Re: [Texascavers] FW: Save Bracken Update
Wow, the power of the People is working. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Louise Power wrote: Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 eblastheaderlogodkblue.jpg San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success view.image Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the San Antonio government’s attention and they are now reaching out to us for meetings! The public support you have provided has given our cause more power. We are hopeful that we can figure out a solution, and are continuing visits with city officials and other elected individuals. Please continue to voice your opposition to the Galo Properties development by telling your family, friends, neighbors and co- workers about the threat to our Bracken Bats. Our “Save Bracken” petition is still active and check out our website, Facebook page, orTwitter (@Batconintl) for updates on how you can help BCI. And don't forget to share, share, share! Help us continue the fight - please consider donating $10 or more today to save Bracken and our bats. Thank you for being part of the team and protecting Bracken from the threat of the surrounding development. We have a long way to go but your support is invaluable. Sincerely, view.image view.image Andrew Walker Executive Director Bat Conservation International P.O. Box 162603 Austin, TX 78716 Phone: (512) 327-9721 | Fax: (512) 327-9724 | Email: i...@batcon.org Privacy Policy | Email Preferences Opt-out | Donate | Join us © Bat Conservation International, Inc. To avoid spam filters, don't forget to add our mailings to your Contacts and/or Safe list. smtp.mailopen
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 19:26:17 -0000 Issue 1769
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 19:26:17 - Issue 1769 Topics (messages 21874 through 21879): Re: Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video 21874 by: James Jasek 21875 by: caverarch 21879 by: George Veni Re: Save Bracken Update 21876 by: Louise Power 21877 by: James Jasek Accident report, non-cave 21878 by: Louise Power Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Yes, a very well done and excellent video of Honey Creek Cave. The video editing provided a continuos story. Great job to everyone involved. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- We at Greater Houston Grotto would give the same grade. Joe kindly came to the last Grotto meeting and presented it for us. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:46 am Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Fabulous! Makes me homesick for the cave and Texas cavers. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:45 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the San Antonio government’s attention and
[Texascavers] Green job in Austin
Sierra Club seeks Community Organizer. Sierra Club is looking to hire an experienced community organizer based in Austin, TX to help increase its grassroots power in the region. As a part of the history-making Beyond Coal campaign, s/he will help broaden the coalition to promote renewable energy and move beyond dirty, coal-fired power. This is an outstanding opportunity for an individual looking to enhanced his/her organizing skills and join a powerful, national team. For full details and to apply, please visit: https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH15/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=SIERRACLUBcws=1rid=277 Roger G. Moore
Re: [SWR] Accident report, non-cave
I appreciate this reminder of watching out for your partners in all activities. So many accidents could be prevented if someone might just have said are you aware of _? or watch that _. I worked in a large coal strip mine with 400 union personnel mining and crushing 4 million tons per year. We had an ongoing accident problem that finally got turned around when our safety training revolved around watching out for the other guy. This made our own lax habits more clear to each of us because we were probably doing the same simple careless things. We went that 1st year without any lost time accidents. I also worked in tower construction and we applied the same principles with great success. It is the little things that usually cause accidents. To overcome ego challenges it helps to remind the person that there is someone in their life that would like them to come home at the end of their shift. I have climbed Rainier and other peaks and know how in an instant everything can go wrong due to a simple oversight. We try very hard to practice these principals in our caving activities. Rob Wood Mesilla Valley Grotto On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: The Department of the Interior employees all got this accident report this morning. The accident involved a Park Service Ranger who died last year during a rescue attempt. I know a lot of you are involved in rescues or at least dangerous transits, so I hope you'll pay attention to what the Serious Accident Investigation Team reported as the real cause of the death. I've highlighted it in yellow. Please cave and rescue safely. Your family and friends like having you around. June 4, 2013 Memorandum To: All Employees From: Director /s/ Jonathan B. Jarvis Subject: Nick Hall Serious Accident Report Released On June 21st of last year, Park Ranger Nick Hall fell to his death during the rescue of critically injured climbers at 13,800 ' elevation on Mount Rainier. Nick, a 33-year-old former U.S. Marine sergeant, was in his fourth season with the National Park Service (NPS). He was following his passion for the outdoors, having worked in various jobs that developed his expertise as a ski patroller, medical technician, and mountaineering and river ranger. Those who knew Nick describe a quiet, competent leader with a strong, commanding presence. The Serious Accident Investigation Team has completed its investigation and determined Nick died because he was not anchored with fall protection during the rescue. He lost his balance and fell while unhooking a litter from beneath a hovering helicopter. Yet, the reason he died is far more complex. Nick was not wearing fall protection likely because of a common human tendency known as “normalization of risk” which is to become desensitized to the risk around us and subconsciously accept high levels of risk as being normal after continuously repeating the behavior without negative consequences. In many recent NPS fatalities, we found the same failure in our system to prevent employees from accepting unnecessary risk. The lesson for us all is to make it a practice to carefully reevaluate the risks we accept as normal—or even mundane—and to build in a margin for error, create and follow our written procedures, and provide and use our training. Managers and supervisors need to be watchful of the tendency of employees to “normalize” risks and must implement robust management and supervisory controls to prevent this from occurring in all types of field operations. We also have to look out for one another and to get beyond the apprehension of correcting our peers when we see them engaging or preparing to engage in behaviors that may get them or others hurt. When applied, the concepts in Operational Leadership should help to prevent these tragic accidents. We have trained 15,000 employees; now it’s time we implement what we have learned into our daily operations. I encourage all of you to read and learn from the lessons included in the Factual SAIT Report and Corrective Action Plan ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
