does anyone know if there are plans to create a Google Desktop plugin so that it can index email files from The Bat? Marek You can downlaod it here: http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/thebat.HTML I've downloaded it, installed it, and given it time to index my messages. What do you mean by given it time to index my messages? Have you configured the plugin? If so, I would suggest that after selecting which folders you want to index, you manually do a Re-index. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching on Contacts
Hello Roelof, As far as I can see, it searches all contacts, but as I've got just one AB I can't say anything about its behaviour with multiple AB's. IT seems to work just on the AB or group selected. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym, I'm looking for a more general way (something like a sent mail filter For each %ToName, move the message into %ToName folder). That is already possible with TB, exactly what you want. I use it for my family in my MAU account. All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Alexander, All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' W... W... Wait a minute... its possible to use macros/variables there? I never knew that. Thats amazing! No one knows everything that can be done with TB, not eve RIT guys ;-) I believe it's only a few macros that can be used, but I don't remember exactly which. Certainly %ToName, %FromName, %ToAddress and %FromAdrress can, but I don't know which others, if any. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Maksym, M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' M Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I M believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you M tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist. Thank you so much! I didn't even try it that way after I tried some other macros in filters and those didn't work. But I've tried this one right now, and it works fine. Again, lots of thanks here! It's at least a big part of the solution I need. Sorry for my late reply. I've been busy and having hardware problems also. I know you would like that :) I'll try and play with other macros in the filter action. I've already tried %FolderName in the (vain) hope that if I start a reply (or a new message) from a certain folder, it will place the sent message into that folder. However, it turns out that this macro returns Outbox, i.e., whenever you start writing a message, TB! makes Outbox the current folder (even though folder focus doesn't move in the main program window). Does anybody know how to get (if it's possible) an expression to return Name of the folder where a message being replied to is stored? :) When Outgoing filters are applied the message is in the Outbox, that is why %FolderName returns Outbox. Try using %FolderName in a new message or reply template and you will see it returns the proper folder name (just the name, not the path). One thing I tries some time ago was to use the Comments header to 'save' the folder name. In my reply templates I included the line: %Comments=Foldername That part works. But then I tried to use %Comments in the filter and that didn't seem to work. Too bad :-( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB restoring under windows
Hello Alexander, Is it just me, or has someone else experienced this as well? Not that particular problem, but the TB window sometimes does indeed behave strange, ie. it stays in front or back when I put the focus to another application. I haven't watched this very close because its only been a major annoyance, and I'm not sure if its TBs problem, or the problem of the other application(s). Maybe someone else has made similar observations? Are you using XP? If so, could it be because of what is explained here: http://mycvs.org/archives/2004/11/16/applications-stealing-focus-on-windows-xp/ http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_prevent_applications_fr.htm -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?
Hello Thomas, M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName' Either this is the last filter and all other messages are caught by other filters, you will need to key in the ToNames of your family members, correct? I was just pointing out a 'generic' way of doing it. Where to put the filter may/will depend on your own filter structure. Anyway, Marek has pointed out an even better way of doing this. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AutoComplete Settings - Where?
Hello Thomas, The most unintuitive place to hide such a functionality, congratulations to Ritlabs for this achievement! They should win an award for their creative GUI, shouldn't they? I agree it is perhaps not too intuitive but, where else would you include it if you wanted to have possibility of different settings for To, CC, Subject, etc., and with possibility of separate history lists? If you recall, our (at least mine) complaint some time ago was that I wanted to have autocomplete for To but not for Subject. Like we say in Spain: It never rains to everybody's satisfaction :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font of Message Pane
Hello Marten, Would it have been too much to have the same for Backup? Hmmm... Agreed, that would make life much easier. I think it's probably worth filing a request of two for these items, unless someone has got there first! No point... I've been going on about it for eighteen months and requested it. Nada, niente, rein. Can you provide a link to the BT wish list? The more people that support it, the better. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font of Message Pane
Hello Paul, Can you provide a link to the BT wish list? The more people that support it, the better. Except in the case of a draft folder! :) Yes, you are right. It would be easier to convince Stephan to change TB's name to The Hummingbird!, or something like that, than to include a proper DRAFTS folder ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AutoComplete Settings - Where?
Hello Thomas, M I agree it is perhaps not too intuitive but, where else would you M include it if you wanted to have possibility of different settings for M To, CC, Subject, etc., and with possibility of separate history lists? Where it was before. Options / Preferences / Something easy to identify. But when they made the change they added the auto-complete possibility to many other headers. Why then repeat the list of headers in a different place? M If you recall, our (at least mine) complaint some time ago was that I M wanted to have autocomplete for To but not for Subject. Like we say in M Spain: It never rains to everybody's satisfaction :) I remember that complaint, and I would have thought they would just add Subject to the list. Why not Options / Preferences / Autocomplete? Don't ask me ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Font of Message Pane
Hello Marten, Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 1:51:33 PM, you wrote: Can you provide a link to the BT wish list? The more people that support it, the better. Except in the case of a draft folder! :) Seriously though I'd support the request. Somebidy remind me he URL for the wish list and I'll try and dig my wish out for an(other) airing. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AutoComplete Settings - Where?
Hello Paul, But when they made the change they added the auto-complete possibility to many other headers. Why then repeat the list of headers in a different place? It is common practice in many programs to have access to the same options/functionality from several different places. This makes it easier for us the users to find what they want. You are right. When you are reading this message please do something. On the headers pane, right click on any of the headers (on the header name, not in the contents of it) and on the context menu that pops up select Headers/Edit headers. You can do the same when you are composing a message in editor. Is this what you mean? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AutoComplete Settings - Where?
