Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Adrian Godfrey]

Tuesday, July 26, 2016, 12:53:16 AM, you wrote:

> They only use it if a fraudulent log-in was suspected. I'm not
> saying it's a great idea, but it's not a big problem over here.
> Happenes maybe twice a year, and I change IP addresses several times
> per month.

It's  a  pain  in  Europe  where  your  IP address can be in different
countries.  Admittedly a VPN would fix that, but not always practical,
for  example  a  3G wireless (or even with an Ethernet cable)  router  or USB 
stick rather than a fixed line DSL
connection.

If  you  are  getting mail to the recovery address, I need to find out
why that isn't happening for myself.

I  don't  use email on my Android phone or tablet, but they seem to be immune,
i.e.  no  notifications  when  the  IP  address changes to a different
country

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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Adrian,

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 17:00:21 +0200 GMT (25-Jul-16, 22:00 +0700 GMT),
Adrian Godfrey wrote:

> Monday, July 25, 2016, 3:02:14 PM, you wrote:

>>> Gmail  breaks  email clients every time you change your IP address.

>> Not true, I use Gmail on the laptop that I travel with. I rarely get
>> it blocked, but if it happens I am informed that web login is required.

> That  is  definitely  breaking  an email client. Why should we need to
> start a web browser at all having set up Gmail to use POP?

They only use it if a fraudulent log-in was suspected. I'm not
saying it's a great idea, but it's not a big problem over here.
Happenes maybe twice a year, and I change IP addresses several times
per month.

> And  what  is  the  point  of  sending  that error message to an email
> address   that   Gmail  blocks  your  email  client  from reading? Why
> doesn't it use the recovery address or send an SMS?

As mentioned, they do send this to my other, non-Gmail address.

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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, July 25, 2016, 3:02:14 PM, you wrote:

>> Gmail  breaks  email clients every time you change your IP address.

> Not true, I use Gmail on the laptop that I travel with. I rarely get
> it blocked, but if it happens I am informed that web login is required.

That  is  definitely  breaking  an email client. Why should we need to
start a web browser at all having set up Gmail to use POP?

And  what  is  the  point  of  sending  that error message to an email
address   that   Gmail  blocks  your  email  client  from reading? Why
doesn't it use the recovery address or send an SMS?  The Bat at
least  has  an account log, but not all email clients do or are not as
easy to find.

Adrian



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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[MAU]

Hello Leonard,

> I am confident that the password is correct.
>
> What else can be the problem.

Just  in  case, take a look at this page (Allowing less secure apps to
access your account):

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

I had to use it recently for one of my less used accounts.


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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Adrian,

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:07:08 +0200 GMT (25-Jul-16, 18:07 +0700 GMT),
Adrian Godfrey wrote:

> Monday, July 25, 2016, 12:52:21 PM, you wrote:

>> Otherwise, Gmail and Yahoo both from time to time randomly disable POP
>> and/or SMTP on an account and you have to log into their web interface
>> to fix it.

> Gmail  breaks  email clients every time you change your IP address.

Not true, I use Gmail on the laptop that I travel with. I rarely get
it blocked, but if it happens I am informed that web login is required.

> It doesn't even send an email to the recovery email address about
> this.

I receive the "web login required" email always on my recovery email
address.

> When  you  by  chance find the "web login required" in the error logs,
> there  are  actually mails sent to the address it won't let you access
> with  your  email  client  telling  you  it has been blocked! These of
> course  don't start arriving in your email client until after that web
> login!

They send the message to the Gmail address too.

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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, July 25, 2016, 12:52:21 PM, you wrote:

> Otherwise, Gmail and Yahoo both from time to time randomly disable POP
> and/or SMTP on an account and you have to log into their web interface
> to fix it.

Gmail  breaks  email clients every time you change your IP address. It
doesn't even send an email to the recovery email address about this.
When  you  by  chance find the "web login required" in the error logs,
there  are  actually mails sent to the address it won't let you access
with  your  email  client  telling  you  it has been blocked! These of
course  don't start arriving in your email client until after that web
login!

Adrian



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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 23 July 2016 at 11:30:04 PM, in
, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote:


> My account is working. It is my wife's Gmail account
> that is not

> working

[snipped]

> I am confident that the password is correct.

> What else can be the problem.


If there is any difference between your Gmail account settings in TB! 
and your wife's, apart from usernames and passwords, that would 
perhaps explain it. 

Otherwise, Gmail and Yahoo both from time to time randomly disable POP
and/or SMTP on an account and you have to log into their web interface
to fix it.





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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Leonard S. Berkowitz]

On Saturday, July 23, 2016, 11:33:47 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

> no, it's IPv6

What is IPv6? Internet Protocol v. 6?
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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Anton,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 08:33:47 +0500 GMT (24-Jul-16, 10:33 +0700 GMT),
Anton Belenki wrote:

>>>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - receiving mail messages
>>>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server pop.gmail.com on 
>>> port 995
>>>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - Couldn't connect to 2607:f8b0:4003:c0d::6c 
>>> trying subsequent addresses...
>> [...]
>>
>> It looks like it's trying to connect to a MAC address rather than an
>> IP address... ??

> no, it's IPv6.

OK, thanks. But still, I can connect to Gmail with TB!, he cannot. So
I have no idea what the problem is.

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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Anton Belenki]

>>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - receiving mail messages
>>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server pop.gmail.com on 
>> port 995
>>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - Couldn't connect to 2607:f8b0:4003:c0d::6c 
>> trying subsequent addresses...
> [...]
>
> It looks like it's trying to connect to a MAC address rather than an
> IP address... ??

no, it's IPv6.

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Re: Trouble connecting to Gmail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Leonard,

On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:30:04 -0400 GMT (24-Jul-16, 05:30 +0700 GMT),
Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote:

> My account is working. It is my wife's Gmail account that is not
> working

> Log reports (with port 995 setting)

>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - receiving mail messages
>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server pop.gmail.com on port 
> 995
>  7/23/2016, 18:24:29: FETCH - Couldn't connect to 2607:f8b0:4003:c0d::6c 
> trying subsequent addresses...
[...]

It looks like it's trying to connect to a MAC address rather than an
IP address... ??

Here is my log:

 24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server pop.gmail.com on port 
995
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake
>24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 12F0FCE663694918, algorithm: RSA 
>(2048 bits), issued from 13-Jul-16 13:18:33 to 05-Oct-16 13:16:00, for 1 
>host(s): pop.gmail.com.
>24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - Owner: "US", "California", "Mountain View", 
>"Google Inc", "pop.gmail.com".
>24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - Issuer: "US", "Google Inc", "Google Internet 
>Authority G2". Valid from 01-Apr-15 to 31-Dec-17 23:59:59.
>24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - Root: "US", "GeoTrust Inc.", "GeoTrust Global 
>CA". Valid from 21-May-02 04:00:00 to 21-May-22 04:00:00.
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:38: FETCH - TLS handshake complete
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:39: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:39: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:40: FETCH - 33 messages in the mailbox, 0 new
 24-Jul-16, 10:20:40: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received


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