Envious nature

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty
Respected sir,
You have revealed. Mr Rajaram is envious- I have also observed. Otherwise this 
much of negations must not have come from him. He is not able to tolerate more 
qualified criticize him. It is also obvious from his responses with Bala N 
iyer. 

Gopalakrishnan

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Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty
 Dear Mr Sekar,
Thank you for reading the posting and responding with BRIEF ADDITIONS.

Even in the primary class we are taught-"Matha, Pitha, Guru, Deivam" telling 
the name Matha first.If one has performed Gaya srardha, he may remember, it is 
the only occasion srardha is performed to Mother, offering pinda to each month 
she carried us in her womb. While the sasthrikal explains and tell the manthra 
to recite- 100% cannot offer pinda with out tears in the eyes. Some cry also.
My mother's only wish was she should leave the word as "Sumangali". Prior to 
her no lady died as sumangali. She died as Sumangali. 

I do not know why, after her also, no lady died as Sumangali in our family 
group(Blood relations). Most dead after 3months to  3 years  after husband's 
death. 

Gopalakrishnan

Since I was youngest and earned more than my brothers, my parents were with me 
after my settling in job until they could not perform journey. 

Gopalakrishnan



On Monday, 25 December, 2023 at 12:08:43 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks Sri G K.
Q 5: Ronaldo deserves our love, respect and praise for this one quality alone.  
It is a very valuable lesson to the millions of  young fans of his. Even if a 
handful realize this, the world would be a better place to live in.
Although we come from a land which taught us
" Matha, Pitha, Guru, and (then) Deivam" meaning Mothers tower above all, still 
we need inspiring stories like this, to help us remember our own traditions, 
culture and the way our elders were treated - with love, affection and respect.
Good  lessons are welcome irrespective of where they come from -  East or West 
or anywhere else.
Rig Vedham tells us " Let Knowledge come to us from  ALL SIDES". All sides 
include West, I suppose.
Thirukkural says " Epporul yar yar vai ketpinum ApporulMaipurul kanbathu Arivu" 
MeaningWhat matters is WHAT is said and not WHO said it (wherefrom is implied).
Apart from the purpose to annihilate the Rakshaas, Rama in Ramayana teaches us:
Mathru, Pithur and Guru Bhakthi and howeven if you have to differ from your 
parents and Gurus - how to do it with respect and reverence, without giving 
offence, so much so even they agree with you eventually.
Our generation was brought up listening to " Pravachanams" on Ramayana and 
theMahabharatha, Bhagavatham,  Nala Sarithram and the like; and there were no 
big auditoriums, concert halls etc. and no U tube either.
Most of these speeches, lectures were given within the Temple premises. But 
their reach was far and wide.
One of the reasons we have degenerated is because these practices are dying a 
slow death and also because we have done away with moral subjects likeAvvai 
Patti's Aathichudi and the like.
It is good that someone from the West reminds us of our own, forgotten values. 
Thanks Ronaldo.
N Sekar 


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  On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 8:48 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via 
iyer123 wrote:   
CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25

All the below   QA are from Quora DIGEST to me  on   25-12-2023. 

Selected quora answers generallyinteresting are included .Still they   need not 
be 100%correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R.Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS 7024  on 25-12-2023.

Q1  When didyou realize small things matter?

A1  UtkarshVajpai, Writerpreneur Updated 5y

I can explain itby a short but real story.

Once there was a boy who had a shop of book bindingin front of a reputed 
educational institution. All the students and professorsused to give their 
notes to him for binding.

The boy was very much fond of gaining knowledge so heused to study every set of 
notes that he got to bind. For many years hecontinued to do the same.

Then on thebasis of his study, one day he tried to do an experiment.

He brought amagnet and thought of generating current through it. He tried for 
several timesbut nothing happened. He read again and tried again, once twice, 
thrice,endless times but nothing happened.

At last, he became furious and threw the magnet and tohis surprise he saw a 
small deflection in the current measuring device. Atheory was born that day.

Later, he thought to display his work in front of theprofessors of that reputed 
institution.

When he showed his work, out of jealousy one of theprofessor stood up and asked,

 “It isadmirable that the movement of magnet shows a small current but  What 
good will this small current do, it’s ofno use!”

All the other professors giggled on his remark.

After a bit of asilence, the boy said,    “Well Sir, inthat case What good is a 
new born baby? Do you kill a new born baby solelybased upon the fact that the 
baby is very small?”

There was stunsilence and later on the theory got approved. The boy turned out 
to be thebiggest scientists of all time.

The boy was Michael Faraday.The theory was ElectromagneticInduction.

The institutionwas The Royal Society.

Q2  Howfragile are humans physically?

A2  SilkRoad, AI Expert13h

- We can'tsurvive 

Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25

2023-12-24 Thread Narayanaswamy Sekar
-- Forwarded message -
From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 
Date: Mon, Dec 25, 2023, 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25
To: , Kerala Iyer ,
Rangarajan T.N.C. , Chittanandam V. R. <
chittananda...@gmail.com>, Mathangi K. Kumar 


Thanks Sri G K.

Q 5: Ronaldo deserves our love, respect and praise for this one quality
alone.  It is a very valuable lesson to the millions of  young fans of his.
Even if a handful realize this, the world would be a better place to live
in.

Although we come from a land which taught us

" Matha, Pitha, Guru, and (then) Deivam" meaning Mothers tower above all,
still we need inspiring stories like this, to help us remember our own
traditions, culture and the way our elders were treated - with love,
affection and respect.

Good  lessons are welcome irrespective of where they come from -  East or
West or anywhere else.

Rig Vedham tells us " Let Knowledge come to us from  ALL SIDES". All sides
include West, I suppose.

Thirukkural says
" Epporul yar yar vai ketpinum Apporul
Maipurul kanbathu Arivu"
Meaning
What matters is WHAT is said and not WHO said it (wherefrom is implied).

Apart from the purpose to annihilate the Rakshaas, Rama in Ramayana teaches
us:

Mathru, Pithur and Guru Bhakthi and how
even if you have to differ from your parents and Gurus - how to do it with
respect and reverence, without giving offence, so much so even they agree
with you eventually.

Our generation was brought up listening to " Pravachanams" on Ramayana and
the
Mahabharatha, Bhagavatham,  Nala Sarithram and the like; and there were no
big auditoriums, concert halls etc. and no U tube either.

Most of these speeches, lectures were given within the Temple premises. But
their reach was far and wide.

One of the reasons we have degenerated is because these practices are dying
a slow death and also because we have done away with moral subjects like
Avvai Patti's Aathichudi and the like.

It is good that someone from the West reminds us of our own, forgotten
values. Thanks Ronaldo.

N Sekar



Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 8:48 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123
 wrote:

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25

All the below   QA are from Quora DIGEST to me  on   25-12-2023.

Selected quora answers generally interesting are included .Still they   need
not be 100% correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS 7024  on
25-12-2023.

Q1  When did you realize small things matter?

A1  Utkarsh Vajpai, Writerpreneur Updated 5y

I can explain it by a short but real story.

Once there was a boy who had a shop of book binding in front of a reputed
educational institution. All the students and professors used to give their
notes to him for binding.

The boy was very much fond of gaining knowledge so he used to study every
set of notes that he got to bind. For many years he continued to do the
same.

Then on the basis of his study, one day he tried to do an experiment.

He brought a magnet and thought of generating current through it. He tried
for several times but nothing happened. He read again and tried again, once
twice, thrice, endless times but nothing happened.

At last, he became furious and threw the magnet and to his surprise he saw
a small deflection in the current measuring device. A theory was born that
day.

Later, he thought to display his work in front of the professors of that
reputed institution.

When he showed his work, out of jealousy one of the professor stood up and
asked,

 “It is admirable that the movement of magnet shows a small current but  What
good will this small current do, it’s of no use!”

All the other professors giggled on his remark.

After a bit of a silence, the boy said,“Well Sir, in that case What
good is a new born baby? Do you kill a new born baby solely based upon the
fact that the baby is very small?”

There was stun silence and later on the theory got approved. The boy turned
out to be the biggest scientists of all time.

The boy was Michael Faraday.The theory was Electromagnetic Induction.

The institution was The Royal Society.

Q2  How fragile are humans physically?

A2  Silk Road, AI Expert13h

- We can't survive without oxygen for more than a few minutes. If our brain
doesn't get enough O2, it gets permanently damaged and we die.

- We can't regrow our limbs or organs like some lizards or starfish. If we
lose an arm or a leg, we have to use prosthetics or wheelchairs.

If we lose a kidney or a liver, we have to wait for a transplant or
dialysis.

If we lose our eyesight or hearing, we have to use glasses or hearing aids.

We can't handle extreme temperatures or pressures like some tardigrades or
deep-sea creatures.

