Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Geary Schindel via Texascavers]

Thought I would reply to the Sleeze's post which I generally find some of the 
best written stuff in my email box. I wish he would put together a collective 
works of the Sleezeweasel and publish it somewhere. I would buy a couple of 
copies.

However, I did want to point out something related to deleting the replies to 
the replies from previous posts. Considering that I get a ton of emails every 
day from a huge assortment of folks and receive the Texas Caves as individual 
posts and not the daily digest, I actually appreciate having the original email 
thread at the bottom of the post as it allows me to place the responder's 
comments in context - sort of like a complete reference. I don't know how many 
emails I get from folks that have deleted the original post they are replying 
to and you can't make any sense of the post without reading the entire thread. 
By that time, I've usually deleted the original post so don't have a clue what 
they are talking about or can't find it.

So, some of us like the snot at the bottom of the article (included below on 
purpose).

Respectfully submitted.

Geary
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of via 
Texascavers
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 12:05 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

The caving community, like many other special interest groups, is largely 
composed of humorless fools who take their absurd pursuits seriously. Let me 
remind you again that we are talking about crawling into holes in the ground, 
something that most rational persons would consider to be insane.

As Stefan has pointed out, more verbiage has been wasted on complaints than on 
the original offending off topic comments by one of our more colorful albeit 
crackpot commentators.

A far greater problem is those who find some particular posting to be 
irrelevant and complain about the time required to read it who then proceed so 
simply "Reply" to the list without editing out the replies to the replies to 
the replies.

It has been repeatedly suggested that those who do not wish to read a post 
simply delete it. I would go further and request that before responding you 
delete all the truly irrelevant repetitive information that dangles from the 
end of your post like a snottite. Please note that in this reply I have quoted 
nothing other than the title of the offending post.

I personally think that Charles has done a great job of moderating this forum, 
he is even more moderate than Obama! I would request of him that he remove from 
this list any and all persons who repeatedly reply to this list without 
truncating the appended gibberish including all those who include some 
signature drivel at the end such as a quote from some famous person or a 
statement of their personal beliefs.

As to those who voluntarily leave the list because of a lack of time or some 
imagined insult good riddance! You've got plenty of time otherwise you wouldn't 
have time to talk about crawling into holes in the ground.

In other words, always cut out the crap, never fail to sign your posts, and 
never append any unnecessary nonsense after your name. Like this.

Sleazeweazel

In a message dated 7/9/2016 12:00:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> writes:
Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
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[Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[via Texascavers]

The caving community, like many other special interest groups, is  largely 
composed of humorless fools who take their absurd pursuits seriously.  Let 
me remind you again that we are talking about crawling into holes in the  
ground, something that most rational persons would consider to be insane. 
 
As Stefan has pointed out, more verbiage has been wasted on complaints than 
 on the original offending off topic comments by one of our more colorful 
albeit  crackpot commentators. 
 
A far greater problem is those who find some particular posting to be  
irrelevant and complain about the time required to read it who then  proceed so 
simply "Reply" to the list without editing out the replies to  the replies 
to the replies. 
 
It has been repeatedly suggested that those who do not wish to read a  post 
simply delete it. I would go further and request that before responding you 
 delete all the truly irrelevant repetitive information that dangles from 
the end  of your post like a snottite. Please note that in this reply I have 
quoted  nothing other than the title of the offending post. 
 
I personally think that Charles has done a great job of moderating this  
forum, he is even more moderate than Obama! I would request of him that he  
remove from this list any and all persons who repeatedly reply to this list  
without truncating the appended gibberish including all those who include 
some  signature drivel at the end such as a quote from some famous person or a  
statement of their personal beliefs. 
 
As to those who voluntarily leave the list because of a lack of time or  
some imagined insult good riddance! You've got plenty of time otherwise you  
wouldn't have time to talk about crawling into holes in the ground. 
 
In other words, always cut out the crap, never fail to sign your posts, and 
 never append any unnecessary nonsense after your name. Like this.
 
Sleazeweazel
 
 
In a message dated 7/9/2016 12:00:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
texascavers@texascavers.com writes:

Can  Locklear please restrain himself  !!

