[ot_caving] speleo-vehicle upgrade

2008-05-21 Thread David
Imagine a couple of these mounted on your front bumper and roof-rack and rear cab. http://www.todaystrucking.com/products.cfm?intDocID=19641 http://todaystrucking.com/images/usr_210508034822_TruckLiteLEDWorkLamp_crop250.jpg

[ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread David
Would you believe gas prices are probably going to jump a penny or two today or tomorrow in time for Memorial Day? Imagine what is going to happen if a Category 5 hurricane enters the Gulf of Mexico this summer? Or if terrorist make a major strike on an oil facility? Or if violence in the

RE: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread mark . alman
You forgot to ask what would happen if Obama wins, David, which IMHO, I believe he will. Prices will probably go down, as they'll expect Congress and a new president, both Democrat controlled, to look into things. Not that they'll do anything, but, they will look into it. My best guess is

Re: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Don Cooper
Another thing which ISNT being done You can make petroleum out of COAL for about $40 a barrel. Screw ethanol and making diesel out of soybeans! There's a LOT of coal out there - why are we being raped at the gas pump?!?! And while you probably cannot directly pin the world price of oil on

RE: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Louise Power
Just my personal opinion, but I don't think gas is going down at all...whoever wins. The oil producing companies...both saudi and south american...are not going to increase production. And we just keep guzzling it down. Law of supply and demand here! I don't know what you guys are paying now,

Re: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Don Cooper
Agreed on supply vs demand. Consumption has hardly slowed down with the price. A boycott on gasoline would certainly turn the price back. But like THAT is going to happen! -WaV On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Just my personal opinion, but I don't

RE: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Fritz Holt
Blame the environmentalist for fighting the use of our vast US coal resources. I presume that they would prefer high gasoline prices. Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:39 AM To: mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: OT Texas

RE: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Fritz Holt
A boycott of the duration to make OPEC take notice is most unlikely as it would bring the US to a standstill. Fritz From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:46 AM To: Louise Power Cc: OT Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [ot_caving]

Re: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread David
Imagine if your neighborhood only had one or two gas stations and that they were closed on Sunday and they only had one pump for 2 lanes of traffic. That is the way I remember the early 70's gas crisis. Back then, I could have never imagined a RaceTrack Gas Station with 24 pumps, nor one where

RE: [ot_caving] gas prices

2008-05-21 Thread Fritz Holt
If any establishment was closed for one day of the week, as many are, consumers would allow for this and plan for it. It could cause an inconvenience on road trips. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:08 PM To:

[ot_caving] investment tip

2008-05-21 Thread David
If I had some extra money to invest in the stock market, I would be putting it into companies that are in the LED light business: Nasdaq: CREE http://www.primenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=140623 LED's will eventually replace all the street lighting in the world. and security lights

[Texascavers] A Reminder --- Deep and Punkin trip over the May 30 weekend

2008-05-21 Thread J. Auto
** Just a reminder of the Deep and Punkin trip Note: forwarded message attached. ---BeginMessage--- DEEP PUNKIN PRESERVE: Announcing an opportunity to be a part of an enduring, long-lasting edifice for cavers long into the future. The TCMA is in need of help, skilled and

[ot_caving] hybrid car news

2008-05-21 Thread David
Honda confirmed today that late next year the Honda Fit will be arriving in the showrooms with a hybrid model. President Fukui also indicated that 2 other hybrid models would be available - a sport performance car and along with the 2nd generation of the hybrid Civic. He said for certain that

RE: [ot_caving] hybrid car news

2008-05-21 Thread Fritz Holt
Speaking of my favorite brand of foreign automobile, while I haven't checked the fuel efficiency or if an optional engine is available, the new Honda CRV sport utility is about the slickest looking vehicle of its kind. Believe it or not, while possibly a bit larger, the new Saturn Vue SUV is

[ot_caving] Fw: Re:: coal

2008-05-21 Thread quinta
First think if the following items will go up in price if you do this. Coal, a combustible organic rock composed primarily of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Coal is burned to produce energy and is used to manufacture steel. It is also an important source of chemicals used to make medicine,