If we go too hot or too cold, we get burned or frozen. If we go too high or

Fwd: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Who? This bloke Narayanasamy? Nonsense. Dont crack jokes Narayana KR

-- Forwarded message -
From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 10:29
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: iyer , Laxminarayan Sarma <
laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 


Dear folks

*The super-idiot illegitimate NAYUNDA MAVEN SARAMA BITCH, KR ex-IRS,  with
a professed professional sex-worker mother is unable to take legitimate
criticism from a talented constructive wordsmith, and resorts dumbly,
blindly, ineffectually, grossly-stupidly, and nakedly to a series of icons
is envious of everyone else who has an Honours degree plus at least two
post-graduate qualifications from different overseas universities.*

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 10:51 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Senile idiot Narayanasamy has an excellent language and high academic
> background!!! KR
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 07:10
> Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
> To: iyer , Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> *The illegitimate NAYUNDA MAVEN SARAMA BITCH with a professed professional
> sex-worker mother is unable to take legitimate criticism from a talented
> constructive wordsmith, and resorts dumbly, blindly, ineffectually,
> grossly-stupidly, and nakedly to a series of icons.  He thus fully
> justifies being labelled a leech-louse-bedbug-round-worm and flatworm
> parasitising greedily on human blood.*
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 8:24 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Poda sarama in my lab 劣年練秊麗呂荒烈聯者烈荒
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 16:37, Laxminarayan Sarma <
>> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> * RogerRUM,  son of a bitch IaRSe,  , fathered by indeterminate number
>>> of stinking skunks, ONE LAST TIME, please stop  dragging my name into the
>>> stream of shit you write. I have never ever named you in any of my
>>> responses to the feacae flowing out of your filthy mouth *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *STOP  BASTARD  STOP. I will smoke you out and shove a 10 ft long
>>> hot iron rod into your stinking arse.*
>>>
>>> On Sun, 24 Dec, 2023, 1:43 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
>>> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Sir,

 You forgot to add- Bogus ITS, Matappayal etc.

 Gopalakrishnan

 On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 01:25:03 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
 iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:


 Dear  folks

 Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K
 Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken
 English:-

 "*A**nyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever
 started anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."*

 Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.

 He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool",
 "ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1",
  etc.

 He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to
 obtain confirmation.

 S Narayanaswamy Iyer

 On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
 keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go
 through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything
 criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex,
 ,IRS, English Grammar, criticism, funny callings,encouraging
 Narayanasamy and Laxmi to write abusive words by writing some thing to them
 to provoke, and many more words unexpressible. I write by content as it is
 incorrect , etc but when G writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of
 words, I start to give back; A few of my friends may suggest to refrain as
 they do; but they do not write anything reviewable; one's personal life and
 niew of their life is their asset; I don't enter into and not others; when
 content is reviewed, one has to place his view or data, with effective
 evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had written that Rama Sita as bad, so
 one shall not say here is evidence and write bad as we are all older and we
 have to show the path of light and not , never darkness; this is not the
 age for older to quote Quora and escape responsibility, because many are
 young writers who discuss and may change later. Quora has excellent
 minority write up but they escape G's attention; even in that, there are
 unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and we shall write what
 is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The whole world has
 determined with evidence that the 

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-25

All the below   QA are from Quora DIGEST to me  on   25-12-2023. 

Selected quora answers generallyinteresting are included .Still they   need not 
be 100%correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R.Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS 7024  on 25-12-2023.

Q1  When didyou realize small things matter?

A1  UtkarshVajpai, Writerpreneur Updated 5y

I can explain itby a short but real story.

Once there was a boy who had a shop of book bindingin front of a reputed 
educational institution. All the students and professorsused to give their 
notes to him for binding.

The boy was very much fond of gaining knowledge so heused to study every set of 
notes that he got to bind. For many years hecontinued to do the same.

Then on thebasis of his study, one day he tried to do an experiment.

He brought amagnet and thought of generating current through it. He tried for 
several timesbut nothing happened. He read again and tried again, once twice, 
thrice,endless times but nothing happened.

At last, he became furious and threw the magnet and tohis surprise he saw a 
small deflection in the current measuring device. Atheory was born that day.

Later, he thought to display his work in front of theprofessors of that reputed 
institution.

When he showed his work, out of jealousy one of theprofessor stood up and asked,

 “It isadmirable that the movement of magnet shows a small current but  What 
good will this small current do, it’s ofno use!”

All the other professors giggled on his remark.

After a bit of asilence, the boy said,    “Well Sir, inthat case What good is a 
new born baby? Do you kill a new born baby solelybased upon the fact that the 
baby is very small?”

There was stunsilence and later on the theory got approved. The boy turned out 
to be thebiggest scientists of all time.

The boy was Michael Faraday.The theory was ElectromagneticInduction.

The institutionwas The Royal Society.

Q2  Howfragile are humans physically?

A2  SilkRoad, AI Expert13h

- We can'tsurvive without oxygen for more than a few minutes. If our brain 
doesn't get enough O2, itgets permanently damaged and we die.

- We can'tregrow our limbs or organs like some lizards or starfish. If we lose 
an arm or a leg, we haveto use prosthetics or wheelchairs.

If we lose akidney or a liver, we have to wait for a transplant or dialysis. 

If we lose oureyesight or hearing, we have to use glasses or hearing aids.

We can't handleextreme temperatures or pressures like some tardigrades or 
deep-sea creatures.

If we go toohot or too cold, we get burned or frozen. If we go too high or too 
low, we get altitudesickness or decompression sickness.

- We can't liveforever like some jellyfish or lobsters. As we get older, our 
cells start to wear outand our organs start to fail.

We get diseaseslike cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, etc. We need drugs and 
machines to keep us alive.

So yeah, humans are pretty fragile physically. Butthat doesn't mean we are 
hopeless.

We have something that most animals don't have: Big brains.

We can use ourintelligence and creativity to overcome our limitations and adapt 
to our environment.

We can inventtools and technologies that help us survive and thrive.

We can cooperateand communicate with each other to solve problems and achieve 
goals.

We can exploreand discover new things that expand our knowledge and horizons.

So don't be sadabout being fragile. Be glad about being smart.

Q3  Can yougive some information about Parsis?

A3  Parsis,who follow Zoroastrianism, are seen as a small group in India. 
There are about 60,000 Parsis inIndia, and Pakistan has around 1100.

They cameto India to escape persecution in their home country, Iran. Even 
though they faced toughtimes, they embraced Indian culture, language, and the 
country itself.

Parsis are knownfor being prosperous – some are very rich businesspeople. They 
also hold significantpositions in law, media, consultancy, and civil and 
military service, makingthem powerful and influential.

They've madeimportant contributions to Indian arts and culture.

Additionally,Parsis are known for their generosity – they're real 
philanthropists.

It's interesting to note that they've never tried tofind or create another 
homeland.

As JohannWolfgang von Goethe said,

Everything great and intelligent is in theminority."

And, by the way, today is Nowruz, the Persian NewYear! Happy Nowruz to everyone!

Q4  Why dohospitals often give patients ice chips rather than liquids when 
they arethirsty?

A4  ScottKrager, Lives in Portland, OR 20h

Now, this might sound counterintuitive. A patient is thirsty andrather than 
giving them a refreshing glass of water, a nurse comes over with acup of ice 
chips. What gives?

Well, there's amethod to the madness.

Firstly, when certain patients are considered a highrisk for aspiration, like 
after surgery or when they're very ill, giving themliquids can actually be 
dangerous. Aspiration 

Fwd: Watch "The Untold Story of Sanskrit || A film on research about Sanskrit & Computing || Project SHIVOHAM" on YouTube

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Greatness of a language in this nation ignored but adopting meaningless
quotes and Quoras of the other nations  KR.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Srinivasan Sridharan 
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 04:35
Subject: Fwd: Watch "The Untold Story of Sanskrit || A film on research
about Sanskrit & Computing || Project SHIVOHAM" on YouTube
To: Rajaram Krishnamurthy 



Subject: Watch "The Untold Story of Sanskrit || A film on research about
Sanskrit & Computing || Project SHIVOHAM" on YouTube
FRom: sridharan 


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Fwd: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Senile idiot Narayanasamy has an excellent language and high academic
background!!! KR

-- Forwarded message -
From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 07:10
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: iyer , Laxminarayan Sarma <
laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 


Dear folks

*The illegitimate NAYUNDA MAVEN SARAMA BITCH with a professed professional
sex-worker mother is unable to take legitimate criticism from a talented
constructive wordsmith, and resorts dumbly, blindly, ineffectually,
grossly-stupidly, and nakedly to a series of icons.  He thus fully
justifies being labelled a leech-louse-bedbug-round-worm and flatworm
parasitising greedily on human blood.*

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 8:24 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:

> Poda sarama in my lab 劣年練秊麗呂荒烈聯者烈荒
>
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 16:37, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> * RogerRUM,  son of a bitch IaRSe,  , fathered by indeterminate number of
>> stinking skunks, ONE LAST TIME, please stop  dragging my name into the
>> stream of shit you write. I have never ever named you in any of my
>> responses to the feacae flowing out of your filthy mouth *
>>
>>
>>
>> *STOP  BASTARD  STOP. I will smoke you out and shove a 10 ft long hot
>> iron rod into your stinking arse.*
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Dec, 2023, 1:43 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
>> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> You forgot to add- Bogus ITS, Matappayal etc.
>>>
>>> Gopalakrishnan
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 01:25:03 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>>> iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear  folks
>>>
>>> Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K
>>> Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken
>>> English:-
>>>
>>> "*A**nyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever
>>> started anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."*
>>>
>>> Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.
>>>
>>> He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool",
>>> "ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1",
>>>  etc.
>>>
>>> He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to
>>> obtain confirmation.
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go
>>> through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything
>>> criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex,
>>> ,IRS, English Grammar, criticism, funny callings,encouraging
>>> Narayanasamy and Laxmi to write abusive words by writing some thing to them
>>> to provoke, and many more words unexpressible. I write by content as it is
>>> incorrect , etc but when G writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of
>>> words, I start to give back; A few of my friends may suggest to refrain as
>>> they do; but they do not write anything reviewable; one's personal life and
>>> niew of their life is their asset; I don't enter into and not others; when
>>> content is reviewed, one has to place his view or data, with effective
>>> evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had written that Rama Sita as bad, so
>>> one shall not say here is evidence and write bad as we are all older and we
>>> have to show the path of light and not , never darkness; this is not the
>>> age for older to quote Quora and escape responsibility, because many are
>>> young writers who discuss and may change later. Quora has excellent
>>> minority write up but they escape G's attention; even in that, there are
>>> unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and we shall write what
>>> is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The whole world has
>>> determined with evidence that the oldest scripture is Rig Vedam; but what
>>> Narayanasamy at 98 speaks? Even if he writes in one line it is neti well;
>>> but calling names with mother and trying to establish by twisting the words
>>> abusing  afamily and then? I charge all of you who remained silent. I am
>>> bold. I live a simple, perfect life; I don't write in which I have doubts,
>>> what I am yet to fully understand. So let not the three play golf as good
>>> boys. Thank you It is the earth and all kinds of people , string, wicked,
>>> backboneless are all existing  K Rajaram   IRS  24 12 23
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: *'gopala krishnan' via iyer123* 
>>> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:15
>>> Subject: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
>>> To: yeddanapu...@gmail.com , Iyer <
>>> iyer...@googlegroups.com>, Kerala Iyer ,
>>> Patty Thatha 
>>>
>>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> I remain with out responding to Mr Rajaram's responses to the maximum.
>>> But at some point I have limitation of my tolerance. Hence I have 