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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[mark gee via Texascavers]

I think you should read what you want and delete what you don't want to read. 
Every now and then he does write about things of interest. Get along, we all 
have a great privilege to use the internet for many enjoyable things. David is 
and interesting person with many interest.Sometimes  

On Friday, July 8, 2016 1:30 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
 wrote:
 

 Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, unsubscribed 
from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David Locklear. I’m 
about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my inbox 
with list-inappropriate posts.Can those of you who like David please counsel 
him on list etiquette and suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic 
posts?Thanks,Frank BinneyNSS 10816 fellowi...@frankbinney.com

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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Don Arburn via Texascavers]

Exactly!
--Don

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> You know it’s Friday when…
>  
> The number of posts complaining about the number of posts David makes… 
> exceeds the number of posts David makes.
>  
> Cheers,
> Stefan Creaser
> Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM
> 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA.
> Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
> Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser
>  
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 3:35 PM
> To: Cavetex
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
>  
> Oh come on Bill, you know you wanna :)
>  
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bill Bentley - ca...@caver.net via 
> Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> Yes take it over... LOL... been there done that... Thank you but no... I just 
> delete.
> Bill Bentley
> ca...@caver.net 
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
> Date: 7/8/16 3:29 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: Cavetex <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
> 
> We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html
>  
> David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.
>  
> I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that this 
> list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has sent out, 
> send them a private message if possible. 
>  
> If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and 
> take over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a 
> message and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.
>  
> Charles
> list owner
> wo...@justfamily.org
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> Hi Frank!
> 
> We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any 
> other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not  
> in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.
> 
> I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," 
> "delete now if you don't want to read it."
> 
> However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for 
> the purpose of cave-related posts.
> 
> I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book 
> pages.
> 
> Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David post 
> any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps, even 
> politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues to 
> improperly use this listserv.
> 
> julia
> 
> 
> 
> - from julia's cell
> 
> Julia G Germany
> c: 281.979.9208
> e: germa...@aol.com
> 
> > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
> > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> > Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
> > caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
> > unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from 
> > David Locklear.
> > I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
> > inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
> > Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
> > suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
> > Thanks,
> > Frank Binney
> > NSS 10816 Fellow
> > i...@frankbinney.com
> >
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Scott C via Texascavers]

ROFLMAO!!! Hilarious, Stefan :) 

Scott Cogburn :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> You know it’s Friday when…
>  
> The number of posts complaining about the number of posts David makes… 
> exceeds the number of posts David makes.
>  
> Cheers,
> Stefan Creaser
> Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM
> 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA.
> Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
> Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser
>  
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 3:35 PM
> To: Cavetex
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
>  
> Oh come on Bill, you know you wanna :)
>  
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bill Bentley - ca...@caver.net via 
> Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> Yes take it over... LOL... been there done that... Thank you but no... I just 
> delete.
> Bill Bentley
> ca...@caver.net 
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
> Date: 7/8/16 3:29 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: Cavetex <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
> 
> We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html
>  
> David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.
>  
> I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that this 
> list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has sent out, 
> send them a private message if possible. 
>  
> If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and 
> take over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a 
> message and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.
>  
> Charles
> list owner
> wo...@justfamily.org
>  
>  
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> Hi Frank!
> 
> We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any 
> other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not  
> in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.
> 
> I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," 
> "delete now if you don't want to read it."
> 
> However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for 
> the purpose of cave-related posts.
> 
> I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book 
> pages.
> 
> Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David post 
> any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps, even 
> politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues to 
> improperly use this listserv.
> 
> julia
> 
> 
> 
> - from julia's cell
> 
> Julia G Germany
> c: 281.979.9208
> e: germa...@aol.com
> 
> > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
> > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> > Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
> > caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
> > unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from 
> > David Locklear.
> > I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
> > inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
> > Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
> > suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
> > Thanks,
> > Frank Binney
> > NSS 10816 Fellow
> > i...@frankbinney.com
> >
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Nancy Weaver via Texascavers]

why does this keep happening?  david posts a few messages, then the inevitable 
flood of detractors fill up MY inbox.  I so prefer Davids and when I’m not in 
the mood, surprise, I delete them.

Nancy


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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Julia Germany via Texascavers]

Hi Charles!

Many thanks for posting the rules. I am sure I must have read them in the way 
back when I first joined.

Having not read these rules in many years, I made the wrong assumption that 
topics posted here must be cave(r)-related.

Like you, I take advantage of the warning David provides to "delete now" if I 
am not interested.

Again, thank you for re-posting the link to the 4 simple rules to follow while 
a member of this listserv.

And, many thanks for remaining our thoughtful moderator. I very much appreciate 
the time you put into making this listserv function. 

Happy caving!
julia 

- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: germa...@aol.com

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 15:29, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html
> 
> David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.
> 
> I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that this 
> list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has sent out, 
> send them a private message if possible. 
> 
> If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and 
> take over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a 
> message and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.
> 
> Charles
> list owner
> wo...@justfamily.org
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Frank!
>> 
>> We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any 
>> other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not  
>> in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.
>> 
>> I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," 
>> "delete now if you don't want to read it."
>> 
>> However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for 
>> the purpose of cave-related posts.
>> 
>> I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book 
>> pages.
>> 
>> Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David 
>> post any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps, 
>> even politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues 
>> to improperly use this listserv.
>> 
>> julia
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - from julia's cell
>> 
>> Julia G Germany
>> c: 281.979.9208
>> e: germa...@aol.com
>> 
>> > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
>> > caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
>> > unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from 
>> > David Locklear.
>> > I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded 
>> > my inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
>> > Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
>> > suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Frank Binney
>> > NSS 10816 Fellow
>> > i...@frankbinney.com
>> >
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Stefan Creaser via Texascavers]

You know it’s Friday when…

The number of posts complaining about the number of posts David makes… exceeds 
the number of posts David makes.

Cheers,
Stefan Creaser
Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM
5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA.
Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com<mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com>. Skype: 
stefan_creaser

From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 3:35 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

Oh come on Bill, you know you wanna :)

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bill Bentley - 
ca...@caver.net<mailto:ca...@caver.net> via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
Yes take it over... LOL... been there done that... Thank you but no... I just 
delete.
Bill Bentley
ca...@caver.net<mailto:ca...@caver.net>



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>
Date: 7/8/16 3:29 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Cavetex <texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html

David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.

I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that this 
list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has sent out, 
send them a private message if possible.

If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and take 
over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a message 
and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.

Charles
list owner
wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
Hi Frank!

We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any 
other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not  
in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.

I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," 
"delete now if you don't want to read it."

However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for 
the purpose of cave-related posts.

I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book pages.

Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David post 
any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps, even 
politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues to 
improperly use this listserv.

julia



- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: germa...@aol.com<mailto:germa...@aol.com>

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:
>
> Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
> caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
> unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David 
> Locklear.
> I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
> inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
> Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
> suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
> Thanks,
> Frank Binney
> NSS 10816 Fellow
> i...@frankbinney.com<mailto:i...@frankbinney.com>
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

Oh come on Bill, you know you wanna :)

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bill Bentley - ca...@caver.net via
Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Yes take it over... LOL... been there done that... Thank you but no... I
> just delete.
> Bill Bentley
> ca...@caver.net
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
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>  Original message 
> From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Date: 7/8/16 3:29 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Cavetex <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
>
> We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html
>
> David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.
>
> I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that
> this list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has
> sent out, send them a private message if possible.
>
> If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and
> take over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a
> message and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.
>
> Charles
> list owner
> wo...@justfamily.org
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Frank!
>>
>> We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or
>> any other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are
>> not  in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.
>>
>> I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say
>> "off-topic," "delete now if you don't want to read it."
>>
>> However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used
>> for the purpose of cave-related posts.
>>
>> I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book
>> pages.
>>
>> Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David
>> post any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps,
>> even politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues
>> to improperly use this listserv.
>>
>> julia
>>
>>
>>
>> - from julia's cell
>>
>> Julia G Germany
>> c: 281.979.9208
>> e: germa...@aol.com
>>
>> > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving
>> and caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately,
>> unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from
>> David Locklear.
>> > I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has
>> flooded my inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
>> > Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette
>> and suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Frank Binney
>> > NSS 10816 Fellow
>> > i...@frankbinney.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Bill Bentley - ca...@caver.net via Texascavers]

Yes take it over... LOL... been there done that... Thank you but no... I just 
delete.Bill bentleyca...@caver.net 


Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone

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From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
Date: 7/8/16  3:29 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Cavetex <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !! 

We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html
David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.
I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that this 
list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has sent out, 
send them a private message if possible. 
If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and take 
over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a message 
and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.
Charleslist ownerwo...@justfamily.org

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
Hi Frank!



We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any 
other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not  
in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.



I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," 
"delete now if you don't want to read it."



However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for 
the purpose of cave-related posts.



