Re: global option for smtp server
Dear Gerard, Going back 22:50 23.09.2002... Or you can use postcastserver http://www.postcastserver.com/ This sends your email directly to the mail server of the recipient, thereby making a providers smtp server optional :-) This is also great if you are a road warrior with a laptop. Another drawback could be that your dial-up IP is listed. Many SMTP servers block dial-up IPs froim delivering mail to them... Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The following destination addresses were unknown: SMTP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Dear Gerard, Going back 11:56 25.09.2002... There are already officialconnections on airports, hotels and other place were the warriors hang out. Indeed it becomes very popular, at last :) But nonetheless, if you're worried about security on a WLAN, provide it to yourself! :) Seriously, you get the plain IP connection. TB can manage SSL, or you could use a VPN, thus not having to worry about someone listening. I think it is a great enhancement, and especially at airports where it can happen that you have to be 2 hours before the flight starts. Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- La news, c'est moi :-) Pssst, wenn das die Academie Francaise sieht... ;-)) ~ news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:56:26 +0200 GMT (25/09/02, 16:56 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G There are already officialconnections on airports, hotels and other G place were the warriors hang out. Where are these? Is there a URL listing them? G The unofficial ones are the fully open networks (you would be G surprised how many there are) and the companies who share there G connection with others. We have a website here that organizes these G semi-open networks. ;-) TF PS: In my country (Thailand), there is no single internet provider TF offering cable connection. I have no choice but to connect by DUN. G I feel for you ;-) ADSL is now offered in Thailand, so I hear. I am trying to find out who offers this and how much it costs. Anybody in Thailand who knows this, please contact me offlist. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I prayed for patience once... And I'm STILL waiting! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hi Thomas, On Saturday, September 28, 2002 20:41 your local time, (19:26 my local time), you [TF] wrote: G There are already officialconnections on airports, hotels and G other place were the warriors hang out. TF Where are these? Is there a URL listing them? I read somewhere that Changi airport has some wireless facility, but may be restricted to downloading flight schedules and related stuff (basically one way communication). (should be moved to TBOT I guess) -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination. - Oscar Wilde ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: global option for smtp server
Hello tracer, On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 11:14:49 PM, you wrote: T having more dial-up accounts, each it`s own smtp server, T is there a way to setup one default smtp server for all T accounts, not only on per account basis? t I have an account with myrealbox.com and in the past (may still work) t if you supply your login to the SMTP with your password, it will t send It still works. And thanks for providing the tip about myrealbox.com a few years back. The service has been very reliable. Douglas -- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Paul, On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:28:02 -0400 GMT (25/09/02, 07:28 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC Thanks Allie, I already had the install file on my PC, I'll try it again PC tomorrow. Tonight I've had enough, I was in a car accident today, some PC moron failed to stop ( behind me) at a stop sign. He not only hit ME, PC but pushed me into the car in front of me. Above all, I'm glad you are unhurt. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 22:34:11 +0200 GMT (25/09/02, 03:34 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G Your absolutely right about this aspect. I have been using cable and G ADSL for almost 5 years now, I forget that people are still using G dial-up accounts. Weren't we talking about road warriors with a laptop? I know there are some experiments under way, in both the US and Europe, with wireless internet, i.e. you just turn on your laptop and your are connected as if you were on a LAN. But I would think most of the road warriors (I like the term) would still need to connect via DUN from their hotel rooms. ;-) PS: In my country (Thailand), there is no single internet provider offering cable connection. I have no choice but to connect by DUN. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hi Thomas, On Wednesday, September 25, 2002 14:58 your local time, (13:43 my local time), you [TF] wrote: TF I know there are some experiments under way, in both the US and TF Europe, with wireless internet, i.e. you just turn on your laptop TF and your are connected as if you were on a LAN. More than experiments, the WI-FI certified 802.11b wireless solution is fast becoming a standard feature in laptops. But lot of issues remain. TF But I would think most of the road warriors (I like the term) TF would still need to connect via DUN from their hotel rooms. ;-) Yes. I don't think there are that many 802.11b public access points yet for the road warriors to give up conventional modes. Specially in our neck of the woods, these may be nonexistent. TF In my country (Thailand), there is no single internet