Fwd: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-23

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Milecha Narayanasamy KR

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From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
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Dear folks

The scoundrel blind clay-brained stone-skulled mleccha unlearned,
unschooled, uneducated blood-sucking leech-louse-bedbug-flatworm and
unlettered disciple, devotee and blind unthinking follower of
Ambedkar-Nandan-Valluvan-Zakir Naik-Asaduddun Owaisi-Wendy Doniger
O'Flaherty-Arundhati Roi now pathetically admits that I am right and he is
wrong, as he always is whenever he takes to the keyboard with his arrant
easily-detected and countered lying nonsense.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 10:23 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mutta payale; so you don't have eyes also? then why are you writing neti?
> Poor kid. KR  IRS 241223
>
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> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 17:42
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-23
> To: iyer 
> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> The mleccha unlearned, unschooled, uneducated blood-sucking
> leech-louse-bedbug-flatworm and unlettered disciple, devotee and
> blind unthinking follower of Ambedkar-Nandan-Valluvan-Zakir Naik-Asaduddun
> Owaisi-Wendy Doniger O'Flaherty-Arundhati Roi squeals and screeches his
> lack of knowledge by demanding:-
>
> "*So far how many Rig veda or Yajur veda verses he had detailed?"*
>
> Having a massive three-decade collection of all emails between himself and
> myself, he should have no difficulty in tracing, identifying, and verifying
> that I have quoted in these columns scores of yajur-veda verses which I
> have spotted as filched and incorporated without acknowledgement into
> r'g-vedam.
>
> These include the opening verse of r'g-vedam "agni meede purohitham" and
> its closing verse "thachcham yoraa vrunee mahe".  They include the
> dhyaana-aavahana mahaa ganapathi verse "ganaanaam thvaa ganapathim", and
> many, many others.
>
> Moreover, I have specifically quoted nine such verses, whereupon the
> ignorant villain admitted that there might well be 90, 900 or more such
> yajur-veda verses "borrowed" without authority or explanation to fill the
> hundreds of massive Swiss-cheese holes in r'g-vedam.
>
> In his unrestrained rogue fashion, the unmitigated supreme idiot goes on
> to claim that the vedams were not of divine origin, but "*written by the
> world renowned Rishis, sanyasis and learned"*, i.e. fallible mortals like
> himself.
>
> He once even wrote that the r'g-vedam verses were written by a circle of
> 20 hags sitting around a campfire at night when their aged husbands were
> absent !!
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:58 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr Narayanasamy is not  a man of any substance even at 98 as he simply
>> writes what is not there; as empty jargons; he writes: "He is merely
>> parading his colossal ignorance that the r'g-vedam's purusha sooktham
>> uncompromisingly proclaims the emergence of the braahmana VARNA (NOT
>> "caste" as the unmitigated fool asserts) is of direct divine origin from
>> the primordial virad-purusha. Moreover, our scriptures, including the
>> ithihaasa puraanam mahaa-bhaaratham, in which the bhagavath-geetha occurs,
>> speak of the existence of only THREE gunas --  sathvik, rajas, and thamas --
>> not six. Lacking any vocabulary of his own, he simply repeats my own
>> labelling of him as a street rowdy.
>> KR   Just read and tell me whether a writing of a learned at 98?  So
>> far how many Rig veda or Yajur veda verses he had detailed? they are  not a
>> prayer and mantra; They have unmeasurable wealth , not written by Rajaram,
>> but as written by the world renowned Rishis, sanyasis and learned; I cannot
>> write as I like it or AS NARAYANASAMY BLABBERS ON HIS OWN AS IF LEARNED.
>> Let him write one verse detailing , bringing out its expanded views
>> narrated by so many; then he will start his journey on the right path. He
>> says it is "Varna" but always say "he is not a brahmin(me)"; then what is
>> he reflecting? caste or Varna? had he known what is Varna he would not
>> assert as he is not at a brahmin because, brahmin is not by birth as told
>> by Verdas; Brahmin as per purusha sukta arose from head means an evolution
>> and does not denote caste; then chandra and SUN from eyes and will it mean,
>> both are less powerful than brahmin?  So he had to write what he means, wrt
>> the authentic write up; let him first do it; I am not willing to hear
>> Narayanasamy as I don't know from where he had that knowledge; let him
>> write first with authentication , instead of NETI as if he is greater;
>> nonsense it is. What is the meaning of Varna? The very fact that he writes
>> the names of all, as proof to say 

CHRISTMAS GREETINGS

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Fwd: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-23

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Mutta payale; so you don't have eyes also? then why are you writing neti?
Poor kid. KR  IRS 241223

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From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 17:42
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-23
To: iyer 
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 


Dear folks

The mleccha unlearned, unschooled, uneducated blood-sucking
leech-louse-bedbug-flatworm and unlettered disciple, devotee and
blind unthinking follower of Ambedkar-Nandan-Valluvan-Zakir Naik-Asaduddun
Owaisi-Wendy Doniger O'Flaherty-Arundhati Roi squeals and screeches his
lack of knowledge by demanding:-

"*So far how many Rig veda or Yajur veda verses he had detailed?"*

Having a massive three-decade collection of all emails between himself and
myself, he should have no difficulty in tracing, identifying, and verifying
that I have quoted in these columns scores of yajur-veda verses which I
have spotted as filched and incorporated without acknowledgement into
r'g-vedam.

These include the opening verse of r'g-vedam "agni meede purohitham" and
its closing verse "thachcham yoraa vrunee mahe".  They include the
dhyaana-aavahana mahaa ganapathi verse "ganaanaam thvaa ganapathim", and
many, many others.

Moreover, I have specifically quoted nine such verses, whereupon the
ignorant villain admitted that there might well be 90, 900 or more such
yajur-veda verses "borrowed" without authority or explanation to fill the
hundreds of massive Swiss-cheese holes in r'g-vedam.

In his unrestrained rogue fashion, the unmitigated supreme idiot goes on to
claim that the vedams were not of divine origin, but "*written by the world
renowned Rishis, sanyasis and learned"*, i.e. fallible mortals like himself.

He once even wrote that the r'g-vedam verses were written by a circle of 20
hags sitting around a campfire at night when their aged husbands were
absent !!

S Narayanaswamy Iyer



On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:58 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:

> Mr Narayanasamy is not  a man of any substance even at 98 as he simply
> writes what is not there; as empty jargons; he writes: "He is merely
> parading his colossal ignorance that the r'g-vedam's purusha sooktham
> uncompromisingly proclaims the emergence of the braahmana VARNA (NOT
> "caste" as the unmitigated fool asserts) is of direct divine origin from
> the primordial virad-purusha. Moreover, our scriptures, including the
> ithihaasa puraanam mahaa-bhaaratham, in which the bhagavath-geetha occurs,
> speak of the existence of only THREE gunas --  sathvik, rajas, and thamas --
> not six. Lacking any vocabulary of his own, he simply repeats my own
> labelling of him as a street rowdy.
> KR   Just read and tell me whether a writing of a learned at 98?  So
> far how many Rig veda or Yajur veda verses he had detailed? they are  not a
> prayer and mantra; They have unmeasurable wealth , not written by Rajaram,
> but as written by the world renowned Rishis, sanyasis and learned; I cannot
> write as I like it or AS NARAYANASAMY BLABBERS ON HIS OWN AS IF LEARNED.
> Let him write one verse detailing , bringing out its expanded views
> narrated by so many; then he will start his journey on the right path. He
> says it is "Varna" but always say "he is not a brahmin(me)"; then what is
> he reflecting? caste or Varna? had he known what is Varna he would not
> assert as he is not at a brahmin because, brahmin is not by birth as told
> by Verdas; Brahmin as per purusha sukta arose from head means an evolution
> and does not denote caste; then chandra and SUN from eyes and will it mean,
> both are less powerful than brahmin?  So he had to write what he means, wrt
> the authentic write up; let him first do it; I am not willing to hear
> Narayanasamy as I don't know from where he had that knowledge; let him
> write first with authentication , instead of NETI as if he is greater;
> nonsense it is. What is the meaning of Varna? The very fact that he writes
> the names of all, as proof to say that only there are 3 gunas and not 6 as
> attributed by Vedas. Let him write for a week everyday authentically and
> then talk. I know the answer; but I am not challenging; he is only denying;
> so he has to start. When a rowdy is writing abuses it is easy to repeat as
> , as far as I am concerned, those words of abuse are relating to one who
> threw the arrows; and at 98 he is unable to understand that. So long as he
> is an urchin , he has to face all the hell. I am able to write the detailed
> interpretations on some verses he wrote , without any meaning and the
> impact. Can he do it? KR IRS 241223
>
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> From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:59
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-23
> To: iyer 
> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> Caught again flagante delicto without clothes in the glare of blinding
> spotlights, the unlearned, unschooled, uneducated blood-sucking
> leech-louse-bedbug-flatworm and 

Fwd: [KeralaIyers] Fw: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24A

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
CULTURAL QA 12202324A

Q1 What are the benefits of being a Brahmin in India?

