Re: [tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:39 AM, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > *if we don't offer a simple procedural way… the coming November changes > will seriously adversely effect non-DIY TW users on Firefox.* > ​It would be ​great to find an option that allows both code savvies relish

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

This reply was sparked by Alfonso, but is really aimed at everyone concerned for folk just wanting to get on and use TW in Firefox. One of the great things about this group is that many, if not most, people here are "tinkers" or happy doing "bricolage". What Mr Ruston has elsewhere called DIY

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Thanks for your input, Josiah, Allow me to further explain. All you need to do is download an updated Unbranded every time a new version comes up; up and until version 56, which will be more advanced and secure than the current ESR v.52 anyways. When the official FF v.57 comes out, you may

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Ciao Alfonson Great you got something that works for now! But I think you will have problems, if you need to use TiddlyFox beyond The Hell of mid-November (Firefox 57) when support for everything that is NOT a WebExtension ends. As far as I understand it the Unbranded Firefox is in step with

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

The best option to me is Unbranded Nightly Firefox, by far. I am using it for over two months now and it is working as a charm. I am using the 32-bit version even if I have 64-bit Windows, to be able to run any extension I want. Running version 54.0 now, though you have to upgrade it manually

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 8:54:34 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > ste...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> When running TiddlyDesktop, at least they wouldn't be tempted to use it >> for visiting other websites ... >> > > I'm trying to reply here as politely as possible. But isn't that the point >

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

ste...@gmail.com wrote: > > When running TiddlyDesktop, at least they wouldn't be tempted to use it > for visiting other websites ... > I'm trying to reply here as politely as possible. But isn't that the point of being connected to the internet? :-) LOL Best wishes Josiah -- You received

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Hi Josiah, On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 5:57:20 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > > TiddlyDesktop is indeed very good. > > But (1) its not been updated for a while (Dec 2015). (2) You lose the > advantages of the rich environment of Firefox (IF you are into it). > I wonder whether

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

> > ste...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> What about TiddlyDesktop? It comes with its own web browser, which might >> be preferable to installing a particular version of another browser only >> because of TiddlyWiki. I never used TiddlyFox, but TiddlyDesktop works well >> for me. >> > Footnote... I

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Ciao Stef TiddlyDesktop is indeed very good. But (1) its not been updated for a while (Dec 2015). (2) You lose the advantages of the rich environment of Firefox (IF you are into it). I don't use TiddlyWiki as THE thing. I use TiddlyWiki as A PAGE *alongside other web pages* to get the

Re: [tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

RETWEET. Eneko Gotzon wrote: > > ​Thank you very much :) > wrote: >> Joe Bloggs may well benefit from this approach > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:59 AM, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Joe Bloggs may well benefit from this approach ​Thank you very much :) -- Eneko Gotzon Ares enekogot...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Hi, On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 11:00:02 AM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > > *My opinion, the BEST BET to prolong your ability to save via TiddlyFox on > desktops is to switch over to FirefoxESR.* > > What about TiddlyDesktop? It comes with its own web browser, which might be preferable to

Re: [tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Ciao Danielo & all I find that the PouchDB / CouchDB combo in NoteSelf (combo of "in browser saving" & "cloud sync") I think HIGHLY RELEVANT to the increasing problems with overwrite file-saving in browsers TiddlyWiki is hitting. Neither TiddlyFox not TiddlyChrome are likely to work in

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

As is, TiddlyServer, is not what most normal users would call a "desktop app". Its an assemblage of stuff that medium to advanced level "DIY users" can cope with. Its not for Joe Bloggs who would have to go through sagas to get it running to experience what TiddlyWiki can do. *That's a

Re: [tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

I never missed Firefox neither tiddlyfox since the first working version of NoteSelf. I'll never go back to mess with files ,outdated copies and so on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:12 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > and then finally start using TW… > so maybe there's yet another step I missed… > ​As humble user I have not​ any right to ask for something to our wonderful developers, but if TW is aimed to be used

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Unless I'm doing things the hard way, there's more to it than a simple desktop app. You have to install npm. Then you install node.js Then you find a directory, download the release code, extract a file, configure a config file, drop to a command box, and run an install routine. Then you

