Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-04 Thread Stuart Hemming
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MW I'm still looking forward to /BACKUP ALL...
Or /FILTER
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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Mark,

@1-Aug-2003, 20:23 -0700 (04:23 UK time) Mark Wieder [MW] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MDP TB can be driven using IPC (Inter Program Communications) via
MDP a disk file called TheBat.IPC. Commands can be written to this
MDP file by any application and TB will read them and execute
MDP them.

MW Just when I think I'm starting to know my way around TB...

MW The help file doesn't have too much to say about this. Any clue
MW about the format of the commands in the text file? Are these
MW standard DOS commands? TB command line arguments?

- From the Help file:

,--/ Section:About The Bat! Command line parameters \--
| For those who are familiar with programming, here's a handy hint:
| The Bat! checks a file called TheBat.IPC which is located in the
| same directory in which The Bat! executable (TheBat.exe) file is
| located. Within this text file, each line represents one command
| that can be executed by the program, so you can write commands to
| this file directly and control The Bat! on your PC even over a local
| network. Note that TheBat.IPC is deleted as soon as all commands
| from it have been executed, so if this file does not exist, you will
| have to create it to make use of it.
`-8-

This all implies that you can use a series of command line parameter
commands in the IPC.

MW Is that 10-second thing documented anywhere?

No. :-/.

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Re[2]: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Razgo


R and can this function be turned off?

Marck No. But then checking a file once every 10 seconds is not a
Marck particularly heavy overhead. Unless you're running from a floppy
Marck drive.

R is it a needed function?

Marck Yes.

R i don't understand the purpose of it.

Marck I hope that helps clear it up a bit for you.

yes it is much clearer now, thanks. however it's not about how much
cpu this function uses but rather it's a function in my email
client that i have no control over. to me it just doesn't feel right
that i can't make the bat! sit there idle and only do things when i
want it to do it. i know this is probably a whole new topic, but
where/how can i go about putting in a request/wish? for this function
to be an option rather than a needed function that i am clearly not
using, yet i have no choice in it checking something that doesn't exist?

thanks.



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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Razgo,

@2-Aug-2003, 21:02 +1000 (12:02 UK time) Razgo [R] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

R and can this function be turned off?

Marck No. ...
Marck I hope that helps clear it up a bit for you.

R yes it is much clearer now, thanks. however it's not about how
R much cpu this function uses but rather it's a function in my
R email client that i have no control over.

... maybe, but it does no harm, takes no CPU and doesn't affect you
in any other way than in the back of your mind :-).

R to me it just doesn't feel right that i can't make the bat! sit
R there idle and only do things when i want it to do it.

... for that kind of usage, there's no need to have it taking up
valuable RAM. Just load it when you need it :-/.

R i know this is probably a whole new topic, but where/how can i go
R about putting in a request/wish?

This kind of issue is handled in the beta testing area.

You can subscribe to the discussion list here:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Beta versions are regularly announced there. Review the archive for
details (and download locations) of the current beta version on
http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com.

Sniff around on the Beta FTP site for the latest version here:
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta

R for this function to be an option rather than a needed function
R that i am clearly not using, yet i have no choice in it checking
R something that doesn't exist?

Like I say, I think you're making too much of it. It's no overhead
and does no harm. But if you want to post a wish on the
Wishlist/Bugtraq, now's probably as good a time as any, with V2
about to go into beta testing.

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Re[2]: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Razgo



R yes it is much clearer now, thanks. however it's not about how
R much cpu this function uses but rather it's a function in my
R email client that i have no control over.

Marck ... maybe, but it does no harm, takes no CPU and doesn't affect you
Marck in any other way than in the back of your mind :-).

it may do no harm but yes it does use cpu and it does start up every
ten sec's.  how much cpu and what it does is not the issue. the issue
is as i have already stated. that is the bat! is performing a useless
function every ten sec's, yet i have no control over it? that in my
eyes is an issue regardless of it being harmless or not.

R to me it just doesn't feel right that i can't make the bat! sit
R there idle and only do things when i want it to do it.

Marck ... for that kind of usage, there's no need to have it taking up
Marck valuable RAM. Just load it when you need it :-/.

that's not a solution to the problem, but thanks anyway.

R i know this is probably a whole new topic, but where/how can i go
R about putting in a request/wish?

Marck This kind of issue is handled in the beta testing area.

Marck You can subscribe to the discussion list here:
Marck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thank you i will do that.


R for this function to be an option rather than a needed function
R that i am clearly not using, yet i have no choice in it checking
R something that doesn't exist?