We at Greater Houston Grotto would give the same grade. Joe kindly came to the last Grotto meeting and presented it for us. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:46 am Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
RE: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Fabulous! Makes me homesick for the cave and Texas cavers. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:45 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave Without A Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ft underground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of the movie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the water drops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standing ovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earned their place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Totally agree. I missed the showing as I was setting up the group photo. I watched the video today and it is excellent. Jim On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Logan McNatt wrote: They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave Without A Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ft underground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of the movie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the water drops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standing ovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earned their place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Oh, James, sorry you missed seeing it at CWAN. But thanks again for doing the group photo! Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: James Jasek caver...@hot.rr.com To: lmcnatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:25 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Totally agree. I missed the showing as I was setting up the group photo. I watched the video today and it is excellent. Jim On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Logan McNatt wrote: They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave WithoutA Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ftunderground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of themovie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the waterdrops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standingovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earnedtheir place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
[Texascavers] a beach party summary
I am posting this as a blog, mostly to show a few photos. There were no cavers in attendance, but we had our best intentions to make it a caver party. We had a great weekend. http://david-locklear.blogspot.com/2013/06/a-summary-of-2013-texas-cavers-beach.html NaturFest Association has no other scheduled activities before our spring campout in early March of 2014. I doubt that will happen at Camp Happy Hollow, so we are tentatively planning an event at Lake Somerville.Please check us out on Facebook or Google+ as there are just too many cavers annoyed by invitations via email. https://www.facebook.com/groups/213300932024864/members/ https://plus.google.com/communities/41188928844592246 David Locklear
[Texascavers] Download No place on earth
I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
These websites exist and what they are doing is usually hosting a pirated copy of the film hosted on another third party server. By viewing these films (files) you are subjecting yourself to both the possibility of infecting your computer with a virus and possible consequences through both your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and or Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) which is a subset of homeland security. So take it or leave it, if I were wanting to go the illegal route (albeit many people are going this route) I would just download the torrent from a vetted source on any number of torrent tracker websites... just don't tell me about it ;) Herman Miller On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org --**--**- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscribe@**texascavers.comtexascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-help@texascavers.**comtexascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
You're absolutely right and to further back that up, Katherine Arens sent me an excellent article speaking to this particular company. See link below. Her recommendation: DON'T GO THERE. Mine, after reading the article: I'LL WAIT UNTIL I SEE IT'S OUT ON LEGIT DVD. http://www.pogo.net.au/2011/02/pirate-movies-landmark-case/ Thanks to all who replied. Louise Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 21:46:07 -0500 From: her...@cavechat.org To: mmin...@caver.net CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth These websites exist and what they are doing is usually hosting a pirated copy of the film hosted on another third party server. By viewing these films (files) you are subjecting yourself to both the possibility of infecting your computer with a virus and possible consequences through both your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and or Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) which is a subset of homeland security. So take it or leave it, if I were wanting to go the illegal route (albeit many people are going this route) I would just download the torrent from a vetted source on any number of torrent tracker websites... just don't tell me about it ;) Herman Miller On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 12:46:41 -0000 Issue 1768
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 12:46:41 - Issue 1768 Topics (messages 21872 through 21873): UT Grotto Meeting June 5th 21872 by: Andrea Croskrey Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video 21873 by: Speleosteele.aol.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Howdy Texas Cavers, This week the UT Grotto is pleased that Bev Shadehttps://www.facebook.com/bev.shade.7?directed_target_id=2231736016and David Ochel https://www.facebook.com/lostgravity?directed_target_id=2231736016will be sharing tales and photographs from the Tzontzecuiculi Expedition on Sierra Negra in Puebla, Mexico. See you Wednesday!UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message---
[Texascavers] FW: Save Bracken Update
Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the San Antonio government’s attention and they are now reaching out to us for meetings! The public support you have provided has given our cause more power. We are hopeful that we can figure out a solution, and are continuing visits with city officials and other elected individuals. Please continue to voice your opposition to the Galo Properties development by telling your family, friends, neighbors and co-workers about the threat to our Bracken Bats. Our “Save Bracken” petition is still active and check out our website, Facebook page, or Twitter (@Batconintl) for updates on how you can help BCI. And don't forget to share, share, share! Help us continue the fight - please consider donating $10 or more today to save Bracken and our bats. Thank you for being part of the team and protecting Bracken from the threat of the surrounding development. We have a long way to go but your support is invaluable. Sincerely, Andrew Walker Executive Director Bat Conservation International P.O. Box 162603 Austin, TX 78716 Phone: (512) 327-9721 | Fax: (512) 327-9724 | Email: i...@batcon.org Privacy Policy | Email Preferences Opt-out | Donate | Join us © Bat Conservation International, Inc. To avoid spam filters, don't forget to add our mailings to your Contacts and/or Safe list.
