Re: [Therion] : map-connection does not display if map is both offset and not offset

@bruce that was a nice remark. i think that if you put scrap1 in map1 and scrap2 in map2, and then combine in a final map containing map1 map2 […] above/below map2 and select the final map, then you get scrap1 and scrap2 in place, and also scrap2 offseted and the map-connection line

Re: [Therion] Revisiting Breaking extended elevations on specific stations

i realized i was too naive: the "principle" of the spanning tree is ok, but it is not enough. suppose to have five legs at a station 6-7 7-8 20-7 7-21 7-45 and some of them belongs to loop(s). Suppose that the user wants to have 6-7 7-8 together, and 20-7 7-21 together but the two pairs

Re: [Therion] Revisiting Breaking extended elevations on specific stations

last weekend i completed the survey of a cave with some parallel close pits connected through several "windows". the last survey joined the previous surveys at seven stations. needless to say, i was not able to tell therion how to break the centerline for the extended elevation. Eventually i

[Therion] topodroid to therion

*The meaning I meant to convey was; I don’t think I have seen a description of exactly the settings and workflow TopoDROID users should use if they want to export their data for Therion to process, in one place, and step by step. No doubt the detail is in the TopoDROID user manual, but it is

[Therion] topodroid to therion

i apologize the cut-n-paste, but i get post in digest and i try to keep reply short. - - - - - - That is a good description. I can see a wiki page developing from it. I don’t think I have seen similar information before? that info is in the user manual, more or less It is a while since I

[Therion] topodroid to therion

Is there a workflow that is easy to use with ‘TopoDROID to Therion’ process, that also allows more than one scrap per survey trip file? With limited experimentation (and making assumption that TopoDROID ‘sketches’ might be approximately equivalent to Therion ‘scraps’), I have not yet found a way

[Therion] topodroid lines

sorry for the late reply (i read digest) there is a setting in topodroid to set the spacing of line points. units of screen pixels, i think (not sure, i should check) there are also a couple of setting to control how cubics are generated apks: besides google play store, some are on the site

[Therion] boxed label

hi bruce, this is a boxed u:label basically it gets the string as picture, its bounding box corners, and define the x and y to draw the box, then draw the string picture point 10 20 u:label -attr val 20 def p_u_label ( expr p,r,s,t ) = picture pic; pic := thelabel( ATTR_val, (0,0)) scaled

Re: [Therion] coloring

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[Therion] coloring

what about a scrap option "-color" that overrides the layout foreground color ? survey too could have a color option. marco ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 151, Issue 3

in reply to markus question: quick answer is 'no": (1) semantics are different: therion is richer, topodroid has features of its own. (2) therion is OFFline (post)processing, topodroid is ONline processing (3) focus: large for therion, small for topodroid (4) maybe something else marco On Thu,

[Therion] extend

i put together comments to all the posts about "extend" (1) yes, -1 = left, 1 = right and vert is in the middle (0) (2) evaristo, with his proposal of idealized profile not only suggested a way to control shortening, but that also allows stretching. that's good (3) bruce described a procedure

[Therion] extend

i think that extend should take values in the interval [-1,1], ie also fractional values, plus some special value such as "ignore" to open loops, and "undefined" to let the program choose, because it's a nuisance to enter a decimal number for every shot (legs + splays). therion uses the left/right

Re: [Therion] Conflict between "extend ignore" command and inverse legs

nd ignore" command before the splays shots. I will comment to Marco Corvi on the problem. @ Evaristo & Bruce: what about a command "extend auto", which means let therion decide how to extend the splay shot ? for the moment therion parser could be

[Therion] Fwd: Extended elevation discussion

Bruce Mutton <br...@tomo.co.nz> Date: Wed, May 2, 2018, 21:48 Subject: Extended elevation discussion To: Marco Corvi <marco.co...@gmail.com> Hi Marco Glad you are spending time caving. And is good to be disconnected sometimes! Yes, extend is mysterious. Your commentary is insigh

[Therion] Disto Data Recovery

topodroid can dump to a text file the data that are still in the memory of the distox. if you have a distox1 (A3 leica) it can also reset the hot bit and make the distox resend the data. both functions are "low level" (they access the memory), and not for common use. it can help if you do not

