Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-13 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MFPA,

Friday, September 13, 2019, 4:16:03 AM, you wrote:

> Immediately after deleting several messages one at a time, I would
> expect Ctrl+Z to restore the last one deleted, then another Ctrl+Z to
> restore the previous one deleted, and so on until no further actions
> are stored to undo.

Telepathy in action; exactly my thoughts.



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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-12 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Thursday 12 September 2019 at 5:58:43 PM, in
, MAU wrote:-


> Right,  but  Ctrl+Z  is  actually and generally an
> "Undo" last action.
> What  if you delete several messages and after a few
> minutes, or hours
> or  days,  you  realize you erroneously deleted
> one/some of them. What
> should  Ctrl+Z do then? 

I can't answer for Andrew but immediately after selecting several
messages at once and deleting them together, I would expect Ctrl+Z to
restore them all.

Immediately after deleting several messages one at a time, I would
expect Ctrl+Z to restore the last one deleted, then another Ctrl+Z to
restore the previous one deleted, and so on until no further actions
are stored to undo.


> But, even after a restart,
> you can browse your
> deleted messages and select the one(s) you want to
> undelete.  

Depending on your "Compact folders on exit" and "empty trash folder on 
exit" settings.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-12 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew,

>> The browse deleted messages and undelete function is neat. But not so 
>> intuitive as a simple CTRL+Z.
>
> Precisely!

Right,  but  Ctrl+Z  is  actually and generally an "Undo" last action.
What  if you delete several messages and after a few minutes, or hours
or  days,  you  realize you erroneously deleted one/some of them. What
should  Ctrl+Z do then? But, even after a restart, you can browse your
deleted messages and select the one(s) you want to undelete.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-12 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MFPA,

Thursday, September 12, 2019, 3:59:15 AM, you wrote:

> The browse deleted messages and undelete function is neat. But not so 
> intuitive as a simple CTRL+Z.

Precisely!



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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:25:21 +0200 GMT (11-Sep-19, 16:25 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>> They are also copied to trash, so you can find them there.

> Well,  yes  and no. Or not always. I just remembered that you can have
> different  deletion  options in each Folder Properties if for Deletion
> you  select  "Use  folder-specific deletion settings" . In my case, in
> the  folder I checked, for Normal deletion I have "Mark as deleted, do
> not use the Trash folder". TB has s many options! ;-)

Right. I was referring to the standard setting, not knowing how
familiar the OP is with the many optopns.

> Anyway,   I   have   checked   a   folder  that  does  not  have  "Use
> folder-specific  deletion  settings" ticked. If I delete a message, it
> is  certainly  copied  to  the  Trash  folder.  But wait, if I "Browse
> deleted  messages"  I can see the message with the strike-though line,
> and  if  I  do  'Undelete'  it, the line is removed, the message is no
> longer  'marked for deletion', it is shown normally in the folder, BUT
> it is NOT removed from the Trash folder.

I don't have a problem with that.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-11 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Tuesday 10 September 2019 at 11:44:01 AM, in
, Andrew Savchenko wrote:-


> Hi,

> Is that something weird on my end or TheBat! does not
> support CTRL+Z 
> for deleted messages?


The browse deleted messages and undelete function is neat. But not so 
intuitive as a simple CTRL+Z.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-11 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew,

> Interesting, didn't know such function exists. Executed on "Inbox"
> with a multitude of subfolders, it shows messages from the root _and_
> all child nodes. Is it possible to restrict it to currently selected 
> folder only?

No.  The  "Browse  deleted messages" will show deleted messages in any
folder that has any deleted messages. If that is what you are asking.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-11 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello MAU,

Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 1:28:03 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Andrew,

>> CTRL-Z is a mnemonic for "Undo". I was expecting that it would undo 
>> the deletion and move message back to where it was.

> And it works as such when you are in the Editor window.

> When  you  delete  a  message,  at least with POP accounts (don't know
> about  IMAP)  it  is actually just "marked for deletion" and it is not
> moved to Trash. When you delete messages in a folder, you can actually
> see  them  if   you  select "Folder/Browse deleted messages" from the
> main  menu. Then, deleted messages (marked for deletion) are displayed
> with  a  "strike  through"  line.  You can then select any of them and
> click 'Undelete' from the right click context menu.

Interesting, didn't know such function exists. Executed on "Inbox"
with a multitude of subfolders, it shows messages from the root _and_
all child nodes. Is it possible to restrict it to currently selected 
folder only?

I use POP3 if it matters.


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A



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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-11 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

> They are also copied to trash, so you can find them there.

Well,  yes  and no. Or not always. I just remembered that you can have
different  deletion  options in each Folder Properties if for Deletion
you  select  "Use  folder-specific deletion settings" . In my case, in
the  folder I checked, for Normal deletion I have "Mark as deleted, do
not use the Trash folder". TB has s many options! ;-)

Anyway,   I   have   checked   a   folder  that  does  not  have  "Use
folder-specific  deletion  settings" ticked. If I delete a message, it
is  certainly  copied  to  the  Trash  folder.  But wait, if I "Browse
deleted  messages"  I can see the message with the strike-though line,
and  if  I  do  'Undelete'  it, the line is removed, the message is no
longer  'marked for deletion', it is shown normally in the folder, BUT
it is NOT removed from the Trash folder.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 17:58:03 +0200 GMT (10-Sep-19, 22:58 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Andrew,

>> CTRL-Z is a mnemonic for "Undo". I was expecting that it would undo
>> the deletion and move message back to where it was.

> And it works as such when you are in the Editor window.

> When  you  delete  a  message,  at least with POP accounts (don't know
> about  IMAP)  it  is actually just "marked for deletion" and it is not
> moved to Trash. When you delete messages in a folder, you can actually
> see  them  if   you  select "Folder/Browse deleted messages" from the
> main  menu. Then, deleted messages (marked for deletion) are displayed
> with  a  "strike  through"  line.  You can then select any of them and
> click 'Undelete' from the right click context menu.

They are also copied to trash, so you can find them there. I thought
that's what he meant.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew,

> CTRL-Z is a mnemonic for "Undo". I was expecting that it would undo 
> the deletion and move message back to where it was.

And it works as such when you are in the Editor window.

When  you  delete  a  message,  at least with POP accounts (don't know
about  IMAP)  it  is actually just "marked for deletion" and it is not
moved to Trash. When you delete messages in a folder, you can actually
see  them  if   you  select "Folder/Browse deleted messages" from the
main  menu. Then, deleted messages (marked for deletion) are displayed
with  a  "strike  through"  line.  You can then select any of them and
click 'Undelete' from the right click context menu.

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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hello Thomas,

Tuesday, September 10, 2019, 8:19:15 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Andrew,

> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:14:01 +0930 GMT (10-Sep-19, 17:44 +0700 GMT),
> Andrew Savchenko wrote:

>> Hi,

>> Is that something weird on my end or TheBat! does not support CTRL+Z
>> for deleted messages?.. Deleted as moved into "Trash", not wiped.

> I use the DEL key for that. Only one key instead of a key-combo.

CTRL-Z is a mnemonic for "Undo". I was expecting that it would undo 
the deletion and move message back to where it was.



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Re: CTRL+Z

2019-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Andrew,

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:14:01 +0930 GMT (10-Sep-19, 17:44 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:

> Hi,

> Is that something weird on my end or TheBat! does not support CTRL+Z
> for deleted messages?.. Deleted as moved into "Trash", not wiped.

I use the DEL key for that. Only one key instead of a key-combo.

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CTRL+Z

2019-09-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi,

Is that something weird on my end or TheBat! does not support CTRL+Z 
for deleted messages?.. Deleted as moved into "Trash", not wiped.


Thanks.



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