[SWR] Fw: [NMAM-L] FW: lecture at Natural History Museum

2013-06-18 Thread Lynda James Sánchez
fyi. Lynda From: Aubele, Jayne, DCA Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:21 AM To: nma...@list.unm.edu Subject: [NMAM-L] FW: lecture at Natural History Museum Voices in Science Lecture Titanic: A Personal and Scientific Journey Penny Boston, Ph.D., Professor of Cave and Karst Science,

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 17:05:33 -0000 Issue 1777

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 17:05:33 - Issue 1777 Topics (messages 21957 through 21966): Re: Ben Hutchins 21957 by: Ben Hutchins Re: Remembering 21958 by: Louise Power 21963 by: Mimi Jasek Re: Bob Cowell 21959 by: Tom F 21960 by: James Jasek

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 19:17:47 -0000 Issue 1778

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 19:17:47 - Issue 1778 Topics (messages 21967 through 21970): Re: Remembering Palmito 21967 by: Logan McNatt 21968 by: Nico Escamilla Re: Remembering 21969 by: Louise Power Re: a tale from the old days of Texas cavers 21970 by:

Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Gill Edigar
Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky Mexican-type natural progression from a totally wild, ask nobody for permission, do whatever

Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Nico Escamilla
Amen brother Gill El martes, 18 de junio de 2013, Gill Edigar escribió: Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky Mexican-type

[Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Denise P
Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for TCR ths year? I see both October 17 - 20 and 18 - 21 in various places. Is Thursday going to be added this year to the event? It's usually just Friday through Sunday, right? Thanks, Denise

Re: [Texascavers] Bustamante

2013-06-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hello Friends. the Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleología, (Coahuila) start to work in a new project in Grutas del Palmito Bustamante for the next 3 years... march 2013-2015. We start the investigation in a new areas of the cave that we find... Orion Knox help us with information, maps and

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
Here's a side view. I have the story somewhere and shall find it. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Ted Samsel t.b.sam...@gmail.com wrote: I was there too, with my chicken suit that I was commissioned to fabricate by Guich, via Igor Loving. I'll tell the story after other folks recall it.

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
Here's the story: I was contracted by Guich Koock to build a *GIANT CHICKEN SUIT* for the 2nd Annual Luckenbach World's Fair which took place at the Gillespie County Fairgrounds. This is in Fredericksburg, TX. Well, since chickens have orange legs, I wore orange pantyhose with big old foam

texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 00:56:33 -0000 Issue 1780

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 00:56:33 - Issue 1780 Topics (messages 21983 through 21991): Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving 21983 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 21984 by: Don Arburn 21985 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 21989 by: Don Arburn Re: Remembering

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don.  Sounds as if you are correct as far as any pul l-off contest is concerned.  I should have come over and admired Moby when we were together in Brackettville a couple of April Fools ago I must also admit that this is not

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
Mebbe “Crash” Kennedy? -S. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:16 PM To: Cave NM; Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving Know of anyone out there that might be interested? This is definitely a great bargain

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
The name Moby is taken. And Moby ain't fer sale. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Mebbe “Crash” Kennedy? -S. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:16 PM To: Cave NM; Cave

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper' truck is. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: The name Moby is taken. And Moby ain't fer sale. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Stefan Creaser

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Don, your truck eats other trucks for breakfast. That Suburban has to wait until dinner. From: Don Arburn Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:39 PM To: TSA Cavers List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper'

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Butch Fralia (CAVEDBA)
That's similar to my 1988 'burb 3/4 ton 4x4. Mine was a RV Special, special ordered from the factory with all heavy duty options. Ever two years the previous owner (owned a construction company) bought his wife a new caddy and bought custom ordered a new suburban for himself. Big car lots

[Texascavers] Suburbans

2013-06-18 Thread Mixon Bill
I owned serial Suburbans back in the day, starting back when they were actually trucks and not all tricked out like rolling whorehouses with headliners and the like. There was actually metal on the interior that you could screw stuff to. My first one had only three doors, two on the curb

Re: [Texascavers] Suburbans

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
Like Bill, I have been driving two Tortugas that many of you know.  The first was a 59 1/2 ton I bought in 1961 , the second the 3/4 ton with a one-ton front axel that Ken Laidlaw bought new. When he got tired of his Big Toy, I bought it and put it to Real Work . I ended up after 30 years

[Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly. -Don - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-18 Thread Bill Steele
GGG Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly. -Don

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Remembering Palmito

2013-06-18 Thread Logan McNatt
Very true retrospective, Carl. Thanks. On 6/18/2013 12:05 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Mimi: Palmito has made a lasting impression on many of us. Your story reminds me that it is now just a few days past 50 years ago that I went to Bustamante and Gruta del Palmito for the first time with Bill Gray