I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book pages.



Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David post 
any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps, even 
politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues to 
improperly use this listserv.



julia







- from julia's cell



Julia G Germany

c: 281.979.9208

e: germa...@aol.com



> On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

>

> Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
> caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
> unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David 
> Locklear.

> I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
> inbox with list-inappropriate posts.

> Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
> suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?

> Thanks,

> Frank Binney

> NSS 10816 Fellow

> i...@frankbinney.com

>

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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html

David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob.

I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it.  I've always stated that
this list is self moderated.  If you don't like a post that someone has
sent out, send them a private message if possible.

If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and
take over, including hosting and paying.  Or, it's just easier to delete a
message and go about enjoying your day.  Personally, that's what I do.

Charles
list owner
wo...@justfamily.org


On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Hi Frank!
>
> We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or
> any other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are
> not  in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.
>
> I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic,"
> "delete now if you don't want to read it."
>
> However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used
> for the purpose of cave-related posts.
>
> I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book
> pages.
>
> Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David
> post any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps,
> even politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues
> to improperly use this listserv.
>
> julia
>
>
>
> - from julia's cell
>
> Julia G Germany
> c: 281.979.9208
> e: germa...@aol.com
>
> > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> > Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and
> caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately,
> unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from
> David Locklear.
> > I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded
> my inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
> > Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and
> suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
> > Thanks,
> > Frank Binney
> > NSS 10816 Fellow
> > i...@frankbinney.com
> >
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Julia Germany via Texascavers]

Hi Frank!

We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any 
other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not  
in/from Texas. And, who don't know David.

I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," 
"delete now if you don't want to read it."

However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for 
the purpose of cave-related posts.

I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book pages.

Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David post 
any non-cave related information on these other sites.  And, perhaps, even 
politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues to 
improperly use this listserv.

julia 



- from julia's cell

Julia G Germany
c: 281.979.9208
e: germa...@aol.com

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
> caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
> unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David 
> Locklear. 
> I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
> inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
> Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
> suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
> Thanks,
> Frank Binney
> NSS 10816 Fellow
> i...@frankbinney.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Bob Oakley via Texascavers]

frank,
you better be careful speaking about St. locklear  in an unflattering manner.
seems like his father owns this list and will speak to you harshly and even 
threaten you with banishment for speaking about the chosen one in a non 
flattering manner
do not ask me how I know
do not ask Charlie loving either..
Bob  Oakley
 
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:30:19 -0700
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
From: texascavers@texascavers.com

Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, unsubscribed 
from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David Locklear. I’m 
about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my inbox 
with list-inappropriate posts.Can those of you who like David please counsel 
him on list etiquette and suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic 
posts?Thanks,Frank BinneyNSS 10816 fellowi...@frankbinney.com


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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Roger Moore (cavera...@aol.com) via Texascavers]

Or rather...


Roger G. Moore
NSS 12548RL


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From: Frank Binney via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 1:31 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!



Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, unsubscribed 
from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David Locklear. 
I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
Thanks,
Frank Binney
NSS 10816 Fellow
i...@frankbinney.com


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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[via Texascavers]

Oh, I don't know, Frank. I think there is a greater need being served by 
allowing such posts to occur without rancor. Some find them interesting and 
amusing, and it's always easy to punch the delete key. If it's so inconvenient 
to clean out your inbox of uninvited martial that is disagreeable, you may need 
to examine some of your own demons.

Jerry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
 wrote:

> Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
> caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, 
> unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David 
> Locklear. 
> I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
> inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
> Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
> suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
> Thanks,
> Frank Binney
> NSS 10816 Fellow
> i...@frankbinney.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Roger Moore (cavera...@aol.com) via Texascavers]

David, enough! Find another, more appropriate forum.


Roger G. Moore
NAA 12548RL



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From: Frank Binney via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
To: Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 1:31 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!



Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and 
caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, unsubscribed 
from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from David Locklear. 
I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my 
inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and 
suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
Thanks,
Frank Binney
NSS 10816 Fellow
i...@frankbinney.com


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[Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!

[Frank Binney via Texascavers]

Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and
caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately,
unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from
David Locklear. 
I¹m about to join them, as David¹s recent return to the list has flooded my
inbox with list-inappropriate posts.
Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and
suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts?
Thanks,
Frank Binney
NSS 10816 Fellow
i...@frankbinney.com



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