Re: [Texascavers] FW: Save Bracken Update
Wow, the power of the People is working. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Louise Power wrote: Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 eblastheaderlogodkblue.jpg San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success view.image Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the San Antonio government’s attention and they are now reaching out to us for meetings! The public support you have provided has given our cause more power. We are hopeful that we can figure out a solution, and are continuing visits with city officials and other elected individuals. Please continue to voice your opposition to the Galo Properties development by telling your family, friends, neighbors and co- workers about the threat to our Bracken Bats. Our “Save Bracken” petition is still active and check out our website, Facebook page, orTwitter (@Batconintl) for updates on how you can help BCI. And don't forget to share, share, share! Help us continue the fight - please consider donating $10 or more today to save Bracken and our bats. Thank you for being part of the team and protecting Bracken from the threat of the surrounding development. We have a long way to go but your support is invaluable. Sincerely, view.image view.image Andrew Walker Executive Director Bat Conservation International P.O. Box 162603 Austin, TX 78716 Phone: (512) 327-9721 | Fax: (512) 327-9724 | Email: i...@batcon.org Privacy Policy | Email Preferences Opt-out | Donate | Join us © Bat Conservation International, Inc. To avoid spam filters, don't forget to add our mailings to your Contacts and/or Safe list. smtp.mailopen
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 19:26:17 -0000 Issue 1769
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 19:26:17 - Issue 1769 Topics (messages 21874 through 21879): Re: Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video 21874 by: James Jasek 21875 by: caverarch 21879 by: George Veni Re: Save Bracken Update 21876 by: Louise Power 21877 by: James Jasek Accident report, non-cave 21878 by: Louise Power Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Yes, a very well done and excellent video of Honey Creek Cave. The video editing provided a continuos story. Great job to everyone involved. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- We at Greater Houston Grotto would give the same grade. Joe kindly came to the last Grotto meeting and presented it for us. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:46 am Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Fabulous! Makes me homesick for the cave and Texas cavers. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:45 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the
[Texascavers] Green job in Austin
Sierra Club seeks Community Organizer. Sierra Club is looking to hire an experienced community organizer based in Austin, TX to help increase its grassroots power in the region. As a part of the history-making Beyond Coal campaign, s/he will help broaden the coalition to promote renewable energy and move beyond dirty, coal-fired power. This is an outstanding opportunity for an individual looking to enhanced his/her organizing skills and join a powerful, national team. For full details and to apply, please visit: https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH15/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=SIERRACLUBcws=1rid=277 Roger G. Moore
[SWR] Accident report, non-cave
The Department of the Interior employees all got this accident report this morning. The accident involved a Park Service Ranger who died last year during a rescue attempt. I know a lot of you are involved in rescues or at least dangerous transits, so I hope you'll pay attention to what the Serious Accident Investigation Team reported as the real cause of the death. I've highlighted it in yellow. Please cave and rescue safely. Your family and friends like having you around. June 4, 2013 Memorandum To: All Employees From: Director /s/ Jonathan B. Jarvis Subject: Nick Hall Serious Accident Report Released On June 21st of last year, Park Ranger Nick Hall fell to his death during the rescue of critically injured climbers at 13,800 ' elevation on Mount Rainier. Nick, a 33-year-old former U.S. Marine sergeant, was in his fourth season with the National Park Service (NPS). He was following his passion for the outdoors, having worked in various jobs that developed his expertise as a ski patroller, medical technician, and mountaineering and river ranger. Those who knew Nick describe a quiet, competent leader with a strong, commanding presence. The Serious Accident Investigation Team has completed its investigation and determined Nick died because he was not anchored with fall protection during the rescue. He lost his balance and fell while unhooking a litter from beneath a hovering helicopter. Yet, the reason he died is far more complex. Nick was not wearing fall protection likely because of a common human tendency known as “normalization of risk” which is to become desensitized to the risk around us and subconsciously accept high levels of risk as being normal after continuously repeating the behavior without negative consequences. In many recent NPS fatalities, we found the same failure in our system to prevent employees from accepting unnecessary risk. The lesson for us all is to make it a practice to carefully reevaluate the risks we accept as normal—or even mundane—and to build in a margin for error, create and follow our written procedures, and provide and use our training. Managers and supervisors need to be watchful of the tendency of employees to “normalize” risks and must implement robust management and supervisory controls to prevent this from occurring in all types of field operations. We also have to look out for one another and to get beyond the apprehension of correcting our peers when we see them engaging or preparing to engage in behaviors that may get them or others hurt. When applied, the concepts in Operational Leadership should help to prevent these tragic accidents. We have trained 15,000 employees; now it’s time we implement what we have learned into our daily operations. I encourage all of you to read and learn from the lessons included in the Factual SAIT Report and Corrective Action Plan ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Accident report, non-cave