[SWR] Fw: [NMAM-L] FW: lecture at Natural History Museum

2013-06-18 Thread Lynda James Sánchez
fyi. Lynda From: Aubele, Jayne, DCA Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:21 AM To: nma...@list.unm.edu Subject: [NMAM-L] FW: lecture at Natural History Museum Voices in Science Lecture Titanic: A Personal and Scientific Journey Penny Boston, Ph.D., Professor of Cave and Karst Science,

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 17:05:33 -0000 Issue 1777

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 17:05:33 - Issue 1777 Topics (messages 21957 through 21966): Re: Ben Hutchins 21957 by: Ben Hutchins Re: Remembering 21958 by: Louise Power 21963 by: Mimi Jasek Re: Bob Cowell 21959 by: Tom F 21960 by: James Jasek

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 19:17:47 -0000 Issue 1778

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 19:17:47 - Issue 1778 Topics (messages 21967 through 21970): Re: Remembering Palmito 21967 by: Logan McNatt 21968 by: Nico Escamilla Re: Remembering 21969 by: Louise Power Re: a tale from the old days of Texas cavers 21970 by:

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 23:46:53 -0000 Issue 1779

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 23:46:53 - Issue 1779 Topics (messages 21971 through 21982): Re: Remembering 21971 by: Gill Edigar 21973 by: Nico Escamilla TCR Dates 21972 by: Denise P 21974 by: Stefan Creaser 21975 by: Jim Kennedy 21976 by:

RE: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Louise Power
Mimi, I remember one of my first trips down there. I think Orion was the trip leader, but I'm not sure who else was there. We had just started down from the entrance on the breakdown slope when way off in the distance we kept hearing somebody calling Luz, Luz. So we all shown our lights

Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Gill Edigar
Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky Mexican-type natural progression from a totally wild, ask nobody for permission, do whatever

Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Nico Escamilla
Amen brother Gill El martes, 18 de junio de 2013, Gill Edigar escribió: Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky Mexican-type

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Albach
Nice timing on this thread so close to Father's Day. My first cave was Gruta del Palmito as well. My dad took me when I was 6 years old ('67). I remember a long walk up the mountain, there was talk about mastodon bones I was disappointed in not finding and what I thought was the coolest

[Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Denise P
Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for TCR ths year? I see both October 17 - 20 and 18 - 21 in various places. Is Thursday going to be added this year to the event? It's usually just Friday through Sunday, right? Thanks, Denise

RE: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
Well the 20th is a Sunday, so I expect it ends then... Some people turn up on Thursday. Cheers, Stefan From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:02 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Dates Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for TCR

RE: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Jim Kennedy
Thursday was officially added this year, because people started showing up then anyhow. -- Jim From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:02 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Dates Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for

Re: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
Actually, it was added last year. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com wrote: Thursday was officially added this year, because people started showing up then anyhow. -- Jim From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent:

Re: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Roger Moore
And to pass on the word from Facebook posts, the theme of the parade and costumes this year is Steam Punk. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: Actually, it was added last year. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jim

[Texascavers] Bustamante

2013-06-18 Thread Mixon Bill
From Mexico News section of the forthcoming AMCS Activities Newsletter 36: Philip Russell (William Russell's brother) recently visited Bustamante. He spoke with Sr. Martín Rico, the superintendent of the Grutas de Bustamante Park. Sr. Rico said that he would roll out the welcome mat

Re: [Texascavers] Bustamante

2013-06-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hello Friends. the Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleología, (Coahuila) start to work in a new project in Grutas del Palmito Bustamante for the next 3 years... march 2013-2015. We start the investigation in a new areas of the cave that we find... Orion Knox help us with information, maps and

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
I was there too, with my chicken suit that I was commissioned to fabricate by Guich, via Igor Loving. I'll tell the story after other folks recall it. Here's a photo of yon suit. There's another one. Somewhere. Ted On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread caverarch
Wonderful story and image! I'm eager to hear more. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Ted Samsel t.b.sam...@gmail.com To: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com Cc: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 7:48 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
Here's a side view. I have the story somewhere and shall find it. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Ted Samsel t.b.sam...@gmail.com wrote: I was there too, with my chicken suit that I was commissioned to fabricate by Guich, via Igor Loving. I'll tell the story after other folks recall it.