[Texascavers] Paging Don Auburn

2008-05-21 Thread wesley s
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[ot_caving] Another LED success story

2008-05-21 Thread Louise Power
In an e-mail to Jim Conrad the other day, I was telling him about an organization I have just discovered that is providing LED light to rural areas in third world nations through small solar collectors for just a small amount of investment on their part. I saw something about it on Good

RE: [ot_caving] Another LED success story

2008-05-21 Thread Fritz Holt
Fifty dollars is indeed a lot of money to some of our neighbors south of the border but pales in comparison to the thousands that many pay to reach the land of opportunity. Fritz From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Re: [ot_caving] Another LED success story

2008-05-21 Thread Don Cooper
Light up Mexico. GREAT. 'Adequate lighting' is a term that's about as subjective as you can get... Now the brilliant star sprayed skies of Mexico can be just as shitty with sky glow as they are here... I don't have anything against necessity - but when do they decide everything just has to be

Re: [ot_caving] Another LED success story

2008-05-21 Thread Bill Bentley-Webmail
Who is /_THEY_/? Bill Quoting Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com: Light up Mexico. GREAT. 'Adequate lighting' is a term that's about as subjective as you can get... Now the brilliant star sprayed skies of Mexico can be just as shitty with sky glow as they are here... I don't have anything

RE: [ot_caving] Another LED success story

2008-05-21 Thread Louise Power
Wavy, Did you even bother to look at the site? This has nothing to do with urban commercial lighting. It has to do with people having safe, inexpensive, longlasting lighting in their homes. Not smoky, dangerous, polluting kerosene lamps, as is often the case. Maybe I wasn't clear in my

[Texascavers] OT- Caving Vehicle For Sale

2008-05-21 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
I'm selling my 4WD truck. http://austin.craigslist.org/car/690088294.html It has been a great vehicle and I'm sure it will keep on pleasing for another couple hundred thousand miles or so. It actually gets decent mileage (16-21 mpg depending your right foot and road conditions) and is a great

[Texascavers] Paging Kara Savvas

2008-05-21 Thread Johnson, Russ (ATX)
Please shoot me an email Kara. Russ COMPANY CONFIDENTIAL: This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is company confidential and proprietary. Disclosure or use of any such information without the written permission of Weston Solutions, Inc. is strictly prohibited. If you

[ot_caving] the presidential election

2008-05-21 Thread David
The campaign to the White house WASTE millions of dollars if you add up all the candidates and put them together. Yet in 1 short span of a few hours 98 million American's selected the best of 2 American Idols and in doing so, generated millions of dollars in income to our economy. Let's fix

[ot_caving] Rising gas prices part 2

2008-05-21 Thread David
A few hours ago, I posted another prediction about gas prices. Man, was I wrong. My neighborhood pump jumped up 11 cents since I sent that e-mail. What is up with that? I wish I had bought a re-cumbent bicycle back when they were still affordable. Have you seen the recent prices of bicycles?

[ot_caving] $133.17

2008-05-21 Thread David
Oil closes over 133 dollars. That is frickin crazy. I remember the first time I saw the gas station sign of gas over $ 2 a gallon. I took a photograph of that thinking it was an important event in my life. What was that, about 2 years ago?? Imagine if all the farmers in the world got

[Texascavers] Diabetic describes ordeal in NSW cave

2008-05-21 Thread Darla
Did everyone see this article? How embarrassing. This guy is the vice-president of the Sydney Speleological Society. Seeing this article reminded me of the advertisement in the June Outside Magazine with Aron Ralston quoted at saying, I still climb solo, only now I carry a PLB backup by my

[ot_caving] job opportunity

2008-05-21 Thread David
The company I work for is accepting applications for someone with the following skills: MicroSoft Access Expert General computer skills ( Word and Excel ) Excellent phone communication skills Knowledge of machinery and chemical plants Job function: Schedule technicians to go to chemical