On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Arthur Reutenauer
arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org wrote:
Taking Waluyo off the discussion, as it does not seem necessary to
involve him in this issue that needs to be addressed by the developers.
To Arthur and Mojca regarding why do I expect bahasa to work
Dear All,
Actually Bahasa is not synonym of Indonesian language.
The OFFICIAL language used in Indonesia is Bahasa Indonesia or in
English Indonesian
The OFFICIAL language used in Malaysia is Bahasa Melayu or in English
Malay
The word Bahasa in Bahasa Indonesia means language
Since there
My question would be: why do you expect bahasa to work at all? It
is at best ambiguous, as it could also mean Bahasa Malaysia, already
supported by both Babel and Polyglossia (and as Mojca points out, many
other languages can use Bahasa in their names too).
Arthur
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
My question would be: why do you expect bahasa to work at all? It
is at best ambiguous, as it could also mean Bahasa Malaysia, already
supported by both Babel and Polyglossia (and as Mojca points out, many
other languages can use Bahasa in their names too).
The
Yes, from the point of view of historical phonology, bahasa is derivable
from Sanskrit bhāṣā (=भाषा) or perhaps Pali bhāsā (भासा). From the eighth
century on, Buddhism and Brahmanical religion were a strong influence in
the Indonesian islands, right up to the time of the widespread
establishment
. November 2013 um 13:40 Uhr
Von:Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org
An:About TeX hyphenation patterns. tex-hyphen@tug.org
Betreff:Re: [tex-hyphen] should bahasa be a synonym for Indonesian?
My question would be: why do you expect bahasa to work at all? It
is at best ambiguous
The Universe of Discourse is the names of languages, not the set of
English nouns.
Yes, and bahasa is not the name of a language. As Khaled pointed
out, it is almost the exact equivalent of extracting the word language
out of the phrase English language, and expect things to work.
On 27/11/13 14:30, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
The Universe of Discourse is the names of languages, not the set of
English nouns.
Yes, and bahasa is not the name of a language.
Actually, it may be. Yes, it is clearly a Malay word (derived from
Sanskrit or Pali or whatever...) meaning
Jonathan Kew wrote:
Actually, it may be. Yes, it is clearly a Malay word (derived from
Sanskrit or Pali or whatever...) meaning language, but in English it
can be used by itself as a language name. As the Oxford English
Dictionary defines it:[1]
Bahasa, n. The variety of Malay used as
On 27/11/13 15:01, Philip Taylor wrote:
Jonathan Kew wrote:
Actually, it may be. Yes, it is clearly a Malay word (derived from
Sanskrit or Pali or whatever...) meaning language, but in English it
can be used by itself as a language name. As the Oxford English
Dictionary defines it:[1]
Had you said that in the first place, rather than the very
confrontational 'why do you expect bahasa to work at all ?'
This was not intended to be confrontational. I really would like to
know the answer to that question, as it is important to understand what
users expect from TeX's language
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
Compiling the attached document gives the following error on TeX Live 2013:
luatex-hyphen: no entry in language.dat.lua for this language: bahasa
If you ask an Indonesian what language s/he speaks, s/he'll answer Bahasa
Indonesia. I believe. Can we check? I'm remember a trip there in 1984.
But if I'm right, then that kind of evidence should count strongly for
identifying it as a proper noun phrase.
Dominik
On 27/11/13 19:21, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
Finally, on the question about discrimination, I understand that
assuming bahasa to mean Indonesian could be discriminatory,
I wouldn't use the term discriminatory about this; rather, I'd just
say it might be potentially ambiguous.
but
couldn't
Jonathan Kew wrote:
On 27/11/13 19:21, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
There appear to be 742 languages of Indonesia
[1]. Are those languages not Indonesian?
While there are many hundreds of other languages spoken in Indonesia
(see also http://www.ethnologue.com/country/ID/languages), which
Taking Waluyo off the discussion, as it does not seem necessary to
involve him in this issue that needs to be addressed by the developers.
To Arthur and Mojca regarding why do I expect bahasa to work at all
I expected this to work because it works with Babel and because when I
select
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
Compiling the attached document gives the following error on TeX Live 2013:
luatex-hyphen: no entry in language.dat.lua for this language: bahasa
After changing the language to indonesian, it compiles fine.
Should
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
Compiling the attached document gives the following error on TeX Live 2013:
luatex-hyphen: no entry in language.dat.lua for this language: bahasa
After changing the language to indonesian, it compiles fine.
Should bahasa be a synonym
Compiling the attached document gives the following error on TeX Live 2013:
luatex-hyphen: no entry in language.dat.lua for this language: bahasa
After changing the language to indonesian, it compiles fine.
Should bahasa be a synonym for indonesian?
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