I appreciate this reminder of watching out for your partners in all activities. So many accidents could be prevented if someone might just have said are you aware of _? or watch that _. I worked in a large coal strip mine with 400 union personnel mining and crushing 4 million tons per year. We had an ongoing accident problem that finally got turned around when our safety training revolved around watching out for the other guy. This made our own lax habits more clear to each of us because we were probably doing the same simple careless things. We went that 1st year without any lost time accidents. I also worked in tower construction and we applied the same principles with great success. It is the little things that usually cause accidents. To overcome ego challenges it helps to remind the person that there is someone in their life that would like them to come home at the end of their shift. I have climbed Rainier and other peaks and know how in an instant everything can go wrong due to a simple oversight. We try very hard to practice these principals in our caving activities. Rob Wood Mesilla Valley Grotto On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: The Department of the Interior employees all got this accident report this morning. The accident involved a Park Service Ranger who died last year during a rescue attempt. I know a lot of you are involved in rescues or at least dangerous transits, so I hope you'll pay attention to what the Serious Accident Investigation Team reported as the real cause of the death. I've highlighted it in yellow. Please cave and rescue safely. Your family and friends like having you around. June 4, 2013 Memorandum To: All Employees From: Director /s/ Jonathan B. Jarvis Subject: Nick Hall Serious Accident Report Released On June 21st of last year, Park Ranger Nick Hall fell to his death during the rescue of critically injured climbers at 13,800 ' elevation on Mount Rainier. Nick, a 33-year-old former U.S. Marine sergeant, was in his fourth season with the National Park Service (NPS). He was following his passion for the outdoors, having worked in various jobs that developed his expertise as a ski patroller, medical technician, and mountaineering and river ranger. Those who knew Nick describe a quiet, competent leader with a strong, commanding presence. The Serious Accident Investigation Team has completed its investigation and determined Nick died because he was not anchored with fall protection during the rescue. He lost his balance and fell while unhooking a litter from beneath a hovering helicopter. Yet, the reason he died is far more complex. Nick was not wearing fall protection likely because of a common human tendency known as “normalization of risk” which is to become desensitized to the risk around us and subconsciously accept high levels of risk as being normal after continuously repeating the behavior without negative consequences. In many recent NPS fatalities, we found the same failure in our system to prevent employees from accepting unnecessary risk. The lesson for us all is to make it a practice to carefully reevaluate the risks we accept as normal—or even mundane—and to build in a margin for error, create and follow our written procedures, and provide and use our training. Managers and supervisors need to be watchful of the tendency of employees to “normalize” risks and must implement robust management and supervisory controls to prevent this from occurring in all types of field operations. We also have to look out for one another and to get beyond the apprehension of correcting our peers when we see them engaging or preparing to engage in behaviors that may get them or others hurt. When applied, the concepts in Operational Leadership should help to prevent these tragic accidents. We have trained 15,000 employees; now it’s time we implement what we have learned into our daily operations. I encourage all of you to read and learn from the lessons included in the Factual SAIT Report and Corrective Action Plan ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Yes, a very well done and excellent video of Honey Creek Cave. The video editing provided a continuos story. Great job to everyone involved. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
We at Greater Houston Grotto would give the same grade. Joe kindly came to the last Grotto meeting and presented it for us. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:46 am Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
RE: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Fabulous! Makes me homesick for the cave and Texas cavers. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:45 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave Without A Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ft underground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of the movie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the water drops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standing ovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earned their place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Totally agree. I missed the showing as I was setting up the group photo. I watched the video today and it is excellent. Jim On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Logan McNatt wrote: They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave Without A Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ft underground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of the movie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the water drops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standing ovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earned their place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Oh, James, sorry you missed seeing it at CWAN. But thanks again for doing the group photo! Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: James Jasek caver...@hot.rr.com To: lmcnatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:25 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Totally agree. I missed the showing as I was setting up the group photo. I watched the video today and it is excellent. Jim On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Logan McNatt wrote: They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave WithoutA Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ftunderground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of themovie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the waterdrops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standingovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earnedtheir place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
