Re[3]: Mail Server
Hello Pete, PM Would I have to have a mail server program installed to do what I want PM instead of using TB!? You could use TB and BatPost together to achieve your server. I'm using BatPost right now to send this message, and it's not even installed on my machine. I've got it installed on a friend's server 300 miles away (I use it to get around a port 25 block --I just set it for port 26!). :) The biggest problem I've had is simply figuring out how to keep it up and running. If my friend's server gets rebooted, I have to manually log on to the system (remotely) and fire up BP (and then start it). I'd dearly love to figure out how to make it do everything automatically, but haven't found a way yet. Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Server
Hello Allie, ACM Why not create an shortcut in the programs/startup menu? Is there no ACM CLI parameter to 'start' it up? If not, you could install PowerPro on ACM your friends server and then use a macro that is executed on the ACM machines startup. It would fire up the batpost and then 'start' it. :) I must admit my ignorance for Windows NT. I'm learning as I go, but so far there appears to be no way to add the program as a service so it starts with the system. The server is set up so there are 'desktops' for various users, with each of us remoting in via a Terminal Services Client. Some programs install themselves as services, such as Argo's mail server, but neither I nor my friend can find a way to do it manually. Even if we could find an area to autorun the program (each desktop has it's own Startup folder that executes with the individual's log-in) when the system starts, the program also needs to be started after it's already been activated. In other words, when you run it, it's sits idle until told to begin monitoring for mail. I do find it ironic, in an almost humorous way, that the traditional hard part was overcome easily (setup config), and the program functions well, but the normally easy thing (getting the darned thing to start by itself) is the problem area. I'll laugh later... :) One other interesting point. I installed another mail server (Argo, as mentioned) as the primary, and am using BatPost as my private smtp engine to get around a port 25 block, so having BP start with my desktop (so no one else could see it) would be fine with me. However, we also haven't found a way to get a desktop to autostart with the system. They only seem to be able to start when someone logs in. And even *then* I'm still facing the program's secondary activation, which it apparently needs to have done manually. I could, of course, locate another server program, but I really do like several factors of BP. First, it's by Ritlabs, secondly it's really small, but fully-functional, and finally, I can turn off pop scanning and use it strictly as an smtp engine. Ideal for my purposes. I'm gonna tough this one out if it kills me! :) Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
BatPost
Hello tbudl, Since BatPost has no manual or visible support, I've started a mailing list specifically for those of us trying to use it, so we can compare notes, share advice, etc. It can be found at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BatPost/ I've got the engine running on an NT server via remote access (Terminal Services Client) and could really use some help/advice with a few things. Can't figure out how to get it to auto-start or install as a Service, I keep having to remote in and start my desktop to fire up the program. Looking forward to talking with other BatPost users. :) Best regards, Kurgan Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: BatPost
Hello Thomas, Sorry, no matches were found for BatPost. Must have been a glitch; I just looked and the link is still working. :) (Either that or the search engines simply hadn't refreshed yet.) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BatPost/ Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hello Sudip,
SP Things are not that self-explanatory. You still have to change your
SP TB! settings to route the incoming mails through NAV's POPROXY module.
SP See my message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I never once had to do that. I only turned on email scanning in NAV
and it worked. Never had to do anything to TB. (I'm referring to
NAV 2001 and prior.) 2002 is even simpler than that. Love it. :)
SP Why does it get annoying? If you mean the dialog box that pop's up on
SP outbound mail scanning, there's an option, in later builds, to turn it
SP off.
Yep, that's what I was suggesting he do. Scanning outbound mail is,
to me, redundant, assuming NAV is doing its job in the first place,
and that stupid splash/banner (which cannot be turned off if the
outbound scanning is on) drives me crazy (I get/send a lot of
email).
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Re[2]: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hello Sudip, SP I find that incredulous ! AFAIK, NAV 2001 configures OE and Eudora SP automatically but not others, certainly not TB!. Are you sure, your SP mails were(are) being routed through POPROXY? It's NAV 2002 that scans SP the default POP and SMTP ports, thereby eliminating the need to SP configure a MUA. Yes. All I did, and this is on multiple installs, so I know it's not just a glitch, was tell NAV 2000/2001 that I was using other email client. I never had to do anything to TB. And now with 2002 it does it automatically. I am very pleased with 2002's integration. Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat
Hello Mauricio, mdn How do I make NAV 2001 works with TheBat ??? Open Nav and go to Options and look for Email. It's all right there in order, and self-explanatory. :) You don't have to specify The Bat!, just turn on email scanning. If I remember correctly, you simply tell it something like other client or something like that. However, I highly suggest upgrading to Nav 2002. As of 2002 it pretty much does it all for you, and you don't have to configure it at all, it just 'sees' incoming email, regardless of client. Very cool. (You might want to turn off the outbound mail scan, though -- that can get really annoying.) Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Tiny Web
Hello Marck, MDP Please can this topic (and the one about immigration and mobile MDP phones) be taken to TBOT? Could you give details for TBOT, please? Never heard of it. Also, if it would help, and if it doesn't conflict with any already-established, resident lists of the same nature, I have a mailing list for discussion, criticism, reviews, and comparisons of software, new and old, over on Yahoo Groups (groupname is SoftChat). Please feel free to make use of the list for anything considered OT here. Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: ROT13 support
Hello Thomas, TF V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? V'z n Ebg13 arjovr, naq V'ir tbg vg! Jubbubb! Guvf pregnvayl pbhyq or sha. V jvfu vg pbhyq or cyhttrq-va gb Gur Ong! Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Oh...WOW!
