Re: [Texascavers] Cave of Adams

[Logan McNatt]

  
  
Bill, thanks for your input. In the labyrinth of lexicology, you are
certainly one of the Wizards--Well done.
LowGun 

On 5/28/2018 7:01 PM, Mixon Bill wrote:


  That pesky apostrophe! Strictly speaking, if one wants the possessive form of the cave name, neither Adam's (puts it in the middle of the poor guy's name) nor Adams' (Adams is not plural) is correct. It should have been Adams's Cave. -- Mixon

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[Texascavers] Adams's Cave

[David]

Logan,

I am surprised with your humorous sarcastic dating of the cave was at only
4,000 B.C.

I think most of the scientist that lean towards that crazy theory use
8,000ish B.C.

On the walls of the Memorial Student Center at A is the very map of human
history by Adams himself.   It is or was a fascinating artsy timeline
showing the rational for the theory

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~226099~5505934:Composite--Adams--Synchronological-

http://www.worldhistorycharts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/adams-synchronological-map-of-history.jpg

I think some of the hard-core fanatics of that chart are willing to admit
that the chart could really reflect 20,000 years of human history.


I am more interested in the details of the definition of "omnipotence".
To me, that not only infers time-travel, but even more exciting - the
ability create and travel thru multiple parallell universes.   Homo sapiens
are so arrogant in their belief that they are at the top of the food chain,
when we may not even grasp "parallel-space," or thousands of dimensions.

We may have even come here from another dimension due to a freak accident.

D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] Adams Cave

[George D. Nincehelser]

It comes down to a matter of style.  Personally, I'd opt for "Adams' Cave".

This is an interesting read on the subject:
https://www.dailywritingtips.com/possessive-of-proper-names-ending-in-s/

george.nincehel...@gmail.com


On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Mixon Bill  wrote:
> That pesky apostrophe! Strictly speaking, if one wants the possessive form of 
> the cave name, neither Adam's (puts it in the middle of the poor guy's name) 
> nor Adams' (Adams is not plural) is correct. It should have been Adams's 
> Cave. -- Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate (correct) cave names

[Logan McNatt]

  
  
Carl, thanks for the correction. I had always assumed it was named
Adam's Cave because the cave had formed approx. 4,004 years B.C.,
and the pictograph inside the entrance was painted by one of the
first humans, who lived in the entrance shelter. In fact (or not)
the human bones found in the Sirion River may be his--the deepest
human bones recovered in North America (170 m below surface).

Although your explanation of the name's origin is no doubt correct,
the simple placement of an apostrophe can have serious ramifications
in the interpretation of a cave, especially this one.

LowGun

See also:
Steele, D. Gentry, K. B. Byrd, L McNatt, and G. Veni 1984
Human and Non-Human Skeletal Remains Recovered from Sorcerer's Cave,
Terrell County, Texas. Texas Journal of Science, 36:169-184.


On 5/28/2018 1:37 PM, Carl Kunath
  wrote:


  
  

  Adams’ Cave:
   
  Logan, it was NEVER properly called Adam’s Cave.  The
cave was first explored in 1962 when it was named Adams’
Cave because Leo Adams was in control of the property at
that time.  It was reported to the NSS as Adams’ Cave.  It
went into the TSS archives as Adams’ Cave.  The San Antonio
cavers likely learned of its existence because they read
about Adams’ Cave in The Caves of the Stockton Plateau,
a 1968 Texas Speleological Survey publication.  It was
discussed for the next 15+ years as Adams’ Cave.  
   
  Maybe we should rename Powell’s Cave as Treasure Cave, or
something thought more “catchy” than the name of the owner. 
After a lapse of a few more years, if a surveying program is
initiated, a new name could be chosen.
   
