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2020-03-23 Thread A Gloom
I'll have an sobering, perhaps unique, aftermath prespective-- when this is over and done with and I return to the support group the Veterans Administration offers, I wonder how many of us won't be making it, I'm one of the youngest and have had a precautionary vaccine against pnumonia due to

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2020-03-23 Thread Birthe C
Tony, Do you really think so. Maybe in Australia? Look at who are getting the support and more importantly who are not. Then think some years back to the last economic crisis. Who got the help and who were left behind. I would not exactly call it a socialist model. Birthe tirsdag den 24.

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2020-03-23 Thread A Gloom
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:08:27 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote: > > Mi parolas Esperanton malbone! > > Ĉu vi parolas Esperanton? > > Mi ne, mi ne parolas Esperanton, sed Google Translate faras : P I'm looking at applying the copy to clipboard, open Google translate with pre-inserted instuctions

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2020-03-23 Thread TonyM
Folks, Interesting insights continue here, from all over the world, - In australia a large number of businesses have closed, pub, nightclub, cinemas with restaurants only for take away. - But other businesses can operate, at least with most people working from home if possible, our

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2020-03-23 Thread Birthe C
TT. My simple questions are ... > > - can we look after the ill AND not have lockdown for the whole society? > > Sure. Right now when the system gets overwhelmed we deselect the old and sick. With less and less health workers surviving, you would of course have to deselect more and more

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Birthe C wrote: > > TT, > > *Pressure!* > Lol! A nice question! > People discussing heavily on facebook and writing blogs. Some have good > ideas and are working together to find ways to do stuff. Press get > interested, politicians feel the heat. We have heard quite some public > excuses

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2020-03-23 Thread Birthe C
Mark S, In Denmark we are not testing enough. And changed who can get tested a short while ago. It will take a week before the curve will tell us something reliably. Running out of protection gear for the health workers could quickly change the numbers. Denmark is a very small country.

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2020-03-23 Thread Birthe C
TT, *Pressure!* People discussing heavily on facebook and writing blogs. Some have good ideas and are working together to find ways to do stuff. Press get interested, politicians feel the heat. We have heard quite some public excuses now, and at least some ideas are been taken up and going

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2020-03-23 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
According to that chart submitted by Hans, Denmark is doing much better at flattening the curve compared to most other countries. On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, Birthe C wrote: > > TT, > > You ask Mohammad an impossible question. They talk about shortage of this > and that,

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Birthe C wrote: > > TT, > > You ask Mohammad an impossible question. > Likely so. You are right. But just Coping seems weak. Don't you have a view on what is happening that *engages local politicians* at least? TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
No. It was FINE! What I getting at is politics. REPORTING the situation is different than QUESTIONING it. It may just be me interested in what is happening, not just coping with it. I have many questions on the epidemic. This may not be a place for that. TT On Monday, 23 March 2020

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2020-03-23 Thread Mohammad
Okay Josiah, I think I sent my post in reply to my own previous one and it was not in reply to your post! This like what Jeremy tries to help have some kind of online courses and connect instructors with their students! So, if my post comes after your posts and caused misunderstandings, I

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2020-03-23 Thread Birthe C
TT, You ask Mohammad an impossible question. They talk about shortage of this and that, but do not answer offers given to solve the solutions. What are they waiting for? A tiddlywiki. I do not think so. Maybe the big fat lobbyist with lots of "grease". Birthe -- You received this message

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2020-03-23 Thread Mohammad
That's true! Here a lot of flyers have been put on supermarket windows, bakeries, bank ATM, ... to help people how for example use an ATM in this situation and take care of themselves. The flyers do not contain long paragraph of texts, but are symbols, icons and one or two words! For example

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mohammad HOW do we use TW to encourage & inform our politicians? TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Like what? I think the issue is you mean well, but I doubt those mean much without substantive context. TT Mohammad wrote: > > > These can be used for preparing instructions and like that! > --Mohammad > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2020-03-23 Thread Mohammad
Hi Josiah, These can be used for preparing instructions and like that! --Mohammad On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 7:44:40 PM UTC+4:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > How does that help anyone? > > On Monday, 23 March 2020 10:42:55 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote: >> >> SVG Icons for using in Tiddlywiki >> >> Set