Hello tbudl, Ok, about a zillion years ago I was in here complaining about wanting built-in smtp for TB. Tonight I had a straggler email come in from Ritlabs that was apparently sent a while ago, because it was announcing a new version of TB, and I already had it. However, when I went to look, I spotted something on the front page, which is weird because I normally never just go to the root, I always go to /the_bat. So what do I see? BatPost Oh, please tell me this thing plugs in smoothly for use with TB. That will totally make my day! Man, if TB finally allows for full html somewhere down the line, and if this smtp works, I'll be grinning for weeks. Best regards, Kurgan Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
BatPost
Hello tbudl, Ah! The instructions are in another language. Can anyone tell me how to set this thing up, or if there are English instructions? It looks like it needs a domain entered. Does that mean my IP? Help! Best regards, Kurgan Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[4]: New HTML engine?
Hello Mitja, MP BTW: I solved most if not all of the virus problem by filtering mail MP and looking for: MP _*name=*.vbs MP _*name=*.scr MP _*name=*.pif MP _*name=*.bat MP *Content-type: audio/x-wav; name=*.exe* MP *Content-type: audio/x-midi; name=*.exe* MP Although this filter could be a problem if someone is actually MP receiving this types (.vbs ...) normally (I do not). I get all of those type, filter nothing, and Norton always catches anything trying to piggyback on them. I've never gotten a virus since I started using these programs several years ago, and I don't filter out anything. I've also never had an intrusion since ZAP was installed. Together I think they're virtually the perfect combination, and I love the fact that they both support The Bat! Best regards, Kurganmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
FULL HTML: The Bottom Line
Hello tbudl, Allow me to sum it all up and offer the obvious solution. Lots of people don't want it. Lots do. Some have spoken about being able to click individual images and accept or deny them. From both the marketing standpoint, as well as that of an end-user and long-time computer junkie, might I simply suggest that the capability for FULL HTML be available as an option for those customers wishing to have an alternative to Outlook or Incredimail, but not making it either default or mandatory? In other words, Hey customers, here's your copy of The Bat! If you really want to have full html, flip this switch here. We do, however stand behind the innate security of The Bat! if you don't. Use at your own risk. To which I would say, Friggin cool! and would turn it on for a few accounts that are geared towards that sort of mail, but leave it off for most of my accounts. By the by, I tend to support software and organizations that do a good job and keep me running happy for years on end, and I can't count the number of people I've gotten hooked on The Bat! over the years, so it's only fair I reciprocate a bit. If you're looking for a quality email service, one which I am a paid user of and can share my own experience of getting good service with, allow me to suggest fastmail.fm. Great service, low price including free accounts), and no, they don't pay me to say that. :) I'm just a pleased customer sharing a good service with other email enthusiasts. Oh yeah, and Opera is the best browser! :) Best regards, Kurgan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: New HTML engine?
JA Guess I need to give an example... Take... erm... SubSeven. Has a JA small program that 'encapsulates' files... Run it onto a .jpg file it JA increases the .jpg file by maybe 300kb... file extension is *still* JA .jpg (no hidden extensions, or anything like that), and the file is JA now executable, and causes infection with the subseven trojan. Well, however it all works, or doesn't as the case may be, I can at least say this. I've gotten tons of trojans and viruses sent to me via email, and not a single one infected my system. I don't think they could have really gotten past TB with it made the way it is, but it never even got that far. Between Norton and ZAP, they both monitor and nail anything that even comes close to my system. I don't even have to think about it, they just automatically quarantine the stuff. I think TB could handle more features without becoming too much of a security risk. Hell, I also keep a copy of, God help me for admitting this, Incredimail on my system! Yeah, In know, it's wide open for attack by its nature, but still nothing gets through. I even get confused when people on mailing lists start talking about 'that darned virus' because I'd never noticed anything had happened. Oh, and I use Incredimail for the fun stuff it can do, in case you were wondering about my mental health. :) Hey, it *does* have some pretty nifty features. Best regards, Kurganmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: spaces in mailbox names converted to underlines
Hello Tracer, Jonathan may be right, but there is another thing that might be causing you trouble. When you placed your installation of TB on the cd, was it direct, or did you zip it all up first? You've got to zip the entire folder up before transferring, or else you will have to manually go through the copied folder (once it's back on the new hard drive) and change everything back to having no 'read only' attribute, which happens when you put the stuff on cd. If your mail isn't coming into the new mailboxes, make sure to check that they are not set now as read only, or else no new messages can be added to the files. I did this once, and felt really stupid when I finally figured out what I'd done. :) Best regards, Kurganmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
New HTML engine?
Hello tbudl, I saw that a new HTML engine is listed as being part of the new version, but I just tried it and nothing seems different, at least it's not doing what a typical html engine would. Is this lack of function still intentional (I'm assuming for security reasons) or am I missing some setting? I've been waiting for ages for it to finally work so I can see inline images, etc. Between ZoneAlarm and Norton A/V 2002, I'm not worried about anything harmful getting in. It'd be nice if we at least had the option to turn on full html, unless it's already there and I've missed it. Best regards, Kurgan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