  ===Carl Kunath
  carl.kun...@suddenlink.net
  

   
  
From: Logan McNatt 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:06 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave
  place names
  

 
  
  In the
stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally
called Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m
waterfall into a plunge pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the
San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an unplanned dip into
the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of
the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details
if requested.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com

On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark
  Minton wrote:


  Bill
Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another
similarly appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it
was in the Buenavista Mine at Minas Viejas. Brian Burton
(RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. The
dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a
100-foot shaft. We have no idea why the dog did that;
best guess is that it thought it was a pool of water. We
named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.
  
   
  Mark Minton
  mmin...@caver.net
  
  
   
  On Fri, May
25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
wrote:
   
  Tennessee
caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978
and fractured his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry
Sayther’s caving truck up into a military C130 cargo
plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to
rescue him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

Bill Steele
  
  
  
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[Texascavers] Adams Cave

[Mixon Bill]

That pesky apostrophe! Strictly speaking, if one wants the possessive form of 
the cave name, neither Adam's (puts it in the middle of the poor guy's name) 
nor Adams' (Adams is not plural) is correct. It should have been Adams's Cave. 
-- Mixon

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Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

[Julia Germany]

Thanks for the update.

Would be great to go back and work on that project. Fond memories of being a 
dive team Sherpa.  



- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: ju...@trigrants.com

On May 28, 2018, at 15:12, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:

Creature and James Brown dove upstream and there are still more sumps to do 
there. Downstream has never been dove. Is a bit more challenging because it is 
more than twice the distance but also because you can float all of the gear 
upstream but have to carry it downstream because the water is too shallow for 
floating in most stretches.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)

Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

UIS address:
Titov trg 2
6230 Postojna
Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Julia Germany
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:31
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

Hi George!

I thought Creature completed the sump surveys?
- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: ju...@trigrants.com

On May 28, 2018, at 12:45, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:
Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and 
Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we 
broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream 
passage.

We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we 
found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later 
trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and 
downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)

Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

UIS address:
Titov trg 2
6230 Postojna
Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Logan McNatt
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called 
Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge 
pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an 
unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of 
the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com
On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly 
appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at 
Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. 
The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We 
have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool 
of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.



Mark Minton

mmin...@caver.net





On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured 
his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a 
military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue 
him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

Bill Steele





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Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

[George Veni]

Creature and James Brown dove upstream and there are still more sumps to do 
there. Downstream has never been dove. Is a bit more challenging because it is 
more than twice the distance but also because you can float all of the gear 
upstream but have to carry it downstream because the water is too shallow for 
floating in most stretches.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)

Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

UIS address:
Titov trg 2
6230 Postojna
Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Julia Germany
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 12:31
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

Hi George!

I thought Creature completed the sump surveys?
- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: ju...@trigrants.com

On May 28, 2018, at 12:45, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:
Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and 
Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we 
broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream 
passage.

We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we 
found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later 
trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and 
downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)

Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

UIS address:
Titov trg 2
6230 Postojna
Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Logan McNatt
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called 
Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge 
pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an 
unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of 
the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com
On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly 
appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at 
Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. 
The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We 
have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool 
of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.



Mark Minton

mmin...@caver.net





On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured 
his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a 
military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue 
him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

Bill Steele





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Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

[George Veni]

Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and 
Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we 
broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream 
passage.

We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we 
found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later 
trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and 
downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)

Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

UIS address:
Titov trg 2
6230 Postojna
Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Logan McNatt
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called 
Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge 
pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an 
unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of 
the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com
On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly 
appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at 
Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. 
The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We 
have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool 
of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.



Mark Minton

mmin...@caver.net





On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured 
his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a 
military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue 
him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

Bill Steele




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Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

[Mark Minton]

Gary Poole also has a place named for him in Honey Creek: Poole's Pool. We were 
surveying beyond the Trifurcation in waist- to chest-deep water. Gary was 
sketching and suddenly stepped off into a deep pothole. He went in over his 
head, but managed to keep the book dry by holding one arm up over his head. 
That single hand with the book sticking out of the water looked like "Thing" on 
the Addams Family.

