Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:51:20 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 20:51 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: No. An unparked message can sit in the Outbox for days due to connection problems. Then it will suddenly be sent. Who is to know on which day? M Yes, of course. That is a quite common situation,

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:19:22 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 23:19 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: MM Netscape Messenger is an example having such feature, and it is quite MM simple, normal, and standard one. RO Actually, telling me that some other client has the same feature won't RO mean

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-27 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, So you support the wish? ;-) Not really. I don't mind if it is implemented for the benefit of others, but I have personally never felt the need in my 10+ years on the Internet. Maybe because I usually write my e-mail 2 or 3 days _after_ I should have done so and send them

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Gerard
ON Monday, October 25, 2004, 7:12:48 PM, you wrote: TF No, for sent messages, TB will not tell you when it was actually sent. TF I am missing that as well. Hi Thomas, If you select to display the sent date, which you can in the outbox view, it will show the create date (which is the saved date)

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, snipped No, the best way to keep track of when you sent your message is to BCC it to yourself. It'll have a Received: header from your ISP and it's the same as what you sent. Fully agree with all you say. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat!

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello WilWilWil, In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save it, I can't find a way to know the date and time I've sent it (sometimes 3 days after wrote it). If you keep a message in the Outbox for let's

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:21:24 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 13:21 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G If you select to display the sent date, which you can in the outbox view, G it will show the create date (which is the saved date) as the send date. G Maybe a small bug :-) Over here, the Created

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:04:09 +0200 GMT (26/10/2004, 16:04 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M If instead of unparking the message in the Outbox by clicking on the M parked flag you double click on on the message it will open in the M editor. Then, if you do send it from the editor the message's

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 26 Oct 2004, @ @ at 02:21:28 +0200, when Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Eric, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:10:13 +0100GMT (26-10-2004, 0:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 6MB A Wish

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, No. An unparked message can sit in the Outbox for days due to connection problems. Then it will suddenly be sent. Who is to know on which day? Yes, of course. That is a quite common situation, happens here several times a day ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mica, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:40:02 +0200GMT (26-10-2004, 13:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Mike Dillinger
Message from Roelof Otten on 10/25/04 05:21 PM PT quoted: I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be fulfilled. It would be a departure from the current way of thought behind TB. It would mean TB would change messages after/on sending them. TB's strongest feature until now is that it doesn't do

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo WilWilWil, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200GMT (25-10-2004, 0:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it W and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save W it, I can't find a way to know the date and time I've

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 26 Oct 2004, @ @ at 18:19:22 +0200, when Roelof Otten wrote: MM Netscape Messenger is an example having such feature, and it is quite MM simple, normal, and standard one.

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-26 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:32:14 +0200GMT (26-10-2004, 20:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PH Let me make a third suggestion: The best way to keep track about the PH date/time a message has actually been sent would be an addition to the PH database. TB must only

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Peter Hampf
Hello WilWilWil, (nice name :-) ) on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: W Is there an automatically way to add this date and time somewhere in the mail itself ? AFAIK there is no such method, but it is a nice and *useful* idea! I second that. What about another

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Oct 2004, @ @ at 00:11:22 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: Io, Oi. In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it and saved. But if I don't send the message

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi WilWilWil - On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, at 00:11:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 3:11 PM where I live) you wrote: Io, In the source of a message, I can see the date I've wrote it and saved. But if I don't send the message immediately, just save it, I can't

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Gerard
ON Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:02:28 PM, you wrote: KA I've had the same problem myself. Here in the U.S. many companies are KA required to retain copies of e-mails for a number of years with KA accurate header information. This is one (and not the only one) reason KA that has precluded us from

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gerard, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:38:36 +0200 GMT (25/10/2004, 21:38 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: G If you want to see the date, created or received/send, you can select to G display that. Just right-click in the part above the email text in the G pre-view window and select headers. No, for

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Oct 2004, @ @ at 17:36:41 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote: Nice. But I'm a little afraid with a such technical solution for a poor rookie IT user like me... The aspiration of

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread MFPA
Hi On Monday, 25 October, 2004, at 1:02:12 PM, Peter Hampf wrote: What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 Or perhaps x-sentdate: as TB probably has no way of knowing when it will be delivered. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello WilWilWil! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:57 PM, you wrote: W ;-) I think you're wright and I mean it's not the worst virus I W could catch with IT ! W Let's go and try X-Ray ! Good for you, WilWilWil! In the meantime, the RitLabs development team is in the process of making

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Eric
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:03:16 -0500 GMT(25/10/2004, 23:03 + GMT), Mary Bull wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. I'd support it. -- Eric Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Eric! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 5:10 PM, you wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. E I'd support it. I'd need some knowledgeable people to help me word it. I'm such a novice at these things.

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Peter! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? PH by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it PH :) I'm ready to put a BT Wish, if someone will help me word it clearly. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 25 Oct 2004, @ @ at 17:54:03 -0500, when Mary Bull wrote: Hello Peter! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? PH by

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Eric, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:10:13 +0100GMT (26-10-2004, 0:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it would be MB useful. E I'd support it. I'd be very surprised if such a wish would be

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread MFPA
Hi On Monday, 25 October, 2004, at 10:23:15 PM, Peter Hampf wrote: that's a case of definition. When TB sents the message to the host defined in the account settings, it has *delivered* the mail. The SMTP host defined in my account settings is localhost. I would say a message is not

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Bill McQuillan
On Mon, 2004-10-25, Peter Hampf wrote: Good evening MFPA, on Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:41:48 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote: What about another kludge X-Deliverydate: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:11:22 +0200 M Or perhaps x-sentdate: as TB probably has no way of knowing when M it will be delivered.

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mica! On Monday, October 25, 2004, 7:08 PM, you wrote: W How to make this kludge automatically ? PH by asking Max or 9Val or another developer to add support for it PH :) MB I'm ready to put a BT Wish, if someone will help me word it clearly. MM Perhaps like this: MM Dear gentlemen,

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread Chris
Roelof Otten @ 2004-Oct-25 8:21:28 PM Date of a sent message ? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo Eric, On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:10:13 +0100GMT (26-10-2004, 0:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: 6MB A Wish could be placed at Bug Track for this extra MB kludge if enough people here thought that it

Re: Date of a sent message ?

2004-10-25 Thread David Pascoe
On Tuesday, 26 October 2004, at 00:12:48 [GMT +0700] you wrote: TF No, for sent messages, TB will not tell you when it was actually sent. TF I am missing that as well. that sounds like a job for the MTA, not the MUA. even on incoming messages, it will be the MTA that will fill all the Received: