Re: Reply, address history and the address book
On Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 2:03:31 PM, Jim Kyle (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > Here it is: > ABnnnPPPInserts a field from the address book. > "nnn" determines the address used, "PPP" is the address book field to > be used. Thank you very much. Now that I see what you sent, I have found this in the list of Macros in the current Help facility. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 10:34:22 AM, you wrote: > Would it be a lot of bother for you to copy the ABnnnPPP section from > your helpfile and pass it along to me? Now that I am using this > obsolete-but-still-supported Macro, it will be helpful to know about > these two constants. Here it is: ABnnnPPPInserts a field from the address book. "nnn" determines the address used, "PPP" is the address book field to be used. Values for nnn: TO Address Book entry for the TO header (current message) FROMAddress Book entry for the FROM header (current message) REPLYAddress Book entry for the REPLY-TO header (current message) OTOAddress Book entry for the TO header (original message) OFROM Address Book entry for the FROM header (original message) OREPLY Address Book entry for the REPLY-TO header (original message) Values for PPP: Namefull name FirstName first name LastName last name MiddleName middle name Handle handle NamePrefix name prefix NameSuffix name suffix Birthday date of birth e-mail primary e-mail address Addrprivate street address City private city name State private state/province ZIP private ZIP/Postal code Country private country Phone private phone number Fax private fax number Mobilemobile phone number Page private homepage URL Company company name Job job title Dept department name Officeoffice number BusAddr business street address BusCity business city name BusState business state/province BusZIPbusiness ZIP/Postal code BusCountry business country BusPhonebusiness phone number BusFaxbusiness fax number BusPager business pager number BusPage business homepage URL Genderperson's gender Charset character set (for this Address Book entry) MemoMemo contents Note: You can set a parameter to insert if no corresponding value for the field you defined is found. The parameter can be another macro, like %TONAME. -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.2 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
On Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 11:07:58 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > I found it near the front of the alphabetic list, but it's listed as > "ABnnnPPP" with two lists of constants to replace the "nnn" and "PPP" > placeholders. However as you can see in my sig I'm using a very old version > of TB and the current help files may be a bit different... Goes to show how handy it is to have some late adapters on an e-maillist. I copies the list of Macros from my current Help facility into MS Word sand searched on ABTO. Nada. Would it be a lot of bother for you to copy the ABnnnPPP section from your helpfile and pass it along to me? Now that I am using this obsolete-but-still-supported Macro, it will be helpful to know about these two constants. Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 9:50:07 AM, you wrote: > I could not find it in Full alphabetic list of macros that are part of > the Help Manual. I found it near the front of the alphabetic list, but it's listed as "ABnnnPPP" with two lists of constants to replace the "nnn" and "PPP" placeholders. However as you can see in my sig I'm using a very old version of TB and the current help files may be a bit different... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.2 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
On Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 8:25:19 AM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > That's news to me and very useful. Surprising what you don't know even > after 10 years plus of using TB! Not that surprising. ABtoFIRSTNAME does not appear in the suggested macros for Sender information or Recipient information when creating a template. I was able to find it, along with ABfromLASTNAME in a Help - Search on the name of the macro itself. I could not find it in Full alphabetic list of macros that are part of the Help Manual. If I did not know of its existence... Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Jim, > Have you tried ABTOFirstName instead? I've not used it, but according to That's news to me and very useful. Surprising what you don't know even after 10 years plus of using TB! -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
On Monday, March 18, 2013, 9:56:17 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > Probably not, if I understand what you want to do. TOFNAME will use the > first name of the first entry of the TO field, and if one addressee has > various ways of entering his address (so that your reply's TO field will > not be consistent) then the result will not be consistent either. > Have you tried ABTOFirstName instead? I've not used it, but according to > the help file in my very old version of TB it ought to do what you're > after... That worked!! Thanks. Now I will start propagating it through my address book to see whether this holds up. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Monday, March 18, 2013, 8:41:50 PM, you wrote: > I am using %TOFNAME. Is that the correct macro? Probably not, if I understand what you want to do. TOFNAME will use the first name of the first entry of the TO field, and if one addressee has various ways of entering his address (so that your reply's TO field will not be consistent) then the result will not be consistent either. Have you tried ABTOFirstName instead? I've not used it, but according to the help file in my very old version of TB it ought to do what you're after... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.2 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
I am combining my replies to several responses on this thread so that my replies will all be in one place On Monday, March 18, 2013, 3:09:39 AM, Roelof Otteb (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > This is very basic. > Personal address book templates taske precedence over address groups > templates, the latter take precedence over folder templates and > finally there are account templates. > There are two reasons that existing address book templates aren't > triggered: > 1) the address occurs in multiple entries Right now, the example I am using, exists in only one place, Pesonal Address Book > 2) the address with the temnplateisn't the first address inth To: HEADER I think I understand what you mean. The adressee in the example I am using has only a single address in the Email Adresse(s) and it is identical with the From in the message to which I am replyng. On Monday, March 18, 2013, 8:25:49 AM, Tony Hoare(tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > As I understand it, TheBat can use templates from the account, folder, > address book group and address book contact. Have you tried a template > at the individual contact level? I have at least one (for my wife!) > working correctly. Yes, that is what I am having a problem with. The %TOFNAME in the reply template for the _individual contact_ is ignored. On Monday, March 18, 2013, 7:27:00 PM, MFPA (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > Did you check for folder templates? Additional addressees? What > happens if you (temporarily) delete the account reply template and > then reply to one of those contacts? I tried that. No change. Clearly the reply code in The Bat is looking at the adressee level reply template, becuase everything else that I have specified in that template appears. Only the %TOFNAME comes from incoming message, and not from the address book. I am using %TOFNAME. Is that the correct macro? I have tried various other macros that work correctly in that spot. They act correctly, but that is not the information I want in the salutation. I have also hard coded the correct first name in the reply template instead of the macro, and that appears in the reply. I receive a lot of mail from this individual. Sometime the From is "acebl...