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > I'm reminded of why I've never been fond of emoticons as a substitute for > *words*. What is this: > > > Please put the dishes in the dishwasher? > Right. Its conceptually confusing if you not in the "visual lingo" total. Just having a bunch of images means nothing without an

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2020-03-23 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I'm reminded of why I've never been fond of emoticons as a substitute for *words*. What is this: Please put the dishes in the dishwasher? On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:14:40 AM UTC-7, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > How does that help anyone? > > On Monday, 23 March 2020 10:42:55 UTC+1, Mohammad

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I live in Gorizia , NE Italy. We are a joined town with Nova Gorica in Slovenia. This region is odd. We are a mixed culture. My town has *enormous capacity *to house the ill. We have a whole hospital that is

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
How does that help anyone? On Monday, 23 March 2020 10:42:55 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote: > > SVG Icons for using in Tiddlywiki > > Set of icons including high quality svg called stay at home > can be used in you wiki if you are preparing anything regarding current > pandemic. > >

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
HansWobbe wrote: > You might find this an interesting comparison of the global curves > > > https://www.visualcapitalist.com/infection-trajectory-flattening-the-covid19-curve/ > Right. They are useful for trying to get an overview and perspective ... Like,

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I'm not sure Italy is the best example to look at. IT IS truly a nightmare here in that, despite having one of the best healthcare systems in the world, we are now drowning in problems. A major one being that of the infected about 4,000 are now health care workers. A LOT of that is because we

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Not sure if its workable, but one idea in UK to sequester "the vulnerable most" is an interesting idea. They for 12 weeks. But liberty rights v. chance of infection. The as yet inarticulate idea is that if you could then the wider society might be able to carry on without total lock-down. TT

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
The internet is straining. It took me 10 days to sort out a logon problem to my online bank. The help line is to Milano at the centre of issues here. Its still down from overload most of the time. Lock-down is a strategy. One based on Good idea to help health services cope. That is the main

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Some US cities will have knock-on problems on lock-down. For instance some cities in Texas are alcohol free. No shops sell alcohol. Drinkers are fine with that as they normally just travel to the next town to stock up. If they confined to city boundaries there will be significant compounding

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
News reporting is often partial In Italy the edict reported is that ONLY pharmacies & food stores are open. Incorrect. Tobacconists remain open for fags & news everywhere. In my town Pet shops remain open so you can supply your pets. TT -- You received this message because you are

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2020-03-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
The manifestation of the virus in severe cases is like pneumonia. Many people die from breathing difficulties. Whilst sequestered (1) give up smoking (2) improve breathing capacity E.g. https://www.amazon.com/Breathing-Book-Vitality-Through-Essential/dp/0805042970 As far as Italy goes if

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2020-03-23 Thread Mohammad
SVG Icons for using in Tiddlywiki Set of icons including high quality svg called stay at home can be used in you wiki if you are preparing anything regarding current pandemic. https://www.flaticon.com/packs/stay-at-home-5 --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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2020-03-22 Thread TonyM
Birthe, There are "Lone wolves" who have value to add, sometimes revolutionary. But sadly for every one of these there seems to be hundreds with, what I consider as yet unclassified personality disorders, who believe the unbelievable. The internet has helped them thrive and whilst some are

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2020-03-22 Thread Mohammad
Hi Hans, Thank you for sharing! On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+4:30, HansWobbe wrote: > > @ Mohammad: @TiddlyTweeter > > You might find this an interesting comparison of the global curves > > > https://www.visualcapitalist.com/infection-trajectory-flattening-the-covid19-curve/ >

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2020-03-22 Thread Birthe C
I do not expect many here to read in Danish, but I really would have liked that. A lovely story in the paper. A man with a small company has tried to get into contact with authorities. He Is known for creating analytics for cancer patients. He wanted to tell authorities that he had some