provider TF offering cable connection. I have no choice but to connect by DUN That's even more discouraging for countries like mine, that follow your footsteps. :( The prospect for broadband seems ever so far... But I'm surprised that Thailand is still resorting to DUN. Why hasn't broadband diffused into BKK from Singapore and Malaysia? -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ The Romans didn't find algebra very challenging, because X was always 10 ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Dear Thomas, --- Thomas F. / Mittwoch, 25.09.2002, 09:58:49 global option for smtp server [...] I have no choice but to connect by DUN. ^^^ | What is DUN? -+ -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Sudip, On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:30:20 +0545 GMT (25/09/02, 15:45 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: SP More than experiments, the WI-FI certified 802.11b wireless SP solution is fast becoming a standard feature in laptops. Wow, I didn't know this. SP But lot of issues remain. Guess so. WLAN is an invitation for eavesdropping, I don't know why WI-FI would be. SP But I'm surprised that Thailand is still resorting to DUN. Why SP hasn't broadband diffused into BKK from Singapore and Malaysia? Don't ask. ;-) But I hear that one ISP wants to offer it in the near future. What ever that means. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Dear Thomas, --- Thomas F. / Mittwoch, 25.09.2002, 11:40:29 global option for smtp server [...] I have no choice but to connect by DUN. EC^^^ EC | EC What is DUN? -+ Dail-Up Network connection. How come that people ask mostly questions to the most simple things *gg*. Thanks Thomas have a nice day :-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Eddie, On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:34:48 +0200 GMT (25/09/02, 16:34 +0700 GMT), Eddie Castelli wrote: [...] I have no choice but to connect by DUN. EC^^^ EC | EC What is DUN? -+ Dail-Up Network connection. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
ON Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 9:58:49 AM, you wrote: TF Weren't we talking about road warriors with a laptop? I know there TF are some experiments under way, in both the US and Europe, with TF wireless internet, i.e. you just turn on your laptop and your are TF connected as if you were on a LAN. But I would think most of the road TF warriors (I like the term) would still need to connect via DUN from TF their hotel rooms. ;-) There are already officialconnections on airports, hotels and other place were the warriors hang out. The unofficial ones are the fully open networks (you would be surprised how many there are) and the companies who share there connection with others. We have a website here that organizes these semi-open networks. TF PS: In my country (Thailand), there is no single internet provider TF offering cable connection. I have no choice but to connect by DUN. I feel for you ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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ON Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 11:34:48 AM, you wrote: EC Dear Thomas, EC --- Thomas F. / Mittwoch, 25.09.2002, 09:58:49 EC global option for smtp server [...] I have no choice but to connect by DUN. EC^^^ EC | EC What is DUN? -+ Hi Eddie, Dial UP Network, using the old POTS (Plain Old Telephone System) network :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My definition of an expert in any field is a person who knows enough about what's really going to be scared. -- P.J. Plauger Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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[...] I have no choice but to connect by DUN. ^^^ | What is DUN? -+ Dial UP Network, using the old POTS (Plain Old Telephone System) network:-) Correct in the fact it is 'Dial-Up Network', incorrect that it has to be using 'POT' :-) Using ISDN it is still called 'DUN', albeit ISDN ain't POT anymore but a type of 'SDSL' :-) F-up2: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Pit Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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ON Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 12:32:38 PM, you wrote: PP Correct in the fact it is 'Dial-Up Network', incorrect that it has to be PP using 'POT' :-) Using ISDN it is still called 'DUN', albeit ISDN ain't PP POT anymore but a type of 'SDSL' :-) PP F-up2: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Peter, I was just trying to avoid the next questions ;-) You are correct of course, But ISDN and all the X-DSL variants use the same POT cable. I will probably still refer to it as POT until the glass-fiber is at my doorstep. I'am getting old :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mathematicians are like Frenchmen: whatever you say to them they translate into their own language and forthwith it is something entirely different. - Goethe - Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hi Thomas, On Wednesday, September 25, 2002 16:29 your local time, (15:14 my local time), you [TF] wrote: TF Guess so. WLAN is an invitation for eavesdropping, I don't know TF why WI-FI would be. I think we've crossed the threshold and veering into OT here, but I'll quickly state that I've heard 802.11b supports 128-bit encryption -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 11:00 PM, you wrote: ACM I've now updated the page to include information on how to autostart ACM Mercury at system startup and how to run it as a service if you ACM really wish