I wonder if this very real threat of losing the #1 spot will prompt some
people to reconsider their interest in connecting Mammoth to Fischer Ridge.
George
***
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad,
I wonder if this very real threat of losing the #1 spot will prompt some
people to reconsider their interest in connecting Mammoth to Fischer Ridge.
George
***
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad,
I wonder if this very real threat of losing the #1 spot will prompt some
people to reconsider their interest in connecting Mammoth to Fischer Ridge.
George
***
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad,
Has anyone mentioned this to Jim Conrad? He spent so much time living in the
tropics, I wonder if he's encountered kissing bugs in any of his "grass
shacks." If anyone, he would be very vulnerable to Chagas. Probably wouldn't
hurt to ask.
Louise
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 21:01:34 -0600
From: lmcn.
Has anyone mentioned this to Jim Conrad? He spent so much time living in the
tropics, I wonder if he's encountered kissing bugs in any of his "grass
shacks." If anyone, he would be very vulnerable to Chagas. Probably wouldn't
hurt to ask.
Louise
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu
Has anyone mentioned this to Jim Conrad? He spent so much time living in the
tropics, I wonder if he's encountered kissing bugs in any of his "grass
shacks." If anyone, he would be very vulnerable to Chagas. Probably wouldn't
hurt to ask.
Louise
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu
More than a few years ago I went to the closest spot between Fisher and
Roppel (MaCa). Joe Saunders led me to this upper rocky crawl where I went to
the bitter end, rocky collapse, and placed a sign Joe had given me, stating
something to the effect, we (Fisher Ridge) does not want to be swallowe
More than a few years ago I went to the closest spot between Fisher and
Roppel (MaCa). Joe Saunders led me to this upper rocky crawl where I went to
the bitter end, rocky collapse, and placed a sign Joe had given me, stating
something to the effect, we (Fisher Ridge) does not want to be swallowe
More than a few years ago I went to the closest spot between Fisher and
Roppel (MaCa). Joe Saunders led me to this upper rocky crawl where I went to
the bitter end, rocky collapse, and placed a sign Joe had given me, stating
something to the effect, we (Fisher Ridge) does not want to be swallowe
Minor update. According to Jim Coke
(QRSS), another connection has pushed the length
of Sac Actun to over 308 km. The longest cave in
the world might well end up in Quintana Roo,
although if (when) Fisher Ridge connects to
Mammoth, that'll add another 200 km to the latter.
Mark
At
Minor update. According to Jim Coke
(QRSS), another connection has pushed the length
of Sac Actun to over 308 km. The longest cave in
the world might well end up in Quintana Roo,
although if (when) Fisher Ridge connects to
Mammoth, that'll add another 200 km to the latter.
Mark
At
Minor update. According to Jim Coke
(QRSS), another connection has pushed the length
of Sac Actun to over 308 km. The longest cave in
the world might well end up in Quintana Roo,
although if (when) Fisher Ridge connects to
Mammoth, that'll add another 200 km to the latter.
Mark
At
No. Serious. I wonder what parasites, amoebae, whatever I have. And glad
to still be kick in'!
On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Logan McNatt wrote:
>
> On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
> house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous w
No. Serious. I wonder what parasites, amoebae, whatever I have. And glad
to still be kick in'!
On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Logan McNatt wrote:
>
> On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
> house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous w
No. Serious. I wonder what parasites, amoebae, whatever I have. And glad
to still be kick in'!
On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Logan McNatt wrote:
>
> On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
> house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous w
On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous world.
Yeah Linda, I have too, even growing up in north central Texas (Brownwood). But I never found the ones up here crawling on me at night or
biting
On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous world.
Yeah Linda, I have too, even growing up in north central Texas (Brownwood). But I never found the ones up here crawling on me at night or
biting
On 12/6/2012 8:11 PM, Linda Palit wrote: Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA
house and all over south Texas they ate around. It is a dangerous world.