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
Here's the story: I was contracted by Guich Koock to build a *GIANT CHICKEN SUIT* for the 2nd Annual Luckenbach World's Fair which took place at the Gillespie County Fairgrounds. This is in Fredericksburg, TX. Well, since chickens have orange legs, I wore orange pantyhose with big old foam

texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 00:56:33 -0000 Issue 1780

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 00:56:33 - Issue 1780 Topics (messages 21983 through 21991): Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving 21983 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 21984 by: Don Arburn 21985 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 21989 by: Don Arburn Re: Remembering

[Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
How about the Dick part, Don?   I found this thing in my driveway when I came back from Terlingua.  Dan had left it there, and all the keys and paperwork with a neighbor.   Whatever it is, it is certainly a Great White Whale!!      I have put i t up on Craig's List - and I have had

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
Yeah, mine is bigger. 2007 Ford F-350 crew cab long bed 4x4 diesel with a camper shell. Been all the way to Belize (towed Strickland's old Trooper there). No pull-off needed, 'fraid it'd pull the ass off that Suburban. As for Moby, Texas Cavers of all sorts been a lot of places in it from BZ,

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don.  Sounds as if you are correct as far as any pul l-off contest is concerned.  I should have come over and admired Moby when we were together in Brackettville a couple of April Fools ago I must also admit that this is not

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
It's all good sir! Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:12 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don. Sounds as if you are correct as far as any pull-off contest is concerned. I should have come over and admired Moby when we were

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Jim Kennedy
Austin has emissions testing also, so I’m out as a buyer. -- Jim

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
I depends on how they require it, Jim. This is a 25 year old vehicle. a 1988.   What are your local emission testing requirements for something that age?  DirtDoc  - Original Message - From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com To: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com,

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Logan McNatt
If it's 25 years or older, it doesn't have to pass emissions testing. Logan (owner of 1988 Toyota) On 6/18/2013 10:27 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I depends on how they require it, Jim. This is a 25 year old vehicle. a 1988. What are your local emission testing requirements for something

[SWR] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
Know of anyone out there  that might be interested? This is definitely a great bargain and One Big Tough Truck.  I have been driving it and I think Dan has honestly advertised it. . Go to the Drop Box Link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee5388v3338m6u7/1988%20Suburban.docx?m

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
Mebbe “Crash” Kennedy? -S. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:16 PM To: Cave NM; Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving Know of anyone out there that might be interested? This is definitely a great bargain

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
The name Moby is taken. And Moby ain't fer sale. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Mebbe “Crash” Kennedy? -S. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:16 PM To: Cave NM; Cave

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper' truck is. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: The name Moby is taken. And Moby ain't fer sale. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Stefan Creaser

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Don, your truck eats other trucks for breakfast. That Suburban has to wait until dinner. From: Don Arburn Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:39 PM To: TSA Cavers List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper'

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
One that delivers food? From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:39 PM To: TSA Cavers List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper' truck is. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Butch Fralia (CAVEDBA)
That's similar to my 1988 'burb 3/4 ton 4x4. Mine was a RV Special, special ordered from the factory with all heavy duty options. Ever two years the previous owner (owned a construction company) bought his wife a new caddy and bought custom ordered a new suburban for himself. Big car lots

[Texascavers] Suburbans

2013-06-18 Thread Mixon Bill
I owned serial Suburbans back in the day, starting back when they were actually trucks and not all tricked out like rolling whorehouses with headliners and the like. There was actually metal on the interior that you could screw stuff to. My first one had only three doors, two on the curb

Re: [Texascavers] Suburbans

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
Like Bill, I have been driving two Tortugas that many of you know.  The first was a 59 1/2 ton I bought in 1961 , the second the 3/4 ton with a one-ton front axel that Ken Laidlaw bought new. When he got tired of his Big Toy, I bought it and put it to Real Work . I ended up after 30 years

[Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly. -Don - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-18 Thread Bill Steele
GGG Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly. -Don

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-18 Thread Mark Minton
Gonzo Guano Gear harnesses, made right there in Texas: http://www.gonzoguanogear.com/harness.html. Mark At 09:04 PM 6/18/2013, Don Arburn wrote: My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Please

[Texascavers] Remembering Palmito

2013-06-18 Thread Carl Kunath
Mimi: Palmito has made a lasting impression on many of us. Your story reminds me that it is now just a few days past 50 years ago that I went to Bustamante and Gruta del Palmito for the first time with Bill Gray and others of the original Alamo Grotto. I remember it well. I was stunned!