[Texascavers] a beach party summary
I am posting this as a blog, mostly to show a few photos. There were no cavers in attendance, but we had our best intentions to make it a caver party. We had a great weekend. http://david-locklear.blogspot.com/2013/06/a-summary-of-2013-texas-cavers-beach.html NaturFest Association has no other scheduled activities before our spring campout in early March of 2014. I doubt that will happen at Camp Happy Hollow, so we are tentatively planning an event at Lake Somerville.Please check us out on Facebook or Google+ as there are just too many cavers annoyed by invitations via email. https://www.facebook.com/groups/213300932024864/members/ https://plus.google.com/communities/41188928844592246 David Locklear
[Texascavers] Download No place on earth
I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
These websites exist and what they are doing is usually hosting a pirated copy of the film hosted on another third party server. By viewing these films (files) you are subjecting yourself to both the possibility of infecting your computer with a virus and possible consequences through both your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and or Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) which is a subset of homeland security. So take it or leave it, if I were wanting to go the illegal route (albeit many people are going this route) I would just download the torrent from a vetted source on any number of torrent tracker websites... just don't tell me about it ;) Herman Miller On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org --**--**- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscribe@**texascavers.comtexascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-help@texascavers.**comtexascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
You're absolutely right and to further back that up, Katherine Arens sent me an excellent article speaking to this particular company. See link below. Her recommendation: DON'T GO THERE. Mine, after reading the article: I'LL WAIT UNTIL I SEE IT'S OUT ON LEGIT DVD. http://www.pogo.net.au/2011/02/pirate-movies-landmark-case/ Thanks to all who replied. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 21:46:07 -0500 From: her...@cavechat.org To: mmin...@caver.net CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth These websites exist and what they are doing is usually hosting a pirated copy of the film hosted on another third party server. By viewing these films (files) you are subjecting yourself to both the possibility of infecting your computer with a virus and possible consequences through both your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and or Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) which is a subset of homeland security. So take it or leave it, if I were wanting to go the illegal route (albeit many people are going this route) I would just download the torrent from a vetted source on any number of torrent tracker websites... just don't tell me about it ;) Herman Miller On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 12:46:41 -0000 Issue 1768
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 12:46:41 - Issue 1768 Topics (messages 21872 through 21873): UT Grotto Meeting June 5th 21872 by: Andrea Croskrey Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video 21873 by: Speleosteele.aol.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Howdy Texas Cavers, This week the UT Grotto is pleased that Bev Shadehttps://www.facebook.com/bev.shade.7?directed_target_id=2231736016and David Ochel https://www.facebook.com/lostgravity?directed_target_id=2231736016will be sharing tales and photographs from the Tzontzecuiculi Expedition on Sierra Negra in Puebla, Mexico. See you Wednesday!UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message---
[Texascavers] FW: Save Bracken Update
Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the San Antonio government’s attention and they are now reaching out to us for meetings! The public support you have provided has given our cause more power. We are hopeful that we can figure out a solution, and are continuing visits with city officials and other elected individuals. Please continue to voice your opposition to the Galo Properties development by telling your family, friends, neighbors and co-workers about the threat to our Bracken Bats. Our “Save Bracken” petition is still active and check out our website, Facebook page, or Twitter (@Batconintl) for updates on how you can help BCI. And don't forget to share, share, share! Help us continue the fight - please consider donating $10 or more today to save Bracken and our bats. Thank you for being part of the team and protecting Bracken from the threat of the surrounding development. We have a long way to go but your support is invaluable. Sincerely, Andrew Walker Executive Director Bat Conservation International P.O. Box 162603 Austin, TX 78716 Phone: (512) 327-9721 | Fax: (512) 327-9724 | Email: i...@batcon.org Privacy Policy | Email Preferences Opt-out | Donate | Join us © Bat Conservation International, Inc. To avoid spam filters, don't forget to add our mailings to your Contacts and/or Safe list.