Yeah Linda, I have too, even growing up in north central Texas (Brownwood). But I never found the ones up here crawling on me at night or
biting
The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an
interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us.
We
arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house
had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green bl
The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an
interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us.
We
arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house
had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green bl
The three months Ann and I recently spent in the high west were an
interbugnum, one of those rare times in our lives when nothing was biting us.
We
arrived back home in Florida to discover that the entire inside of our house
had turned blue and our bed was a pustulent pulsating blue green bl
Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA house and all over south Texas they ate
around. It is a dangerous world.
Linda.
Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA house and all over south Texas they ate
around. It is a dangerous world.
Linda.
Seen lots of these bugs. In my SA house and all over south Texas they ate
around. It is a dangerous world.
Linda.
In case you haven’t heard or can’t read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac Actun
and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, Mexico,
have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the second
longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema Ox
In case you haven’t heard or can’t read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac Actun
and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, Mexico,
have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the second
longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema Ox
In case you haven’t heard or can’t read the Spanish below, Sistema Sac Actun
and Sistema Dos Ojos, two massive underwater caves in Quintana Roo, Mexico,
have been connected for a combined length of 303 km, making it the second
longest cave in the world. Not too far away is 240 km long Sistema Ox
Interesting discussion. As Aimee said, it's not the bite that can give you
Chagas disease, it's what they do from the other end.
The _first_ time I got bitten by a kissing bug was in 1973 in Rio Frio Cave in Belize. Bit me on my calf and hurt like hell, which is unusual.
Back at Barb MacLeod
Interesting discussion. As Aimee said, it's not the bite that can give you
Chagas disease, it's what they do from the other end.
The _first_ time I got bitten by a kissing bug was in 1973 in Rio Frio Cave in Belize. Bit me on my calf and hurt like hell, which is unusual.
Back at Barb MacLeod
Interesting discussion. As Aimee said, it's not the bite that can give you
Chagas disease, it's what they do from the other end.
The _first_ time I got bitten by a kissing bug was in 1973 in Rio Frio Cave in Belize. Bit me on my calf and hurt like hell, which is unusual.
Back at Barb MacLeod
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 22:52:12 - Issue 1676
Topics (messages 21106 through 21109):
Re: Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
21106 by: Aimee Beveridge
21107 by: Lyndon Tiu
21108 by: rafal kedzierski
21109 by: Ted Samsel
Administrivia:
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 22:52:12 - Issue 1676
Topics (messages 21106 through 21109):
Re: Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
21106 by: Aimee Beveridge
21107 by: Lyndon Tiu
21108 by: rafal kedzierski
21109 by: Ted Samsel
Administrivia:
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 22:52:12 - Issue 1676
Topics (messages 21106 through 21109):
Re: Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
21106 by: Aimee Beveridge
21107 by: Lyndon Tiu
21108 by: rafal kedzierski
21109 by: Ted Samsel
Administrivia:
My old man (an ER MD) was aware of this back in the 1950s in S Texas. Thisn
is not new news.
Ted
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:38 PM, rafal kedzierski wrote:
> From 'An Estimate of the Burden of Chagas Disease in the United States',
> Clinicial Infectious Diseases, 2009, Volume 49, Issue 5.
>
> 'The
My old man (an ER MD) was aware of this back in the 1950s in S Texas. Thisn
is not new news.
Ted
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:38 PM, rafal kedzierski wrote:
> From 'An Estimate of the Burden of Chagas Disease in the United States',
> Clinicial Infectious Diseases, 2009, Volume 49, Issue 5.
>
> 'The
My old man (an ER MD) was aware of this back in the 1950s in S Texas. Thisn
is not new news.
Ted
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:38 PM, rafal kedzierski wrote:
> From 'An Estimate of the Burden of Chagas Disease in the United States',
> Clinicial Infectious Diseases, 2009, Volume 49, Issue 5.
>
> 'The
>From 'An Estimate of the Burden of Chagas Disease in the United States',
>Clinicial Infectious Diseases, 2009, Volume 49, Issue 5.
