Synchronization revisited (gmail/imap/pop)

2008-04-11 Thread Achdut18
For those who have been following this thread, in a post that I just sent, I 
concluded that where two users are involved, the best synchronization solution 
appeared to me to be that I should allow mail to remain on the server for a 
period of time, perform separate downloads on each computer, and BCC to myself 
every piece of outgoing mail.

Unfortunately, I have just discovered that while this works for the servers on 
which I have non-gmail accounts, this is not working with my g-mail accounts.  
Even though I have set account properties in The Bat on BOTH computers to leave 
mail on the server for 14 days, the first computer to download from the gmail 
server, is the one that gets the mail since the last download by either of the 
two computers. The second computer to download will only pick up newer mail, 
and not the mail downloaded by the first computer. I checked my gmail settings 
and discovered that I have IMAP enabled for each of my g-mail accounts and 
nothing is checked in the POP download section of the settings area.  Since I 
only keep listserv mail in gmail, I never want that mail deleted from the gmail 
servers.  So, how should I configure those settings so that The Bat will be 
able to download the mail to both computers?

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Re: Synchronization revisited (gmail/imap/pop)

2008-04-11 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Achdut18,
  A reminder of what Achdut18 typed on:
  Friday, April 11, 2008 at 12:54:10 GMT -0500

A Unfortunately, I have just discovered that while this works for the servers
A on which I have non-gmail accounts, this is not working with my g-mail
A accounts.  Even though I have set account properties in The Bat on BOTH
A computers to leave mail on the server for 14 days, the first computer to
A download from the gmail server, is the one that gets the mail since the last
A download by either of the two computers. The second computer to download will
A only pick up newer mail, and not the mail downloaded by the first computer. I
A checked my gmail settings and discovered that I have IMAP enabled for each of
A my g-mail accounts and nothing is checked in the POP download section of the
A settings area.  Since I only keep listserv mail in gmail, I never want that
A mail deleted from the gmail servers.  So, how should I configure those
A settings so that The Bat will be able to download the mail to both computers?

You need to recreate those accounts in The Bat as IMAP accounts. Then you can 
do 
what is the best way to go anyway. IMAP rules. (When it works right). :)

Note also Dwights reply that you don't need to keep all you files on the IMAP 
account. You can download to your hard drive and archive them, then delete them 
off the IMAP server. BTW, I actually find that The Bat's IMAP seems to work 
best 
for me with my Gmail account.

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Re: Fwd: Synchronization revisited (gmail/imap/pop)

2008-04-11 Thread Achdut18
Hi, Stuart,


From: Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On  Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:04 PM Stuart Cuddy wrote:

 A reminder of what Achdut18 typed on:
 Friday, April 11, 2008 at 12:54:10 GMT -0500

A Even though I have set account properties in The Bat on BOTH
A computers to leave mail on the server for 14 days, the first computer to
A download from the gmail server, is the one that gets the mail since the last
A download by either of the two computers. The second computer to download will
A only pick up newer mail, and not the mail downloaded by the first computer. I
A checked my gmail settings and discovered that I have IMAP enabled for each of
A my g-mail accounts and nothing is checked in the POP download section of the
A settings area.  Since I only keep listserv mail in gmail, I never want that
A mail deleted from the gmail servers.  So, how should I configure those
A settings so that The Bat will be able to download the mail to both computers?

You need to recreate those accounts in The Bat as IMAP accounts. Then you can do
what is the best way to go anyway. IMAP rules. (When it works right). :)


OK.  I just tried to reset the protocol for this acccount from POP3 to IMAP4. 
However, the Bat produced an error message that said:  Cannot change protocol 
to IMAP4. Create a new account instead.

Well, I don't want to create a new account. This account is subscribed to over 
a half a dozen listservs.  If I have to change the account, that means 
rejoining each of these listervs, changing filters, etc. Is there an easier way 
to do this?




Note also Dwights reply that you don't need to keep all you files on the IMAP
account. You can download to your hard drive and archive them, then delete them
off the IMAP server. BTW, I actually find that The Bat's IMAP seems to work best
for me with my Gmail account.


OK.  I am not understanding something.  I thought the whole point of IMAP was 
that you LEFT mail on the server so that it was accessible to multiple 
computers.  Besides, I want to be able to access this mail via a web browser 
when I am not tethered to one of my computers.


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Re: Synchronization revisited (gmail/imap/pop)

2008-04-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Achdut18,

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:54:10 -0500 GMT (12/04/2008, 00:54 +0700 GMT),
Achdut18 wrote:

A Unfortunately, I have just discovered that while this works for
A the servers on which I have non-gmail accounts, this is not working
A with my g-mail accounts.  Even though I have set account properties
A in The Bat on BOTH computers to leave mail on the server for 14
A days, the first computer to download from the gmail server, is the
A one that gets the mail since the last download by either of the two
A computers. The second computer to download will only pick up newer
A mail, and not the mail downloaded by the first computer. I checked
A my gmail settings and discovered that I have IMAP enabled for each
A of my g-mail accounts and nothing is checked in the POP download
A section of the settings area.  Since I only keep listserv mail in
A gmail, I never want that mail deleted from the gmail servers.  So,
A how should I configure those settings so that The Bat will be able
A to download the mail to both computers?

Gmail's POP is something else. There might be a switch somewhere in
the POP setttings, check it out. Otherwise, I suggest to use a
provider that uses standard POP.

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kleiner.
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Re: Synchronization revisited (gmail/imap/pop)

2008-04-11 Thread Robin Anson
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 at 14:39:46 -0500, Achdut18 wrote: OK.  I just tried to 
reset the protocol for this acccount from POP3
 to IMAP4. However, the Bat produced an error message that said: 
 Cannot change protocol to IMAP4. Create a new account instead.

 Well, I don't want to create a new account. This account is
 subscribed to over a half a dozen listservs.  If I have to change
 the account, that means rejoining each of these listervs, changing
 filters, etc. Is there an easier way to do this?

You don't need to change your listserv because your email address
remains the same. It's just that you create a new account in TB! to
access the email.

You will need to modify your filters though.

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