Re: [Texascavers] FW: Save Bracken Update
Wow, the power of the People is working. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Louise Power wrote: Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 eblastheaderlogodkblue.jpg San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success view.image Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the San Antonio government’s attention and they are now reaching out to us for meetings! The public support you have provided has given our cause more power. We are hopeful that we can figure out a solution, and are continuing visits with city officials and other elected individuals. Please continue to voice your opposition to the Galo Properties development by telling your family, friends, neighbors and co- workers about the threat to our Bracken Bats. Our “Save Bracken” petition is still active and check out our website, Facebook page, orTwitter (@Batconintl) for updates on how you can help BCI. And don't forget to share, share, share! Help us continue the fight - please consider donating $10 or more today to save Bracken and our bats. Thank you for being part of the team and protecting Bracken from the threat of the surrounding development. We have a long way to go but your support is invaluable. Sincerely, view.image view.image Andrew Walker Executive Director Bat Conservation International P.O. Box 162603 Austin, TX 78716 Phone: (512) 327-9721 | Fax: (512) 327-9724 | Email: i...@batcon.org Privacy Policy | Email Preferences Opt-out | Donate | Join us © Bat Conservation International, Inc. To avoid spam filters, don't forget to add our mailings to your Contacts and/or Safe list. smtp.mailopen
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 19:26:17 -0000 Issue 1769
texascavers Digest 4 Jun 2013 19:26:17 - Issue 1769 Topics (messages 21874 through 21879): Re: Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video 21874 by: James Jasek 21875 by: caverarch 21879 by: George Veni Re: Save Bracken Update 21876 by: Louise Power 21877 by: James Jasek Accident report, non-cave 21878 by: Louise Power Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Yes, a very well done and excellent video of Honey Creek Cave. The video editing provided a continuos story. Great job to everyone involved. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- We at Greater Houston Grotto would give the same grade. Joe kindly came to the last Grotto meeting and presented it for us. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:46 am Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Fabulous! Makes me homesick for the cave and Texas cavers. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:45 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Just an update for those who are non-BCI members. They done good at the SA City Council Meeting. From: i...@batcon.org Subject: Save Bracken Update To: power_lou...@hotmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:17 -0400 San Antonio's City Council Meeting was a Success Dear BCI Supporters: On Wednesday, May 29th, we spoke before the San Antonio City Council and a packed City Hall against the proposed Crescent Hills development next to Bracken Cave Preserve. We’d like to extend a big thank you to everyone who attended the meeting, signed the petition, sent letters, and made calls to city officials. We presented our 12-day old petition against the Crescent Hills development to the mayor and council at the meeting. With 13,300 signatures from more than 70 countries, our petition definitely made an impact. Letters from a number of our academic Bracken partners were also submitted calling for the protection of Bracken Cave. Representatives from Texas Parks, the San Antonio Zoo, the Army’s Camp Bullis, Audubon Texas, Sierra Club, Preserve Texas Heritage Association, the Heritage Group, and the Esperanza Peace and Justice Center were among the 61 people that testified in support and about the importance of Bracken Cave. Our closest partner in this effort, the Greater Edwards Aquifer Alliance, did a wonderful job explaining the aquifer-recharge issues associated with the development. BCI’s team received the evening’s only standing ovation. Following the meeting, we visited with supporters, journalists and city staff. The press’ interest continues to swell – we did seven radio, television, and newspaper interviews that night, bringing our two-week total to 12 stories, with more on the way. San Antonio’s largest daily paper, the San Antonio Express-News featured our story on the front page! The steady stream of letters and phone calls to elected officials has gotten the
[Texascavers] Green job in Austin
Sierra Club seeks Community Organizer. Sierra Club is looking to hire an experienced community organizer based in Austin, TX to help increase its grassroots power in the region. As a part of the history-making Beyond Coal campaign, s/he will help broaden the coalition to promote renewable energy and move beyond dirty, coal-fired power. This is an outstanding opportunity for an individual looking to enhanced his/her organizing skills and join a powerful, national team. For full details and to apply, please visit: https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH15/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=SIERRACLUBcws=1rid=277 Roger G. Moore
[SWR] Accident report, non-cave
The Department of the Interior employees all got this accident report this morning. The accident involved a Park Service Ranger who died last year during a rescue attempt. I know a lot of you are involved in rescues or at least dangerous transits, so I hope you'll pay attention to what the Serious Accident Investigation Team reported as the real cause of the death. I've highlighted it in yellow. Please cave and rescue safely. Your family and friends like having you around. June 4, 2013 Memorandum To: All Employees From: Director /s/ Jonathan B. Jarvis Subject: Nick Hall Serious Accident Report Released On June 21st of last year, Park Ranger Nick Hall fell to his death during the rescue of critically injured climbers at 13,800 ' elevation on Mount Rainier. Nick, a 33-year-old former U.S. Marine sergeant, was in his fourth season with the National Park Service (NPS). He was following his passion for the outdoors, having worked in various jobs that developed his expertise as a ski patroller, medical technician, and mountaineering and river ranger. Those who knew Nick describe a quiet, competent leader with a strong, commanding presence. The Serious Accident Investigation Team has completed its investigation and