'The United States cannot be classified as an area of nonendemicity for Chagas
disease in the same sense as Europe or Asia. The southern states have enzootic
T.
>From 'An Estimate of the Burden of Chagas Disease in the United States',
>Clinicial Infectious Diseases, 2009, Volume 49, Issue 5.
'The United States cannot be classified as an area of nonendemicity for Chagas
disease in the same sense as Europe or Asia. The southern states have enzootic
T.
>From 'An Estimate of the Burden of Chagas Disease in the United States',
>Clinicial Infectious Diseases, 2009, Volume 49, Issue 5.
'The United States cannot be classified as an area of nonendemicity for Chagas
disease in the same sense as Europe or Asia. The southern states have enzootic
T.
What did mommy say ... ?
"Don't rub your eyes and wash your face when you wake up in the morning!"
Listen to mommy!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
> in your eye!
>
> *From:* Lyndon Tiu
> *To:* Aimee Beveridge
> *Cc:* texas cavers tc
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6
What did mommy say ... ?
"Don't rub your eyes and wash your face when you wake up in the morning!"
Listen to mommy!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
> in your eye!
>
> *From:* Lyndon Tiu
> *To:* Aimee Beveridge
> *Cc:* texas cavers tc
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6
What did mommy say ... ?
"Don't rub your eyes and wash your face when you wake up in the morning!"
Listen to mommy!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
> in your eye!
>
> *From:* Lyndon Tiu
> *To:* Aimee Beveridge
> *Cc:* texas cavers tc
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6
in your eye!
From: Lyndon Tiu
To: Aimee Beveridge
Cc: texas cavers tc
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in
Texas
Shit!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Aimee Beveridge wr
in your eye!
From: Lyndon Tiu
To: Aimee Beveridge
Cc: texas cavers tc
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in
Texas
Shit!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Aimee Beveridge wr
in your eye!
From: Lyndon Tiu
To: Aimee Beveridge
Cc: texas cavers tc
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in
Texas
Shit!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Aimee Beveridge wr
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 22:09:11 - Issue 1675
Topics (messages 21101 through 21105):
Re: Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
21101 by: trog...@hotmail.com
21102 by: Lyndon Tiu
21103 by: Aimee Beveridge
21104 by: Lyndon Tiu
2110
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 22:09:11 - Issue 1675
Topics (messages 21101 through 21105):
Re: Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
21101 by: trog...@hotmail.com
21102 by: Lyndon Tiu
21103 by: Aimee Beveridge
21104 by: Lyndon Tiu
2110
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 22:09:11 - Issue 1675
Topics (messages 21101 through 21105):
Re: Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
21101 by: trog...@hotmail.com
21102 by: Lyndon Tiu
21103 by: Aimee Beveridge
21104 by: Lyndon Tiu
2110
Mark,
>From what I heard, it makes you want to crawl under a rock, seek out dark
>places, swim through deep water, camp on the ground in the heat and cold,
>cover yourself with mud, volunteer for crazy projects that no one else would
>think of doing unless paid lots of money, drink lots of alc
Mark,
>From what I heard, it makes you want to crawl under a rock, seek out dark
>places, swim through deep water, camp on the ground in the heat and cold,
>cover yourself with mud, volunteer for crazy projects that no one else would
>think of doing unless paid lots of money, drink lots of alc
Mark,
>From what I heard, it makes you want to crawl under a rock, seek out dark
>places, swim through deep water, camp on the ground in the heat and cold,
>cover yourself with mud, volunteer for crazy projects that no one else would
>think of doing unless paid lots of money, drink lots of alc
Shit!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
> I am sure this was pointed out earlier but being bitten isn't the
> problem. Its oral or open wound contact with the infected feces.
>
>
>
> *From:* rafal kedzierski
> *To:* gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texas cavers tc <
> texa
Shit!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
> I am sure this was pointed out earlier but being bitten isn't the
> problem. Its oral or open wound contact with the infected feces.