Re: [Therion] Linux and DistoX (Wookey)

So, thanks to me giving a competent person (who also doesn't own any Windows or Android devices) a couple of distoX's that needed ... At the moment this only works with python3 and distoX1, But Stuart plans to use the topodroid codebase to work out the differences for the X2 protocol (unless

[Therion] Recovering data marked as sent from DistoX2

andrew, topodroid has a function to read the distox2 memory (and optionally save it to a text file). it is slow, and it has no way to know where the most recent data are. may want to read it in small chunks. cheers marco On Mar 23, 2016 12:25, "Andrew Atkinson" wrote: > Hello > > Not strictly

[Therion] Shortcut to delete a line point

ccepting the new folder name when I tap on it. this is a bug. thanks for pointing it out. marco > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Владимир Георгиев > wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Marco Corvi wrote: >>> >>> > How h

[Therion] Shortcut to delete a line point

On Jan 27, 2016 15:14, "Владимир Георгиев" wrote: > > Hello > > When editing scraps I quite often delete line points. The only way is through the right-click menu and a submenu and I miss having a shortcut for that. It will make it much easier. > > How hard would it be to add one?

[Therion] KML Issues

hi nick, there is the option"-disable splay-shots": seems to work for kml exports. marco On 7/27/15, Nick Bairstow wrote: > My "export model -o ##NAME##.kml" exports work fine but "export map -o > ##NAME##.kml" sometimes works perfectly but other times I get small > pieces/part of a cave

[Therion] wall coloring

this is for kevin's request. not a solution, just a proof of concept ... (without important details) to color the wall you can re-define l_wall with a code metapost in the layout, passing the R,G,B values after the path. next set the layout color map-fg altitude to have the altitude stored in the

[Therion] splays

i would like that splays in pdf having only the centerline ( no scraps ), are drawn with different color than legs. any suggestion ? ( besides fiddling with the sources ) thanks, marco

[Therion] the volume of a cave

hi, it just happened that i was asked to estimate the volume of a "cave" (actually a small mine). therion dxf export is a triangulated surface of the cave wall. if the surface were oriented it would be extremely easy to compute the volume. (the surface of a real cave is always orientable: no

[Therion] Metapost point blocks problems

maybe you should use thdraw only for the final picture, and draw/fill for the components. marco From: Jackson To: therion at speleo.sk Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:53 PM Subject: [Therion] Metapost point blocks problems Hi all, i have made a new

[Therion] Patch to disable threshold system

what about replacing the NS tests with <= instead of < and using vthreshold 90? it's what i used to do before the distox epoch. marco p.s. another option is to change the check on the vthreshold input value. -- On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 4:41 AM PST cawa sorix wrote:

[Therion] preview below with many colors

er setting.   colour preview-above [80 0 40]  #should be magenta, but preview above is still dark grey   Is it possible to fix?   Bruce   From:therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Marco Corvi Sent: Wednesday, 9 Janu

[Therion] point:passage-height

hi bruce, passage-height goes with modes 2, 3, 4, and 5 dave might redefine the mpost macros scaling the label (lab) in a custom layout. marco From: Bruce To: 'List for Therion users' Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Therion]

[Therion] preview below with many colors

i'm making a therion map with many colors for the maps previewed below. attached is a snapshot of the map (still in draft) in acroread. with xpdf does not look so good (... maybe my mistake). it would also be nice to have transparency in the below colors, and that the order of the below

[Therion] xtherion

e it works with no problems to open files without extension. (I'm using Therion 5.3.11 and Windows version) Torsten Marco Corvi hat am 7. Januar 2013 um 10:41 geschrieben: > this is just a minor nuisance, > > i noticed that when i want to open o file without extension > with xtherion text e

[Therion] xtherion

this is just a minor nuisance, i noticed that when i want to open o file without extension with xtherion text editor, it tries to add the extension ".th" and says that it cannot find the file. marco -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

[Therion] color preview-below

with layout color preview-below i can set the color of the maps that are "below" in the selected map, eg.,    map ...       ...       map1 [10 10 m] below   endmap maybe it would be useful to be able to shade the maps below by the map or by the altitude as for the other maps. it