determined Nick died because he was not anchored with fall protection during the rescue. He lost his balance and fell while unhooking a litter from beneath a hovering helicopter. Yet, the reason he died is far more complex. Nick was not wearing fall protection likely because of a common human tendency known as “normalization of risk” which is to become desensitized to the risk around us and subconsciously accept high levels of risk as being normal after continuously repeating the behavior without negative consequences. In many recent NPS fatalities, we found the same failure in our system to prevent employees from accepting unnecessary risk. The lesson for us all is to make it a practice to carefully reevaluate the risks we accept as normal—or even mundane—and to build in a margin for error, create and follow our written procedures, and provide and use our training. Managers and supervisors need to be watchful of the tendency of employees to “normalize” risks and must implement robust management and supervisory controls to prevent this from occurring in all types of field operations. We also have to look out for one another and to get beyond the apprehension of correcting our peers when we see them engaging or preparing to engage in behaviors that may get them or others hurt. When applied, the concepts in Operational Leadership should help to prevent these tragic accidents. We have trained 15,000 employees; now it’s time we implement what we have learned into our daily operations. I encourage all of you to read and learn from the lessons included in the Factual SAIT Report and Corrective Action Plan ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Accident report, non-cave
I appreciate this reminder of watching out for your partners in all activities. So many accidents could be prevented if someone might just have said are you aware of _? or watch that _. I worked in a large coal strip mine with 400 union personnel mining and crushing 4 million tons per year. We had an ongoing accident problem that finally got turned around when our safety training revolved around watching out for the other guy. This made our own lax habits more clear to each of us because we were probably doing the same simple careless things. We went that 1st year without any lost time accidents. I also worked in tower construction and we applied the same principles with great success. It is the little things that usually cause accidents. To overcome ego challenges it helps to remind the person that there is someone in their life that would like them to come home at the end of their shift. I have climbed Rainier and other peaks and know how in an instant everything can go wrong due to a simple oversight. We try very hard to practice these principals in our caving activities. Rob Wood Mesilla Valley Grotto On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: The Department of the Interior employees all got this accident report this morning. The accident involved a Park Service Ranger who died last year during a rescue attempt. I know a lot of you are involved in rescues or at least dangerous transits, so I hope you'll pay attention to what the Serious Accident Investigation Team reported as the real cause of the death. I've highlighted it in yellow. Please cave and rescue safely. Your family and friends like having you around. June 4, 2013 Memorandum To: All Employees From: Director /s/ Jonathan B. Jarvis Subject: Nick Hall Serious Accident Report Released On June 21st of last year, Park Ranger Nick Hall fell to his death during the rescue of critically injured climbers at 13,800 ' elevation on Mount Rainier. Nick, a 33-year-old former U.S. Marine sergeant, was in his fourth season with the National Park Service (NPS). He was following his passion for the outdoors, having worked in various jobs that developed his expertise as a ski patroller, medical technician, and mountaineering and river ranger. Those who knew Nick describe a quiet, competent leader with a strong, commanding presence. The Serious Accident Investigation Team has completed its investigation and determined Nick died because he was not anchored with fall protection during the rescue. He lost his balance and fell while unhooking a litter from beneath a hovering helicopter. Yet, the reason he died is far more complex. Nick was not wearing fall protection likely because of a common human tendency known as “normalization of risk” which is to become desensitized to the risk around us and subconsciously accept high levels of risk as being normal after continuously repeating the behavior without negative consequences. In many recent NPS fatalities, we found the same failure in our system to prevent employees from accepting unnecessary risk. The lesson for us all is to make it a practice to carefully reevaluate the risks we accept as normal—or even mundane—and to build in a margin for error, create and follow our written procedures, and provide and use our training. Managers and supervisors need to be watchful of the tendency of employees to “normalize” risks and must implement robust management and supervisory controls to prevent this from occurring in all types of field operations. We also have to look out for one another and to get beyond the apprehension of correcting our peers when we see them engaging or preparing to engage in behaviors that may get them or others hurt. When applied, the concepts in Operational Leadership should help to prevent these tragic accidents. We have trained 15,000 employees; now it’s time we implement what we have learned into our daily operations. I encourage all of you to read and learn from the lessons included in the Factual SAIT Report and Corrective Action Plan ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Yes, a very well done and excellent video of Honey Creek Cave. The video editing provided a continuos story. Great job to everyone involved. James Jasek On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
We at Greater Houston Grotto would give the same grade. Joe kindly came to the last Grotto meeting and presented it for us. Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com To: Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 7:46 am Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
