Re: Templates Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rev., On 12 October 2000 at 06:24:12 GMT -0500 (which was 12:24 where I live) Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen wrote and made these points on the subject of "Templates Help": RBBC (a) it hides things from you and RBBC (b) it s with your email. MODERATOR Sorry but I have to "ahem" you here. Although you originally blanked the vowel in the expletive it was still clear which expletive was used. That makes it an infringement of the profanity rules of this list and I must ask you to confine yourself to phrases like "messes with" - we'll still know what you mean ;-). /MODERATOR - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: Cyanide is so poisonous that one drop of it on a dogs tongue will kill the strongest man. TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOeXJ+TnkJKuSnc2gEQIxnACfRXN+IXvNl0jsjgEdghYtzshSyFEAn3Z1 Qt+sevJUpmKYMI7+x852B9g9 =H475 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Rev.! On Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 1:24:12 PM you wrote: Oops -- one more thing where TB! thinks it knows better than you do. If you format a paragraph in TB! and you've used two spaces after the period (like most Americans were taught in typing class), TB! turns it into a single space. Well, I've got news for you, TB! developers -- it shouldn't matter whether I've put one or two or fifteen spaces after a period. That's none of your business. Well, I never understood this double space behaviour in American texts I got, now you tell me ... Can you even tell me *why* you were taught this way? Europeans usually make one, maybe a sign of parsimony?! ;-) - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.46d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C To live is like to love all reason is against it and all healthy instinct for it. (Samuel Butler) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Actual version 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBOeXqqfTo1oA8g8dLEQJe+gCeIcy/bqzaejmuqB9RvxlVqRg4w5MAn0ST GKXhg50Z9xP1C4ryXtLGg9Iu =bQbD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:45:17 +0200 Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dierk Well, I never understood this double space behaviour in American texts I Dierk got, now you tell me ... Can you even tell me *why* you were taught this Dierk way? Europeans usually make one, maybe a sign of parsimony?! ;-) Dierk Dierk - -- Dierk Dierk Haasis That's interesting Dierk, seriously. At school, when I did my typing classes, I was taught to insert two spaces. I'm in the UK (which despite some opinions from across the Channel is part of Europe). In those far off days (before The Beatles had first started recording!) there were no PCs in schools, so I cannot say if things have changed today. Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: To get my keys send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOeX/0C7i2PqZ2xC9EQI94ACgsP6QH4Vdm4q3DDfjjocXw+2aOTUAoIM6 q9TxEoc9a68r1/OANLuHzmqi =1Lnx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
Hallo Graham, On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:15:50 +0100 GMT (13/10/2000, 02:15 +0800 GMT), Graham wrote: G At school, when I did my typing classes, I was taught to insert two spaces. G I'm in the UK (which despite some opinions from across the Channel is part G of Europe). Well, "we" have no problem with it, aren't *you* the ones that are referring to Europe as "The Continent", making it clear that there is a difference? I wouldn't even mention the currency... (Disclaimer: I'm kidding here. Best regards from the Far East.) G In those far off days (before The Beatles had first started G recording!) there were no PCs in schools, so I cannot say if things have G changed today. You beat me here. I took my typing classes when I was 13 (and all the secretaries in the class found me "cute"), but that was just before bell-buttom pants became fashion. ;-) And while we didn't have PC's at school as they hadn't been invented yet, we did have computer classes on a mainframe, being the first school in Hamburg to offer computer classes... -- Cheers, Thomas, originally from Germany/Europe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -I'd like to help you out. Which way did you come in? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 8:34:15 PM you wrote: G In those far off days (before The Beatles had first started G recording!) there were no PCs in schools, so I cannot say if things have G changed today. You beat me here. I took my typing classes when I was 13 (and all the secretaries in the class found me "cute"), but that was just before bell-buttom pants became fashion. ;-) And while we didn't have PC's at school as they hadn't been invented yet, we did have computer classes on a mainframe, being the first school in Hamburg to offer computer classes... Well, when I started typing - and learning about typography (???) - it was on a typewriter, about 25 years ago. where there any computers back then, in the stone age? ;-) To get serious again, I just wanted to know *why* to insert two spaces. It is against the basic rule in typesetting I learned, which is not much and was in the time when lead was still used. PS: Thomas, we seem to be from the same town, but I am still living here in one of Germany's most beautiful cities - Hamburg. Could be that I move in about one or two years, exploring the Wild, Wild East - in another beautiful place (Leipzig). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.46d Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I learn each day what I need to know to do tomorrow's work. (Arnold Toynbee) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Actual version 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBOeYdt/To1oA8g8dLEQLG8gCgkbb3gtquwpeWoYOW8f9PeW/akGYAn0Kj 7X0rxfeeHB6DvsQr/NUMAOTq =KcKy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rev., On 12 October 2000 at 16:36:09 GMT -0500 (which was 22:36 where I live) Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen wrote and made these points on the subject of "Templates Help": RBBC Re the "ahem": could I say that TB! f-rn-c-tes with my text? Yes ... but don't make a dirty habit of it g (I still prefer "messes" or even "*@$!$@" in this forum). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Headline - Bank Drive-in Window Blocked by Board TB! v1.47 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOeYzjTnkJKuSnc2gEQLwgwCgxzUsxCQXXddQ2UL2giejH2ZzgVEAoIWZ 8cGahkMo4ZyZi3Tn5TJZkXXe =fIAu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