In Cueva de la Peña (SLP, Mexico) Jeff Horowitz dropped a coil of rope into a 
deep pothole full of water at the base of a short drop. He managed to retrieve 
the rope after diving for it. That place became known as Horowitz Sunk. 

Then there's the "Can You Stay Dry" passage in Joya de Salas. There was a deep 
pool covered with scuzzy organic debris that one could tiptoe around on skinny 
ledges while doing an undercling on small nubbins. It was a totally committing 
move, because you had to lean back over the water. If it worked, you got off 
dry, but if you missed a foot- or handhold, you got totally submerged. More 
than one person took the plunge, as did another coil of rope. We finally got 
the rope back by fishing it out with a tent stake lashed to a pole.

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net


On Mon, 28 May, 2018 at 1:44 PM, George Veni  wrote:
 

To: texascavers@texascavers.com


Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and 
Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we 
broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream 
passage.
 
We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we 
found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later 
trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and 
downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving.
 
George
 


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)
 
Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org 
 
UIS address:
Titov trg 2
6230 Postojna
Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org
 


From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Logan McNatt
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names
 
In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called 
Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge 
pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an 
unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of 
the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com

On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly 
appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at 
Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. 
The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We 
have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool 
of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.
Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured 
his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a 
military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue 
him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

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Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

[Julia Germany]

Hi George!

I thought Creature completed the sump surveys?

- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: ju...@trigrants.com

On May 28, 2018, at 12:45, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:

Actually, Logan’s description pretty much says it all. A handhold broke and 
Gary made the first descent of the waterfall. That was in October 1979 when we 
broke the Texas depth record and on our first exploration of that lovely stream 
passage.

We were too excited to be phased by the plunge, but were disappointed when we 
found a sump around the corner. We bypassed it via an upper level on a later 
trip, found a second sump that we also bypassed by climbing high, and 
downstream exploration remains stopped at a third sump that will need diving.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President
International Union of Speleology (UIS)

Direct address at NCKRI
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: +1-575-887-5517
Mobile: +1-210-863-5919
Fax: +1-575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Logan McNatt
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:06
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

In the stream passage at the bottom of Sorcerer's Cave (originally called 
Adam's Cave) in Terrell County, TX, there is a 1.5 m waterfall into a plunge 
pool. During a 1978/79 survey by the San Antonio Grotto (SAG), a caver took an 
unplanned dip into the pool. The place was christened Poole Plunge in honor of 
the caver--Gary Poole. George Veni can provide more details if requested.

Logan McNatt
lmcn...@austin.rr.com
On 5/28/2018 9:25 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly 
appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at 
Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. 
The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We 
have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool 
of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.



Mark Minton

mmin...@caver.net





On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
mailto:cwilliamste...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured 
his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a 
military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue 
him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

Bill Steele




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Re: [Texascavers] Brinco Rescue

[Julia Germany]

Would love to see a pic of Ediger’s truck with below mentioned accoutrements!

- from julia's cell

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> On May 27, 2018, at 14:28, "speodes...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
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> Complete with toilet seat on hood with Hitler mannequin and ceiling fan in 
> the camper. 
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[Texascavers] Appropriate cave place names

[Mark Minton]

Bill Steele's mention of Kerr Plunk reminded me of another similarly 
appropriate place name in a cave. Actually, it was in the Buenavista Mine at 
Minas Viejas. Brian Burton (RIP) had his dog along on one trip into the mine. 
The dog suddenly raced ahead and jumped to its death down a 100-foot shaft. We 
have no idea why the dog did that; best guess is that it thought it was a pool 
of water. We named the shaft Dog Gone Pit.



Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net




On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Bill Steele 
> wrote:


Tennessee caver Chris Kerr fell in Sistema Purificacion in 1978 and fractured 
his femur. Cavers from Austin drove Terry Sayther’s caving truck up into a 
military C130 cargo plane and were flown to Victoria, Tamps., Mexico to rescue 
him. The spot where he fell is named Kerr Plunk.

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