@aol.com" and sometimes it is" Matt ". In the former case, 'aceblade" is in the salutation and in the latter, it is "Matt" [without the quotes of course. Very frustating. Thanks for your interest and your efforts. Leonard -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hi On Sunday 17 March 2013 at 3:56:36 PM, in , Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: > It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the > account templates and not the templates in the address > book. I thought the hierarchy was address book entry templates first, address book group templates second, then folder templates, and finally account templates. In my experience up to v4.0.38, the two or three address book entry templates I have defined usually take precedence over my account templates, so long as the outgoing message has no additional addressees on the "to" line. Did you check for folder templates? Additional addressees? What happens if you (temporarily) delete the account reply template and then reply to one of those contacts? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Roses smell better than onions but don't make such good soup Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Jack, > You've piqued my interest now as I too have fought with templates for years > with > limited success. If I may detail the templates in the order in which you > list them: > ACCOUNT: Select the account then right-click and select PROPERTIES. > FOLDER: Select the correspondent's folder then right-click and select > PROPERTIES > AB Group: Select the AB Group then right-click and select PROPERTIES > AB Contact: Select a specific AB Contact then right-click and select > PROPERTIES > And lastly you mention "individual contact level". Is this last simply a > reference to #4, the AB Contact or is there yet another level? Yes, I mean AB Contact, your #4 Good luck. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Tony, On Monday, March 18, 2013 you wrote: TH> Hello Leonard, TH> Sunday, March 17, 2013, 3:56:36 PM, you wrote: >> The thread about deleting address history reminded me about a vexing >> problem that I have asked about previouly, with not progresss on my >> end. -- SNIP - -- SNIP - >> It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the account templates and >> not the templates in the address book. >> Thanks. TH> As I understand it, TheBat can use templates from the account, folder, TH> address book group and address book contact. Have you tried a template TH> at the individual contact level? I have at least one (for my wife!) TH> working correctly. You've piqued my interest now as I too have fought with templates for years with limited success. If I may detail the templates in the order in which you list them: ACCOUNT: Select the account then right-click and select PROPERTIES. FOLDER: Select the correspondent's folder then right-click and select PROPERTIES AB Group: Select the AB Group then right-click and select PROPERTIES AB Contact: Select a specific AB Contact then right-click and select PROPERTIES And lastly you mention "individual contact level". Is this last simply a reference to #4, the AB Contact or is there yet another level? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hello Leonard, Sunday, March 17, 2013, 3:56:36 PM, you wrote: > The thread about deleting address history reminded me about a vexing > problem that I have asked about previouly, with not progresss on my > end. > Even though I have a reply template for an addressee, TheBat seem to > ignore it. For example, I receive a lot of e-mail from people with > titles (Dr. Professor, etc.). Frequently their titles are part of > their names that preced the . In the case of those > people whom I know personally, I like to address them by their first > names, and have a reply template to do exactly that. TheBat ignores > the template and starts the replay e-mail with Dr., Proffessor, etc.) > It was suggested in an earlier instance of this thread that possibly I > have the addressee in more than one place, thus conhfusing TheBat. > Although I do have a few of these cases like this, the improper > salutation appears in all cases. > It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the account templates and > not the templates in the address book. > Thanks. As I understand it, TheBat can use templates from the account, folder, address book group and address book contact. Have you tried a template at the individual contact level? I have at least one (for my wife!) working correctly. Cheers -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply, address history and the address book
Hallo Leonard, On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:56:36 -0400GMT (17-3-2013, 16:56 , where I live), you wrote: LB> Even though I have a reply template for an addressee, TheBat seem to LB> ignore it. For example, I receive a lot of e-mail from people with LB> titles (Dr. Professor, etc.). Frequently their titles are part of LB> their names that preced the . In the case of those LB> people whom I know personally, I like to address them by their first LB> names, and have a reply template to do exactly that. TheBat ignores LB> the template and starts the replay e-mail with Dr., Proffessor, etc.) This is very basic. Personal address book templates taske precedence over address groups templates, the latter take precedence over folder templates and finally there are account templates. There are two reasons that existing address book templates aren't triggered: 1) the address occurs in multiple entries 2) the address with the temnplateisn't the first address inth To: HEADER -- Groetjes, Roelof Take a MODERATOR to lunch,(s)he's probably broke. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.8.4 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply, address history and the address book
The thread about deleting address history reminded me about a vexing problem that I have asked about previouly, with not progresss on my end. Even though I have a reply template for an addressee, TheBat seem to ignore it. For example, I receive a lot of e-mail from people with titles (Dr. Professor, etc.). Frequently their titles are part of their names that preced the . In the case of those people whom I know personally, I like to address them by their first names, and have a reply template to do exactly that. TheBat ignores the template and starts the replay e-mail with Dr., Proffessor, etc.) It was suggested in an earlier instance of this thread that possibly I have the addressee in more than one place, thus conhfusing TheBat. Although I do have a few of these cases like this, the improper salutation appears in all cases. It seems that, come what may, TheBat looks to the account templates and not the templates in the address book. Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