Hello Rev., On Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 06:24:12 GMT -0500 (which was 4:24 AM where I live) witnesses say Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen typed: TB! has just one case where it does this: it fails to display the extra space after the sigdash. While I agree that it is a nuisance how would you propose for it to be viewed? White space is supposed to be invisible... Oops -- one more thing where TB! thinks it knows better than you do. If you format a paragraph in TB! and you've used two spaces after the period (like most Americans were taught in typing class), TB! turns it into a single space. That only happens if you use the Alt-L reformat option (and its right justify and full justify siblings). I think the main reason for this is the Alt-L engine is designed to handle switching between the different justified modes. So you may not have entered all those extra spaces. Since the editor shows you *exactly* what is going to be sent, there is no way for it to distinguish manually entered spaces and justification entered spaces. This is the same logic that forces the auto-format option to require a blank line between paragraphs. I'm not debating the merit of this decision, simply pointing out the logic behind it. If you notice I use the double space between sentences as well. I always thought the double space was to distinguish between periods that end a sentence and periods that end an abbreviation. For example: Dr. Smith was in today. He answered my question quickly. ^^ ^^^ Not a new New sentencesentence If you use Auto-Format instead of Alt-L, the re-spacing will not occur. This paragraph was written with right justify set. I then added a word with auto-format. It seems auto-format removed the right justified settings. However, note it did not remove the indent at the beginning of the paragraph. I did not put that there manually. I don't want to start the editor holy wars Marck once alluded to, I just wanted to clarify TB's current functionality. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
The bat of happiness fluttered its wings and whispered to me that David Bevington said on Wednesday, October 11, 2000: Hello TBUDL, As I await (nervously) either notification that my payment has been received in the States or my trial period finishes, I sit and wonder how people make some wonderful opening lines to their replies. I really have no idea, it just appears there! ;-) Create an address book entry for the person or list you're interested in, right mouse on the entry, select "Properties" and under Reply put some custom template data. e.g., The bat of happiness fluttered its wings and whispered to me that %OFROMNAME said on %ODATE: %QUOTES %Cursor -- %INCLUDE="D:\Net\TheBat\Sigs\random.txt" I also wonder if the templates could be modified to include all names in the greeting. Check through your macros and see if you find any likely suspects. One thing, though -- if you have to reply to all to reply to a list (it's the default that the RFC recommends), you have to delete the name in the To: line, and cut and paste the name in the Cc: line and paste that to the To: line. Do that *before* you do any typing inside the message. [snip] Funnily enough, once I had committed payment I began to doubt. Company standard is Pegasus (which i don't like), but should I have tried Calypso? or Poco? Actually this list and its KB put my mind at ease. With any luck, I might get to grips with its huge feature set before v2 is released. Well, this is just personal opinion, and worth what you paid for it, but my impression of Calypso is that the authors looked at Microsoft Exchange client and actually liked it. Since Exchange client is a truly appalling piece of sh^H^Hsoftware, it didn't take long for me to scrub every remnant of Calypso off my hard drive. -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen crispen at hiwaay dot net The more people I meet, the more I like my dog -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:31:51 -0500 "Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rev. Funnily enough, once I had committed payment I began to doubt. Company Rev. standard is Pegasus (which i don't like), but should I have tried Rev. Calypso? or Poco? Actually this list and its KB put my mind at ease. Rev. With any luck, I might get to grips with its huge feature set before Rev. v2 is released. Rev. Rev. Well, this is just personal opinion, and worth what you paid for it, Rev. but my impression of Calypso is that the authors looked at Microsoft Rev. Exchange client and actually liked it. Quite possibly. I like it too. Rev. Since Exchange client is a truly appalling piece of sh^H^Hsoftware, it Rev. didn't take long for me to scrub every remnant of Calypso off my hard Rev. drive. That's your opinion. There is much in Calypso that I like, and somethings I don't. The same is true of The Bat. But it wasn't clear if David Bevington was asking about a program for his Company, or for private use. Calypso works well on laptops and also for personal use, but its not really suitable for company use IMO. The Bat is better for that. Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: To get my keys send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBOeTSai7i2PqZ2xC9EQLjqACfXbNE3dECHWwGXjf55Fw0xqwf/wcAoKtc RgQnZ7cwBHd91cFmcDKnhrmJ =uRig -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