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2020-03-22 Thread HansWobbe
@ Mohammad: @TiddlyTweeter You might find this an interesting comparison of the global curves https://www.visualcapitalist.com/infection-trajectory-flattening-the-covid19-curve/ On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 7:11:08 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote: > > The World Health Organization launches WHO Health

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2020-03-22 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Mi parolas Esperanton malbone! Ĉu vi parolas Esperanton? On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:20:44 AM UTC-7, A Gloom wrote: > > anyone know this language? > > SANKTAJ AGENCOJ Ligoj: > > INTERNACIA: ligo de WHO (Monda Organizo pri Sano) > > VIA NACIO: Tajpu la nomon de via nacio, regiono (provinco /

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2020-03-22 Thread A Gloom
Birthe > Now that explains a lot, you know us ;-) > ; ) I listen to more music from your area than my own country >> << > They are sure good for that kind of job, but I am not as happy to see apps > and video chat taking over the care for old people. Naming something local > or closeness

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2020-03-22 Thread Birthe C
@A Gloom Now that explains a lot, you know us ;-) I am living close to the company producing the robots. They are sure good for that kind of job, but I am not as happy to see apps and video chat taking over the care for old people. Naming something local or closeness in health really does not

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2020-03-22 Thread A Gloom
> > To everyone else: Scandinavians are kind of brothers and sisters, but > always competing. It is absolutely friendly. > > To the rest of your explanation in the other thread. I agree to most of > what you are writing. Understood-- we have strong communities of Scandinavians heritage here

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2020-03-22 Thread A Gloom
anyone know this language? SANKTAJ AGENCOJ Ligoj: INTERNACIA: ligo de WHO (Monda Organizo pri Sano) VIA NACIO: Tajpu la nomon de via nacio, regiono (provinco / ŝtato / graflando) aŭ urbo en la teksta redakta skatolo kaj alklaku "PAGE LINK FOR ...", kiu malfermos Google-serĉon por via nacio /

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2020-03-22 Thread Birthe C
@Tony Exactly! And an enormous amount of consultants for exorbitant fees. Birthe Having worked in the public service here I learned the greatest costs in > the public service is public demand for accountability and political > interference including changing the name and logos each election. >

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2020-03-22 Thread TonyM
Mat This may be the what has happened to public health in Sweden however I don't thing you can draw the conclusions you do especialy when you look at other countries, England has a cost effective public system as does Australia which has the lowest prescription prices in the developed world

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2020-03-22 Thread Ste Wilson
I think the problem with privatisation though is that it quickly becomes ONLY about making money and the bottom line which tends to be incomparable with social care (corner cutting, cost saving) and, often, ethics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2020-03-22 Thread Mohammad
The World Health Organization launches WHO Health Alert on WhatsApp As the Coronavirus pandemic spreads, people all over the globe are turning to the World Health Organization for official, trusted health information and advice. see: https://www.whatsapp.com/coronavirus/who and

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2020-03-22 Thread Birthe C
@Mat Something do happen https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/danish-disinfection-robots-save-lives-fight-against-corona-virus I have heard about your big disaster hospital in Stockholm. In Denmark we have our own disasters but try to find comfort in your proud leading role. ;-)

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2020-03-21 Thread Birthe C
TT. I do not think there are many in Denmark either. But the official statistic might not be totally correct. Definition being, that just because you do not have a home, you are not homeless (anticipating that people loosing their homes are couch surfing with family and friends) could hide

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2020-03-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Birthe > Begging is not allowed in Denmark. > Now some hostels all over Denmark has made an agreement, that the homeless > paper sellers can be housed there for free for now. (Free for the homeless > that is, the homeless paper is paying, the hostels lowering their prices. > A lot of other

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2020-03-21 Thread Mohammad
Google has started a COVID-19 alert. If you have an Android phone, the Google Now app (in my phone flip the home screen to the right) shows the alert and then on tapping the alert you can get some useful information. Also if make a search in Google in any browser, you will see the alert with

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