Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Kitty, I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives but it is missing a lot. FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using 60 as the spam score. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.80.06 AntispamSniper 1.6.4 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Wed 23-Aug-06 3:43pm -0600, Dave Goodman wrote: I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives but it is missing a lot. FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using 60 as the spam score. Is that with the commercial or free version? -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro :beta: 3.81.15 Beta BayesIt! 0.8.4 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Bill, FWIW, I installed Antispamsniper earlier this month. As of right now, with 1520 messages received, the error rate is 0.72%. I'm also using 60 as the spam score. Is that with the commercial or free version? The commercial version. I ran the free version for just a few days, then registered. I should have been more careful with the figures I mentioned. They are accurate, but they do not represent *all* messages received since the original installation. I ran the plugin for about ten days for a learning period; then reset the statistics back to zero to see how it performed. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.80.06 AntispamSniper 1.6.4 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
I tried the first two, then came across the AntiSpamSniper mentioned in another reply. After using it for a couple of days (the free version, which doesn't have all the features) I found it to be doing a much better job of learning and classifying, so will be buying it. I've not tried the last one, but the Sniper is doing so well I feel no need to keep searching... I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives but it is missing a lot. -- Best regards, Kittymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Tuesday, August 22, 2006, at 10:49:04 AM, Kitty wrote: I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives but it is missing a lot. I have mine set at 55. However it takes quite a bit of training. I'm still getting a few undetected, but the detection rate is rapidly increasing. At present I'm highlighting the whole Junk folder and clicking the junk button each time I check the mail, and also clicking not junk for each good message. It's important to let it know what is not junk, as well as what is junk... I also did register it, and am using the bad words feature that is only in the paid version to simplify the spam filtering. However my address appears on my web page since I have an on-line business and as a result get between 100 and 200 messages daily, most of which are spam... -- Jim Kyle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:59:55 -0500GMT (22-8-2006, 17:59 +0200, where I live), Jim Kyle wrote: On Tuesday, August 22, 2006, at 10:49:04 AM, Kitty wrote: I've been trying Antispamsniper and it seems to miss about half the spam. I have it set to mark as spam if it has a score of 60. Should I be setting this much lower? I'm not getting many false positives but it is missing a lot. I have mine set at 55. However it takes quite a bit of training. I'm still getting a few undetected, but the detection rate is rapidly increasing. At present I'm highlighting the whole Junk folder and clicking the junk button each time I check the mail, and also clicking not junk for each good message. It's important to let it know what is not junk, as well as what is junk... Mine is still at 90 from the time I used BayesFilter and it is working like a charm. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.81.15 Beta Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpuUeNhBVfu4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello Bat-Folk! On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads available. Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov Agava Antispamservant Plugin Anyone care to comment on these? Thx RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: One should always be in love. That is the reason one should never marry. - Oscar Wilde Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello rich, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:14:46 AM, you wrote: rg Hello Bat-Folk! rg On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads rg available. rg Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler rg BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov rg Agava Antispamservant Plugin rg Anyone care to comment on these? I have used BayesIt in the past. It worked (mostly) OK. I had no problems with it, but it was not the most effective filter around (at least the last time I used it g). On the plus side, I =never= had a false positive with it, but it only caught about 75 to 80% of the spam. I am using Agava now and it is much easier to get it to the point where it was filtering relatively well. It does a better overall job of catching spam, about 90+%, but I =do= get the occasional false positive. That is 'worrisome' since it makes it more likely that I will miss something ... nor can I just ignore the spam folder. I have not tried Bayes Filter. There are days I think about going back to BayesIt again to see if it has gotten any better. But I am mostly lazy and have not gotten around to it g -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.81.13 Beta on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello MikeD, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:37:33 PM, you wrote: M2 Hello rich, M2 Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:14:46 AM, you wrote: rg Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler rg BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov rg Agava Antispamservant Plugin rg Anyone care to comment on these? M2 There are days I think about going back to BayesIt again to see if it M2 has gotten any better. But I am mostly lazy and have not gotten M2 around to it g Rich has missed one. And you could test the severeness of your laziness :-) by trying out this one: ,--/ from a message from Marek Mikus: \ | developer of AntispamSniper released FREE version of its plugin, this version | misses some advanced features (DNSBL, deleting spam on server, Anti-phishing | etc.), but it is fully functional and with no trial. | | Download: http://antispamsniper.com/thebat_plugin.html | | Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html `-8--- After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, at 1:14:46 AM, rich gregory wrote: Anyone care to comment on these? I tried the first two, then came across the AntiSpamSniper mentioned in another reply. After using it for a couple of days (the free version, which doesn't have all the features) I found it to be doing a much better job of learning and classifying, so will be buying it. I've not tried the last one, but the Sniper is doing so well I feel no need to keep searching... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
rg Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler rg BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov rg Agava Antispamservant Plugin rg - Anyone care to comment on these? MP Rich has missed one. MP ,--/ from a message from Marek Mikus: \ MP | developer of AntispamSniper released FREE version of its plugin, this version MP | misses some advanced features (DNSBL, deleting spam on server, Anti-phishing MP | etc.), but it is fully functional and with no trial. MP | MP | Download: http://antispamsniper.com/thebat_plugin.html MP | MP | Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html MP `-8--- MP After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version. Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always looking for greener grass. -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 8 Aug 2006, @ @ at 15:17:57 -0400, when rich gregory wrote: MP | Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html MP `-8--- MP After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version. Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always looking for greener grass. This Gregory has best excuses. After, and after, Mark Partous. (-: The legendary Czechosloveniac. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ http://tronogi.tripod.com/pgp/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 670 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, Gentoo Vector ~ Wine ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-svn-4217 o tiger192 (Cygwin/MinGW32) iQEVAwUBRNj3N7SpHvHEUtv8AQiF9gf/RiAyCN6TNmLtcYxQaRqQbugreRtpMw0s ctOGPY2UK2Y/SsNmZOPI/brYyZcOwlsxKj1rFLadoigYBHU9/VZUCTqpyKzPsVt5 6X/axHLwoCDt5PGghZZCWG0FP7urVS6AkMREbWqsh6VEdySx5AAHS3s9oge7xgm3 wkPWMyyVzCZ5NiHbs6aqVapeBLiosuT1pnVFZwtESoTiYpwo6jxbhp1L6t8hEyv/ jCJz1u6T0R1QZDA+DVDj65PgdVnh6AkStprAlzHEcVl37odSDtnmL75E8MN3HhV0 t35Ded2CD2jSRY0OD9ywz+wy7tfw2AdrRVaarsfY4J2XixbWnmQ3aQ== =ckg5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)
Hello rich, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote: rg Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web rg site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always rg looking for greener grass. Did you ever check if your stomach happens to have four compartments? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.81.14 Beta Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