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Remembering Palmito

2013-06-18 Thread Logan McNatt
Very true retrospective, Carl. Thanks. On 6/18/2013 12:05 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Mimi: Palmito has made a lasting impression on many of us. Your story reminds me that it is now just a few days past 50 years ago that I went to Bustamante and Gruta del Palmito for the first time with Bill Gray

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Remembering Palmito

2013-06-18 Thread Nico Escamilla
There is still off trail access in Palmito, not all hope is lost. You just have to ask the guy in charge about it and be back in time before they close at 5pm Nico El martes, 18 de junio de 2013, Logan McNatt escribió: Very true retrospective, Carl. Thanks. On 6/18/2013 12:05 PM, Carl

[SWR] Fw: [NMAM-L] FW: lecture at Natural History Museum

2013-06-18 Thread Lynda James Sánchez
fyi. Lynda From: Aubele, Jayne, DCA Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:21 AM To: nma...@list.unm.edu Subject: [NMAM-L] FW: lecture at Natural History Museum Voices in Science Lecture Titanic: A Personal and Scientific Journey Penny Boston, Ph.D., Professor of Cave and Karst Science,

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 17:05:33 -0000 Issue 1777

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 17:05:33 - Issue 1777 Topics (messages 21957 through 21966): Re: Ben Hutchins 21957 by: Ben Hutchins Re: Remembering 21958 by: Louise Power 21963 by: Mimi Jasek Re: Bob Cowell 21959 by: Tom F 21960 by: James Jasek

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 19:17:47 -0000 Issue 1778

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 19:17:47 - Issue 1778 Topics (messages 21967 through 21970): Re: Remembering Palmito 21967 by: Logan McNatt 21968 by: Nico Escamilla Re: Remembering 21969 by: Louise Power Re: a tale from the old days of Texas cavers 21970 by:

texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 23:46:53 -0000 Issue 1779

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 18 Jun 2013 23:46:53 - Issue 1779 Topics (messages 21971 through 21982): Re: Remembering 21971 by: Gill Edigar 21973 by: Nico Escamilla TCR Dates 21972 by: Denise P 21974 by: Stefan Creaser 21975 by: Jim Kennedy 21976 by:

RE: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Louise Power
Mimi, I remember one of my first trips down there. I think Orion was the trip leader, but I'm not sure who else was there. We had just started down from the entrance on the breakdown slope when way off in the distance we kept hearing somebody calling Luz, Luz. So we all shown our lights

Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Gill Edigar
Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky Mexican-type natural progression from a totally wild, ask nobody for permission, do whatever

Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Nico Escamilla
Amen brother Gill El martes, 18 de junio de 2013, Gill Edigar escribió: Gruta del Palmito (Bustamante) was my first wild cave. It was a mind-altering experience. I have watched the situation concerning the cave go through many changes over the years. It has been a very jerky Mexican-type

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Remembering

2013-06-18 Thread Albach
Nice timing on this thread so close to Father's Day. My first cave was Gruta del Palmito as well. My dad took me when I was 6 years old ('67). I remember a long walk up the mountain, there was talk about mastodon bones I was disappointed in not finding and what I thought was the coolest

[Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Denise P
Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for TCR ths year? I see both October 17 - 20 and 18 - 21 in various places. Is Thursday going to be added this year to the event? It's usually just Friday through Sunday, right? Thanks, Denise

RE: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
Well the 20th is a Sunday, so I expect it ends then... Some people turn up on Thursday. Cheers, Stefan From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:02 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Dates Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for TCR

RE: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Jim Kennedy
Thursday was officially added this year, because people started showing up then anyhow. -- Jim From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:02 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TCR Dates Hello-Can someone please confirm the exact dates for

Re: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
Actually, it was added last year. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com wrote: Thursday was officially added this year, because people started showing up then anyhow. -- Jim From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] Sent:

Re: [Texascavers] TCR Dates

2013-06-18 Thread Roger Moore
And to pass on the word from Facebook posts, the theme of the parade and costumes this year is Steam Punk. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: Actually, it was added last year. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Jim

[Texascavers] Bustamante

2013-06-18 Thread Mixon Bill
From Mexico News section of the forthcoming AMCS Activities Newsletter 36: Philip Russell (William Russell's brother) recently visited Bustamante. He spoke with Sr. Martín Rico, the superintendent of the Grutas de Bustamante Park. Sr. Rico said that he would roll out the welcome mat

Re: [Texascavers] Bustamante

2013-06-18 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Hello Friends. the Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleología, (Coahuila) start to work in a new project in Grutas del Palmito Bustamante for the next 3 years... march 2013-2015. We start the investigation in a new areas of the cave that we find... Orion Knox help us with information, maps and