>
>
>
> *From:* rafal kedzierski
> *To:* gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texas cavers tc <
> texa
Shit!
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
> I am sure this was pointed out earlier but being bitten isn't the
> problem. Its oral or open wound contact with the infected feces.
>
>
>
> *From:* rafal kedzierski
> *To:* gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texas cavers tc <
> texa
I am sure this was pointed out earlier but being bitten isn't the problem. Its
oral or open wound contact with the infected feces.
From: rafal kedzierski
To: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texas cavers tc
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:29 PM
Subjec
I am sure this was pointed out earlier but being bitten isn't the problem. Its
oral or open wound contact with the infected feces.
From: rafal kedzierski
To: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texas cavers tc
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:29 PM
Subjec
I am sure this was pointed out earlier but being bitten isn't the problem. Its
oral or open wound contact with the infected feces.
From: rafal kedzierski
To: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texas cavers tc
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:29 PM
Subjec
Like all diseases (incl. AIDS), the kill rate is not 100%:
Quoted from wiki:
" ... Of individuals with chronic Chagas disease, 60–80% will never
develop symptoms (called *indeterminate* chronic Chagas disease), while the
remaining 20–40% will develop life-threatening heart and/or digestive
disord
Like all diseases (incl. AIDS), the kill rate is not 100%:
Quoted from wiki:
" ... Of individuals with chronic Chagas disease, 60–80% will never
develop symptoms (called *indeterminate* chronic Chagas disease), while the
remaining 20–40% will develop life-threatening heart and/or digestive
disord
Like all diseases (incl. AIDS), the kill rate is not 100%:
Quoted from wiki:
" ... Of individuals with chronic Chagas disease, 60–80% will never
develop symptoms (called *indeterminate* chronic Chagas disease), while the
remaining 20–40% will develop life-threatening heart and/or digestive
disord
From what I've heard it has no immediate symptoms and shows up years later as
heart complications. I'm glad I usually sleep in my truck or tent.
Ryan Monjaras
"Semper Exploro"
Maverick grotto
Cowtown grotto
DFW grotto
UT grotto Secretary
Bexar grotto
Greater Houston Grotto
TSA
TCMA
Sent from my
From what I've heard it has no immediate symptoms and shows up years later as
heart complications. I'm glad I usually sleep in my truck or tent.
Ryan Monjaras
"Semper Exploro"
Maverick grotto
Cowtown grotto
DFW grotto
UT grotto Secretary
Bexar grotto
Greater Houston Grotto
TSA
TCMA
Sent from my
From what I've heard it has no immediate symptoms and shows up years later as
heart complications. I'm glad I usually sleep in my truck or tent.
Ryan Monjaras
"Semper Exploro"
Maverick grotto
Cowtown grotto
DFW grotto
UT grotto Secretary
Bexar grotto
Greater Houston Grotto
TSA
TCMA
Sent from my
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 20:47:53 - Issue 1674
Topics (messages 21093 through 21100):
Re: El Paso Cave Man
21093 by: Louise Power
21095 by: Scott Boyd
21096 by: Alberto Barud
Re: end of the world
21094 by: Steve Keselik
Results of testing for Chagas in
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 20:47:53 - Issue 1674
Topics (messages 21093 through 21100):
Re: El Paso Cave Man
21093 by: Louise Power
21095 by: Scott Boyd
21096 by: Alberto Barud
Re: end of the world
21094 by: Steve Keselik
Results of testing for Chagas in
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2012 20:47:53 - Issue 1674
Topics (messages 21093 through 21100):
Re: El Paso Cave Man
21093 by: Louise Power
21095 by: Scott Boyd
21096 by: Alberto Barud
Re: end of the world
21094 by: Steve Keselik
Results of testing for Chagas in
Geary,
Could you or Rafal list the symptoms here?
Thanks,
Mark
From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:46 PM
To: 'rafal kedzierski'; texas cavers tc
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissin
Geary,
Could you or Rafal list the symptoms here?