Marck Like I say, I think you're making too much of it. It's no overhead
Marck and does no harm. But if you want to post a wish on the
Marck Wishlist/Bugtraq, now's probably as good a time as any, with V2
Marck about to go into beta testing.

i'm making too much of it? for who? as a paying customer i think it's
ok for me to find out why my email programme is continually looking
for something that doesn't exist. i think i am being totally fair in
my requests here. it was a fair question which i think many would have
wanted to know the answer to this and why it continues.

thank you for your help.
russ



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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Marck-

Saturday, August 2, 2003, 2:30:05 AM, you wrote:

MW The help file doesn't have too much to say about this. Any clue
MW about the format of the commands in the text file? Are these
MW standard DOS commands? TB command line arguments?

MDP - From the Help file:

MDP ,--/ Section:About The Bat! Command line parameters \--
snipped

Yep. That's what I meant by not much help.

I experimented with it and found that you can put command line
arguments in the text file and they get executed properly. I played it
safe and tried out /MINIMIZE.

I'm still looking forward to /BACKUP ALL...

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file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Razgo
when trying to fine tune my PC i was using a file monitor programme to
locate things that is using up cpu, and found that the bat! is
continually trying to open a file called THEBAT.IPC . the file
doesn't exist. should this file be there? and what is it?
thanks.
russ



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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Razgo,

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:48:22 +1000GMT (1-8-03, 9:48 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

R found that the bat! is continually trying to open a file called
R THEBAT.IPC . the file doesn't exist. should this file be there?

It isn't on my pc either...

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Re[2]: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Razgo


Friday, August 1, 2003, 6:05:18 PM, you wrote:

Roelof Hallo Razgo,

Roelof On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:48:22 +1000GMT (1-8-03, 9:48 +0200, where I
Roelof live), you wrote:

R found that the bat! is continually trying to open a file called
R THEBAT.IPC . the file doesn't exist. should this file be there?

Roelof It isn't on my pc either...



thanks for the comment. thebat! is trying to open this file every 10
sec's.
russ



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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, August 1, 2003, Razgo wrote:

 when trying to fine tune my PC i was using a file monitor programme to
 locate things that is using up cpu, and found that the bat! is
 continually trying to open a file called THEBAT.IPC . the file
 doesn't exist. should this file be there? and what is it?

AFAIK The Bat looks every 10 seconds for a file in its directory
called TheBat.IPC for external feeding of commands.

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Re[2]: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Razgo


Friday, August 1, 2003, 6:14:40 PM, you wrote:

Marek Hello all,
Marek Friday, August 1, 2003, Razgo wrote:

 when trying to fine tune my PC i was using a file monitor programme to
 locate things that is using up cpu, and found that the bat! is
 continually trying to open a file called THEBAT.IPC . the file
 doesn't exist. should this file be there? and what is it?

Marek AFAIK The Bat looks every 10 seconds for a file in its directory
Marek called TheBat.IPC for external feeding of commands.


can that be explained more?  what external feeding of commands is it
looking for? should I have a file called thebat.ipc??.  and can this
function be turned off? is it a needed function? i don't understand the
purpose of it.

thanks.



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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Razgo,

@2-Aug-2003, 09:16 +1000 (00:16 UK time) Razgo [R] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Marek AFAIK The Bat looks every 10 seconds for a file in its
Marek directory called TheBat.IPC for external feeding of
Marek commands.

R can that be explained more?  what external feeding of commands is
R it looking for?

TB can be driven using IPC (Inter Program Communications) via a disk
file called TheBat.IPC. Commands can be written to this file by any
application and TB will read them and execute them.

R should I have a file called thebat.ipc??.

Not unless / until you have commands to send to TB from the outside.

R and can this function be turned off?

No. But then checking a file once every 10 seconds is not a
particularly heavy overhead. Unless you're running from a floppy
drive.

R is it a needed function?

Yes.

R i don't understand the purpose of it.

I hope that helps clear it up a bit for you.

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Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Marck-

Friday, August 1, 2003, 5:30:19 PM, you wrote:

MDP TB can be driven using IPC (Inter Program Communications) via a disk
MDP file called TheBat.IPC. Commands can be written to this file by any
MDP application and TB will read them and execute them.

Just when I think I'm starting to know my way around TB...

The help file doesn't have too much to say about this. Any clue about
the format of the commands in the text file? Are these standard DOS
commands? TB command line arguments? Is that 10-second thing
documented anywhere?

-Mark Wieder

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