[Therion] colour by map

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Well, after trying to implement this feature I realized, that it already > works, but it is missing in therion book. > > Try: > > color-legend on|off > > in your layout. > > I am sorry for that. > > S. > &g

[Therion] colour by map

hi bruce, not sure this answer your question. and it's a hack, thus not something that should be used.the real solution would be an implemented feature, as you asked. anyways, i switch off  the color legend with code tex-map   \colorlegendfalse endcode marco

[Therion] Marked stations

hi bruce and john, i played a bit with symbol-show/hideand triedi think ti think that i think that hat symbol-show group centerline symbol-show point cave-station symbol-hide point station:fixed symbol-hide group centerline symbol-show point cave-station symbol-show point station:fixed and

[Therion] *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: Cavesystem - Addition of cavelenght

hi markus, i usually do martin's way: i often put extended section and plan of small caves on the same pdf, and have a layout for the extended section that does not show the map-header. you can do the same to put many cave plan on the same pdf, each with its own map header, ... and you can

[Therion] clashing areas

i tried with two scraps, one with the water the other with the blocks (or a block area). the blocks are above or below the water depending on the order of the scraps in the map. not sure this is what you wanted. marco From: Graham Mullan To: List for

[Therion] Training Course Guide for Therion from the UK Cave Surveying Group

footleg, i read your tutorial three times, and i agree with bruce. i'm probably not completely new to therion, so i'm sort of biased judging it, but,to me it is a very good intro to therion. there is an emphasis of getting the cave data from distox. this means to skip talking about the

[Therion] help for extended start

i tried extend ignore BDVv57 BDVv58 and drop point station -name BDVv58 at ... from the scrap marco From: Danilo Magnani To: List for Therion users Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:41 PM Subject: [Therion] help for extended start Hi first of all sorry for

[Therion] How to extract the length of each centerline ?

hi xavier, just export as database, say with output "cave.sql", make a db with it: "sqlite3 cave.db< cave.sql". open the db and select from the table centreline: "sqlite3 cave.db" and at the prompt "select title, length from centreline;" or "select title, length from centreline where title

[Therion] wall + loch

played with footleg example, stripped down even further. looks like the issue has something to do with pit outline in touching the wall (no outline spec). might be a bug with loch or lox export. must leave this to stacho marco -- next part -- An HTML attachment was

[Therion] loch, again

too quick to send the mail and i forgot the second "request". if you look closely at th eimage you might see some blue dots. those are the locatios of the springs (actually not all of them, there are other more important springs near the lake, that i have not put in yet). well, the request is

[Therion] loch light

i think it would be useful to let he user turn on the light in loch. the attached example is a loch model with dem and a geological map. the screenshot has been reduced 2x2, and the map is a very approximate drawing (a quick test to see if i could get something interesting). nevertheless it

[Therion] symbol-show/hide group text

i need it when i prepare maps for publications: i'm using scribus and include the pdf map as image but i prefer to add the lettering with the fonts of the publication (and not scale them with the image). same for the map legend: need layout command to insertonly the scalebar and north symbol.

[Therion] hyperlink point

i was considering linking to reports, publications, photoes, videos from the maps. this would link these other resources to the map, allowing the user to jump from the map to a report or a video and so on. i would rather have iconic refs in the pdf (the "usual" file, picture, video icons).

[Therion] hyperlink point

what about a hyperlink point ?   point x y link -url "..." to point to external resources from the pdf maps. marco

[Therion] xtherion -close on

On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 18:21 +0200, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > But in therion, syntax is different. It is: > > POINT > CP1 CP2 POINT > > And I am not sure, whether therion accepts CP specification before the > first point. > me neither. in thbook it says that a data line can have one of the two

[Therion] xtherion -close on

On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 15:25 +0200, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > This point is added, because then the xtherion codes are much more simple. > It is not needed for therion, but adjusting xtherion to work withou this > extra point would be complicated. > when i import in xtherion file produced with qtopo

[Therion] xtherion -close on

the line option "-close on" specifis that a line is closed. when exporting maps, therion properly closes a line with this option. when xtherion loads the file, the line is "open" and the checkbox "close" is unchecked. if i check it, xtherion add a point to the line with the same coords as the

[Therion] Duplicates including adding splays?