G Now, alternate medicine is taken by many.

So, the main benefit being a Brahmin is their dietary habits and their
quick grasping power of the different subjects. They can fight brain war
though they are scared of physical wars. Their living style is so simple
anywhere they can survive.

My note- Certain irrelevant portions from the answer is removed and
posted.

KR   So brahmins are good only in reciting slokas a few?  Sir please do
not make fun of a person particularly. It is said also, that even non
brahmins do it and then adds as if his pride; a bundle of contradictions
being a brahmin (caste or varna? Varna must know Vedas; caste is stotras;
as so many recited that as told by the writer “that even non brahmins”. By
dietary habits? ; drinking , eating non vegetarian, using abusive texts? So
those who have those habits are? QUICK Grasping?  Joke?  Many I do not see;
so, are they not brahmins?  Alternate medicine!!

Q2 What is something that you want others to understand?

KR WHY ONLY ALWAYS OTHERS UNDERSTANDING? EVEN THE WRITER CAN
UNDERSTAND BY HIMSELF.

 “Why will you spend 3-4 lakhs rupees on my wedding?” I asked my father.

Shastras as advocated by Maha Periava in Deivathin kural, said that a
simple marriage does not cost; a particular Malayalam community completes
the marriage in a very short time; and if you go 10 minutes late, there
will not be anyone there. Rs 11 marriages are there. Out of any amount
spent, only < 20% alone goes to laborers; rest for business community rich;
and poor feeding is not in the kind of marriage. So pomp is the outlet of
any marriage.

Q3 Why do some things when they are heated solidify but other
things become a liquid?

GTake milk curdles when heated, it becomes solid cheese and liquid whey.

My note- Very beautiful and simple explanation. When one studied about
three stages of matter whether they were this much clear? Most may not. But
some exemptions remember more than this.

KRWhat is that Q? Except the last line change of state was discussed
not fully; let it be; nothing wrong about; but milk curdles in heat?
Becomes solid cheese? WITHOUT ACIDIFYING THE MILK? Solid state is induced
and milk is not by heating. (Indeed, very beautiful and simple explanation;
read before print and learn well about the subject or stop grumbling)

Q4 What are jokes about doctors?

KRThank you even in jokes, doctors are unlearnt and cost the
patient high.

Q5 What are some of the most mind-blowing facts?

KR Not many minds blown sir.

G  This is Liechtenstein. One of the smallest countries in the world with
the area of roughly 62 square miles.

KRThis is the real history where the army was dismantled because of
fund crunch and this country was played across often. Better to know the
correct history instead of Quora and Google; Google contains all good and
bad; we have to sift or else it will end as gossip.

“Liechtenstein has a rich history given its central location in Europe. Its
borders have remained unchanged for nearly 300 years. Today it stands as
the last existing remnant of the Holy Roman Empire. The Principality has
evolved from being a very poor agricultural society to one of the most
highly industrialized countries in the world.

Early History

The territory occupied by the Principality of Liechtenstein has been
continually inhabited by settled farming communities since the Later Stone
Age (4000 – 1800 BC). By 15 BC, the area was incorporated into the Roman
province of Raetia. After the decay of the Roman Empire in the 5th century,
Raetia was first incorporated into Charlemagne’s Frankish empire and then
from the 10th century on, was part of the Holy Roman Empire. Raetia was
divided through inheritances after the 12th century and imperial immediacy
was bestowed upon the sovereigns of the county of Vaduz beginning in 1396.
Although endowed with few natural resources and under constant threat of
flooding due to the Rhine river, Vaduz’s imperial immediacy was confirmed
by successive emperors and became central to its historical importance.

Vaduz and Schellenberg

The counties of Vaduz and Schellenberg (forming modern-day Liechtenstein)
repeatedly changed hands between 1416 and 1613, and finally came to rest
with the Counts of Hohenems. Under the rule of the Hohenems’, Vaduz and
Schellenberg experienced one of their saddest chapters in history. The
plague repeatedly struck the area and the witch persecutions following the
30 Years War took the lives of about 180 people. Throughout this period,
the Hohenems became deeply indebted and were forced to sell the counties of
Vaduz and Schellenberg to the House of Liechtenstein in 1699 and 1712
respectively. The Princes of the House of Liechtenstein had been acting as
advisors to the Habsburg dynasty since the 13th century. The House of
Liechtenstein held lands in Moravia, 

Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
CULTURAL QA 12202324

Q1 Which animals can take down a hippo?

KR  Nile crocodiles, lions, and spotted hyenas are known to prey on
young hippos. Beyond these, adult hippos are not usually preyed upon by
other animals due to their aggression and size. Cases where large lion
prides have successfully preyed on adult hippos have been reported, but it
is generally rare.

Q2 What are some unwritten social rules everyone should know?

GDon't keep your bag on the restaurant table. Don't shake your hand
after washing. You're splashing water on people around! Do clip your hair
when you're going to a public eating place.

KR   So what; restaurants of street vendors may be dirty and diseased;
but not 3 star and above.

G   Don't hold money or coins in between your lips. Don't turn pages of
library books or any public usage books or other's books by licking your
finger.

KR  many tickets are issued in many foreign countries only like that.

GDon't kiss a baby. Most of the mothers don't like it and chances that
you're transmitting infection is high.

KRAmerican and young preposterous daughter in laws of Indian
notions; elders know what they are doing; no real elders would harm their
babies; but many young women carry a lot of undisclosed diseases and they
are dangerous even to hold a baby.

G When you send emails to your higher-ups, (people who are not in
software companies), do call them and tell that you've mailed them.

KR   Then why send emails for persons who do not check their mails;
better to talk to them.

GAlways staple a paper like this: It helps people turn pages easily.(in
the corner)

KR   Now latest staple is made easier as reusable clips so seeing is
made so easier.



G Carry a pen wherever you go. If you borrow a pen, make sure you
return it.

KR we have digital signatures and no signature needed so the pen is
outmoded.

G If you don't know things  just Google it. Don't disturb others for
petty issues, which can actually be found on internet.

KR  If things can be googled and seen, do not write anything, as people
will know where to see.

G  But, at the same time, don't act smart when you go to a doctor and
never give them the attitude that you read this on internet and you know
it. Of course, you know, but you know only of that particular case, but
they will know a wide range.

KR   Only idiot doctors will frown; many doctors are careful that
patients know better; being a doctor in mind is better than being a fool,
as a goat to be slaughtered.

GNever log in to your banking apps when you're on public transit.

KR   never logs anything in Public at all; also from cell phones; and any
instrument without security; have you not read SBI notes?

GWhenever possible, mix the left over chutneys and sambhars together
after completing your meal at a hotel. (You know why)

KR   silly

Edit 1: Thank you Hunter Peters for your corrections.

Edit 2: About the sambhar-chutney point: (because many asked me why?)

In case, if you leave the left over curry in the bowl or plate it is served
on, there are chances they will be used to serve someone else too. Which
means, your left over is going to some other customer. And you may get some
other customer's left over. To avoid such things, it's good that you mix
your left over. Sometimes, these left overs may be mixed to the full dish
too. But, the least we can do is this. Hope you understood it now.

KR   Even otherwise people who eat even in a 7-star hotel are eating only
the leftovers; business man is only a businessman; if you think you are
smart, he is the smartest. Hotel food is always dangerous. And what will
you do when he dips his uncleaned fingers and rubs his nose and brings it
from inside, even with gloves , in front of you?

Q3   G  What do you know that most people don’t?

01.Taste is influenced by colour. Scientists have found that hot chocolate
tastes better in an orange cup.

KR colourless Uppuma is not tastier?

02.Some people have a "natural alarm clock" allowing them to awake, when
they want. This is actually caused by a natural stress hormone.

KR  Bio clock is a system by habit. No stress genome of any kind
involved.

03.Depression can cause you to dream up to 3 to 4 times, than you normally
would.

KR   With depression no one can sleep properly; dreams are totally
different; please google and find out.

04.Blind people smile despite never seeing anyone smile before, because
it's a natural human reaction.

KRNo one can smile unless triggered by emotions.

05.The human sigh acts as a physiological reset button.

KR   ONLY THAT? SIGH IS SUPPRESSION OUTLET. Even Musical yawning and sounds
from the throat with some kinds of groaning.

06.People tend to become silent when angry, in order to prevent an argument.

KR Also when one gets defeated or cornered or blown hats off growls
like street dogs.

07.We naturally and unconsciously mimic the 

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24A

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24A

All the below   QA arefrom Quora DIGEST to me  on   24-12-2023. 