to. Just look at the bottom of the page. ACM New URL (tell me if it works) ACM http://home.ac-martin.com/merc32config.html one other thing I wanted to mention was the section on name servers ( DNS). You might want to explain how to find those ;) I know you can do it in WinXP by typing ipconfig/all from a command line (Start-run-cmd) and looking for the line with the name servers, but win98 uses winipcfg if I recall right. I'm an old DNS admin so I know what you are talking about, but I'll bet lots of people don't know. as for the autostart, create a shortcut where?? does the command line go in a file (autoexec.bat?) win.ini ?? for the service your item#2 didn't work, the command instsrv was not found. I found a link to it ( google search:) here: http://www.pyeung.com/download/nt/ntreskit/instsrv.exe I also put it in windows\system32 and ran the command successfully. I went to start-control panel-administrative task-services and found that mercury was now a service, with an automatic setting. for the part about interacting with the desktop you need to mention that you right-click the mercury line in the services and select the Log-On tab: Open the Services icon within the Windows Control Panel and check the Allow interact with desktop checkbox for the Mercury32 service, then try starting it. it started and is set to automatic !!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 11:00 PM, you wrote: ACM I've now updated the page to include information on how to autostart ACM Mercury at system startup and how to run it as a service if you ACM really wish to. Just look at the bottom of the page. ACM New URL (tell me if it works) ACM http://home.ac-martin.com/merc32config.html oh yeah, the latest version of Mercry32 is now m32-332.exe the southeast US link to download it is: http://www.pmail.com/downloads_risc_t.htm -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Joan Josep, On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:33:43 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 3:33:43 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Joan Josep wrote: Hello Tomas, On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, at 20:50:41 [GMT +0200] (which was 23/09/2002 (D/M/Y) 19:50 where I live) you wrote: T having more dial-up accounts, each it`s own smtp server, T is there a way to setup one default smtp server for all T accounts, not only on per account basis? I have an account with myrealbox.com and in the past (may still work) if you supply your login to the SMTP with your password, it will send -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60q mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Dear all, thanks for all the suggestions. I am not that technical type, so was surprised about possibility of running own smtp server. Anyway first I will try X-Ray according to Sudips suggestion, seems good. Best regards, Tomas Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 1:55:35 AM, you wrote: If I understand your problem correctly, and alternate to what others have suggested, you might want to look at X-Ray (www.xrayapp.com). This will automatically select a 'correct' SMTP server depending on the dial-up account being used. It's a small program that is specially designed to work in tandem with TB! It does more than SMTP settings, including manipulating of headers, but that's a different story... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tomas [T] wrote:' T thanks for all the suggestions. I am not that technical type, T so was surprised about possibility of running own smtp server. It's a far less technical venture than you think and this is why I suggested it. :) I felt just as intimidated by the prospect before I did it. The term 'server' tends to alarm the passing end user. 'What do I need that for??' However, it's the smoothest solution for your problem and a local POP server could do nice things for streamlining all those accounts. My only regret with installing MDaemon is that I didn't do so much earlier since I shared your view about it being technical before I tried it. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 iD8DBQE9kECjV8nrYCsHF+IRArwaAJ47NfjDFHELMkmQ3WaspD5sr7UbYACfWHB9 bn6xoRHcgUmXZtvuo7YNW/0= =5moZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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ON Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 12:38:29 PM, you wrote: ACM It's a far less technical venture than you think and this is why I ACM suggested it. :) I felt just as intimidated by the prospect before I ACM did it. The term 'server' tends to alarm the passing end user. 'What ACM do I need that for??' However, it's the smoothest solution for your ACM problem and a local POP server could do nice things for streamlining ACM all those accounts. ACM My only regret with installing MDaemon is that I didn't do so much ACM earlier since I shared your view about it being technical before I ACM tried it. Allie, You're absolutely right. I also didn't want to do this at fist, thinking that it might be very complicated. As it turned out, it worked with the default settings and only later I made some mods. I suggested Postcast because I use it and its free. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You can measure a programmer's perspective by noting his attitude on the continuing viability of FORTRAN. -- Alan Perlis Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 at 13:27:31 [GMT +0200], you wrote: G I suggested Postcast because I use it and its free. I've been using Postcast as well for the TBLH discussion list, but I've noticed it's a little on the slow side. Have you noticed that as well? I'm wondering if it's a configuration issue. It shouldn't be too slow as it's going 128Kbps on a Cable connection. Either way, having your own SMTP server rocks. The only thing I dislike about doing it is that your IP address shows up in the headers which isn't the greatest thing for persistent connection people. At any rate, it really is the best way to go. You're only limited by your bandwidth, not limitations imposed by your ISP on the number of recipients (especially in the BCC field). Cheers, Leif Gregory -- List Moderator (and fellow registered end-user) PCWize Editor / ICQ 216395 / PGP Key ID 0x7CD4926F Web Site http://www.PCWize.com TB FAQ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a P4 1.6Ghz OC'd to 2.32Ghz with 512MB. Tagline of the day: Latest survey shows that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the world's population. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 8:31 AM, you wrote: LG On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 at 13:27:31 [GMT +0200], you wrote: G I suggested Postcast because I use it and its free. LG I've been using Postcast as well for the TBLH discussion list, but LG I've noticed it's a little on the slow side. Have you noticed that as LG well? I'm wondering if it's a configuration issue. It shouldn't be too LG slow as it's going 128Kbps on a Cable connection. LG Cheers, LG Leif Gregory Hi, I also tried Postcast, but I got tired of waiting for my PC to finish booting. Seems the postcast service took FOREVER to startup or connect, or whatever it does.I still have it installed, but I don't run it anymore, I'm back to using my ISPs SMTP server. Maybe Allie could give us a quick primer on Mercury32 ;) I took a look at it before I installed postcast, but it scared me away, Postcast was a snap to install. oh yeah, I have a 1.6Ghz PC with 256 megs of ram, so speed of processor shouldn't be an issue. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hallo Leif, On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:31:37 -0600GMT (24-9-02, 14:31 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: LG The only thing dislike about doing it is that your IP address LG shows up in the headers which isn't the greatest thing for LG persistent connection people. Most (if not all) ISP's mention the originating ip-address in all messages going through their smtp-server, both those originating from their own network as those destined to their network. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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ON Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 2:31:37 PM, you wrote: LG Hello Gerard, LG I've been using Postcast as well for the TBLH discussion list, but LG I've noticed it's a little on the slow side. Have you noticed that as LG well? I'm wondering if it's a configuration issue. It shouldn't be too LG slow as it's going 128Kbps on a Cable connection. It's not the quickest when it comes to starting but it takes about 15 sec. on my 1.7Ghz/512MB machine. Also the through put is fast enough on my 512Kps ADSL connection. I must say I have no experience with other servers. LG Either way, having your own SMTP server rocks. The only thing I LG dislike about doing it is that your IP address shows up in the headers LG which isn't the greatest thing for persistent connection people. Absolutely. I use X-Ray before Postcast to strip and add address, but I can't stop Postcast from adding headers. Anyway since Postcast delivers directly to the recipient I am not to worried. I don't send mail to spammers ;-) LG At any rate, it really is the best way to go. You're only limited by LG your bandwidth, not limitations imposed by your ISP on the number of LG recipients (especially in the BCC field). More control, flexibility and power. Who can refuse this? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Double your drive space - delete Windows! Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Gerard, Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 10:07:15 AM, you wrote: G More control, flexibility and power. Who can refuse this? Some ISPs, that's who. Some of them block the SMTP port, so you are forced to use theirs. Many of the free systems do that, so that they can add their advertisement on each of your emails. When confronted, they say that they block SMTP access in order to prevent spam. -- Best regards, Ka`hakumailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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ON Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 4:22:34 PM, you wrote: G More control, flexibility and power. Who can refuse this? KhPomSome ISPs, that's who. Some of them block the SMTP port, so you are KhPom forced to use theirs. Many of the free systems do that, so that they KhPom can add their advertisement on each of your emails. When confronted, KhPom they say that they block SMTP access in order to prevent spam. Hi Ka`haku, I must say I never had that problem. If they block the SMTP port does that mean that you're SMTP server can't establish contact with the recipients SMTP server? Sounds like enough reason to find an other ISP. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Last words of Union commander General John Sedgwick, spoken as he was watching enemy troops at the Battle of Spotsylvania Court House. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Gerard, On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:50:00 +0200 GMT (24/09/02, 03:50 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G Or you can use postcastserver http://www.postcastserver.com/ G This sends your email directly to the mail server of the recipient, G thereby making a providers smtp server optional :-) G This is also great if you are a road warrior with a laptop. There is one problem with having your own SMTP server on your machine: you need to be connected until the mail is delivered. With a dial-up connection this can be frustrating if the recipeint's server has a problem. Therefore, I recommend creating an account with www.myrealbox.com and use their SMTP server (you have to log on to the SMTP server with your POP account details but can use any From address). This way, you just send your mail to their server, log off, and they do the rest. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