Thanks,
Mark
From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:46 PM
To: 'rafal kedzierski'; texas cavers tc
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissin
Geary,
Could you or Rafal list the symptoms here?
Thanks,
Mark
From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:46 PM
To: 'rafal kedzierski'; texas cavers tc
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissin
Rafal,
I've forward your question to Krista and told her I would be happy to post a
response.
Thanks,
Geary
From: rafal kedzierski [mailto:rafal...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:29 PM
To: Geary Schindel; texas cavers tc
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chaga
Rafal,
I've forward your question to Krista and told her I would be happy to post a
response.
Thanks,
Geary
From: rafal kedzierski [mailto:rafal...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:29 PM
To: Geary Schindel; texas cavers tc
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chaga
Rafal,
I've forward your question to Krista and told her I would be happy to post a
response.
Thanks,
Geary
From: rafal kedzierski [mailto:rafal...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:29 PM
To: Geary Schindel; texas cavers tc
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chaga
Just throwing gas on the fire of complexity of life, I just want to point out
that Trypanosoma cruzi or causitive factor in Chagas disease is not only
trypanosome in the environment. Most of them are not directly harmful to H.
sapiens. Therefore, before anyone jumps to any conclusion, how speci
Just throwing gas on the fire of complexity of life, I just want to point out
that Trypanosoma cruzi or causitive factor in Chagas disease is not only
trypanosome in the environment. Most of them are not directly harmful to H.
sapiens. Therefore, before anyone jumps to any conclusion, how speci
Just throwing gas on the fire of complexity of life, I just want to point out
that Trypanosoma cruzi or causitive factor in Chagas disease is not only
trypanosome in the environment. Most of them are not directly harmful to H.
sapiens. Therefore, before anyone jumps to any conclusion, how speci
Folks,
Back in June, I collected four kissing bugs from the Deep and Punkin preserve
in Edwards County, Texas. This was in support of some research being conducted
by the National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine. Two
of the bugs were captured in the cabin and two were
Folks,
Back in June, I collected four kissing bugs from the Deep and Punkin preserve
in Edwards County, Texas. This was in support of some research being conducted
by the National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine. Two
of the bugs were captured in the cabin and two were
Folks,
Back in June, I collected four kissing bugs from the Deep and Punkin preserve
in Edwards County, Texas. This was in support of some research being conducted
by the National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine. Two
of the bugs were captured in the cabin and two were
Check out the links noted. Dr. Victor Polyak’s work at Fort Stanton Cave is
noted in this new PBS CONNECT production. (*segment on the Wooly Mammoth and
Climatology) We have the entire program link as well as the segment only where
Fort Stanton cave is shown along with Victor’s work. Pete L
Check out the links noted. Dr. Victor Polyak’s work at Fort Stanton Cave is
noted in this new PBS CONNECT production. (*segment on the Wooly Mammoth and
Climatology) We have the entire program link as well as the segment only where
Fort Stanton cave is shown along with Victor’s work. Pete L
Check out the links noted. Dr. Victor Polyak’s work at Fort Stanton Cave is
noted in this new PBS CONNECT production. (*segment on the Wooly Mammoth and
Climatology) We have the entire program link as well as the segment only where
Fort Stanton cave is shown along with Victor’s work. Pete L
Subject: Fw: News from the Conservation Lands Foundation
Everyone: we have all seen the Newspaper clip that I forwarded to you before,
however the Conservation Lands Foundation picked this up as well because I also
forwarded to them for their national Newsletter. Always good to see our Caves
Subject: Fw: News from the Conservation Lands Foundation
Everyone: we have all seen the Newspaper clip that I forwarded to you before,
however the Conservation Lands Foundation picked this up as well because I also
forwarded to them for their national Newsletter. Always good to see our Caves
Subject: Fw: News from the Conservation Lands Foundation
Everyone: we have all seen the Newspaper clip that I forwarded to you before,
however the Conservation Lands Foundation picked this up as well because I also
forwarded to them for their national Newsletter. Always good to see our Caves
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