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
I was there too, with my chicken suit that I was commissioned to fabricate by Guich, via Igor Loving. I'll tell the story after other folks recall it. Here's a photo of yon suit. There's another one. Somewhere. Ted On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread caverarch
Wonderful story and image! I'm eager to hear more. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Ted Samsel t.b.sam...@gmail.com To: Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com Cc: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 7:48 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the

Re: [Texascavers] a tale from the old days of Texas cavers

2013-06-18 Thread Ted Samsel
Here's the story: I was contracted by Guich Koock to build a *GIANT CHICKEN SUIT* for the 2nd Annual Luckenbach World's Fair which took place at the Gillespie County Fairgrounds. This is in Fredericksburg, TX. Well, since chickens have orange legs, I wore orange pantyhose with big old foam

texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 00:56:33 -0000 Issue 1780

2013-06-18 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 00:56:33 - Issue 1780 Topics (messages 21983 through 21991): Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving 21983 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 21984 by: Don Arburn 21985 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net 21989 by: Don Arburn Re: Remembering

[Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
How about the Dick part, Don?   I found this thing in my driveway when I came back from Terlingua.  Dan had left it there, and all the keys and paperwork with a neighbor.   Whatever it is, it is certainly a Great White Whale!!      I have put i t up on Craig's List - and I have had

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
Yeah, mine is bigger. 2007 Ford F-350 crew cab long bed 4x4 diesel with a camper shell. Been all the way to Belize (towed Strickland's old Trooper there). No pull-off needed, 'fraid it'd pull the ass off that Suburban. As for Moby, Texas Cavers of all sorts been a lot of places in it from BZ,

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don.  Sounds as if you are correct as far as any pul l-off contest is concerned.  I should have come over and admired Moby when we were together in Brackettville a couple of April Fools ago I must also admit that this is not

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
It's all good sir! Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:12 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don. Sounds as if you are correct as far as any pull-off contest is concerned. I should have come over and admired Moby when we were

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Jim Kennedy
Austin has emissions testing also, so I’m out as a buyer. -- Jim

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
I depends on how they require it, Jim. This is a 25 year old vehicle. a 1988.   What are your local emission testing requirements for something that age?  DirtDoc  - Original Message - From: Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com To: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com,

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Ron R
not in Hays county. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com wrote: Austin has emissions testing also, so I’m out as a buyer. ** ** -- Jim -- Ron Rutherford

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Logan McNatt
If it's 25 years or older, it doesn't have to pass emissions testing. Logan (owner of 1988 Toyota) On 6/18/2013 10:27 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I depends on how they require it, Jim. This is a 25 year old vehicle. a 1988. What are your local emission testing requirements for something

[SWR] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
Know of anyone out there  that might be interested? This is definitely a great bargain and One Big Tough Truck.  I have been driving it and I think Dan has honestly advertised it. . Go to the Drop Box Link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee5388v3338m6u7/1988%20Suburban.docx?m

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
Mebbe “Crash” Kennedy? -S. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:16 PM To: Cave NM; Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving Know of anyone out there that might be interested? This is definitely a great bargain

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
The name Moby is taken. And Moby ain't fer sale. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Mebbe “Crash” Kennedy? -S. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:16 PM To: Cave NM; Cave

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper' truck is. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: The name Moby is taken. And Moby ain't fer sale. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Stefan Creaser

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Allan B. Cobb
Don, your truck eats other trucks for breakfast. That Suburban has to wait until dinner. From: Don Arburn Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:39 PM To: TSA Cavers List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper'

RE: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Stefan Creaser
One that delivers food? From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:39 PM To: TSA Cavers List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving And mines a SUPER truck, I don't really know what a 'supper' truck is. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-18 Thread Butch Fralia (CAVEDBA)
That's similar to my 1988 'burb 3/4 ton 4x4. Mine was a RV Special, special ordered from the factory with all heavy duty options. Ever two years the previous owner (owned a construction company) bought his wife a new caddy and bought custom ordered a new suburban for himself. Big car lots

[Texascavers] Suburbans

2013-06-18 Thread Mixon Bill
I owned serial Suburbans back in the day, starting back when they were actually trucks and not all tricked out like rolling whorehouses with headliners and the like. There was actually metal on the interior that you could screw stuff to. My first one had only three doors, two on the curb

Re: [Texascavers] Suburbans

2013-06-18 Thread dirtdoc
Like Bill, I have been driving two Tortugas that many of you know.  The first was a 59 1/2 ton I bought in 1961 , the second the 3/4 ton with a one-ton front axel that Ken Laidlaw bought new. When he got tired of his Big Toy, I bought it and put it to Real Work . I ended up after 30 years

[Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-18 Thread Don Arburn
My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly. -Don - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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