Selected quora answers generallyinteresting only are included .Still they   
need not be 100%correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R.Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS  on 24-12-2023.

Q1 Whatare the benefits of being a Brahmin in India?

A1 RamaG, Lives in Bengaluru, Karnataka, India Oct 23

Once we all went out on a pilgrimage.

I noticed my puja books were in thehotel and we were out on the farms.It's time 
for me to pray my God.

Just I chose a remote corner and turned towards sun and recited mystothras, 
slokas etc in a low voice with folded hands.

When I finished I got surprisedfinding some fellow traveller.

Shesaid, ‘oh. You are a Brahmin? You recited many sthotras without a book. I 
toocan but need my book.’

I said, ‘one advantage is,

>From the childhood we grew up hearingour elders chanting, reciting loud. So, 
>automatically half the things get byhearted. Remaining we learn by reading 
>daily. Even Ineed book sometimes. Of late little forgetting in between.

For that matter if learns fromchildhood, it's easy to remember for anyone.’

Then,She said something which I wasreally surprised to hear.

She said, “that's the reason, invaderscould burn down libraries but couldn't 
remove the Vedic knowledge or otherreligious things and thinking from you 
people.

 Most of your knowledge is orally stored. Kept in your brains. That's whythese 
many years no one could destroy you completely.”

I nodded my head. Said “possible”.Thenstarted thinking…

Because, not only Brahmins, many non BrahminHindus know and follow their 
culture, traditions. They live them. Many thingsthey store in their brains…

The advantage of being Hindu Brahminis, their knowledge only safeguards them. 
However oppressed, insulted, deniedopportunities, somehow they can create 
something , some way on their own.

When all the other doors closed on them,when they couldn't afford many courses 
in private colleges, many of the Brahminschose chartered accountant course, 
taxation, ICWA, AMIE, other similar courses, which are tough and there is no 
competition orreservation. They know only on their merit they can come up and 
survive. Noother way.  

Now, alternate medicine is taken bymany.

So, the main benefit being a Brahminis their dietary habits and their quick 
grasping power of the differentsubjects. They can fight brain war though they 
are scared of physical wars.Their living style is so simple anywhere they can 
survive.

My note- Certain irrelevant portionsfrom the answer is removed and posted. 

Q2 Whatis something that you want others to understand?

A2 VijayOdedra, Lives in Bengaluru, Karnataka, India 
(2021–present)Updated 4y

 “Why will you spend 3-4 lakhs rupees on my wedding?” I asked my father.

We were having lunch and discussingabout a grand wedding that was about to 
happen in a nearby village. Nearly ₹1.5 Crores were to be spent in three days.

My father brought up the point and said,“Instead of spending so much on 
wedding, they should either donate or help fewpoor girls to get married.”

 “You can't help few girls, but you can helpone girl. Why will you spend on my 
wedding?” I questioned.

He went silent.What I want others tounderstand?

Don't expect donations and charity justfrom rich people only.

A ₹5 coin that is feeling uselessin your home since few months can also bring a 
smile on the face of a poor kidand fill his stomach.

Don't hate rich people when they spend lavishly.

You earn in thousands and spend inhundreds. They earn inbillions and spend in 
millions. Maybe you help no one by working, they employthousands of others.

Theyhave worked hard for that money. Maybe their grandparents did.Neither you 
worked as hard nor your grandparents did. Their money. Their choice. Stop being 
jealous andcritical.

My note-For the point, spending crores in a marriage, they also help a number 
of peopleemploying them for differents. Further after feast most send all the 
remainingitems to poor homes which cost lakhs and really good. Costly food for 
the poorhome childrens

Q3 Whydo some things when they are heated solidify but other things 
become a liquid?

A3 SilkRoad, AI Expert 8h

You see, most substances can exist inthree states of matter: solid, liquid and 
gas.

Solids have fixed shapes and volumes,liquids can flow and take the shape of 
their containers, and gases can expandand fill any space.

Thestate of matter depends on how much energy the particles have and how they 
arearranged.

When you heat a solid, you give it more energy. This makes the particles 
vibrate faster and move apartfrom each other.

If the solid reaches its melting point, the particles have enough energy to 
break free from their fixed positionsand form a liquid. This iscalled melting.

But not all solids melt when heated.

Some solids react with oxygen in theair and burn instead. This is called 

Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Poda sarama in my lab 劣年練秊麗呂荒烈聯者烈荒

On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 16:37, Laxminarayan Sarma <
laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> * RogerRUM,  son of a bitch IaRSe,  , fathered by indeterminate number of
> stinking skunks, ONE LAST TIME, please stop  dragging my name into the
> stream of shit you write. I have never ever named you in any of my
> responses to the feacae flowing out of your filthy mouth *
>
>
>
> *STOP  BASTARD  STOP. I will smoke you out and shove a 10 ft long hot
> iron rod into your stinking arse.*
>
> On Sun, 24 Dec, 2023, 1:43 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>>
>> You forgot to add- Bogus ITS, Matappayal etc.
>>
>> Gopalakrishnan
>>
>> On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 01:25:03 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>> iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear  folks
>>
>> Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K
>> Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken
>> English:-
>>
>> "*A**nyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever
>> started anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."*
>>
>> Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.
>>
>> He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool",
>> "ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1",
>>  etc.
>>
>> He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to
>> obtain confirmation.
>>
>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go
>> through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything
>> criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex,
>> ,IRS, English Grammar, criticism, funny callings,encouraging
>> Narayanasamy and Laxmi to write abusive words by writing some thing to them
>> to provoke, and many more words unexpressible. I write by content as it is
>> incorrect , etc but when G writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of
>> words, I start to give back; A few of my friends may suggest to refrain as
>> they do; but they do not write anything reviewable; one's personal life and
>> niew of their life is their asset; I don't enter into and not others; when
>> content is reviewed, one has to place his view or data, with effective
>> evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had written that Rama Sita as bad, so
>> one shall not say here is evidence and write bad as we are all older and we
>> have to show the path of light and not , never darkness; this is not the
>> age for older to quote Quora and escape responsibility, because many are
>> young writers who discuss and may change later. Quora has excellent
>> minority write up but they escape G's attention; even in that, there are
>> unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and we shall write what
>> is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The whole world has
>> determined with evidence that the oldest scripture is Rig Vedam; but what
>> Narayanasamy at 98 speaks? Even if he writes in one line it is neti well;
>> but calling names with mother and trying to establish by twisting the words
>> abusing  afamily and then? I charge all of you who remained silent. I am
>> bold. I live a simple, perfect life; I don't write in which I have doubts,
>> what I am yet to fully understand. So let not the three play golf as good
>> boys. Thank you It is the earth and all kinds of people , string, wicked,
>> backboneless are all existing  K Rajaram   IRS  24 12 23
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: *'gopala krishnan' via iyer123* 
>> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:15
>> Subject: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
>> To: yeddanapu...@gmail.com , Iyer <
>> iyer...@googlegroups.com>, Kerala Iyer ,
>> Patty Thatha 
>>
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> I remain with out responding to Mr Rajaram's responses to the maximum.
>> But at some point I have limitation of my tolerance. Hence I have intimated
>> all members.
>>
>> Gopalakrishnan
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Fwd: Fw: Study Offers New Twist in the First Humans - NYTimes

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
The Theory of Evolution

Advantages

There is strong scientific evidence - physiological, fossil and
bio-geographical - to support Darwin's ideas

Since the 19th century, when Darwin forwarded his theories advances in
scientific understanding have clarified and reinforced his ideas on natural
selection

Richard Dawkins, and eminent biologist, has shown that life can develop
itself into increasingly complex forms and totally rejects the idea of an
external designer

Evidence from geologists and palaeontologists also support the process of
evolution

Some Christians have used Darwin's theory to reinforce their idea of God as
an ever-working God rather than a God who occasionally 'interferes' in the
universe he created

Some Christians believe that God started the process of evolution. The
probability of life starting by chance, they claim is virtually impossible

Disadvantages

The theory of evolution is criticised for a lack of evidence including
missing links and inconsistencies

*It is a theory and not a fact*

The history of science shows how theories can change and in some cases be
discarded altogether

Creationists also argue that science has limitations and that it has been
very wrong in the past

Science is unable to provide a complete account of the origin of life.
There is still a lack of comprehensive agreement on how natural selection
began

The human brain, which greatly exceeds the demands required by the
evolutionary process, gives credence to the idea that human beings were
made special by God

It only tells us how life originated, it doesn't tell us why. It offers
nothing for the greater understanding about the purpose of life



Interbreeding with Neanderthals gave some of our ancestors distinctive skin
and hair, but also left behind a legacy of disease within our DNA.

Non-African people today carry Neanderthal DNA in their genetic make-up
that is associated with changes in hair and skin, but also with diseases
such as diabetes, Crohn’s and even conditions such as chronic depression
and addictive behaviour.

Modern humans began to leave Africa around 60,000 years ago, encountering
Neanderthals as they moved into Eurasia. Studies in the past few years show
that modern humans interbred with Neanderthals, albeit rarely.

Two new studies released this week revealed part of the legacy of these
interactions, *concluding that the genome, or complete genetic map, of a
modern non-African person contains about two per cent Neanderthal DNA.*

‘These findings provide yet another twist to the hotly-debated Neanderthal
interbreeding story,’ said Museum human origins expert Prof Chris Stringer.

Pros and cons

The studies compared the genome of a Neanderthal with those of hundreds of
modern humans, both from Eurasia, where our ancestors met Neanderthals, and
from sub-Saharan Africa, where there would have been no interbreeding.