I agree with bruce. also noticed that splay shots are used for the "depth". it might make sense, but i rather have the depth computed with the survey shots only. marco. On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 08:44 +1200, Bruce wrote: > Hi Andrew > Yes, when splay shots to an unlabelled station such as '-' are

[Therion] strange scrap plotting

hi will, bruce made quite a good analysis of your example. i got the same result as he. personally, i found that, while it is convenient to separate scrap and data, it's better to organize the project in small selfcontained chunks (say a few surveys or pieces of them and their maps) that can be

[Therion] map bug

On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 09:20 +0200, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Do I understand it correctly, that you want this upper outline in the > shifted map not to be cropped out? yes. > Unfortunately, this is not a bug, it is a feature :) i see. however if it is cropped out i do not get immediately the

[Therion] map bug

i'm composing the map of a new cave, and got that a shifted map, may have the outline cropped out in the final pdf. see attached sample. ( a quick fix is really appreciated ! ) marco -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: map_above.tgz Type:

[Therion] Inkscape import/export plugins

On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 15:18 +0100, Thomas Holder wrote: > Hi all, > > I wrote import and export plugins for Inkscape to edit th2-files. This > is particular useful to remaster existing therion-drawings with the > convenience of a quite modern vector-graphics application. The therion >

[Therion] distance problem with disto

hi bruce, i had a similar problem once, but it was in a pit with plenty of water, and on the spot i thought it was due to the water splashing around ... > >were all the "wrong" values exactly the same, or just similar ? > As above, I don't know - I had assumed they would be 'identically >

[Therion] Multiple layers of overlayed maps

Hi Bill, maybe this helps note: the whole outline of 2 and 3 appear in 1. maybe you raised an issue: maps at offset with no global preview, so that one can specify to draw partial previews map main ... map1 map23 [200 30 ft] above endmap map map23 ... map2 map3 [200 30 ft] above

[Therion] surface and loch

therion accepts mere than one surface command, ie, many surfaces. the loch export writes all of them. loch reads all of them, and displays only the first ... but it is "ready" to display all of them. it would be nice to have all displayed ... possibly cropped to stay beneath one "special"

[Therion] distox

On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 01:43 +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ marco corvi [2010-05-04 16:58 +0200]: > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 16:17 +0100, Wookey wrote: > > > +++ marco corvi [2010-04-16 09:07 +0200]: > > > > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 04:49 +0100, Wookey wrote: > > >

[Therion] plan cross-section

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 23:40 +0200, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > I am not sure, I understand your problem correctly, but would it help > you, if cross section scraps could be also from other, than "none" > projection? > that's fine for vertical caves, where cross-sections are horizontal and have

[Therion] plan cross-section

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 17:20 +0200, Martin Sluka wrote: > what about manual calibration of scrap using two stations and their x > and y difference or x, y coordinates? > > Martin > indeed there are station points in the scraps. therion has their coords, so why input the X-Y numbers by hand ?

[Therion] plan cross-section

seems that cross-section scrap must have a projection `none', which means that therion cannot use stations to scale it "properly". i had to draw a vertical cave, a sequence of pits, one on top of the next. instead of drawing a plan, with plenty of maps shifted to the side, i preferred to draw

[Therion] distox

On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 16:17 +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ marco corvi [2010-04-16 09:07 +0200]: > > On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 04:49 +0100, Wookey wrote: > > ... ... > > Thanx Marco. Beat's article on how to do the sums has now been > published inthe CREG journal (I have a

[Therion] distox

On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 04:49 +0100, Wookey wrote: ... > Here is a calib file. This one had 2 legs missing so has could of > extra 'downs' at the end. Not sure if that's fatal. If not could you > sned me back a set of numbers hi wookey, attached are the calibration coeffs of your disto.

