Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-04-03 Thread Christopher W .

Sacks, Avram @ 2008-4-02 10:52:27 AM
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 I keep two computers synchronized daily, morning and night, by
 using a little program (25 bucks I think) called Directory Toolkit.
 This program sounds great, particularly since I would like to do
 with another application (Adobe Photoshop Elements and Premier
 Elements) what I would like to do with the Bat. How long have you
 been using it, and do you encounter any firewall issues with it?

I've not be following this thread that closely, but you may want to
take a look at Unison:
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-30 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Dwight,

Sunday, March 30, 2008, 3:02:13 AM, you wrote:

DC I've been very satisfied with fastmail, and there are others out there
DC too, some even free.

I'm using IMAP with Fastmail and AIM Mail.

But that's only a fraction of my email. Most goes trough my domain names.

DC your message caused me to look at my provider's email services. They
DC never mention IMAP in their entire documentation.

From their POV it's probably a wise decision.  :-)


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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-30 Thread Doug Higby
Hello Achdut18,

Sunday, March 30, 2008, 7:25:17 AM, you wrote:

A After reading all of the posts on this subject, It seems to me that I
A could do the following: download mail to either the laptop or the
A desktop, but then use the synchronization feature of The Bat to make
A sure that both machines have the same mail on their hard drives.
A Would this also work to automatically copy to the laptop all of the
A mail on the desktop, the first time I invoke synchronization on the
A laptop?

Synchronisation is a three step process and so you don't want to be doing this 
on a
daily basis.  It would be nice if it were possible to do this automatically 
over a
network.

The solution I have used for a long time was to use TheBat Voyager on a memory 
stick.
 I could carry it with me between work and home.

 I've stopped using Voyager for now until version 4 is released. Then I will 
probably
 continue with Voyager after I get the tiniest USB device I can find.  Since I 
have a
 small laptop, I don't want something big sticking out the side of it.  But 
Voyager
 is by far the best way to keep email with you no matter what machine you're on.


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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-30 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Achdut18,

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:36:37 -0500 GMT (31/03/2008, 04:36 +0700 GMT),
Achdut18 wrote:

DH Synchronisation is a three step process and so you don't want to be doing 
this on a
DH daily basis.

A Is it really that involved?

This is how I have been synchronising for years:

Each outgoing mail is BCC'ed to myself. This way, not only the
incoming but also the outgoing mails are on each computer on which I
check them.

TB! is on each computer is set to leave messages on the server, albeit
it is possible to set one computer to a number of days after which you
are sure that each PC has downloaded the mails. If you use each
computer every day (including weekends), then 2 days is enough.

BBC'ing to yourself was mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't
whether you saw this.

IMAP or webmail are no option for me due to unreliable and somewhat
slow internet connections. I need to have the mails on the computer
(or USB stick), and let POP or SMTP do their slow work in the
background.

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-29 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, March 29, 2008, 5:07:32 PM, Michael J. Sharp wrote:

 So please tell us how you got it working.

It has been working so long I have no memory of any fine tuning. If
you look at the beta archives from back when it was first being worked
on there I'm sure you will find some discussions about optimization.

I allow 4 connections. I don't synchronize, since that  seems to be
entirely unnecessary.

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-29 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Dwight,

Friday, March 28, 2008, 11:58:31 PM, you wrote:

DAC Better yet, switch to IMAP and leave POP behind. You'll be glad you 
DAC did.

Except of course when your provider has decided to stop offering IMAP :-)

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-29 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, March 29, 2008, 6:19:08 PM, Mark Partous wrote:

 Except of course when your provider has decided to stop offering
 IMAP :-)

I've been very satisfied with fastmail, and there are others out there
too, some even free.

your message caused me to look at my provider's email services. They
never mention IMAP in their entire documentation. 

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-28 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Guten Morgen,


SA 1. Install the new version of The Bat on both the laptop AND the desktop
SA (are two licenses needed?), but then set up the mail folder on the
SA desktop as a shared folder so that the laptop's The Bat will point to
SA folder on the desktop.  Is this possible?

Yes, I've been working like this for years. You can manage the
synchronization part using Window's Offline Folders. This way, if
you have downloaded mail with the Laptop disconnected, on returning
home you will get a prompt to copy the new files to the desktop or
vice versa. If the desktop version hasn't changed in the meantime the
synchronization will even be fully automatic.


SA 2.  Install the new version of The Bat on both the laptop AND the
SA desktop, but also copy all mail from the desktop to the laptop so that
SA both computers have all mail on their hard drives. Allow either machine
SA to download e-mail, but set up some sort of automatic synchronization
SA between the two machines.  Again, is this possible?  If so, how would it
SA be done?

Well, yes. You could use a program like Second Copy
(http://www.secondcopy.com) which could even run automatcally with as
few prompts as possible. However, it would be about the same as the
first option, just with a seperate program instead of Window's
built-in mechanism.


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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, March 28, 2008, 5:42:31 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote:

 Yes, I've been working like this for years. You can manage the
 synchronization part using Window's Offline Folders. This way, if
 you have downloaded mail with the Laptop disconnected, on returning
 home you will get a prompt to copy the new files to the desktop or
 vice versa. If the desktop version hasn't changed in the meantime
 the synchronization will even be fully automatic.

There is no reason why one cannot collect one's mail on both the 
laptop and the desktop. Saves lots of trouble. Just need to bcc 
yourself.  

Better yet, switch to IMAP and leave POP behind. You'll be glad you 
did.

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, March 28, 2008, 6:05:57 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote:

 Yes, there is: If you play it like this every time before you leave
 your home you have to power up the laptop, start TheBat, receive
 mail and shut it down. If you use the shared folder method you just
 have to switch the laptop on, let it work for a while and switch it
 off again to bring it up to speed with the desktop. This is much
 quicker and more convenient.

I collected mail on both for years without a problem. Just leave the 
mail on the server a few days, how many would depend on how often you 
use the laptop. It is not just quick and convenient, but totally 
transparent. 

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Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?

2008-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Friday, March 28, 2008, 6:05:57 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote:

 Avram spoke of going to v4. It would probably not be wise to do this
 while using IMAP.

don't see why not. works fine for me. 

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