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

It is called tiddlyserver, but it is just a desktop application you start and then either make a wiki or select the one you want to open, it isn't any more difficult than any other desktop application. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Josiah says that the default save is too much for newbies. I can't imagine then what newbies would think about running their own server. Mark On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 3:10:28 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote: > > I think that just running tiddlyserver may be a better option than having > to get a

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

I think that just running tiddlyserver may be a better option than having to get a special version of firefox, and then you don't have to worry about the browser you are using. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

I think so. There's nothing about "ESR" on the about page. On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 2:54:58 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Interesting! You using FF vanilla 54? > > Josiah > > Mark S. wrote: >> >> Right. But I wasn't using FirefoxESR. >> > -- You received this message because you are

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Interesting! You using FF vanilla 54? Josiah Mark S. wrote: > > Right. But I wasn't using FirefoxESR. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Right. But I wasn't using FirefoxESR. On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 1:55:55 PM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Mark S. wrote: >> >> I used the config.js/config-pref.js technique followed by your steps 1-3 >> and FF accepted TF 2.0.2 (on a virtual box linux mint). I don't know if the >> config.js

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Mark S. wrote: > > I used the config.js/config-pref.js technique followed by your steps 1-3 > and FF accepted TF 2.0.2 (on a virtual box linux mint). I don't know if the > config.js steps were necessary or not. > Ciao Mark S. FWIW, the config.js steps are not necessary for FirefoxESR on

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Mark S. wrote: > > I just realized ... why do you need to install an unsigned version of > tiddlyfox? TF 2.0.1 appears to work with FF 54, so what's the reason to get > 2.0.2 ? > Ciao Mark S. For a user like you 2.0.2 who knows what they are doing it adds nothing much. The only reason it

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

I just realized ... why do you need to install an unsigned version of tiddlyfox? TF 2.0.1 appears to work with FF 54, so what's the reason to get 2.0.2 ? I used the config.js/config-pref.js technique followed by your steps 1-3 and FF accepted TF 2.0.2 (on a virtual box linux mint). I don't

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Ciao Mark S. Mark S. wrote: > > You're advocating "bowing" to an edition of FF that is a compromise meant > for large organizations > Yes. And no. That's more their marketing pitch than anything to fuss over. I'm more advocating a version of Firefox that is slightly behind, slightly more open

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

You're already "bowing" down by using FF and TF. You're advocating "bowing" to an edition of FF that is a compromise meant for large organizations and which makes you sign up yet again for another list. Plus, with the coming changes, there may be fewer reasons to want FF in the first place.

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Mark S. wrote: Another possibility is to just run old Firefox for TW and another browser (probably Chrome) for everything else. I found myself also entertaining such thoughts about the future. Maintaining an insecure Firefox for purely home-work & Chrome to do nettish. And then I realised that

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Mark S. wrote: > > The default download mechanism might be manageable on the desktop, but the > "save-as" on FF for Android, as far as I could tell, did not offer a > "choose directory each time" option. This means that each time you save the > name is munged. Renaming files on an Android is

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Ciao Mark S. Mark S. wrote: > > I came across this method to install unsigned versions of extensions > I came across that too. I have never seen it mentioned anywhere else so that put me off it. I never tried it. I wonder if it actually works? Best wishes Josiah -- You received this

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

I came across this method to install unsigned versions of extensions. I haven't tried it mainly because I've held back updating FF, and I'm not sure how much it jeopardizes your security https://superuser.com/questions/956145/how-to-force-install-an-unverified-firefox-extension-in-41-0b1

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

TonyM wrote: > > If you know a channel through which to protest. or lodge a concern please > let us know ... > Ciao TonyM I'm doubtful If I can locate where the previous debates I read happened. But I'll see if I can. The reason is general comments to Mozilla go nowhere. You have to know the

[tw] Re: FirefoxESR is best option for TiddlyWiki now -- Action & Opinion

Thanks so much for the update and for warning. Lets hope they can recognize how important local file save is for us, to me jepoardising this stops the browser being the "universal client" is should be. On the security issue they may want to cover surely nominating exceptions in a specific