RE: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Fabulous! Makes me homesick for the cave and Texas cavers. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: speleoste...@aol.com [mailto:speleoste...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:45 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave Without A Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ft underground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of the movie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the water drops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standing ovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earned their place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Totally agree. I missed the showing as I was setting up the group photo. I watched the video today and it is excellent. Jim On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Logan McNatt wrote: They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave Without A Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ft underground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of the movie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the water drops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standing ovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earned their place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video
Oh, James, sorry you missed seeing it at CWAN. But thanks again for doing the group photo! Roger G. Moore -Original Message- From: James Jasek caver...@hot.rr.com To: lmcnatt lmcn...@austin.rr.com Cc: Speleosteele speleoste...@aol.com; Texascavers Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 9:25 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Thumbs up on Honey Creek Cave video Totally agree. I missed the showing as I was setting up the group photo. I watched the video today and it is excellent. Jim On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Logan McNatt wrote: They showed the video in April at the TSA Convention in Cave WithoutA Name. Appropriate place for the premiere, about 85 ftunderground. The 100+ cavers were so quiet during most of themovie, especially the dive sequences, that I could hear the waterdrops landing in the big room. It got a well-deserved standingovation. Jean, James, and everyone involved in the project earnedtheir place in Texas caving history for this accomplishment! Logan On 6/4/2013 7:44 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote: Last night the link to a new in-depth video about the big Honey Creek Cave, Texas' longest cave, Tank Haul Extravaganza that happened in January of this year was posted on James Brown's Facebook page. It's 40 minutes long and very well done. I know that I'm impressed. Edited by Joe Furman. http://youtu.be/kG-sSnoXzYU A+ if you ask me. Cavingly, Bill Steele
[Texascavers] a beach party summary
I am posting this as a blog, mostly to show a few photos. There were no cavers in attendance, but we had our best intentions to make it a caver party. We had a great weekend. http://david-locklear.blogspot.com/2013/06/a-summary-of-2013-texas-cavers-beach.html NaturFest Association has no other scheduled activities before our spring campout in early March of 2014. I doubt that will happen at Camp Happy Hollow, so we are tentatively planning an event at Lake Somerville.Please check us out on Facebook or Google+ as there are just too many cavers annoyed by invitations via email. https://www.facebook.com/groups/213300932024864/members/ https://plus.google.com/communities/41188928844592246 David Locklear
[Texascavers] Download No place on earth
I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise
Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
These websites exist and what they are doing is usually hosting a pirated copy of the film hosted on another third party server. By viewing these films (files) you are subjecting yourself to both the possibility of infecting your computer with a virus and possible consequences through both your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and or Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) which is a subset of homeland security. So take it or leave it, if I were wanting to go the illegal route (albeit many people are going this route) I would just download the torrent from a vetted source on any number of torrent tracker websites... just don't tell me about it ;) Herman Miller On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org --**--**- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscribe@**texascavers.comtexascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-help@texascavers.**comtexascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth
You're absolutely right and to further back that up, Katherine Arens sent me an excellent article speaking to this particular company. See link below. Her recommendation: DON'T GO THERE. Mine, after reading the article: I'LL WAIT UNTIL I SEE IT'S OUT ON LEGIT DVD. http://www.pogo.net.au/2011/02/pirate-movies-landmark-case/ Thanks to all who replied. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 21:46:07 -0500 From: her...@cavechat.org To: mmin...@caver.net CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Download No place on earth These websites exist and what they are doing is usually hosting a pirated copy of the film hosted on another third party server. By viewing these films (files) you are subjecting yourself to both the possibility of infecting your computer with a virus and possible consequences through both your Internet Service Provider (ISP) and or Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) which is a subset of homeland security. So take it or leave it, if I were wanting to go the illegal route (albeit many people are going this route) I would just download the torrent from a vetted source on any number of torrent tracker websites... just don't tell me about it ;) Herman Miller On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote: For what it's worth, when I tried to go to that URL, my McAfee SiteAdvisor software http://www.siteadvisor.com/ gave it a red X and said it was a dangerous site. I think I'll skip it. Mark At 09:15 PM 6/4/2013, Louise Power wrote: I was just looking for an old movie which I wanted to download and ran across this site: http://movieberry.com Does anyone know anything about this site? I read through their faq and some of their other stuff and they sound pretty reliable. One thing I noticed (in addition to the movie I was looking for) is the fact that they're going to have No Place on Earth for downloading or for viewing (Netflix, I think) soon. Just think, no more 50-mile trips to see it. Let me know if you've dealt with them or know anything about the business. Little concerned about dealing with a new company I don't know anything about. Louise Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