The Neanderthal genome comes from the toe bone of a female individual, and
the modern human information comes from data banks of genetic codes.

Modern diseases, ancient roots

It seems unlikely, however, that Neanderthals were living with these
diseases. In their own genomes this DNA would have had a specific function.
But when transferred to a modern human genome, and to people who have
changed their lifestyles over thousands of years, the DNA may have
triggered negative effects.

One effect may be our immune systems overreacting to threats that are no
longer there, such as parasitic worms. This overreaction can cause
‘auto-immune’ diseases, which include lupus and Crohn’s disease.

Many of these diseases may also only show up in later life, something less
likely to affect our ancestors, who died younger.

*Mismatch*

There are large regions of the modern human genome that have no Neanderthal
DNA in them, suggesting other genes we might have inherited have been wiped
out by evolution.

There is also evidence that male children of Neanderthal and modern human
parents had low fertility, suggesting humans and Neanderthals were
nearly *biologically
incompatible*, something that is found today when closely related mammal
species interbreed.

Despite the legacy of Neanderthal interbreeding, Prof Stringer suspects
that mating between the groups {stem 1 and stem 2} was the exception rather
than the norm. The population numbers of both groups were low, meaning they
did not come into contact with each other very often. There were also
differences in appearance and behaviour, likely to have been significantly
greater than between people today.



An Asian Origin for Human Ancestors?

*Myanmar fossil suggests our earliest predecessors may not have come from
Africa* Researchers agree that our immediate ancestors, the upright walking
apes, arose in Africa*. But the discovery of a new primate that lived about
37 million years ago in the ancient swamplands of Myanmar bolsters the idea
that the deep primate family tree that gave rise to humans is rooted in
Asia*. If true, the discovery 

Fwd: stages of life

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Stages of life in different texts:

Ericson:

The 8 stages of life

Infancy.

Toddlerhood.

Preschool years.

Early school years.

Adolescence.

Young adulthood.

Middle adulthood.

Late adulthood.



In my book The Human Odyssey: Navigating the Twelve Stages of Life I’ve
written that each stage of life has its own unique “gift” to contribute to
the world.  We need to value each one of these gifts if we are to truly
support the deepest needs of human life.  Here are what I call the twelve
gifts of the human life cycle:



Prebirth:  Potential – The child who has not yet been born could become
anything – a Michelangelo, a Shakespeare, a Martin Luther King – and thus
holds for all of humanity the principle of what we all may yet become in
our lives.

Birth:  Hope – When a child is born, it instills in its parents and other
caregivers a sense of optimism; a sense that this new life may bring
something new and special into the world.  Hence, the newborn represents
the sense of hope that we all nourish inside of ourselves to make the world
a better place.

Infancy (Ages 0-3):   Vitality – The infant is a vibrant and seemingly
unlimited source of energy.  Babies thus represent the inner dynamo of
humanity, ever fueling the fires of the human life cycle with new channels
of psychic power.

Early Childhood (Ages 3-6):  Playfulness – When young children play, they
recreate the world anew.  They take what is and combine it with the what is
possible to fashion events that have never been seen before in the history
of the world.  As such, they embody the principle of innovation and
transformation that underlies every single creative act that has occurred
in the course of civilization.

Middle Childhood (Ages 6-8):  Imagination – In middle childhoood, the sense
of an inner subjective self develops for the first time, and this self is
alive with images taken in from the outer world, and brought up from the
depths of the unconscious.  This imagination serves as a source of creative
inspiration in later life for artists, writers, scientists, and anyone else
who finds their days and nights enriched for having nurtured a deep inner
life.

Late Childhood (Ages 9-11):  Ingenuity – Older children have acquired a
wide range of social and technical skills that enable them to come up with
marvelous strategies and inventive solutions for dealing with the
increasing pressures that society places on them.  This principle of
ingenuity lives on in that part of ourselves that ever seeks new ways to
solve practical problems and cope with everyday responsibilities.

Adolescence (Ages 12-20):  Passion –  The biological event of puberty
unleashes a powerful set of changes in the adolescent body that reflect
themselves in a teenager’s sexual, emotional, cultural, and/or spiritual
passion.  Adolescence passion thus represents a significant touchstone for
anyone who is seeking to reconnect with their deepest inner zeal for life.

Early Adulthood (Ages 20-35):  Enterprise –  It takes enterprise for young
adults to accomplish their many responsibilities, including finding a home
and mate, establishing a family or circle of friends, and/or getting a good
job.  This principle of enterprise thus serves us at any stage of life when
we need to go out into the world and make our mark.

Midlife (Ages 35-50):  Contemplation – After many years in young adulthood
of following society’s scripts for creating a life, people in midlife often
take a break from worldly responsibilities to reflect upon the deeper
meaning of their lives, the better to forge ahead with new understanding.
This element of contemplation represents an important resource that we can
all draw upon to deepen and enrich our lives at any age.

Mature Adulthood (Ages 50-80): Benevolence – Those in mature adulthood have
raised families, established themselves in their work life, and become
contributors to the betterment of society through volunteerism,
mentorships, and other forms of philanthropy.  All of humanity benefits
from their benevolence.  Moreover, we all can learn from their example to
give more of ourselves to others.

Late Adulthood (Age 80+):  Wisdom – Those with long lives have acquired a
rich repository of experiences that they can use to help guide others.
Elders thus represent the source of wisdom that exists in each of us,
helping us to avoid the mistakes of the past while reaping the benefits of
life’s lessons.

Death & Dying:  Life – Those in our lives who are dying, or who have died,
teach us about the value of living.  They remind us not to take our lives
for granted, but to live each moment of life to its fullest, and to
remember that our own small lives form of a part of a greater whole.



Hindu philosophy traditionally observes four stages of life. These stages
are known as ashramas. The idea is to provide structure and guidance for
daily life, though most Hindus today only follow the first three stages.
Sometimes you will see specific ages put forth corresponding 

Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty
 Sir,
Mr Rajaram is totally upset. Better mark his mails to spam. Any amount of  
writing to him, will bring good result.He is going on writing, writing and 
writing without any sense.
Gopalakrishnan

On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 04:37:07 pm IST, Laxminarayan Sarma 
 wrote:  
 
  RogerRUM,  son of a bitch IaRSe,  , fathered by indeterminate number of 
stinking skunks, ONE LAST TIME, please stop  dragging my name into the stream 
of shit you write. I have never ever named you in any of my responses to the 
feacae flowing out of your filthy mouth 
STOP  BASTARD  STOP. I will smoke you out and shove a 10 ft long hot iron rod 
into your stinking arse.



On Sun, 24 Dec, 2023, 1:43 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, 
 wrote:

 Sir,
You forgot to add- Bogus ITS, Matappayal etc.
Gopalakrishnan

On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 01:25:03 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Dear  folks
Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K 
Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken English:-
"Anyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started 
anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."
Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.
He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool", 
"ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1", etc.
He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to obtain 
confirmation.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy  
wrote:

Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go through 
any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything criticising 
Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex, ,IRS, English 
Grammar, criticism, funny callings,    encouraging Narayanasamy and Laxmi to 
write abusive words by writing some thing to them to provoke, and many more 
words unexpressible. I write by content as it is incorrect , etc but when G 
writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of words, I start to give back; A 
few of my friends may suggest to refrain as they do; but they do not write 
anything reviewable; one's personal life and niew of their life is their asset; 
I don't enter into and not others; when content is reviewed, one has to place 
his view or data, with effective evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had 
written that Rama Sita as bad, so one shall not say here is evidence and write 
bad as we are all older and we have to show the path of light and not , never 
darkness; this is not the age for older to quote Quora and escape 
responsibility, because many are young writers who discuss and may change 
later. Quora has excellent minority write up but they escape G's attention; 
even in that, there are unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and 
we shall write what is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The 
whole world has determined with evidence that the oldest scripture is Rig 
Vedam; but what Narayanasamy at 98 speaks? Even if he writes in one line it is 
neti well; but calling names with mother and trying to establish by twisting 
the words abusing  afamily and then? I charge all of you who remained silent. I 
am bold. I live a simple, perfect life; I don't write in which I have doubts, 
what I am yet to fully understand. So let not the three play golf as good boys. 
Thank you It is the earth and all kinds of people , string, wicked, 
backboneless are all existing  K Rajaram   IRS  24 12 23
-- Forwarded message -
From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:15
Subject: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: yeddanapu...@gmail.com , Iyer 
, Kerala Iyer , Patty 
Thatha 


Sir,
I remain with out responding to Mr Rajaram's responses to the maximum. But at 
some point I have limitation of my tolerance. Hence I have intimated all 
members. 

Gopalakrishnan


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Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty
 Thank you Mr Sekar for reading the QA and response. While many or most 
recognize they are in vanaprastha after 75's, few do not realize.  Normally I 
used to say in waiting list or R A C. 
Gopalakrishnan

On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 04:46:07 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks.
Q 4 beautifully explains what life is.
Each one is us is like that Fridge, and we should accept that reality 
gracefully - as said in the answer.
That's why we had the concept of                " Vansprastha" so that before 
anyone discards us, we left on our own.
Let me add:
As is said, the ultimate Truth of Life is        " DEATH". 
N Sekar 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 2:51 PM, 'gopala krishnan' via 
KeralaIyers wrote:   
CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

All the below   QA arefrom Quora DIGEST to me  on   24-12-2023. 

Selected quora answers generallyinteresting only are included .Still they   
need not be 100%correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R.Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS  on 24-12-2023.

Q1 Whichanimals can take down a hippo?

A1 TravelExplore Protect, Environmental Activist, Adventurers & 
YouTuber1h

Four animals come to mind as potential threats to hippos, and foremost among 
themare African elephants.African elephants are known to be the only species 
capable of swimming orwalking right next to hippos without being attacked. 

Additionally, humans, while not natural predators, can pose athreat to hippos 
through activities such as hunting, habitat destruction, andconflicts over 
resources. 

The only two predators known to takedown hippos are the largeNile crocodiles, 
which are known to attack and kill hippos. In somecases, crocodiles may target 
young or weakened hippos. 

Lions have also been observed attackinghippos, particularly calves or 
individuals that are sick or injured. However,taking down a healthy adult hippo 
is extremely challenging for lions due to thehippo's size, strength, and 
aggressive nature.

It's important to note that whilethese examples exist, hippos are generally 
considered one of the most dangerousand aggressive animals in Africa. They 
possess powerful jaws, sharp teeth, andcan move surprisingly fast on land, 
making them formidable adversaries. In most cases, hippos are at the topof the 
food chain in their habitats.

Q2 Whatare some unwritten social rules everyone should know?

A2 RanjaniRajasekaran, I love to be realistic and practical about life 
Updated 5y

Don't keep your bag on the restauranttable. Don't shake your hand after 
washing. You're splashing water on peoplearound! Do clip your hair when you're 
going to a public eating place.

Don't hold money or coins in between your lips. Don't turn pages of library 
books or any public usagebooks or other's books by licking your finger.

Don't kiss a baby. Most of the mothers don't like it and chances that you're 
transmitting infection is high.

When you send emails to your higher-ups​, (people who are not in software 
companies),do call them and tell that you've mailed them.

Always staple a paper like this: Ithelps people turn pages easily.(in the 
corner)

My note- Stapling, if there are more sheetsat three places along side make the 
papers more secured and turning pages isnot difficult 

Carry a pen wherever you go. If youborrow a pen, make sure you return it.

If you don't know things  just Google it. Don't disturb others for pettyissues, 
which can actually be found on internet.

But, at the same time, don't actsmart when you go to a doctor and never give 
them the attitude that you readthis on internet and you know it. Ofcourse, you 
know, but you know only of that particular case, but they will knowa wide 
range. 

Never log in to your banking appswhen you're on public transit.

Whenever possible, mix the left overchutneys and sambhars together after 
completing your meal at a hotel. (You knowwhy)

Edit 1: Thank you Hunter Peters foryour corrections.

Edit 2: About the sambhar-chutneypoint: (because many asked me why?)

In case, if you leave the left overcurry in the bowl or plate it is served on, 
there are chances they will be used to serve someone elsetoo. Which means, your 
left over is going to some othercustomer. And you may get some other customer's 
left over. To avoid suchthings, it's good that you mix your left over. 
Sometimes, these left overs maybe mixed to the full dish too. But, the least we 
can do is this. Hope youunderstood it now.

Q3 Whatdo you know that most people don’t?

A3 DilkiDissanayake, Writer, Psychology Lover and Content Reader 2y

01.Taste is influenced by colour. Scientists have found that hot chocolate 
tastes better in an orange cup.

02.Some people have a "natural alarm clock" allowing them to awake, when they 
want. This is actuallycaused by a naturalstress hormone.

03.Depression can cause you to dreamup to 3 to 4 times, than you normally would.

04.Blind people smile despite never 

Fwd: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

2023-12-24 Thread Narayanaswamy Sekar
Thanks.

Q 4 beautifully explains what life is.

Each one of us is like that Fridge, and we should accept that reality
gracefully - as said in the answer.

That's why we had the concept of" Vansprastha" so that
before anyone discards us, we left on our own.

Let me add:

As is said, the ultimate Truth of Life is" DEATH".

N Sekar


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 2:51 PM, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers
 wrote:

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

All the below   QA are from Quora DIGEST to me  on   24-12-2023.

Selected quora answers generally interesting only are included .Still they
need not be 100% correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS  on 24-12-2023.

Q1 Which animals can take down a hippo?

A1 Travel Explore Protect, Environmental Activist, Adventurers &
YouTuber1h

Four animals come to mind as potential threats to hippos, and foremost
among them are African elephants. African elephants are known to be the
only species capable of swimming or walking right next to hippos without
being attacked.

Additionally, humans, while not natural predators, can pose a threat to
hippos through activities such as hunting, habitat destruction, and
conflicts over resources.

The only two predators known to take down hippos are the large Nile
crocodiles, which are known to attack and kill hippos. In some cases,
crocodiles may target young or weakened hippos.

Lions have also been observed attacking hippos, particularly calves or
individuals that are sick or injured. However, taking down a healthy adult
hippo is extremely challenging for lions due to the hippo's size, strength,
and aggressive nature.

It's important to note that while these examples exist, hippos are
generally considered one of the most dangerous and aggressive animals in
Africa. They possess powerful jaws, sharp teeth, and can move surprisingly
fast on land, making them formidable adversaries. In most cases, hippos are
at the top of the food chain in their habitats.

Q2 What are some unwritten social rules everyone should know?

A2 Ranjani Rajasekaran, I love to be realistic and practical about
life Updated 5y

Don't keep your bag on the restaurant table. Don't shake your hand after
washing. You're splashing water on people around! Do clip your hair when
you're going to a public eating place.

Don't hold money or coins in between your lips. Don't turn pages of library
books or any public usage books or other's books by licking your finger.

Don't kiss a baby. Most of the mothers don't like it and chances that
you're transmitting infection is high.

When you send emails to your higher-ups​, (people who are not in software
companies), do call them and tell that you've mailed them.

Always staple a paper like this: It helps people turn pages easily.(in the
corner)

My note- Stapling, if there are more sheets at three places along side make
the papers more secured and turning pages is not difficult

Carry a pen wherever you go. If you borrow a pen, make sure you return it.

If you don't know things  just Google it. Don't disturb others for petty
issues, which can actually be found on internet.

But, at the same time, don't act smart when you go to a doctor and never
give them the attitude that you read this on internet and you know it. Of
course, you know, but you know only of that particular case, but they will
know a wide range.

Never log in to your banking apps when you're on public transit.

Whenever possible, mix the left over chutneys and sambhars together after
completing your meal at a hotel. (You know why)

Edit 1: Thank you Hunter Peters for your corrections.

Edit 2: About the sambhar-chutney point: (because many asked me why?)

In case, if you leave the left over curry in the bowl or plate it is served
on, there are chances they will be used to serve someone else too. Which
means, your left over is going to some other customer. And you may get some
other customer's left over. To avoid such things, it's good that you mix
your left over. Sometimes, these left overs may be mixed to the full dish
too. But, the least we can do is this. Hope you understood it now.

Q3 What do you know that most people don’t?

A3 Dilki Dissanayake, Writer, Psychology Lover and Content Reader 2y

01.Taste is influenced by colour. Scientists have found that hot chocolate
tastes better in an orange cup.

02.Some people have a "natural alarm clock" allowing them to awake, when
they want. This is actually caused by a natural stress hormone.

03.Depression can cause you to dream up to 3 to 4 times, than you normally
would.

04.Blind people smile despite never seeing anyone smile before, because it's
a natural human reaction.

05.The human sigh acts as a 

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty

CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24

All the below   QA arefrom Quora DIGEST to me  on   24-12-2023. 

Selected quora answers generallyinteresting only are included .Still they   
need not be 100%correct answers.

Compiled and posted by R.Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS  on 24-12-2023.

Q1 Whichanimals can take down a hippo?

A1 TravelExplore Protect, Environmental Activist, Adventurers & 
YouTuber1h

Four animals come to mind as potential threats to hippos, and foremost among 
themare African elephants.African elephants are known to be the only species 
capable of swimming orwalking right next to hippos without being attacked. 

Additionally, humans, while not natural predators, can pose athreat to hippos 
through activities such as hunting, habitat destruction, andconflicts over 
resources. 

The only two predators known to takedown hippos are the largeNile crocodiles, 
which are known to attack and kill hippos. In somecases, crocodiles may target 
young or weakened hippos. 

Lions have also been observed attackinghippos, particularly calves or 
individuals that are sick or injured. However,taking down a healthy adult hippo 
is extremely challenging for lions due to thehippo's size, strength, and 
aggressive nature.

It's important to note that whilethese examples exist, hippos are generally 
considered one of the most dangerousand aggressive animals in Africa. They 
possess powerful jaws, sharp teeth, andcan move surprisingly fast on land, 
making them formidable adversaries. In most cases, hippos are at the topof the 
food chain in their habitats.

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A2 RanjaniRajasekaran, I love to be realistic and practical about life 
Updated 5y

Don't keep your bag on the restauranttable. Don't shake your hand after 
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going to a public eating place.

Don't hold money or coins in between your lips. Don't turn pages of library 
books or any public usagebooks or other's books by licking your finger.

Don't kiss a baby. Most of the mothers don't like it and chances that you're 
transmitting infection is high.

When you send emails to your higher-ups​, (people who are not in software 
companies),do call them and tell that you've mailed them.

Always staple a paper like this: Ithelps people turn pages easily.(in the 
corner)

My note- Stapling, if there are more sheetsat three places along side make the 
papers more secured and turning pages isnot difficult 

Carry a pen wherever you go. If youborrow a pen, make sure you return it.