[Therion] distox

On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 12:22 +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ marco corvi [2010-04-14 09:18 +0200]: > > hi wookey, > > Is there any reason you replied off-list? I'm sure this would be > interesting to others. none. i just clicked on the sender name out of abit. > > the wor

[Therion] therion crash

i was playing with calibrate command, in the centerline block. i put more than two numbers and therion crashes. (i know that i'm supposed to put only one or two numeric args). therion 5-3 gcc 4.1.2 libc 2.10.1 marco

[Therion] DistoX and PocketTopo with Therion

On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 21:50 +1300, Bruce Mutton wrote: > Hi there > > I have a Disto arriving hopefully in a few days, and looking ahead > I’ve been tentatively trialling PocketTopo on my PC. > > hi, also i have a distoX. i am writing a program to use it with linux. (the programs runs also

[Therion] outline only

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 12:10 +0200, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Just create a new map. For those maps that you want outline/shaded > only prefix them with preview above/below. > > Example: > > map m >preview above upper_passage_map >mid_passage_scrap1 >mid_passage_scrap2 >preview

[Therion] outline only

hi, how does one make a cave map where some scraps are drawn in full details and others with the outline only ? thanks, marco

[Therion] Hopefully a bunch of new users; Optimum Data Managment

On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 08:11 +1200, Bruce Mutton wrote: > Thanks Wookie. > Can not believe paper is better, but then in the 6 months I've been learning > Therion, it has improved a lot... Any more information or examples > appreciated. > > At present it's only my thconfig files that I think are

[Therion] vi

On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 17:52 +1100, Michael Lake wrote: > Hi all > > Yep, My wife Jill uses vim to edit her Therion files and I use gvim. > i put an attempt of syntax file in my therion backroom http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/backroom help is appreciated. this sort of stuff (as

[Therion] vi

On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 15:09 +, Martin Lüthi wrote: > Hi again > > For the time being I put it on > > http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~luthi/soft/ tried it and think it is good. really liked very much C-c C-c to compile with therion then with a shell and xpdf -remote had the preview. in my

[Therion] vi

On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 14:03 +, Martin Lüthi wrote: > Hi > > marco corvi writes: > > is anyone using vi to write therion files ? > > Not vi, but Emacs. I adapted the Python mode to work for Therion > files. It now supports syntax highlighting and shell integration

[Therion] scrap help needed

On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 11:51 +0100, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Quoting marco corvi : > > by the way, is there a point for water_drop > > (ie, vertical water flow) ? > > Not yet. I think it is a good idea to add this symbol. Have you seen somewhere > how this symbol looks like?

[Therion] scrap help needed

On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 23:06 +0100, Martin Sluka wrote: > On 5.12.2007, at 19:36, marco corvi wrote: > > > in the process of drawing a not-so-big xelev scrap > > got some wierd inside. > > what's wrong ? > > simply - check attached files - two right most walls wer

[Therion] scrap help needed

in the process of drawing a not-so-big xelev scrap got some wierd inside. what's wrong ? th (abridged) and th2 (draft) are attached. thconfig is a plain export of extended projection map. by the way, is there a point for water_drop (ie, vertical water flow) ? thanks, marco -- next

[Therion] loch question

On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 14:56 +0100, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Quoting marco corvi : > > > does the loch-model export handles surface bitmaps > > together with surface grids ? > > i know that one can get a neat grey surface if he/she uses a grid. > > is it possible

[Therion] extended section

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 14:48 +0100, Stacho Mudrak wrote: > Hmmm, this situation is not yet correctly solved in therion. Every > station even > in extended elevation has its unique coordinates. You have following > possibilities: > > 1. Remove this problematic station from one of these two scraps

[Therion] extended section

hi, i have a question. i have a loop to adjust, if i do not equate stations in extended section there is an altitude gap between them. of course therion does not know they are at the same altitude (or depth). if i equate, the drawing is awfully distorted because therion tries to draw them at

[Therion] therion by examples

On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:01 +0100, Wolfgang Zillig wrote: > Hi Thierry, > > I'm also using Grass for preparing my images and the DEM. So it would be > nice to share experience. > > Wolfgang > > thierrygonon schrieb: > > I've put in the *FRENCH* section of wiki (I'm planning a translation, > >