[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
So it turns out you don't need Enterprise to have 1000 members. You can get premium, and then pay the 4c per user additional fee. So that makes the yearly cost $440. Not that I'm promoting it, necessarily. My main point is that most of the prior conversations assumed zero cost forum solutions.

Re: [tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Super-interesting stuff! Thanks for the background. There's a bit of consolation in there, though: It sounds like the RAA attack relies on getting the user to execute JS in the WSH rather than within the browser. TiddlyWiki on Node or running through Bob.exe or in TiddlyDesktop *might* be a

Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

2021-08-21 Thread Joshua Fontany
Definitely moving over to the Discourse community. See you all there! Best, Joshua Fontany On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 3:42:18 PM UTC-7 Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) wrote: > I've created a profile on Talk.TiddlyWiki.org and am delighted with the > interface there. I'll try to ask questions

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread PMario
On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 12:53:40 AM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: > No, it's not a pure email. It has a web forum with all the services you > expect -- file attachments, photos, wikis, calendars. ah. ok > But you're right about the price. It obviously wasn't like that when I > signed up. At

Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:30:28 AM UTC-4 Jeremy Ruston wrote: At the moment, there's two way sync with Google Groups, but if people like > the new system then we will migrate fully over to it. > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't appear to be truly two-way (at least at the moment

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Answering some of my own questions: Is there a good central thread for discussing the move to Discourse that > I've missed out on? I did a quick search, and it seems to come up in > different threads, but I didn't see a pinned topic or thread that serves as > a hub for the conversation.

Re: [tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-21 Thread Finn Lancaster
@Scott, With a bit of creativity, practically anything is possible! You’re right in that the JS could not have DIRECT access to the user’s file system, but as explained in https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/06/20/ransomware-thats-100-pure-javascript-no-download-required/, one could simply use

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 9:12:15 AM UTC-4 flanc...@gmail.com wrote: What makes this more dangerous than the iframe is that it has DIRECT ACCESS > to your TW instance, so practically anything can be done. For example, I > could steal your tiddlywiki instance, encrypt it, and hold it for

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No, it's not a pure email. It has a web forum with all the services you expect -- file attachments, photos, wikis, calendars. But you're right about the price. It obviously wasn't like that when I signed up. At the time there was no user-count limit for the basic group. Hopefully they won't

Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
I've created a profile on Talk.TiddlyWiki.org and am delighted with the interface there. I'll try to ask questions and create new threads there rather than here, though I guess I'll be drawn back to Google Groups is that's where the conversation flows. (For my part, I'm hoping it moves to

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote: > This Group here has more than 1000 users and the goal of the new platform > is to increase the number of users. ... So please compare apples with > apples! > Hoping that no user of GG will be lost and a lot of more users will be

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread PMario
On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:13:18 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote: I have a forum with groups.io. After the initial transfer fee it has been > free. It includes mail services. It works just like you would expect a > forum to work. I can't help but feel that people jumped on Discourse > because

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Is there a good central thread for discussing the move to Discourse that I've missed out on? I did a quick search, and it seems to come up in different threads, but I didn't see a pinned topic or thread that serves as a hub for the conversation. Mark S. asked a couple of good questions: >

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Why are you assuming that GG won't be here in 2 or 3 years? Are you willing to pay $5 per month just to have a different forum, that may not actually be significantly better than what we have now? I have a forum with groups.io. After the initial transfer fee it has been free. It includes mail

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-21 Thread Hans Wobbe
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[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
Mark, we do not know if GG exist i 2 or 3 years - we do not even know how many would be left to return to GG or go to somewhere else. If the move is a success - and everybody or most people move and like it. Success. If a lot of people are lost in the moving and too many gradually leave - not

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-21 Thread Charlie Veniot
Brewed idea has fermented into a different prototyping project. *Scenario*: Say I have two sales reps, each with his/her own TiddlyWiki running on node.js They each maintain their own customer lists, but I want each sales rep to have view-only privs on the other sales rep's customer list. So

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread clutterstack
Mark, I do hope the search will be better -- it's hard to tell right now because there's not much on there. I hate to say "it would be hard to make it worse than GG search..." ;) Paying for Discourse feels less sustainable somehow, but I think there's a core of contributors who are making a

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
So mostly it's the meta issues that concern me. First, someone is paying for Discourse, right? It's not free like GG. Is that sustainable, or will we back at GG in 2 or 3 years? Second, is the search better on Discourse? Because that was the main concern about GG -- things become lost in the

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread clutterstack
Josiah, when you say newbies, do you mean TiddlyWiki newbies, or Discourse newbies? If TiddlyWiki, then perhaps there are ways we can organise categories or something to make it easier to know where to post the occasional question? If Discourse, I'm not sure...having experience reading and

[tw5] Re: Random html tags appear in my wiki

2021-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Try using advanced search to find where this content is found in the wiki, look at the tiddlers containing this and see if it has tags it should not. The tiddler may have a tag such as SystemTag: $:/tags/BelowStory , remove

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread TW Tones
Folks, Personally I have used many kinds of forums and conversational systems and the good ones have a number of features that you find are needed and help both with communications and adoption. Discourse has many if not all these features, and sure they may be implemented differently in

[tw5] Re: We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
I signed up a few days ago and have looked around to get to know it - and hopefully find something I liked about it. In between looking around and reading- I started up a few "comfort" tiddlywikis. It looks rather complicated to me. Time will hopefully help. A lot of users over quite some time

Re: [tw5] We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Josiah, There is a very nice demo and bot teach you how to use Discourse (of course basics) https://try.discourse.org/ You have to sign up! For me it was really helpful! Best wishes Mohammad On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:06 PM TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Following other folks enthusiasm I

Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

2021-08-21 Thread J. C. S.
Of course I do - and my name too! Well, not at all - the Dots had to be chaged. But the rest looks fine. Have a nice day! Johannes scot schrieb am Freitag, 20. August 2021 um 21:19:54 UTC+2: > I have also moved, Discourse is looking pretty good to me. > > On Friday, 20 August 2021 at 09:41:45

[tw5] We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

2021-08-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Following other folks enthusiasm I signed up to Discourse. BUT it is something of an issue how it works. I am a beginner there so I can only express *Opinions*, not a fully formed critique yet. BUT there ARE *snafus* that need attention BEFORE any mass migration ... SINCE it is looking