If you don't know things  just Google it. Don't disturb others for pettyissues, 
which can actually be found on internet.

But, at the same time, don't actsmart when you go to a doctor and never give 
them the attitude that you readthis on internet and you know it. Ofcourse, you 
know, but you know only of that particular case, but they will knowa wide 
range. 

Never log in to your banking appswhen you're on public transit.

Whenever possible, mix the left overchutneys and sambhars together after 
completing your meal at a hotel. (You knowwhy)

Edit 1: Thank you Hunter Peters foryour corrections.

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Fwd: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg

2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
Gopala you have to add what you wrote  and in response I wrote; don't act
or feign as if you are good. You deserve all those and should have known
better that once you throw one stone, your glass doors will be broken. OK
Gopala?
KR  IRS   24 12 23

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From: 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty 
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 13:43
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: iyer...@googlegroups.com , Narayanaswamy Iyer
, Kerala Iyer , Patty
Thatha 


Sir,

You forgot to add- Bogus ITS, Matappayal etc.

Gopalakrishnan

On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 01:25:03 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear  folks

Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K
Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken
English:-

"*A**nyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever
started anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."*

Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.

He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool",
"ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1",
 etc.

He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to
obtain confirmation.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:

Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go
through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything
criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex,
,IRS, English Grammar, criticism, funny callings,encouraging
Narayanasamy and Laxmi to write abusive words by writing some thing to them
to provoke, and many more words unexpressible. I write by content as it is
incorrect , etc but when G writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of
words, I start to give back; A few of my friends may suggest to refrain as
they do; but they do not write anything reviewable; one's personal life and
niew of their life is their asset; I don't enter into and not others; when
content is reviewed, one has to place his view or data, with effective
evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had written that Rama Sita as bad, so
one shall not say here is evidence and write bad as we are all older and we
have to show the path of light and not , never darkness; this is not the
age for older to quote Quora and escape responsibility, because many are
young writers who discuss and may change later. Quora has excellent
minority write up but they escape G's attention; even in that, there are
unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and we shall write what
is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The whole world has
determined with evidence that the oldest scripture is Rig Vedam; but what
Narayanasamy at 98 speaks? Even if he writes in one line it is neti well;
but calling names with mother and trying to establish by twisting the words
abusing  afamily and then? I charge all of you who remained silent. I am
bold. I live a simple, perfect life; I don't write in which I have doubts,
what I am yet to fully understand. So let not the three play golf as good
boys. Thank you It is the earth and all kinds of people , string, wicked,
backboneless are all existing  K Rajaram   IRS  24 12 23

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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:15
Subject: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: yeddanapu...@gmail.com , Iyer <
iyer...@googlegroups.com>, Kerala Iyer ,
Patty Thatha 


Sir,

I remain with out responding to Mr Rajaram's responses to the maximum. But
at some point I have limitation of my tolerance. Hence I have intimated all
members.

Gopalakrishnan

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2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1adCiheFyVT11G4bjSEzxgIziqfEI0ux4/view?usp=drive_link
 annamalai BJP
2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cy7uBJpF-sC9-pNJLI7Asq_U5iaUZSuf/view?usp=drive_link
Basket ball at Dallas opening ceremony at Dallas yesterday
3
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l4OF4XNO71QGXJbAI_Kl-wZS_JzjhYRp/view?usp=drive_link
 How to hit a goal
4
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_QLPQEc7KCF5YxcnAE1mUpOVUUrtyq86/view?usp=drive_link
Have you seen Margazhi bhajan this way?
5   https://youtube.com/shorts/LnuG89pLRUI?si=osZAcM9INX3jUfTA Why
Trissur
6   https://youtu.be/dDD654_F-vw?feature=shared  Guruvayur
7https://youtu.be/lF2p4WU9MfQJanani carnatic
8   https://youtu.be/zBAZzPZE5Pk  simma madyendramam
9   https://youtu.be/30z9dK91GbY Old western instrumental now you
may not hear
10   https://youtu.be/ou7JHftl_vQRahul vallal carnatic young
versatile
K RajaramIRS   24 12 23

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Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg

2023-12-24 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty
 Sir,
You forgot to add- Bogus ITS, Matappayal etc.
Gopalakrishnan

On Sunday, 24 December, 2023 at 01:25:03 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
 wrote:  
 
 Dear  folks
Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K 
Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken English:-
"Anyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started 
anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."
Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.
He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool", 
"ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1", etc.
He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to obtain 
confirmation.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy  
wrote:

Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go through 
any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything criticising 
Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex, ,IRS, English 
Grammar, criticism, funny callings,    encouraging Narayanasamy and Laxmi to 
write abusive words by writing some thing to them to provoke, and many more 
words unexpressible. I write by content as it is incorrect , etc but when G 
writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of words, I start to give back; A 
few of my friends may suggest to refrain as they do; but they do not write 
anything reviewable; one's personal life and niew of their life is their asset; 
I don't enter into and not others; when content is reviewed, one has to place 
his view or data, with effective evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had 
written that Rama Sita as bad, so one shall not say here is evidence and write 
bad as we are all older and we have to show the path of light and not , never 
darkness; this is not the age for older to quote Quora and escape 
responsibility, because many are young writers who discuss and may change 
later. Quora has excellent minority write up but they escape G's attention; 
even in that, there are unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and 
we shall write what is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The 
whole world has determined with evidence that the oldest scripture is Rig 
Vedam; but what Narayanasamy at 98 speaks? Even if he writes in one line it is 
neti well; but calling names with mother and trying to establish by twisting 
the words abusing  afamily and then? I charge all of you who remained silent. I 
am bold. I live a simple, perfect life; I don't write in which I have doubts, 
what I am yet to fully understand. So let not the three play golf as good boys. 
Thank you It is the earth and all kinds of people , string, wicked, 
backboneless are all existing  K Rajaram   IRS  24 12 23
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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:15
Subject: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: yeddanapu...@gmail.com , Iyer 
, Kerala Iyer , Patty 
Thatha 


Sir,
I remain with out responding to Mr Rajaram's responses to the maximum. But at 
some point I have limitation of my tolerance. Hence I have intimated all 
members. 

Gopalakrishnan


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2023-12-24 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy
I wrote in some other email what kind of fool is Narayanasamy; and here he
proved it; Yes I also called you like that; my write up is you
threw started and got back; so you have checked all and see whether you
started it or myself? I wrote in response even higher remarks because you
are the starter. I am not feeling it as a shame because the seniors
misbehave and so shame must be felt only by them. If the theme is
understandable even at 98 better lead a vegetable life in your own dreamy
world and die. Thank you Narayana. My respect for you is only that much.
YOU MAY HAVE TO EARN THE RESPECT FROM OTHERS AND YOU THREE DO NOT SEEM TO
BE KR IRS 241223

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From: Narayanaswamy Iyer 
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 13:25
Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
To: iyer , gopala krishnan 
Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer 


Dear  folks

Wearing a torn and tattered halo of an angel from hell, KR ex-IRS alias K
Rajaram ex-IRS 24 12 23 writes in his usual drain-gutter-sewer broken
English:-

"*A**nyone can go through any email and content of mine; if I had ever
started anything criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know."*

Yes, I have gone through the smug self-praising villain's emails.

He has on several occasions called Sri Gopalakrishnan "jihadi", "fool",
"ignorant", "thug", "mosquito", "standard 1",
 etc.

He has only to check back his own e-mails over the past few years to
obtain confirmation.

S Narayanaswamy Iyer

On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 3:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:

> Mr Gopala feigns as if he is not a villain or abused me; anyone can go
> through any email and content of mine; if I had ever started anything
> criticising Gopala, initially pl let me know; Gopala will speak as ex,
> ,IRS, English Grammar, criticism, funny callings,encouraging
> Narayanasamy and Laxmi to write abusive words by writing some thing to them
> to provoke, and many more words unexpressible. I write by content as it is
> incorrect , etc but when G writes , indirectly, there are some who kinds of
> words, I start to give back; A few of my friends may suggest to refrain as
> they do; but they do not write anything reviewable; one's personal life and
> niew of their life is their asset; I don't enter into and not others; when
> content is reviewed, one has to place his view or data, with effective
> evidence; what I mean is Anna durai had written that Rama Sita as bad, so
> one shall not say here is evidence and write bad as we are all older and we
> have to show the path of light and not , never darkness; this is not the
> age for older to quote Quora and escape responsibility, because many are
> young writers who discuss and may change later. Quora has excellent
> minority write up but they escape G's attention; even in that, there are
> unverified nonsense.  So we have a responsibility, and we shall write what
> is based on righteousness. NETI NETI is not a write up.The whole world has
> determined with evidence that the oldest scripture is Rig Vedam; but what
> Narayanasamy at 98 speaks? Even if he writes in one line it is neti well;
> but calling names with mother and trying to establish by twisting the words
> abusing  afamily and then? I charge all of you who remained silent. I am
> bold. I live a simple, perfect life; I don't write in which I have doubts,
> what I am yet to fully understand. So let not the three play golf as good
> boys. Thank you It is the earth and all kinds of people , string, wicked,
> backboneless are all existing  K Rajaram   IRS  24 12 23
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 12:15
> Subject: [iyer123] Responses from Mr Rajaram- reg
> To: yeddanapu...@gmail.com , Iyer <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com>, Kerala Iyer ,
> Patty Thatha 
>
>
> Sir,
>
> I remain with out responding to Mr Rajaram's responses to the maximum. But
> at some point I have limitation of my tolerance. Hence I have intimated all
> members.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
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