ON Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 9:08:08 PM, you wrote: TF There is one problem with having your own SMTP server on your machine: TF you need to be connected until the mail is delivered. With a dial-up TF connection this can be frustrating if the recipeint's server has a TF problem. Your absolutely right about this aspect. I have been using cable and ADSL for almost 5 years now, I forget that people are still using dial-up accounts. TF Therefore, I recommend creating an account with www.myrealbox.com and TF use their SMTP server (you have to log on to the SMTP server with your TF POP account details but can use any From address). This way, you just TF send your mail to their server, log off, and they do the rest. ;-) That's a good, functional alternative. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC Maybe Allie could give us a quick primer on Mercury32 ;) I took PC a look at it before I installed postcast, but it scared me away, PC Postcast was a snap to install. Ok, this has been asked enough so I banged together this page: http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html I hope that it helps those interested in using Mercury/32 or will make those intimidated by it revisit using it. It's fast and it leaves a small footprint. It's also stable. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 iD8DBQE9kO1zV8nrYCsHF+IRAiZuAJ9lEX8bnn0YE+MO9TP6ScHGvmWQYACg8dEM UxKDNOVnmTb17IQGWwjdM/A= =m5Xt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 01:55:50, Allie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about: global option for smtp server http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html Hello Allie Thank you very much for the information. Great help for a beginner like me. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 6:55 PM, you wrote: ACM Ok, this has been asked enough so I banged together this page: ACM http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html ACM I hope that it helps those interested in using Mercury/32 or will ACM make those intimidated by it revisit using it. It's fast and it ACM leaves a small footprint. It's also stable. Thanks Allie, I already had the install file on my PC, I'll try it again tomorrow. Tonight I've had enough, I was in a car accident today, some moron failed to stop ( behind me) at a stop sign. He not only hit ME, but pushed me into the car in front of me. SO I'm not up to installing any new software tonight. I doo appreciate your putting that web site together!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 9:45 PM, you wrote: PC On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 6:55 PM, you wrote: PC Maybe Allie could give us a quick primer on Mercury32 ;) I took PC a look at it before I installed postcast, but it scared me away, PC Postcast was a snap to install. ACM Ok, this has been asked enough so I banged together this page: ACM http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html well, if this gets to you, then I was able to install and configure Mercury correctly. Since I have a broadband connection, I didn't use the relay client, I use the full smtp service. Mercury sure starts up faster than postcast did!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 9:55 PM, you wrote: PC On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 6:55 PM, you wrote: ACM Ok, this has been asked enough so I banged together this page: ACM http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html ok, so I think I sent a message, and I have Mercury configured. What I haven't seen, and I'm not sure about is how to start it automatically when I restart XP. I see no service starting in my startupmanager program, and I see no entry in any menu to check to start mercury automatically. This program is FAST, and it works great with TB !!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 6:55 PM, you wrote: ACM Ok, this has been asked enough so I banged together this page: ACM http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html ok, so I think I sent a message, and I have Mercury configured. What I haven't seen, and I'm not sure about is how to start it automatically when I restart XP. I see no service starting in my startupmanager program, and I see no entry in any menu to check to start mercury automatically. This program is FAST, and it works great with TB !!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC ok, so I think I sent a message, and I have Mercury configured. Great. At least my efforts weren't for nothing. phew :) PC What I haven't seen, and I'm not sure about is how to start it PC automatically when I restart XP. I think you'll have to place a PC I see no service starting in my startupmanager program, and I PC see no entry in any menu to check to start mercury PC automatically. This program is FAST, and it works great with TB PC !!! You could add a shortcut to mercury loader in your startup menu and in the path use path\mercury\loader.exe -m . The '-m' makes Mercury minimise to the systray. I don't see a ready means to run Mercury as a service either. I guess you'd need a third party tool for that. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 iD8DBQE9kSEeV8nrYCsHF+IRAhysAJoCxCEbdQeWfDia5f4Jn4U5mbpOQACg4HBm b/NnSmCv8DP2JlQDXBSnV7k= =zxiw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