Hello MAU, (on the header name, not in the contents of it) I've just noticed it work the same on any part of the header pane. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default language for spell checking not setin replies?!
Hello Cory, Although sometimes (!) the status bar display English, no language is ticked when I click on English (or on the tiny space to the right of the SpellCheck icon when no langage is displayed there). There no similar issue in the BugTrack, so I assume it's something local with me... :-\ Anyone ideas? Thanks! It works fine here with v3.71.03, but I seem to recall that problem in some 'old' version. It looks like you are using v3.65.03, why don't you upgrade to v3.71.03 (the latest release)? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.71.03 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual folder bug?
Hello Larry, I have a virtual folder se tup to read 3 accounts. Occasionally I see a message in one of the actual accounts but not in the virtual. However when I exit and then go back into TB it shows up in the virtual folder. Is this a bug or known issue? I don't know if if this is related to your problem, but this 'old' bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4722 has recently been reported as fixed in Beta 3.72.02. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Content dependent on subject contents through macro
Hello Marten, snipped What would be handy is to have the body completed automatically if the subject ends with space-spaceeom Can that be done? I don't think so but, why don't you do it the other way around? That is, type something in the body and complete the subject and body from it. I use that a lot. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Content dependent on subject contents through macro
Hello Marten, Sorry for my late reply. type something in the body and complete the subject and body from it. I use that a lot. Hmmm that sounds possible - not perfect bit possible - so the next question is how to do that? I guess the macro called by the eom handle sets the subject - can I type a line in the body and then that line gets pulled out and put in the subject by the macro? I don't think you can transfer a line from the body to the subject, at least I don't know how to do it. However, I found out something that may be of help. If you assign a keyboard shortcut to a QT, the QT will be executed if you key the shortcut while the cursor is in the subject line. That is, you could type the subject and then hit the shortcut. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Content dependent on subject contents through macro
Hello Chris, I don't think you can transfer a line from the body to the subject, at least I don't know how to do it. Look at the %CLIPBOARD macro. You have to manually copy the line (I think), but then you can do all sorts of cool stuff with that line. I'm aware about %CLIPBOARD macro, but I think that is not what Marten is looking for. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[SOT] Anyone familiar with Google Desktop plugin for The Bat?
Hello all, Just downloaded the plugin from http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/ a few weeks ago and started using it recently. It works fine but there is something I don't understand. If I do a 'Re-Index selected, at the end of the process I get a 'report' of number of messages 'Indexed' and 'Skipped'. I am assuming that 'Skipped' means not indexed, although I don't know or understand why they are skipped. And what actually worries me is that the few times I have done a re-index, the number of skipped messages is larger than the indexed one. Any hint/help would be appreciated. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SOT] Anyone familiar with Google Desktop plugin for The Bat?
Hello Chris, If I do a 'Re-Index selected, at the end of the process I get a 'report' of number of messages 'Indexed' and 'Skipped'. I am assuming that 'Skipped' means not indexed, although I don't know or understand why they are skipped. And what actually worries me is that the few times I have done a re-index, the number of skipped messages is larger than the indexed one. I think that they are skipped because they are already in the index. I don't think it can be so because I have seen this when starting from scratch (i.e. after installing both Desktop and the plugin). Unless something is not working properly, of course. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply-To problem
Hello Robert, No matter what I've tried, in the specific list's folder, the reply to, upon checking again, has reverted to the From information. Have you set the Reply-To in the Identity of the folder properties? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting background color
Hello Larry, In my header list the column that the header info is sorted on has the background in a color and I'd like to change the color (or not have the color at all) but can't figure out how to make the changes. This issue was discussed in this list about 1 month ago. See: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg89743.html -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Remind later
Hello Paul, As you know, I'm now trying to use TB! as my corporate email client when I am away from the office using IMAP. Now occasionally I want to be able to remind myself to respond to an email or action it's contents in an hour or two. I've tried using the Remind Later feature however as far as I can tell the smallest unit of time I can use is tomorrow! Is there something I'm missing here, is it possible to set a reminder for a few minutes or a few hours? You can set it for 'tomorrow' and then open Tools/Scheduler and edit the date and time of the event. It works, although it is just a workaround. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Remind later
Hello Mark, M You can set it for 'tomorrow' and then open Tools/Scheduler and edit the M date and time of the event. It works, although it is just a workaround. Tried that with this message. Instead of 1 hour later, I was only reminded when I restarted the computer... ??! It did work for me when I tested it yesterday. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons in Tooolbar
Hello Peter, However it shows only the text (Mark all Messages Read), which is lengthy and need lots of space. Is there a way to place an icon instead? The possibility of assigning icons has just been introduced in the latest Beta (3.72.05) today. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.05 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Icons in Tooolbar
Hello Peter, MAU The possibility of assigning icons has just been introduced in the latest MAU Beta (3.72.05) today. Thanks, good news. When will be available for outsiders like me, would you have an idea? I have no idea what Ritlabs plans are in regards to a new release version, I assume it should be soon. But if you are willing to use a Beta, with the risks that always implies, you may sign up here: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.05 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to rethread a message?
Hello Costas, While moving the mouse pointer in the message list window, a popup came up asking me if I wanted to rethread the message. I clikced on the Cancel button and dismissed the popup. I don't know what may have caused it to appear in the first place, but my question is, where do I find this option/command in the menus? I looked for it, but I couldn't see it anywhere. These options are not in the menus. On the Message List pane, left click on a message and drag it to the message you want to thread it to. To unthread a message, shift+click and drag the message 'outside the thread'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.72.05 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