On Tuesday, September 24, 2002, 6:55 PM, you wrote: PC Maybe Allie could give us a quick primer on Mercury32 ;) I took PC a look at it before I installed postcast, but it scared me away, PC Postcast was a snap to install. ACM Ok, this has been asked enough so I banged together this page: ACM http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/merc32config.html well, if this gets to you, then I was able to install and configure Mercury correctly. Since I have a broadband connection, I didn't use the relay client, I use the full smtp service. Mercury sure starts up faster than postcast did!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC ok, so I think I sent a message, and I have Mercury configured. PC What I haven't seen, and I'm not sure about is how to start it PC automatically when I restart XP. I see no service starting in my PC startupmanager program, and I see no entry in any menu to check PC to start mercury automatically. I've now updated the page to include information on how to autostart Mercury at system startup and how to run it as a service if you really wish to. Just look at the bottom of the page. New URL (tell me if it works) http://home.ac-martin.com/merc32config.html - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 iD8DBQE9kSatV8nrYCsHF+IRAqC5AKDqYpZxLR6r4EakDu50vB/ijO8RhgCgtYkb i/zSRC7ZY707CXxLaFK7X9M= =GI9x -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
global option for smtp server
Hello, having more dial-up accounts, each it`s own smtp server, is there a way to setup one default smtp server for all accounts, not only on per account basis? Having to change smtp server 3 or more accounts, eventhough it is not very often, is pain in the ass. -- Best regards, Tomas Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tomas [T] wrote:' T Having to change smtp server 3 or more accounts, eventhough T it is not very often, is pain in the ass. You need to outfit yourself with your own SMTP server. I suggest running Mercury/32 and enabling only the SMTP modules. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 iD8DBQE9j2X6V8nrYCsHF+IRAnfbAJ93TdPoxJDFsVYUFT4a9EOnGA9HmQCg6klq bnOSLx19QWC2BLG64FNP4vE= =dPY1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hello Tomas, On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, at 20:50:41 [GMT +0200] (which was 23/09/2002 (D/M/Y) 19:50 where I live) you wrote: T having more dial-up accounts, each it`s own smtp server, T is there a way to setup one default smtp server for all T accounts, not only on per account basis? You have the possibility of using a different pop server for each account for the incoming mail, but one single smtp server for all of them for the outgoing mail. Only drawback I know is that you may be revealing this e-mail address to unwanted correspondents, if this matters. -- Best regards, Joan Josep Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
ON Monday, September 23, 2002, 10:33:43 PM, you wrote: JJ Hello Tomas, JJ On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, at 20:50:41 [GMT +0200] JJ (which was 23/09/2002 (D/M/Y) 19:50 where I live) you wrote: T having more dial-up accounts, each it`s own smtp server, T is there a way to setup one default smtp server for all T accounts, not only on per account basis? JJ You have the possibility of using a different pop server for each JJ account for the incoming mail, but one single smtp server for all of JJ them for the outgoing mail. Only drawback I know is that you may be JJ revealing this e-mail address to unwanted correspondents, if this JJ matters. Or you can use postcastserver http://www.postcastserver.com/ This sends your email directly to the mail server of the recipient, thereby making a providers smtp server optional :-) This is also great if you are a road warrior with a laptop. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= She has a very sharp wit, and she wields it like a blunt instrument. -- Stone Phillips Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: global option for smtp server
Hi Tomas, On Monday, September 23, 2002 20:50 your local time, (Tuesday, 00:35 my local time), you [T] wrote: T having more dial-up accounts, each it`s own smtp server, is there a T way to setup one default smtp server for all accounts, not only on T per account basis? If I understand your problem correctly, and alternate to what others have suggested, you might want to look at X-Ray (www.xrayapp.com). This will automatically select a 'correct' SMTP server depending on the dial-up account being used. It's a small program that is specially designed to work in tandem with TB! It does more than SMTP settings, including manipulating of headers, but that's a different story... -- Be Well, Sudip Pokhrel Sudip Kathmandu-NP. ___PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| http://pgpkeys.mit.edu P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| ___ There can't be a crisis today, my schedule is already full /\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail X / \ Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
